What Gus of the PPSL has done - Page 29

On November 09 2011 13:19 Pobbes wrote:
fyi the winners received the money right after the event. in cash

On November 09 2011 12:47 TheGunrun wrote:
Gus just called me, he's on the way to the hotel now, hope we can get this settled soon.

On November 09 2011 13:16 JesusOurSaviour wrote:
Shed some light buddy. We want to hear (and possibly dissuade you ? :D)

On November 09 2011 13:24 Cyro wrote:



Get the spoons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VDvgL58h_Y

On November 09 2011 13:04 InvalidID wrote:
This all sounds to me like a guy who got way in over his head then any sort of elaborate scheme. With no experience he tried to organize a tournament on international scale, without sufficient liquid assets and failed miserably. Granted the allegations of favoring his team-members rather then members from other teams/bracket fixing seem pretty damning, the rest of the allegations seem to fall within the plausible denial of incompetence then any elaborate scheme to defraud the community.

Unless we know the details of IPLs payment schedule its reasonable to believe did not he have the funds even though they were paid on time from IGN: they may have went to other upfront costs to cover other sponsors that may not pay so quickly. Whats not reasonable is that he favored his own players with what funds he had rather then the other players. It seems pretty reasonable to favor the international/Korean players and casters in terms of funding priority: they are what the sponsors are after really, due to the much larger following for those scenes, and they have no shortage of tourniment offers so if he delayed in the slightest they would just tell him to F off. It's not so reasonable to favor his SEA players over the SEA players of other teams though. And its frankly incompetent not to be completely transparent about this sort of thing and the decision making process that went into it.

If he pays his assorted other costs like this 13000 dollar bill and the other payments to event staff, then I'll be willing(and granted my opinion is pretty meaningless) to chock it off to good intentions mixed with a little favoritism, and a lot of inexperience.

On November 09 2011 13:07 Defacer wrote:
I'm actually one of those people that don't think Gus' intention was to hold a fake tournament and embezzle money.

I actually believe that he is a truly inexperienced and imcompetent manager, that relies on manipulation, fast talking and false hope to create opportunity. But when it comes to making things actually happen, he has neither the mental discipline or the street smarts to come up with a real plan, let alone execute one.

This just makes him look and act like a con man, rather than being one. Quite frankly a real con man would have done a better job conning everyone.

Of course, that doesn't make him any less reprehensible.

On November 09 2011 13:17 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
i know you're a busy man so i compiled all the testimonials made by involved parties against you so that you can address them.

On November 09 2011 12:47 TheGunrun wrote:
Gus just called me, he's on the way to the hotel now, hope we can get this settled soon.

On November 09 2011 13:26 Pobbes wrote:
well i only saw it in the envelope, and it was pretty thick. and besides, i'm sure the winners would be causing a shit storm by now if they weren't given the right amount.

On November 08 2011 13:56 SoKHo wrote:
so much drama in sc2. So sad

On November 09 2011 13:25 rotegirte wrote:



These two posts are refreshingly less agitated than the vast majority of lynching going on here. To be frank, I personally could care less about this guy. It is clear that he fucked it up in one or the other way, and will have to live with the damage he has done to himself within the community and on a professional level. But in a more level-headed way of thinking, all that matters is the money. To phrase it another way, if the funds were really not to be resurfaced, that would be a much bigger and much more real problem for esports as an industry.

With that said, I don't feel quite comfortable with some levels of unproductive hatred that has been displayed here. For all we know, he "is done" anyway. It really serves no one to chime into personal attacks.

On November 09 2011 13:36 Detwiler wrote:
How does this happen? Do they just let any asshole run a event? Does nobody vet these people before hand?

On November 09 2011 13:36 Detwiler wrote:
How does this happen? Do they just let any asshole run a event? Does nobody vet these people before hand?

On November 09 2011 13:40 RajaF wrote:


No one "lets" anyone organize these events. It happens like any other business deal. Person (in this case this Gus fellow) contacts IGN, or someone like them, and makes his business case as to why they should fund his tournament. IGN then agrees or not based on what they hear.

He must of made a very good proposal to IGN or he knows someone with some pull in that organization, that's how someone gets to run an event. You don't need permission from anyone (well maybe from Blizz but that is besides the point now).