EPTInterview with IdrA - Page 8
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Netsky
Australia1155 Posts
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TheLight
Australia410 Posts
On November 04 2011 15:19 Netsky wrote: Good interview! Interesting to know he was really pissed off after losing to Jinro in GSL...but the way he lost those games it was because of silly maps, rather than race balance. Happy he didn't retire. It was also the RO8. Despite the disadvantage that zerg had at that point, Idra still made it that far. It's a testament to his skill. | ||
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pbjsandwich
United States443 Posts
On November 04 2011 15:13 msjakofsky wrote: well nerchio is considered above idra by me for example. don't make assumptions just because you're gay for idra i think he meant anyone that knows what they're talking about | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9056 Posts
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Barett
Canada454 Posts
 .Liked the page anyways. Will keep following you in the future. | ||
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TheNessman
United States4158 Posts
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royal.cze
Canada287 Posts
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On November 04 2011 15:38 pbjsandwich wrote: i think he meant anyone that knows what they're talking about powerful arguments you got there want some fun facts? nerchio vs idra: 4-0 nerchio is 7-5 vs thorzain, idra is 2-2 idra is 0-4 vs huk last times they met, nerchio is 2-0 vs huk at around the same time idra is 5-8 vs morrow, nerchio is 10-2 idra is 0-2 vs sase, nerchio is 2-0 so has idra got the bigger accomplishments? yeah is he clearly above nerchio in skill? hell no people like you are 100% unable to make an even slightly objective judgement | ||
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firehand101
Australia3152 Posts
Thanks so much, always love idra interviews  | ||
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pbjsandwich
United States443 Posts
the only series you have there that is atleast a bo7 for both players is vs morrow and idra lose what? 3 or 4 games of that bc of 5 rax reaper? random bo3s here and there vs players isn't doesn't determine the skill of a player. If nerchio is as good as you say he is why isn't he going to the big tournies? Why isn't he going up against the koreans on a regular basis like Idra? Nerchio can't be compared to idra until he is consistently playing the competition that idra is | ||
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seiferoth10
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On November 04 2011 16:29 pbjsandwich wrote: LOL the only series you have there that is atleast a bo7 for both players is vs morrow and idra lose what? 3 or 4 games of that bc of 5 rax reaper? random bo3s here and there vs players isn't doesn't determine the skill of a player. If nerchio is as good as you say he is why isn't he going to the big tournies? Why isn't he going up against the koreans on a regular basis like Idra? Nerchio can't be compared to idra until he is consistently playing the competition that idra is lol you realize that in idra's championships he didn't play bo7s either? are they meaningless too? according to you, having a superior score in games tells less about skill than simply entering a tournament? wow, incontrol must be a better protoss than naniwa then cuz he plays in more tournaments dude, sorry but you are unable to think rationally, you're filled with bias. i'm not convinced 100% that nerchio is the better player either, but at least i have reasons. yes, you can try to compare 2 players even if they don't have the same amount of accomplishments/experience | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On November 04 2011 16:29 pbjsandwich wrote: LOL the only series you have there that is atleast a bo7 for both players is vs morrow and idra lose what? 3 or 4 games of that bc of 5 rax reaper? random bo3s here and there vs players isn't doesn't determine the skill of a player. If nerchio is as good as you say he is why isn't he going to the big tournies? Why isn't he going up against the koreans on a regular basis like Idra? Nerchio can't be compared to idra until he is consistently playing the competition that idra is If you are just a little objective you can compare them just fine. | ||
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Mvrio
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pbjsandwich
United States443 Posts
Please stop saying I'm biased because I am not the one going around calling people "gay for idra" like you are. and conveniently leaving out other series to like how they did vs. Puma ( the only fucking korean Nerchio has every played in a major tourny). It's fucking hilarious that you're trying to call me out for being subjective and biased. Your reasoning is faulty and anyone with eyes can tell you Idra is better than nerchio. EDIT: Also I'd love to know why you would just take the series of idra vs huk the last tim ethey met and use lifetime series with everyone else? Maybe because it makes you look wrong because idra is 10-7 vs. huk? Please get yourself out of this hole you dug yourself | ||
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Phobbers
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On November 04 2011 16:15 msjakofsky wrote: powerful arguments you got there want some fun facts? nerchio vs idra: 4-0 nerchio is 7-5 vs thorzain, idra is 2-2 idra is 0-4 vs huk last times they met, nerchio is 2-0 vs huk at around the same time idra is 5-8 vs morrow, nerchio is 10-2 idra is 0-2 vs sase, nerchio is 2-0 so has idra got the bigger accomplishments? yeah is he clearly above nerchio in skill? hell no people like you are 100% unable to make an even slightly objective judgement Player X and player Y have both played player Z, X has won 80% of his games against Z, Y has won 66% of his games against Z, does this mean X>Y? No, in no fucking way does it mean that. I'm ridiculously tired of statements like that. There are so many variables and factors one has to take between X vs Z and Y vs Z where you can not say anything like that. Let us put it this way, you know Polt? That guy who won the super tournament and all? The guy who many said had no chance against MMA, who at that time was viewed as a TvT specialist? Well he beat MMA in a 4-0 fashion. Just recently MMA beat MVP in a 4-1 fashion. Well, there is our X, Y, and Z. Are you going to boldly hold your ground and say Polt is better than MVP? I doubt it. It's people like YOU that are unable to make a non-idiotic statement. | ||
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michielbrands
Netherlands1146 Posts
On November 04 2011 14:39 Oats123 wrote: Ok what are all you people going on about Idra being shitted on on TL and reddit every day? If any thing he is the most praised player I've ever seen on TL and Reddit. Look at his fan club no other fan club even comes CLOSE to Idras. Look at the ASUS ROG show match poll, he is wining in 3 out of 4 of those votes casted by the community. when he streams he gathers shit loads of viewers, once he had 21k on his stream. He has way more fans then haters, WAY more. I love the IdrA hate, you need the bad guys in sport, and IdrA is the perfect badboy (that is in a very very positive wat), IdrA makes eSports just that more entertaining, with controversis, drama, etc. | ||
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Eishi_Ki
Korea (South)1667 Posts
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On November 04 2011 17:12 Phobbers wrote: Player X and player Y have both played player Z, X has won 80% of his games against Z, Y has won 66% of his games against Z, does this mean X>Y? No, in no fucking way does it mean that. I'm ridiculously tired of statements like that. There are so many variables and factors one has to take between X vs Z and Y vs Z where you can not say anything like that. Let us put it this way, you know Polt? That guy who won the super tournament and all? The guy who many said had no chance against MMA, who at that time was viewed as a TvT specialist? Well he beat MMA in a 4-0 fashion. Just recently MMA beat MVP in a 4-1 fashion. Well, there is our X, Y, and Z. Are you going to boldly hold your ground and say Polt is better than MVP? I doubt it. It's people like YOU that are unable to make a non-idiotic statement. i didn't say anywhere that the facts i stated actually PROVE something. but they represent something. an INFORMATION is a better argument than NO INFORMATION AT ALL. is this clear to you? i'm not convinced they represent enough for me to doubt that Idra > Nerchio. i even said i'm not 100% convinced, but i have my opinion. you don't have any arguments or reason at all, you're just angry cuz someone doesn't think idra is the best. extreme fanboy bias is not a good tool to use in an argument where your opponent is not braindead. it might be good enough on these forums though. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On November 04 2011 15:35 TheLight wrote: It was also the RO8. Despite the disadvantage that zerg had at that point, Idra still made it that far. It's a testament to his skill. Well, Idra got completely screwed by the maps in that Match. Metalopolis was close (and Jinro managed to get a 2 bunker wall off) and Shakuras was same-side when you could push through the back rocks. And then Jinro screws up on Jungle Basin and ends up defeating Idra's planned cheese (5 hp Marine made it to the bunker). After losing like that, I'd have been really upset as well. | ||
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