• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:48
CEST 01:48
KST 08:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202542Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up5LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced58
StarCraft 2
General
Clem Interview: "PvT is a bit insane right now" Serral wins EWC 2025 TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Would you prefer the game to be balanced around top-tier pro level or average pro level? Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion How do the new Battle.net ranks translate? Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Bitcoin discussion thread 9/11 Anniversary
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 570 users

Sleep & Check Now Teamless - Page 5

Forum Index > SC2 General
182 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Next All
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
October 29 2011 22:43 GMT
#81
Mmmm i liked Check in the beta, but after that he just didnt seem to keep up with other people. I'm though a big fan of slayers, so sad to see Sleep leave.

I'll just hope both of these players get picked up by foreign teams, because without a doubt they'll be amazing assets and practice partners to any foreign team.
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
October 29 2011 22:43 GMT
#82
QIMCheck QIMSleep, quantic is the new big thing, need some good people.
esports
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 22:44:41
October 29 2011 22:44 GMT
#83
On October 30 2011 07:37 red4ce wrote:
I wonder when foreign teams will realize that having a Korean flag next to your TLPD profile doesn't necessarily make you good. Tandongho, Hwangsin and Artist have done nothing of note since joining foreign teams. Whatever skill Check and Sleep have right now will erode away within a few months just like it did for Rain.

Yet all those koreans still perform really well for their team relative to their other members. Should they hold a different standard for who they recruit just because they're korean?
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
October 29 2011 22:47 GMT
#84
On October 30 2011 05:35 Torte de Lini wrote:
Ten bucks he goes with:

EG
MOUZ
COMPLEXITY
TL
MYM
SK
RGN
DIGNITAS
FNATIC
QUANTIC
TEAM DYNAMIC
ITS GOSU
vVv
ESC
MILL
VILE
NRG
EMPIRE
FXO
CHECK6
TTESPORTS
ACER
GRUBBY
4KINGS
FXO IMBA
iS
sMi
Na'Vi
mTW

There, called them all. That way, when they do join a team, I'll be right and first!

(sorry if I missed any teams, can't remember them all)

Such bold predictions man! Way to go out on a limb ;P
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
October 29 2011 22:47 GMT
#85
These guys are pretty underrated in Korea but I'm sure they will find success in the international scene
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
October 29 2011 22:50 GMT
#86
On October 30 2011 07:43 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 07:37 red4ce wrote:
I wonder when foreign teams will realize that having a Korean flag next to your TLPD profile doesn't necessarily make you good. Tandongho, Hwangsin and Artist have done nothing of note since joining foreign teams. Whatever skill Check and Sleep have right now will erode away within a few months just like it did for Rain.


Not sure about all of them, but at least Artist has better tournament showings than he rest of tis team.

edit: in particular talking about the ipl and the last mlg.


You're kidding.

RGNFuture- losers finals last mlg
RGNKiWiKaKi- do I need to say something here?
RGNSlush- Pool play
RGNSpades- Mulitple winners finals in past mlg's
RGNGix- Beat HuK to represent usa at WCG

No tournament showings? really?
wattabeast
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States957 Posts
October 29 2011 22:52 GMT
#87
Sleep + Zenio + Check to acer to join the all zerg team (plus elfi)?
:O
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 29 2011 23:00 GMT
#88
On October 30 2011 07:37 red4ce wrote:
I wonder when foreign teams will realize that having a Korean flag next to your TLPD profile doesn't necessarily make you good. Tandongho, Hwangsin and Artist have done nothing of note since joining foreign teams. Whatever skill Check and Sleep have right now will erode away within a few months just like it did for Rain.


Agreed with this, the best foreigners are getting good by practicing with Korean teams, so taking players away from that practice environment and expecting them to do well is a little misguided.

Although RGN now has a team house near Oakland so at least they're trying to replicate that environment.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 29 2011 23:05 GMT
#89
On October 30 2011 07:50 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 07:43 JustPassingBy wrote:
On October 30 2011 07:37 red4ce wrote:
I wonder when foreign teams will realize that having a Korean flag next to your TLPD profile doesn't necessarily make you good. Tandongho, Hwangsin and Artist have done nothing of note since joining foreign teams. Whatever skill Check and Sleep have right now will erode away within a few months just like it did for Rain.


Not sure about all of them, but at least Artist has better tournament showings than he rest of tis team.

edit: in particular talking about the ipl and the last mlg.


You're kidding.

RGNFuture- losers finals last mlg
RGNKiWiKaKi- do I need to say something here?
RGNSlush- Pool play
RGNSpades- Mulitple winners finals in past mlg's
RGNGix- Beat HuK to represent usa at WCG

No tournament showings? really?


Ah, nvm. I was not kiddin' but I was mistake because I though Artist managed to make it out of the pool play in mlg. Well, that Gix managed to beat Huk in a bo5 certainly deserves respect. As for the rest, well none of them have been performing really well in the last few months.

Anyways, I am looking forward to what teams check and sleep will join. Though I am kind of irritated because I seem to get the impression that several Koreans deliberately join foreign teams hoping it will be easier (which is hopefully just a stupid impression by an even more stupid leecher).
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
October 29 2011 23:07 GMT
#90
I knew about Sleep but now Check too? Wow, maybe they'll join the zerg-needed Fnatic as suggested before.
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
October 29 2011 23:08 GMT
#91
On October 30 2011 07:44 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 07:37 red4ce wrote:
I wonder when foreign teams will realize that having a Korean flag next to your TLPD profile doesn't necessarily make you good. Tandongho, Hwangsin and Artist have done nothing of note since joining foreign teams. Whatever skill Check and Sleep have right now will erode away within a few months just like it did for Rain.

Yet all those koreans still perform really well for their team relative to their other members. Should they hold a different standard for who they recruit just because they're korean?


Yes. Foreign teams should be fostering the development of the foreign SC2 scene. Resources are limited and when a foreign team takes in a Korean that's one less foreigner they could be accommodating instead. Koreans are expensive because you have to fly them from halfway across the world to compete in MLG, IPL, etc. This would be justifiable if said Korean did well in tournaments and brought the team publicity like Puma for EG and Hero for Liquid. I don't think Sleep and Check are on their level.
ElusoryX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Singapore2047 Posts
October 29 2011 23:09 GMT
#92
On October 30 2011 05:28 losefastTV wrote:
Calling it now... QIMSleep

no way. he came from im.
xd
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
October 29 2011 23:22 GMT
#93
Check was a great player in beta. I remeber when he made zerg looks easy against terran hahaha. Now he's just no shining that much anymore
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
October 29 2011 23:30 GMT
#94
On October 30 2011 07:43 Mithriel wrote:
Mmmm i liked Check in the beta, but after that he just didnt seem to keep up with other people. I'm though a big fan of slayers, so sad to see Sleep leave.

I'll just hope both of these players get picked up by foreign teams, because without a doubt they'll be amazing assets and practice partners to any foreign team.


The man was a monster in beta!
Sad to see them leave SlayerS though.. It's going to be wierd when all the foreigners want to be on korean teams and all the koreans on foreign teams..
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 29 2011 23:34 GMT
#95
On October 30 2011 08:08 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 07:44 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On October 30 2011 07:37 red4ce wrote:
I wonder when foreign teams will realize that having a Korean flag next to your TLPD profile doesn't necessarily make you good. Tandongho, Hwangsin and Artist have done nothing of note since joining foreign teams. Whatever skill Check and Sleep have right now will erode away within a few months just like it did for Rain.

Yet all those koreans still perform really well for their team relative to their other members. Should they hold a different standard for who they recruit just because they're korean?


Yes. Foreign teams should be fostering the development of the foreign SC2 scene. Resources are limited and when a foreign team takes in a Korean that's one less foreigner they could be accommodating instead. Koreans are expensive because you have to fly them from halfway across the world to compete in MLG, IPL, etc. This would be justifiable if said Korean did well in tournaments and brought the team publicity like Puma for EG and Hero for Liquid. I don't think Sleep and Check are on their level.

I'm not gonna sit here and argue that Check is better than Hero or Puma, but at least Check has been a solid code A player and has at least graced the up and down matches and almost got in too. Sleep isn't good, but to say Check is on a level below Hero and Puma? On what basis?

Also, everyone is flying across the god damn world, but if you try to sponsor bad players and put them in tournaments they won't magically become good. Their skill level is just lower, not that they just don't have tournament experience. Bringing in good quality players can only help your team improve.
imareaver3
Profile Joined June 2010
United States906 Posts
October 29 2011 23:47 GMT
#96
On October 30 2011 07:50 masterbreti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 07:43 JustPassingBy wrote:
On October 30 2011 07:37 red4ce wrote:
I wonder when foreign teams will realize that having a Korean flag next to your TLPD profile doesn't necessarily make you good. Tandongho, Hwangsin and Artist have done nothing of note since joining foreign teams. Whatever skill Check and Sleep have right now will erode away within a few months just like it did for Rain.


Not sure about all of them, but at least Artist has better tournament showings than he rest of tis team.

edit: in particular talking about the ipl and the last mlg.


You're kidding.

RGNFuture- losers finals last mlg
RGNKiWiKaKi- do I need to say something here?
RGNSlush- Pool play
RGNSpades- Mulitple winners finals in past mlg's
RGNGix- Beat HuK to represent usa at WCG

No tournament showings? really?


Why would HuK be representing USA at WCG? Isn't he Canadian?
nathaelmc
Profile Joined January 2011
Mexico3 Posts
October 29 2011 23:48 GMT
#97
think guys, Check was talking with zenio a few days ago (zenio actually leaves ogs) Sleep, Zenio, Check now teamless? mayb we'r gonna see a new team coming soon!
Getting Good Is A Matter Of Sacrifice
BushidoSnipr
Profile Joined November 2010
United States910 Posts
October 29 2011 23:51 GMT
#98
Sleep showed really well at IPL3, I hope he finds an awesome team and is sucessful
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 00:18:37
October 29 2011 23:52 GMT
#99
On October 30 2011 08:09 ElusoryX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 05:28 losefastTV wrote:
Calling it now... QIMSleep

no way. he came from im.


Not impossible.
Oz left Fou for FXO, then they merged...

Edit: Forgot to mention Stephano left his team, joined another then went back to his original team.
Stuff like this does happen.
esports
TheRealFluid
Profile Joined June 2011
United States501 Posts
October 29 2011 23:52 GMT
#100
Holy Check!
"The wings don't make you fly and the crown don't make you king.||"What do you say to god of gg? NOT TODAY" -John the Translator. "Give me Command" -Yellow.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 820
ggaemo 84
Stormgate
WinterStarcraft1484
Nathanias189
UpATreeSC137
JuggernautJason84
Dota 2
syndereN826
capcasts193
Counter-Strike
fl0m797
Stewie2K674
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe179
Other Games
summit1g10099
Grubby2378
shahzam1327
Day[9].tv931
C9.Mang0151
ViBE121
Maynarde116
Fnx 49
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick772
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH138
• davetesta38
• RyuSc2 38
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22844
Other Games
• imaqtpie1750
• Day9tv931
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
12m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
11h 12m
Stormgate Nexus
14h 12m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
16h 12m
The PondCast
1d 10h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 11h
Replay Cast
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
CSO Cup
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
RotterdaM Event
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.