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Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
October 29 2011 23:54 GMT
#101
On October 30 2011 08:47 imareaver3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 07:50 masterbreti wrote:
On October 30 2011 07:43 JustPassingBy wrote:
On October 30 2011 07:37 red4ce wrote:
I wonder when foreign teams will realize that having a Korean flag next to your TLPD profile doesn't necessarily make you good. Tandongho, Hwangsin and Artist have done nothing of note since joining foreign teams. Whatever skill Check and Sleep have right now will erode away within a few months just like it did for Rain.


Not sure about all of them, but at least Artist has better tournament showings than he rest of tis team.

edit: in particular talking about the ipl and the last mlg.


You're kidding.

RGNFuture- losers finals last mlg
RGNKiWiKaKi- do I need to say something here?
RGNSlush- Pool play
RGNSpades- Mulitple winners finals in past mlg's
RGNGix- Beat HuK to represent usa at WCG

No tournament showings? really?


Why would HuK be representing USA at WCG? Isn't he Canadian?


Ask him, he made it to the finals of 2 of the American qualifiers.
Possibly because hes a US citizen?
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cordlc
Profile Joined November 2010
United States360 Posts
October 29 2011 23:57 GMT
#102
I recall while watching Check lose a game, that Artosis was saying he felt bad for him because he wanted to win a title, or have a good run before having to serve in the military.

I could be wrong, maybe just my memory. But if that's the case, I wonder how long he has before he's done playing SC2, at least temporarily? It'd be hard to join a foreign team if he's going to stop soon.

I will add that he is pretty good. To be honest, I'd put him at or slightly above Rain's level - that's easily enough for foreign team material (even if he seems like shit in Korea, the competition there is insane)
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
October 30 2011 00:03 GMT
#103
On October 30 2011 05:53 TT1 wrote:
i wish sc1 korean proteams accepted foreigners the same way were accepting koreans now : [

We're accepting them because they're usually pretty damn good at this game.

All foreigners sucked in BW

:p
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
October 30 2011 00:03 GMT
#104
Throw in the new BW teams as possibilities. They would pay for experienced talent to speed up the training process in whatever way they can.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
October 30 2011 00:10 GMT
#105
imCHECK inc
izen
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden136 Posts
October 30 2011 00:14 GMT
#106
Teamliquid´sleep Got a nice ring on it!
a thousand screaming voices, Eager to watch you succeed Give them something real to believe
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
October 30 2011 00:17 GMT
#107
RatZCheck inc obviously
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
October 30 2011 00:29 GMT
#108
Didn't MKP join Prime because he was good friend of Check? Interesting
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
October 30 2011 00:40 GMT
#109
On October 30 2011 08:08 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 07:44 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On October 30 2011 07:37 red4ce wrote:
I wonder when foreign teams will realize that having a Korean flag next to your TLPD profile doesn't necessarily make you good. Tandongho, Hwangsin and Artist have done nothing of note since joining foreign teams. Whatever skill Check and Sleep have right now will erode away within a few months just like it did for Rain.

Yet all those koreans still perform really well for their team relative to their other members. Should they hold a different standard for who they recruit just because they're korean?


Yes. Foreign teams should be fostering the development of the foreign SC2 scene. Resources are limited and when a foreign team takes in a Korean that's one less foreigner they could be accommodating instead. Koreans are expensive because you have to fly them from halfway across the world to compete in MLG, IPL, etc. This would be justifiable if said Korean did well in tournaments and brought the team publicity like Puma for EG and Hero for Liquid. I don't think Sleep and Check are on their level.


What accomplishment has Hero had that you call him better than Check? Check has a much better GSL record than him. He has been in every GSL, while Hero had a hard time even qualifying. He dropped to Code A, but almost made it back to Code S in a very tough up and down group, only losing to Losira after 3 tie breakers.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
October 30 2011 00:41 GMT
#110
On October 30 2011 09:14 izen wrote:
Teamliquid´sleep Got a nice ring on it!


Not as good as IMSleep.. When did he change to SlayerS? I remember it like it was yesterday when the casters joked around about his name, being on IM.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
October 30 2011 00:44 GMT
#111
On October 30 2011 08:47 imareaver3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 07:50 masterbreti wrote:
On October 30 2011 07:43 JustPassingBy wrote:
On October 30 2011 07:37 red4ce wrote:
I wonder when foreign teams will realize that having a Korean flag next to your TLPD profile doesn't necessarily make you good. Tandongho, Hwangsin and Artist have done nothing of note since joining foreign teams. Whatever skill Check and Sleep have right now will erode away within a few months just like it did for Rain.


Not sure about all of them, but at least Artist has better tournament showings than he rest of tis team.

edit: in particular talking about the ipl and the last mlg.


You're kidding.

RGNFuture- losers finals last mlg
RGNKiWiKaKi- do I need to say something here?
RGNSlush- Pool play
RGNSpades- Mulitple winners finals in past mlg's
RGNGix- Beat HuK to represent usa at WCG

No tournament showings? really?


Why would HuK be representing USA at WCG? Isn't he Canadian?

They werent going to have a Canadian WCG so he did the USA one now It's cancelled lol and hes in the Canada one but I think he slept in and missed it
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
HEROwithNOlegacy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States850 Posts
October 30 2011 00:47 GMT
#112
I think SlayerS should pick up Check, from what I have heard from Artosis and Tasteless check works harder than almost anyone and plays non stop. A work horse in the SlayerS house would only benefit everyone in that house. Gl to check!
SlayerS Fighting!
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 00:56:12
October 30 2011 00:55 GMT
#113
for too long they have been abused with bunker rushes and blink stalkers

the zergs across the korean lands are gathering up to join the new age of team For the Swarm. thats why u see these zergs leaving, shits about to get real!
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
October 30 2011 00:56 GMT
#114
On October 30 2011 09:47 HEROwithNOlegacy wrote:
I think SlayerS should pick up Check, from what I have heard from Artosis and Tasteless check works harder than almost anyone and plays non stop. A work horse in the SlayerS house would only benefit everyone in that house. Gl to check!

Man there house seriously has like can 20 players in it with a couple EG coming in can they fit any more?
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
October 30 2011 01:09 GMT
#115
On October 30 2011 09:56 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 09:47 HEROwithNOlegacy wrote:
I think SlayerS should pick up Check, from what I have heard from Artosis and Tasteless check works harder than almost anyone and plays non stop. A work horse in the SlayerS house would only benefit everyone in that house. Gl to check!

Man there house seriously has like can 20 players in it with a couple EG coming in can they fit any more?


they can always buy more rooms. the "training houses" in korea are just a big apartment so.
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
October 30 2011 01:18 GMT
#116
On October 30 2011 09:55 MorroW wrote:
for too long they have been abused with bunker rushes and blink stalkers

the zergs across the korean lands are gathering up to join the new age of team For the Swarm. thats why u see these zergs leaving, shits about to get real!

Oh you're talking about team acers new Korean division, think they'll be pissed at you for leaking it. At least good thing you didn't mention jaedong switching over and joining them ;p
inamorato
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States263 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 01:23:24
October 30 2011 01:21 GMT
#117
On October 30 2011 05:44 Meteora.GB wrote:
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On October 30 2011 05:41 sickoota wrote:
I hope foreign teams recognize how much of a beast Check is, top 5 kr zergs easily imo.


Unfortunately for a "top 5 Zerg" Check is in the abyss that is Code B. He's no DRG.

I like the part where you use DRG the polar opposite of Check. Hell Check isn't even that good but I'm quite positive Check held his Code S spot a few seasons longer than DRG.

I'm not even sure what DRG has accomplished yet outside of GSTL and winning LG 6 months ago. Oh and getting knocked out of Code A only to regain his spot by placing 4th in MLG to get a free ticket to Code S.

Let's be honest, the top five zergs...FACT:Nestea 1-3 then it becomes opinionated for the remaining two spots.
You're one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan Designed and directed by his red right hand
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
October 30 2011 01:27 GMT
#118
Team Acer gogo!
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BudgetTheLeech
Profile Joined September 2011
United States89 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 01:28:59
October 30 2011 01:28 GMT
#119
On October 30 2011 09:17 Orcasgt24 wrote:
RatZCheck inc obviously


I lol'd pretty hard.

Anyone know what their reasons were? For Sleep, I really don't think that leaving SlayerS for a foreign team would hold anything necessarily positive. SlayerS has already joined up with EG, if he was just looking to get into the foreign scene I'm sure that EG would do their best to get him over to the house.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
October 30 2011 01:39 GMT
#120
On October 30 2011 10:21 inamorato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 05:44 Meteora.GB wrote:
On October 30 2011 05:41 sickoota wrote:
I hope foreign teams recognize how much of a beast Check is, top 5 kr zergs easily imo.


Unfortunately for a "top 5 Zerg" Check is in the abyss that is Code B. He's no DRG.

I like the part where you use DRG the polar opposite of Check. Hell Check isn't even that good but I'm quite positive Check held his Code S spot a few seasons longer than DRG.

I'm not even sure what DRG has accomplished yet outside of GSTL and winning LG 6 months ago. Oh and getting knocked out of Code A only to regain his spot by placing 4th in MLG to get a free ticket to Code S.

Let's be honest, the top five zergs...FACT:Nestea 1-3 then it becomes opinionated for the remaining two spots.


DRG didn't finish 4th at MLG, finished 3rd. 4th place can't get Code S. And he didn't get knocked out of Code A. He just didn't make it to up-and-down matches. If he hadn't got Code S through MLG, he would be in Code A again next season.

Regardless of all that, Check is a very good Zerg, and has recently improved a lot.
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