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On October 29 2011 00:10 Zaurus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 00:08 rasers wrote:On October 29 2011 00:01 GTLAllDayEveryDay wrote:
I cant wait for the BW pros to switch over so they can get man handled. It doesnt take too much talent to be the top player at a game that only a handful of players play. SC2 increased the player count many times over. It's funny to see all these BW fanboys speaking hypothetical about their heroes dominating the SC2, but you damn well know in their hearts they're hoping they don't switch because then if players like FlaSh, Jaedong, Bisu switch and become good, but don't reach the mind boggling heights of their BW glory, it just proves that they're not RTS gods, just exceptional BW players that were able to excel in a mechanically difficult game -- remember this is a strategy game, it shouldn't take 400 APM to execute a strategy. Also BW became a very niche thing over the years, like curling. wow. can u write even more bullshit?? what the! if you have 400 APM and you are still on PAR with a guy with 100 APM, then the game is screwed. It will be like any ordinary crap RTS games in which practising more has no effect.
TBH I've entertained the thought that if all of BW pros switched over, everybody wouldnt really be all that much above MVP level. SC2 just does such a good job at compressing the skill disparity between players.
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On October 29 2011 00:17 tyCe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 00:12 ToguRo wrote:On October 28 2011 23:45 aksfjh wrote:On October 28 2011 23:34 jonaada wrote:On October 28 2011 23:21 Hexxed wrote:On October 28 2011 23:11 rasers wrote:On October 28 2011 23:08 slvcadv wrote:
Bisu, Flash and Jaedong aren't going to win every SC2 tourney out there. They may be very good SC2 players if they switch, but it's not guaranteed that their skill from BW is going to transfer to SC2.
Just look at Nada and July, they haven't won anything in SC2, yet they were BW legends. y legends 6 years ago. and nada is not even playing fulltime? or just lately. July has reached a finals and NaDa isn't playaing full time. It's been said that he spends the largest chunk of his time on school work. For him to make Code S every season while other full time pro gamers have struggled is amazing. Nada is scary. Lol so funny when people say "lol the brood war LEGENDS that are in sc2 atm aren´t dominating, so why should the new ones be any better?" Well the reason why the old BW players switched over to sc2 is because they can´t compete in brood war, they just aren´t good enough. The only thing I remember is MVP taking a game of Flash once in the MSL(mirrors can be unpredictable and random), but then flash won 3 in a row in an easy manner. Just remember, MVP is probably the best brood war player to switch to sc2, but he was quite terrible compared to other brood war pros, and yet he is dominating sc2. Think about that for a second. People are also stating that ForGG is a legend, which is not true. He was played out in proleague in the 2009-2010 season quite a bit, but he doesn´t come close to the top brood war players. He has a fun unique style which will probably carry well over to sc2, but he was never dominating. (excluding that one MSL which I still dont understand how he won) But even ForGG and MVP aren't nearly invincible in SC2. They're being beat by people that normally wouldn't touch them in BW. The skill required for SC2 isn't the same. You don't need 400 APM to make marines 7 minutes in, but you need it to strategically overcome your opponent in the mid and late game. MVP isn't invincible ? he pretty much always wins Well, if the BW teams really do switch over for real, then you will learn the meaning of "Woongjin Terran", of which, MVP was one. A Woongjin Terran is probably defined as a scrub, chobo Terran player who happened to be on the A-team solely because they're in Woongjin and because KeSPA had a rule where you had to send out at least one of each race in each ProLeague match. MVP was the cookie-cutter Woongjin Terran player.
dem Woongjin Terrans. Poor Light D:
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On October 29 2011 00:18 Merlimoo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 00:17 Merlimoo wrote:On October 29 2011 00:16 setzer wrote:On October 29 2011 00:16 Merlimoo wrote:On October 29 2011 00:14 setzer wrote:On October 29 2011 00:01 GTLAllDayEveryDay wrote:
I cant wait for the BW pros to switch over so they can get man handled. It doesnt take too much talent to be the top player at a game that only a handful of players play. SC2 increased the player count many times over. It's funny to see all these BW fanboys speaking hypothetical about their heroes dominating the SC2, but you damn well know in their hearts they're hoping they don't switch because then if players like FlaSh, Jaedong, Bisu switch and become good, but don't reach the mind boggling heights of their BW glory, it just proves that they're not RTS gods, just exceptional BW players that were able to excel in a mechanically difficult game -- remember this is a strategy game, it shouldn't take 400 APM to execute a strategy. Also BW became a very niche thing over the years, like curling. Do you realize the current top players in the world are all former BW pros? None of them were every as skilled or dedicated as the current best in BW and isn't going to change if the players you mentioned switch in the prime of their career. If you are going to continue posting at least put more thought into what you are saying. You mean like Huk and Stephano who are the ones that win theses days... ?!? I'm talking about Korea So a small community like a he was talking about... Like he said. Everyone said : "hoo korean are coming in the west, they will kill everyone". The facts are, they aren't anymore. Point.
Koreans have won what 98% of all the tournaments they are in.
Just because Huk won a few and stephano, now the dominance is over? Please.
When more and more top players come from bw, and sc2 develops more with patches and expansions, we will see the real picture then.
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On October 29 2011 00:16 blubbdavid wrote:
Regarding derailment:
Could someone please enlight me? There is n.die_Jaedong, n.die_Soo, Bisu[shield], Slayers_Boxer, etc... Are those Fish server Clan tags?
I don't know if these clans still exist, but they are the clan tags for those respective players. By.FlaSh, By.BaBy, Sea[Shield], NC_YellOw are some other notable.
Most (all?) players were in clans before they were picked up by professional teams. When playing for their teams, most players have to drop their clan tags, although they are still existing/honorable members of their clans.
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Holy shit at that update OP. If this is true, All current progamers in SCII should just quit!! except for nani tho <3
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On October 29 2011 00:18 Merlimoo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 00:17 Merlimoo wrote:On October 29 2011 00:16 setzer wrote:On October 29 2011 00:16 Merlimoo wrote:On October 29 2011 00:14 setzer wrote:On October 29 2011 00:01 GTLAllDayEveryDay wrote:
I cant wait for the BW pros to switch over so they can get man handled. It doesnt take too much talent to be the top player at a game that only a handful of players play. SC2 increased the player count many times over. It's funny to see all these BW fanboys speaking hypothetical about their heroes dominating the SC2, but you damn well know in their hearts they're hoping they don't switch because then if players like FlaSh, Jaedong, Bisu switch and become good, but don't reach the mind boggling heights of their BW glory, it just proves that they're not RTS gods, just exceptional BW players that were able to excel in a mechanically difficult game -- remember this is a strategy game, it shouldn't take 400 APM to execute a strategy. Also BW became a very niche thing over the years, like curling. Do you realize the current top players in the world are all former BW pros? None of them were every as skilled or dedicated as the current best in BW and isn't going to change if the players you mentioned switch in the prime of their career. If you are going to continue posting at least put more thought into what you are saying. You mean like Huk and Stephano who are the ones that win theses days... ?!? I'm talking about Korea So a small community like a he was talking about... Like he said. Everyone said : "hoo korean are coming in the west, they will kill everyone". The facts are, they aren't anymore. Point.
Arguably the best Koreans from GSL haven't participated in Western tournaments yet. Also, Providence won't be a good indicator, because most Koreans have to go through the open bracket, while Idra already is assured 4th place.
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Anyway, why everybody is so attached to BW player ? Like it will change our life if they win over everybody. If you don't play at their level, you should just care about entertaining matches and show off of new strategies that you could use. Every other things is just stupid. Do you all have any money in korean esport or what ?
Shouldn't you be happy to see esport spread ?
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I will have to say I do feel saddened to read that prominent BW players would consider switching to SC2.
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On October 29 2011 00:17 Merlimoo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 00:16 setzer wrote:On October 29 2011 00:16 Merlimoo wrote:On October 29 2011 00:14 setzer wrote:On October 29 2011 00:01 GTLAllDayEveryDay wrote:
I cant wait for the BW pros to switch over so they can get man handled. It doesnt take too much talent to be the top player at a game that only a handful of players play. SC2 increased the player count many times over. It's funny to see all these BW fanboys speaking hypothetical about their heroes dominating the SC2, but you damn well know in their hearts they're hoping they don't switch because then if players like FlaSh, Jaedong, Bisu switch and become good, but don't reach the mind boggling heights of their BW glory, it just proves that they're not RTS gods, just exceptional BW players that were able to excel in a mechanically difficult game -- remember this is a strategy game, it shouldn't take 400 APM to execute a strategy. Also BW became a very niche thing over the years, like curling. Do you realize the current top players in the world are all former BW pros? None of them were every as skilled or dedicated as the current best in BW and isn't going to change if the players you mentioned switch in the prime of their career. If you are going to continue posting at least put more thought into what you are saying. You mean like Huk and Stephano who are the ones that win theses days... ?!? I'm talking about Korea So a small community like a he was talking about...
Uh, what? How many current foreign SC2 progamers can compete in GSL? 3-5? That is with the lower-talented field of players than in BW. His post doesn't make any sense and neither do you. It has been established as fact that the most talented and hardest working RTS players are Korean BECAUSE of the BW proscene that has cultivated those players.
Imagine the same argument being applied to US basketball and you will see how silly it is.
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United Kingdom10823 Posts
IF Flash switches, I hope he plays Protoss. I'd rather a progamer pick a race because he wants to enjoy it instead of purely an economic decision
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On October 29 2011 00:12 ToguRo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 23:45 aksfjh wrote:On October 28 2011 23:34 jonaada wrote:On October 28 2011 23:21 Hexxed wrote:On October 28 2011 23:11 rasers wrote:On October 28 2011 23:08 slvcadv wrote:
Bisu, Flash and Jaedong aren't going to win every SC2 tourney out there. They may be very good SC2 players if they switch, but it's not guaranteed that their skill from BW is going to transfer to SC2.
Just look at Nada and July, they haven't won anything in SC2, yet they were BW legends. y legends 6 years ago. and nada is not even playing fulltime? or just lately. July has reached a finals and NaDa isn't playaing full time. It's been said that he spends the largest chunk of his time on school work. For him to make Code S every season while other full time pro gamers have struggled is amazing. Nada is scary. Lol so funny when people say "lol the brood war LEGENDS that are in sc2 atm aren´t dominating, so why should the new ones be any better?" Well the reason why the old BW players switched over to sc2 is because they can´t compete in brood war, they just aren´t good enough. The only thing I remember is MVP taking a game of Flash once in the MSL(mirrors can be unpredictable and random), but then flash won 3 in a row in an easy manner. Just remember, MVP is probably the best brood war player to switch to sc2, but he was quite terrible compared to other brood war pros, and yet he is dominating sc2. Think about that for a second. People are also stating that ForGG is a legend, which is not true. He was played out in proleague in the 2009-2010 season quite a bit, but he doesn´t come close to the top brood war players. He has a fun unique style which will probably carry well over to sc2, but he was never dominating. (excluding that one MSL which I still dont understand how he won) But even ForGG and MVP aren't nearly invincible in SC2. They're being beat by people that normally wouldn't touch them in BW. The skill required for SC2 isn't the same. You don't need 400 APM to make marines 7 minutes in, but you need it to strategically overcome your opponent in the mid and late game. MVP isn't invincible ? he pretty much always wins
MMA has a 12-6 record against him.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49496 Posts
On October 29 2011 00:19 SabreUK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 00:17 tyCe wrote:On October 29 2011 00:12 ToguRo wrote:On October 28 2011 23:45 aksfjh wrote:On October 28 2011 23:34 jonaada wrote:On October 28 2011 23:21 Hexxed wrote:On October 28 2011 23:11 rasers wrote:On October 28 2011 23:08 slvcadv wrote:
Bisu, Flash and Jaedong aren't going to win every SC2 tourney out there. They may be very good SC2 players if they switch, but it's not guaranteed that their skill from BW is going to transfer to SC2.
Just look at Nada and July, they haven't won anything in SC2, yet they were BW legends. y legends 6 years ago. and nada is not even playing fulltime? or just lately. July has reached a finals and NaDa isn't playaing full time. It's been said that he spends the largest chunk of his time on school work. For him to make Code S every season while other full time pro gamers have struggled is amazing. Nada is scary. Lol so funny when people say "lol the brood war LEGENDS that are in sc2 atm aren´t dominating, so why should the new ones be any better?" Well the reason why the old BW players switched over to sc2 is because they can´t compete in brood war, they just aren´t good enough. The only thing I remember is MVP taking a game of Flash once in the MSL(mirrors can be unpredictable and random), but then flash won 3 in a row in an easy manner. Just remember, MVP is probably the best brood war player to switch to sc2, but he was quite terrible compared to other brood war pros, and yet he is dominating sc2. Think about that for a second. People are also stating that ForGG is a legend, which is not true. He was played out in proleague in the 2009-2010 season quite a bit, but he doesn´t come close to the top brood war players. He has a fun unique style which will probably carry well over to sc2, but he was never dominating. (excluding that one MSL which I still dont understand how he won) But even ForGG and MVP aren't nearly invincible in SC2. They're being beat by people that normally wouldn't touch them in BW. The skill required for SC2 isn't the same. You don't need 400 APM to make marines 7 minutes in, but you need it to strategically overcome your opponent in the mid and late game. MVP isn't invincible ? he pretty much always wins Well, if the BW teams really do switch over for real, then you will learn the meaning of "Woongjin Terran", of which, MVP was one. A Woongjin Terran is probably defined as a scrub, chobo Terran player who happened to be on the A-team solely because they're in Woongjin and because KeSPA had a rule where you had to send out at least one of each race in each ProLeague match. MVP was the cookie-cutter Woongjin Terran player. dem Woongjin Terrans. Poor Light D:
light was in MBC Game Hero with sea,thats how he became a good T,then he got sent off to woongjin in typical MBC Game Hero fashion(selling off one of their top most players like  Bisu and  JulyZerg before)
On October 29 2011 00:21 tyCe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 00:16 blubbdavid wrote:
Regarding derailment:
Could someone please enlight me? There is n.die_Jaedong, n.die_Soo, Bisu[shield], Slayers_Boxer, etc... Are those Fish server Clan tags? I don't know if these clans still exist, but they are the clan tags for those respective players. By.FlaSh, By.BaBy, Sea[Shield], NC_YellOw are some other notable. Most (all?) players were in clans before they were picked up by professional teams. When playing for their teams, most players have to drop their clan tags, although they are still existing/honorable members of their clans.
Clan By. still exists and so does [Shield]
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On October 29 2011 00:19 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 23:18 how2TL wrote:On October 28 2011 23:10 thoradycus wrote:On October 28 2011 23:08 slvcadv wrote:
Bisu, Flash and Jaedong aren't going to win every SC2 tourney out there. They may be very good SC2 players if they switch, but it's not guaranteed that their skill from BW is going to transfer to SC2.
Just look at Nada and July, they haven't won anything in SC2, yet they were BW legends. as much as i like nada hes not even half of flash Tied for OSL's and MSL's won, though. Can't say anything about Nada vs Flash in SC2 until we at least see a few games. flash understands BW much more than nada, and he's able to execute it. flash understands every match up and is at least five steps ahead, not just constrained to within a single game, but throughout the entire tournament. nada, on the other hand, with age, has been mechanically falling behind prior to his switch to SC2. watch some of his last dozen games or so and a lot rely heavily on cheese or timing attacks. despite SC2's macro help, flash's understanding of SC2 (if he changes) will be much more comprehensive than nada's, should he get sufficient practice, and he will defeat nada hands-down in no time. as someone said in an article, it's not a question of how, but when, should he make the change.
Vouch this.
You guys can't just point to BW championships won, remember that these guys are athletes and they have primes and declines.
MVP was the only modern Terran that has switched over to SC2 and look how well he's done.
Any competent A-teamer that can play a management game would have similar if not better results.
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Lord_J
Kenya1085 Posts
Hmm, I don't know how to feel about this.
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On October 29 2011 00:19 SabreUK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 00:17 tyCe wrote:On October 29 2011 00:12 ToguRo wrote:On October 28 2011 23:45 aksfjh wrote:On October 28 2011 23:34 jonaada wrote:On October 28 2011 23:21 Hexxed wrote:On October 28 2011 23:11 rasers wrote:On October 28 2011 23:08 slvcadv wrote:
Bisu, Flash and Jaedong aren't going to win every SC2 tourney out there. They may be very good SC2 players if they switch, but it's not guaranteed that their skill from BW is going to transfer to SC2.
Just look at Nada and July, they haven't won anything in SC2, yet they were BW legends. y legends 6 years ago. and nada is not even playing fulltime? or just lately. July has reached a finals and NaDa isn't playaing full time. It's been said that he spends the largest chunk of his time on school work. For him to make Code S every season while other full time pro gamers have struggled is amazing. Nada is scary. Lol so funny when people say "lol the brood war LEGENDS that are in sc2 atm aren´t dominating, so why should the new ones be any better?" Well the reason why the old BW players switched over to sc2 is because they can´t compete in brood war, they just aren´t good enough. The only thing I remember is MVP taking a game of Flash once in the MSL(mirrors can be unpredictable and random), but then flash won 3 in a row in an easy manner. Just remember, MVP is probably the best brood war player to switch to sc2, but he was quite terrible compared to other brood war pros, and yet he is dominating sc2. Think about that for a second. People are also stating that ForGG is a legend, which is not true. He was played out in proleague in the 2009-2010 season quite a bit, but he doesn´t come close to the top brood war players. He has a fun unique style which will probably carry well over to sc2, but he was never dominating. (excluding that one MSL which I still dont understand how he won) But even ForGG and MVP aren't nearly invincible in SC2. They're being beat by people that normally wouldn't touch them in BW. The skill required for SC2 isn't the same. You don't need 400 APM to make marines 7 minutes in, but you need it to strategically overcome your opponent in the mid and late game. MVP isn't invincible ? he pretty much always wins Well, if the BW teams really do switch over for real, then you will learn the meaning of "Woongjin Terran", of which, MVP was one. A Woongjin Terran is probably defined as a scrub, chobo Terran player who happened to be on the A-team solely because they're in Woongjin and because KeSPA had a rule where you had to send out at least one of each race in each ProLeague match. MVP was the cookie-cutter Woongjin Terran player. dem Woongjin Terrans. Poor Light D:
Well, Light should be treated as an MBC Terran, and MBC has a really solid Terran line-up. He's not been under the influence of Woongjin for too long, although his skills have notably dropped ever since he joined Woonjin.
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On October 29 2011 00:22 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 00:19 SabreUK wrote:On October 29 2011 00:17 tyCe wrote:On October 29 2011 00:12 ToguRo wrote:On October 28 2011 23:45 aksfjh wrote:On October 28 2011 23:34 jonaada wrote:On October 28 2011 23:21 Hexxed wrote:On October 28 2011 23:11 rasers wrote:On October 28 2011 23:08 slvcadv wrote:
Bisu, Flash and Jaedong aren't going to win every SC2 tourney out there. They may be very good SC2 players if they switch, but it's not guaranteed that their skill from BW is going to transfer to SC2.
Just look at Nada and July, they haven't won anything in SC2, yet they were BW legends. y legends 6 years ago. and nada is not even playing fulltime? or just lately. July has reached a finals and NaDa isn't playaing full time. It's been said that he spends the largest chunk of his time on school work. For him to make Code S every season while other full time pro gamers have struggled is amazing. Nada is scary. Lol so funny when people say "lol the brood war LEGENDS that are in sc2 atm aren´t dominating, so why should the new ones be any better?" Well the reason why the old BW players switched over to sc2 is because they can´t compete in brood war, they just aren´t good enough. The only thing I remember is MVP taking a game of Flash once in the MSL(mirrors can be unpredictable and random), but then flash won 3 in a row in an easy manner. Just remember, MVP is probably the best brood war player to switch to sc2, but he was quite terrible compared to other brood war pros, and yet he is dominating sc2. Think about that for a second. People are also stating that ForGG is a legend, which is not true. He was played out in proleague in the 2009-2010 season quite a bit, but he doesn´t come close to the top brood war players. He has a fun unique style which will probably carry well over to sc2, but he was never dominating. (excluding that one MSL which I still dont understand how he won) But even ForGG and MVP aren't nearly invincible in SC2. They're being beat by people that normally wouldn't touch them in BW. The skill required for SC2 isn't the same. You don't need 400 APM to make marines 7 minutes in, but you need it to strategically overcome your opponent in the mid and late game. MVP isn't invincible ? he pretty much always wins Well, if the BW teams really do switch over for real, then you will learn the meaning of "Woongjin Terran", of which, MVP was one. A Woongjin Terran is probably defined as a scrub, chobo Terran player who happened to be on the A-team solely because they're in Woongjin and because KeSPA had a rule where you had to send out at least one of each race in each ProLeague match. MVP was the cookie-cutter Woongjin Terran player. dem Woongjin Terrans. Poor Light D: light was in MBC Game Hero with sea,thats how he became a good T,then he got sent off to woongjin in typical MBC Game Hero fasion(selling off one of their top most players like Bisu and JulyZerg before)
MBCGame Hero has sold anyone they've ever had of worth, Thats something I recall from following BW for sure :D
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On October 29 2011 00:22 rareh wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 00:12 ToguRo wrote:On October 28 2011 23:45 aksfjh wrote:On October 28 2011 23:34 jonaada wrote:On October 28 2011 23:21 Hexxed wrote:On October 28 2011 23:11 rasers wrote:On October 28 2011 23:08 slvcadv wrote:
Bisu, Flash and Jaedong aren't going to win every SC2 tourney out there. They may be very good SC2 players if they switch, but it's not guaranteed that their skill from BW is going to transfer to SC2.
Just look at Nada and July, they haven't won anything in SC2, yet they were BW legends. y legends 6 years ago. and nada is not even playing fulltime? or just lately. July has reached a finals and NaDa isn't playaing full time. It's been said that he spends the largest chunk of his time on school work. For him to make Code S every season while other full time pro gamers have struggled is amazing. Nada is scary. Lol so funny when people say "lol the brood war LEGENDS that are in sc2 atm aren´t dominating, so why should the new ones be any better?" Well the reason why the old BW players switched over to sc2 is because they can´t compete in brood war, they just aren´t good enough. The only thing I remember is MVP taking a game of Flash once in the MSL(mirrors can be unpredictable and random), but then flash won 3 in a row in an easy manner. Just remember, MVP is probably the best brood war player to switch to sc2, but he was quite terrible compared to other brood war pros, and yet he is dominating sc2. Think about that for a second. People are also stating that ForGG is a legend, which is not true. He was played out in proleague in the 2009-2010 season quite a bit, but he doesn´t come close to the top brood war players. He has a fun unique style which will probably carry well over to sc2, but he was never dominating. (excluding that one MSL which I still dont understand how he won) But even ForGG and MVP aren't nearly invincible in SC2. They're being beat by people that normally wouldn't touch them in BW. The skill required for SC2 isn't the same. You don't need 400 APM to make marines 7 minutes in, but you need it to strategically overcome your opponent in the mid and late game. MVP isn't invincible ? he pretty much always wins MMA has a 12-6 record against him.
And Stork is beast vs other S-class players. Does that make them not S-Class?
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On October 29 2011 00:21 kakaman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 00:18 Merlimoo wrote:On October 29 2011 00:17 Merlimoo wrote:On October 29 2011 00:16 setzer wrote:On October 29 2011 00:16 Merlimoo wrote:On October 29 2011 00:14 setzer wrote:On October 29 2011 00:01 GTLAllDayEveryDay wrote:
I cant wait for the BW pros to switch over so they can get man handled. It doesnt take too much talent to be the top player at a game that only a handful of players play. SC2 increased the player count many times over. It's funny to see all these BW fanboys speaking hypothetical about their heroes dominating the SC2, but you damn well know in their hearts they're hoping they don't switch because then if players like FlaSh, Jaedong, Bisu switch and become good, but don't reach the mind boggling heights of their BW glory, it just proves that they're not RTS gods, just exceptional BW players that were able to excel in a mechanically difficult game -- remember this is a strategy game, it shouldn't take 400 APM to execute a strategy. Also BW became a very niche thing over the years, like curling. Do you realize the current top players in the world are all former BW pros? None of them were every as skilled or dedicated as the current best in BW and isn't going to change if the players you mentioned switch in the prime of their career. If you are going to continue posting at least put more thought into what you are saying. You mean like Huk and Stephano who are the ones that win theses days... ?!? I'm talking about Korea So a small community like a he was talking about... Like he said. Everyone said : "hoo korean are coming in the west, they will kill everyone". The facts are, they aren't anymore. Point. Arguably the best Koreans from GSL haven't participated in Western tournaments yet. Also, Providence won't be a good indicator, because most Koreans have to go through the open bracket, while Idra already is assured 4th place.
Not only that, but there are a handful of foreigners who have been able to hang with the Koreans. He makes it seem like the pro foreigners all caught up.
Really, it's only been Idra/stephano and huk. the rest haven't get blown out for the most part and many of the top koreans knock each other out in these tournaments, not by foreigners.
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On October 29 2011 00:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2011 00:08 endy wrote:On October 29 2011 00:04 BLinD-RawR wrote:On October 29 2011 00:03 Holgerius wrote:
What am I doing reading this thread? I better stay out, or this will end in a ban for me. >_< I'm still alive,I'll fight your fight! We will all will. I'm just so sad right now. I feel like the hero in a RPG when the bad guys just burned my whole village and everyone's dead, but I'll use all the will I've left to avenge them. I'm a lv.10 Wraith(I do not exist in SC2) can I join your party?:p
I suddenly want there to be a D&D style starcraft game as well as a videogame rpg and possibly an mmo. I am not entirely sure I trust Blizzard to make any of those concepts work however. Thanks guys now I'm going to pine for things that cannot be.
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even though i almost only watch sc2 i hope that only some b-team players switch over. because i'd be sad to see guys like jaedong or flash failing at sc2, which i can see happen (even if very unlikely. people would think they fail if they didn't win everything which i think is doubtful) as the diffference between the very best and the best isn't as big as in BW.
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