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InvXXVII
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada242 Posts
October 19 2011 02:35 GMT
#61
I guess that Starcraft is like every other sport right: if you play it, you will enjoy watching it so much more. However, not playing is doesn't mean you can't enjoy it at all. There are way more Americans watching football than there are people playing football. You just need to take the time to understand the basics of the game and you're set to go. The only thing that's different about starcraft is that SCII is a video game, AND there are a lot of stigmas associated to being a gamer. I think that once people set aside the preconception they have of so-called "nerds", Starcraft will be extremely enjoyable even if you don't play it.
A good loser is still a loser.
MethodSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States928 Posts
October 19 2011 02:54 GMT
#62
On October 19 2011 11:31 MooMooMugi wrote:
Joe Rogan: " I have no time for this."


I think that was him accentuating that the game is too complex to explain in the time of the show, as well that he wanted to go into the next subject of the show.
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
October 19 2011 03:02 GMT
#63
On October 19 2011 07:56 firalol wrote:
Soccer in the USA is still barely accepted, the only way to watch it is on the extra pay channels like fox soccer or gol tv. So as for starcraft going main stream? It's possible but if the biggest game in the world can't gain ground in the USA what chance does a video game have?


Well that isn't the only thing you can infer from that analogy though. Yes that is one way of looking at it. The other is that the overall popularity of the sport doesn't matter. What matters is interest of your demographic, and how expensive is it to put it on a time slot.

For example, I'm sure every sport channel would love to have Barclays on at some point. But they have to pay a good amount of money to have the right to air it, and their demographic wouldn't want to miss Hockey/Football/Basketball etc. So is the cost of putting Man U vs Arsenal at 3 am worth it? No.

But what about putting darts in the afternoon? There is a small following, but more importantly, it is very cheap to put on TV. I think SC2 would fall under this umbrella. Instead of paying millions for premiere Soccer league, they can pay relatively nothing to put on something people enjoy, and they can put it at any time and still get a decent following.

We talkin about PRACTICE
daxile
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada829 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 03:38:03
October 19 2011 03:35 GMT
#64
It's crazy how many people had the wrong idea about Joe Rogan, they immediately dismissed him with the knowledge that he's a reality TV show host, probably rightfully so. He's one of the few level headed celebrities out there and he is completely down to earth, open minded, and acknowledges that where he is right now is a combination of hard work and luck. He doesn't feel entitled to his success nor does he expect anyone to know him. His podcast is easily one of the most eye-opening and awesome things on the internet, even if you look passed all the goofy high talk, there's tons of cool stories and he does raise a lot of important questions about human interaction and life in general. Also kind of exposes some of the bullshit craziness that happens in the comedy world, as he is quite the comedy connoisseur.

Also the guests he brings on are equally interesting, Bryan Callen is one of my favourite guests on that show, he's appeared in many movies in various extra roles, most notably in the Hangover. Dude's incredibly intelligent and interesting, i'd recommend watching any podcast featuring him or Duncan Trussell.

The guy on the right was the tech guy Brian "redban", he's a bit weird at times and I don't quite understand why he's wearing a blizzard t-shirt but he may be a fan of WoW or something. *shrugs*.
to live is to suffer
Arkless
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1547 Posts
October 19 2011 03:40 GMT
#65
Duncan and Artosis have been going back and forth over twitter, Trussell getting offers and hopefully gonna go to providence
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Arkless
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1547 Posts
October 19 2011 03:42 GMT
#66
On October 19 2011 12:35 daxile wrote:
It's crazy how many people had the wrong idea about Joe Rogan, they immediately dismissed him with the knowledge that he's a reality TV show host, probably rightfully so. He's one of the few level headed celebrities out there and he is completely down to earth, open minded, and acknowledges that where he is right now is a combination of hard work and luck. He doesn't feel entitled to his success nor does he expect anyone to know him. His podcast is easily one of the most eye-opening and awesome things on the internet, even if you look passed all the goofy high talk, there's tons of cool stories and he does raise a lot of important questions about human interaction and life in general. Also kind of exposes some of the bullshit craziness that happens in the comedy world, as he is quite the comedy connoisseur.

Also the guests he brings on are equally interesting, Bryan Callen is one of my favourite guests on that show, he's appeared in many movies in various extra roles, most notably in the Hangover. Dude's incredibly intelligent and interesting, i'd recommend watching any podcast featuring him or Duncan Trussell.

The guy on the right was the tech guy Brian "redban", he's a bit weird at times and I don't quite understand why he's wearing a blizzard t-shirt but he may be a fan of WoW or something. *shrugs*.

Me and Rogan are very similar within our interests in life. Been listening to his podcasts since about episode 20, have since listened to em all. They are all funny, informative, at the same time fucking ludacris and crazy. He has awesome guests from friends like Joey diaz duncan trussell and ari shaffir, to more "classy" guests like anthony bourdain, and a bunch of scholars n shit as well. Best podcast out there imo
http://www.mixcloud.com/Arkless/ http://www.soundcloud.com/Arkless
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
October 19 2011 03:51 GMT
#67
Pretty funny that earlier in the podcast they take about commercials sucking people into insane amounts of consumerism (fancy car bit) and then in the StarCraft bit they plug Razer mice that's "specially designed for this shit."

It's great to here new players be enthusiastic about the game. lol'd at the guy talking about larvae inject spraying out of the Queen's ass.
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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
October 19 2011 03:53 GMT
#68
I love joe rogan

though when I first saw his standup, he was so so so much more different than his usual TV persona so it kinda shocked me

but in a good way
dats racist
Steemer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada98 Posts
October 19 2011 04:02 GMT
#69
"during these micro skirmishes you gotta be thinkin like, I gotta spray the fuckin' hive, I gotta make like a baneling nest, shiiiit" this is gold
Thales
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States27 Posts
October 19 2011 06:01 GMT
#70
I listened to that episode today and was very pleased with Brian Redban talking up sc2. I agree that if someone like Artosis or Day9 sat down with Joe, he'd more than likely get hooked, or at least he'd appreciate the game a lot more.
"And God, I, I hope that whenever he loses he doesn't print off some paragraph of insulting things about you know.. calling people stacks of mother fuckers and everything like that" - Brother Mack
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
October 19 2011 06:19 GMT
#71
Here's Joe Rogan's twitter btw:

http://twitter.com/#!/joerogan

Feel free to follow him and maybe send a positive message about his show & SC2.

Helping eSports +1.
kazie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
258 Posts
October 19 2011 06:53 GMT
#72
the prophets have spoken LOL
Thugtronik
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand452 Posts
October 19 2011 07:05 GMT
#73
that's wicked that it has come up in the podcast. i just got into listening to his podcast a couple of months ago and i'm fucking hooked. so much interesting and hilarious discussion goes on. joe rogan is a fucking onto it dude. moar exposure for sc2!!!
DIG DIG COME ON LET ME DIG I CAN DETECT
deathr0w
Profile Joined January 2011
United States114 Posts
October 19 2011 07:09 GMT
#74
SC2 has a lot of friendly aspects to it. If you have never seen StarCraft you can still understand what's going on somewhat. You see people making workers to get money then you see someone making an army to go destroy the other person. It's like chess with killing and really good graphics. People will catch on.
What do you do if your opponent does something weird? Go fucking kill him - Day[9]
Treble557
Profile Joined August 2010
United States221 Posts
October 19 2011 08:00 GMT
#75
Lol, some of the shit they talk about on this show is a little out there. Still interesting tho.
John Madden
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
American Samoa894 Posts
October 19 2011 08:08 GMT
#76
On October 19 2011 11:31 Awesomeness wrote:
Started watching it for the sc2-part, finished up watching the whole episode. Cool guys.

Check out more of his videos.
FOOTBALL
Raisauce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada864 Posts
October 19 2011 08:08 GMT
#77
Joe Rogan is such an awesome person. Thanks for introducing me to his podcast. I ended up watching the entire thing! Can't wait for more.
Ryukku
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore545 Posts
October 19 2011 08:18 GMT
#78
On October 19 2011 11:25 unit wrote:
my only question going in is who is Joe Rogan?
that said, when i try to explain starcraft to someone who knows nothing about the game i avoid specific terms and go to general terms

me teaching a kid who doesnt even know what half the buildings and units are goes something like this

"build worker, hit s [most of my friends start terran because its human] ok click on a worker hit b twice and click anywhere, now you have a rax, when its done you can make a basic fighting unit -- later on BUILD SHOOTA BUILD SHOOTA BUILD WORKA!!!!~" (i like to try to make it hilarious and memorable xD)


I agree with you that when explaining SC2 to someone who doesnt play, i usually avoid all the specific names to avoid confusing them. I try to dumb down the game to the bare basics. SC2 is an economy based game, and with the money, you do 3 main things. Army, Tech, more money. When i watch games with my friends who dont play sc2, i explain it to them that ok this guy is getting army while this guy is going econ. Army has to hit econ before econ reaps its benefits if not he falls behind, cause with a bigger econ u can get a bigger army.

Most of the time they get it, then ill go on to tell them what whichever side can do to turn the game around. And thats when i go deeper into the game!

=D
Eviscerador
Profile Joined October 2011
Spain286 Posts
October 19 2011 08:26 GMT
#79
On October 19 2011 17:18 Ryukku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 11:25 unit wrote:
my only question going in is who is Joe Rogan?
that said, when i try to explain starcraft to someone who knows nothing about the game i avoid specific terms and go to general terms

me teaching a kid who doesnt even know what half the buildings and units are goes something like this

"build worker, hit s [most of my friends start terran because its human] ok click on a worker hit b twice and click anywhere, now you have a rax, when its done you can make a basic fighting unit -- later on BUILD SHOOTA BUILD SHOOTA BUILD WORKA!!!!~" (i like to try to make it hilarious and memorable xD)


I agree with you that when explaining SC2 to someone who doesnt play, i usually avoid all the specific names to avoid confusing them. I try to dumb down the game to the bare basics. SC2 is an economy based game, and with the money, you do 3 main things. Army, Tech, more money. When i watch games with my friends who dont play sc2, i explain it to them that ok this guy is getting army while this guy is going econ. Army has to hit econ before econ reaps its benefits if not he falls behind, cause with a bigger econ u can get a bigger army.

Most of the time they get it, then ill go on to tell them what whichever side can do to turn the game around. And thats when i go deeper into the game!

=D

In the past Valencia Dreamhack, a small cable channel in Spain broadcasted the tourney in spanish with two spanish amateur casters, but between games they keep airing explanation videos of what SC2 is, and how it works. They explained micro, macro, each race concept, and a small bio of E-sports so far.

Even my wife found them interesting, with zero SC2 knowledge. Now thanks to that videos and my friendship with one of the casters, she is hooked to the game, and we both enjoyed the MLG orlando in the past weekend. (well, i was casting the games for her, since she doesn't understand english)

So maybe it is just possible to keep people with no RTS knowledge (as far as it goes, my wife gaming knowledge is "angry brids" and "plants vs zombies" in the Iphone) just doing beginner oriented videos on each tv shows from time to time.
A victorious warrior wins first, then goes to war. A defeated warrior goes to war and then seeks to win.
Nash
Profile Joined October 2011
151 Posts
October 19 2011 08:30 GMT
#80
Is this some kind of listen-only-because-they're-so-stupid-show?
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