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On December 18 2011 11:09 Nightmare-br wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 10:38 Willsonite wrote:
Wouldn't me much of a news website if it didn't have the latest news up ASAP. In my opinion, the spoiler policy of Team Liquid might bother a lot of you guys, but it doesn't stop you from visiting the site. But I guarantee that if it doesn't existed, a lot of people would stop coming here.
I seriously doubt that. There isn't any site remotely close to TL in terms of content, users, etc. I'm sure there would be a handful of vindictive nuts who'd rageleave, but I don't think that would be true for the majority. There's no where else to go.
Additionally, I think a lot more would be gained than lost. If TL constantly had news sitting on the home page, a lot more traffic could be generated by random people just coming here who aren't already dedicated TL users. There are a TON of starcraft fans who aren't a part of TL, and I think a lot of them would be attracted if news was more prominent here. It'd be more obvious where to go, goggle might end up directing here, etc. There is no way that new traffic wouldn't outweigh the few old people who wouldn't frequent anymore.
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So how hard would it be to implement a system in which when you make an article or thread with spoilers there is an option you can check for spoilers. Then in your profile you can choose to block those from appearing on the front page.
Either way people complaining about spoilers shouldn't be on here anyway. It really is like going on ESPN to read articles and hoping you don't see the score of the game you're recording cause the people you watch the game with are coming over late. You shouldn't put yourself in that position. The internet shouldn't cater to you.
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On December 18 2011 11:52 LegendaryZ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 11:47 Nightmare-br wrote:On December 18 2011 11:35 LegendaryZ wrote:
Do you people whine about this stuff in every other aspect of your life too? (ie. movies, books, TV shows, sports news, etc.) I really don't understand why everyone has to be inconvenienced because a handful of people are batshit paranoid about something really stupid... First, SC is not like those things, this already has been discussed here, just go back a few pages. Second, i really don't understand why a lot of people here can't click on a thread on the left of the main page with a spoiler tag so other people can still visit Team Liquid and enjoy the game as well as you did. It's such a small thing we are asking for you guys, while you are basically asking for us to not come here while we still didn't watch the game, wich is not as easy some of you might think. (because of reasons that also already have beem discussed here) And it's such a small thing that we're asking you to understand that if you're going to come onto a community news website and discussion board, to expect that people are probably going to blab the results at one point or another, putting you in the same exact position. Even if TL.net placed a rule against spoilers, what's to stop a person from posting a thread saying PLAYER X WINS TOURNAMENT Y! Or bringing up the results in the middle of a different thread? Unless you can guarantee that won't happen (and you can't), it makes absolutely no sense for you to come to a site like this in the first place if you are really that invested in not having results disclosed.
Actually I think it makes perfect sense, since Team Liquid in my opinion is by far the best place that can avoid something like this from happening because of its moderation.
And by the way, there is a rule against spoilers: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17883 #2
Edit: I wiil have to leave the discussion because it's kinda late here and I fell like this thread is just going in circles. I will just say I agree with Torte de Lini points.
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On December 18 2011 11:52 emc wrote:
honestly, any time there is a major event where I want to watch it on vods much later than when it was live, then I don't even OPEN TL. Seriously, have some self control. Also, it's dumb to not talk about results instantly as they happen because often those results were due to metagame shifts or new strategies that need to be talked about.
No one is stopping you from doing those things - Just do it in the appropriate threads and label the spoilers so other people can enjoy it too. Is that so hard to ask? Do you have to go around everywhere shouting "OMG X IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD BONJWA BONJWA BONJWA?"
On December 18 2011 12:00 Nightmare-br wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 11:52 LegendaryZ wrote:On December 18 2011 11:47 Nightmare-br wrote:On December 18 2011 11:35 LegendaryZ wrote:
Do you people whine about this stuff in every other aspect of your life too? (ie. movies, books, TV shows, sports news, etc.) I really don't understand why everyone has to be inconvenienced because a handful of people are batshit paranoid about something really stupid... First, SC is not like those things, this already has been discussed here, just go back a few pages. Second, i really don't understand why a lot of people here can't click on a thread on the left of the main page with a spoiler tag so other people can still visit Team Liquid and enjoy the game as well as you did. It's such a small thing we are asking for you guys, while you are basically asking for us to not come here while we still didn't watch the game, wich is not as easy some of you might think. (because of reasons that also already have beem discussed here) And it's such a small thing that we're asking you to understand that if you're going to come onto a community news website and discussion board, to expect that people are probably going to blab the results at one point or another, putting you in the same exact position. Even if TL.net placed a rule against spoilers, what's to stop a person from posting a thread saying PLAYER X WINS TOURNAMENT Y! Or bringing up the results in the middle of a different thread? Unless you can guarantee that won't happen (and you can't), it makes absolutely no sense for you to come to a site like this in the first place if you are really that invested in not having results disclosed. Actually I think it makes perfect sense, since Team Liquid in my opinion is by far the best place that can avoid something like this from happening because of its moderation. And by the way, there is a rule against spoilers: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17883 #2
Man, why do we have police? There's just going to be crimes anyway, since we can't stop it, might as well stop trying.
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I'll repost what I put in the MMA thread.
What's with the complaining about spoilers on the first page?
People keep going "I WANT SC2 TO BE CONSIDERED A SPORT", but you don't want any official articles on the subject for like, X amount of days after release? After football/hockey games they are discussing the results EVERYWHERE. After the NBA playoffs, newpapers are talking about it and regular news channels are on it minutes after. The fact is, you just need to suck it up. What makes competitive sports amazing is the casting and information and records broken behind them. The sooner we can get beyond this silly concept of "spoiling" results even after they have been broadcasted, the sooner we can be legitimized more. If you don't want to "spoil" yourself, then don't go on the freaking websites dedicated to SC2 news.
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On December 18 2011 11:53 Integra wrote:
And how does that make people paranoid and stupid? lol. And still people come to TL for other things then to just read news and discuss SC2, there are bloggs, Streams, other communitys, what about the people that work on TL.Net and so forth. There are a billion reasons other than SC2 discussion to be on TL.net
It's stupid because it's not a sensible expectation to go on an internet website where people are discussing current events and expect everyone to be discreet about things that other people might not want to hear. The whole damned website might as well be a big spoiler tag then... If you had half a brain, you'd understand that you're running the risk of having results spoiled whenever you come to this website.
Also, even if we were to heavily enforce a spoiler policy, how long after the event is it not ok to talk about it outside of spoiler tages?
Remember the + Show Spoiler + final?
Yeah. + Show Spoiler +Those 3 bunker rushes were stupid.
Wouldn't want newcomers who haven't seen the games yet to have any results spoiled now would we? 
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On December 18 2011 12:00 Nightmare-br wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 11:52 LegendaryZ wrote:On December 18 2011 11:47 Nightmare-br wrote:On December 18 2011 11:35 LegendaryZ wrote:
Do you people whine about this stuff in every other aspect of your life too? (ie. movies, books, TV shows, sports news, etc.) I really don't understand why everyone has to be inconvenienced because a handful of people are batshit paranoid about something really stupid... First, SC is not like those things, this already has been discussed here, just go back a few pages. Second, i really don't understand why a lot of people here can't click on a thread on the left of the main page with a spoiler tag so other people can still visit Team Liquid and enjoy the game as well as you did. It's such a small thing we are asking for you guys, while you are basically asking for us to not come here while we still didn't watch the game, wich is not as easy some of you might think. (because of reasons that also already have beem discussed here) And it's such a small thing that we're asking you to understand that if you're going to come onto a community news website and discussion board, to expect that people are probably going to blab the results at one point or another, putting you in the same exact position. Even if TL.net placed a rule against spoilers, what's to stop a person from posting a thread saying PLAYER X WINS TOURNAMENT Y! Or bringing up the results in the middle of a different thread? Unless you can guarantee that won't happen (and you can't), it makes absolutely no sense for you to come to a site like this in the first place if you are really that invested in not having results disclosed. Actually I think it makes perfect sense, since Team Liquid in my opinion is by far the best place that can avoid something like this from happening because of its moderation. And by the way, there is a rule against spoilers: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17883 #2
Even with moderation, mods can't catch every single thread and/or post in real time as they appear. If you're on this site, you're constantly running an unnecessary risk. If you're going to bitch about it, don't come until you've seen the games. It's pretty simple...
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The results from the front page poll speak for themselves, however I do just want to throw my vote along in with the rest of the crowd.
I think it is absurd that we can't show anything related to the match, on a Starcraft news site, and I agree 100% with tylers quote from page one.
If you want the VODS without getting the news, you better find a place to get the VODS that doesnt lead you through the front page of teamliquid.
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On December 18 2011 12:03 LegendaryZ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 11:53 Integra wrote:
And how does that make people paranoid and stupid? lol. And still people come to TL for other things then to just read news and discuss SC2, there are bloggs, Streams, other communitys, what about the people that work on TL.Net and so forth. There are a billion reasons other than SC2 discussion to be on TL.net It's stupid because it's not a sensible expectation to go on an internet website where people are discussing current events and expect everyone to be discreet about things that other people might not want to hear. The whole damned website might as well be a big spoiler tag then... If you had half a brain, you'd understand that you're running the risk of having results spoiled whenever you come to this website. Also, even if we were to heavily enforce a spoiler policy, how long after the event is it not ok to talk about it outside of spoiler tages? Remember the + Show Spoiler + final? Yeah. + Show Spoiler +Those 3 bunker rushes were stupid. Wouldn't want newcomers who haven't seen the games yet to have any results spoiled now would we?
You just gave an example on how easy it is to not spoil things, good job!
people logical thinking and expectation =//= what they feel when they see something being spoiled, either if they express it or not they still feel angry when someone spoils it for them it has nothing to with rational thinking, and there already is a policy on TL that says that you should not spoil things in the title on the forums.
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On December 18 2011 12:03 LegendaryZ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 11:53 Integra wrote:
And how does that make people paranoid and stupid? lol. And still people come to TL for other things then to just read news and discuss SC2, there are bloggs, Streams, other communitys, what about the people that work on TL.Net and so forth. There are a billion reasons other than SC2 discussion to be on TL.net It's stupid because it's not a sensible expectation to go on an internet website where people are discussing current events and expect everyone to be discreet about things that other people might not want to hear. The whole damned website might as well be a big spoiler tag then... If you had half a brain, you'd understand that you're running the risk of having results spoiled whenever you come to this website. Also, even if we were to heavily enforce a spoiler policy, how long after the event is it not ok to talk about it outside of spoiler tages? Remember the + Show Spoiler + final? Yeah. + Show Spoiler +Those 3 bunker rushes were stupid. Wouldn't want newcomers who haven't seen the games yet to have any results spoiled now would we?
you do know that the spolier rules apply for only 48 hours after the match.
after that everyone is expected to know what happened.
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On December 18 2011 12:05 LegendaryZ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 12:00 Nightmare-br wrote:On December 18 2011 11:52 LegendaryZ wrote:On December 18 2011 11:47 Nightmare-br wrote:On December 18 2011 11:35 LegendaryZ wrote:
Do you people whine about this stuff in every other aspect of your life too? (ie. movies, books, TV shows, sports news, etc.) I really don't understand why everyone has to be inconvenienced because a handful of people are batshit paranoid about something really stupid... First, SC is not like those things, this already has been discussed here, just go back a few pages. Second, i really don't understand why a lot of people here can't click on a thread on the left of the main page with a spoiler tag so other people can still visit Team Liquid and enjoy the game as well as you did. It's such a small thing we are asking for you guys, while you are basically asking for us to not come here while we still didn't watch the game, wich is not as easy some of you might think. (because of reasons that also already have beem discussed here) And it's such a small thing that we're asking you to understand that if you're going to come onto a community news website and discussion board, to expect that people are probably going to blab the results at one point or another, putting you in the same exact position. Even if TL.net placed a rule against spoilers, what's to stop a person from posting a thread saying PLAYER X WINS TOURNAMENT Y! Or bringing up the results in the middle of a different thread? Unless you can guarantee that won't happen (and you can't), it makes absolutely no sense for you to come to a site like this in the first place if you are really that invested in not having results disclosed. Actually I think it makes perfect sense, since Team Liquid in my opinion is by far the best place that can avoid something like this from happening because of its moderation. And by the way, there is a rule against spoilers: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17883 #2 Even with moderation, mods can't catch every single thread and/or post in real time as they appear. If you're on this site, you're constantly running an unnecessary risk. If you're going to bitch about it, don't come until you've seen the games. It's pretty simple...
How come it can't be as simple as someone putting spoiler tags in a thread/title?
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On December 18 2011 12:07 BLinD-RawR wrote:
you do know that the spolier rules apply for only 48 hours after the match.
after that everyone is expected to know what happened.
You know that's funny because I could have sworn I've seen people bitch and moan about people talking about the results of games that happened over a year ago. Is it their fault that they were late to the party? Maybe they want to enjoy Boxer vs. Oov just like we did way back when... -_-
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On December 18 2011 12:10 LegendaryZ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 12:07 BLinD-RawR wrote:
you do know that the spolier rules apply for only 48 hours after the match.
after that everyone is expected to know what happened. You know that's funny because I could have sworn I've seen people bitch and moan about people talking about the results of games that happened over a year ago. Is it their fault that they were late to the party? Maybe they want to enjoy Boxer vs. Oov just like we did way back when... -_-
Actually 48 hours is fine for me, as is most other people that complains about spoilers. Maybe you should read up before discussing about it ?
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teamliquid is the biggest english site in the world for starcraft news. what do people think before clicking the site? if they dont want to be spoiled, then go finish up the vods before visiting TL.
absolutely atrociousq
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On December 18 2011 12:08 Cham wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 12:05 LegendaryZ wrote:On December 18 2011 12:00 Nightmare-br wrote:On December 18 2011 11:52 LegendaryZ wrote:On December 18 2011 11:47 Nightmare-br wrote:On December 18 2011 11:35 LegendaryZ wrote:
Do you people whine about this stuff in every other aspect of your life too? (ie. movies, books, TV shows, sports news, etc.) I really don't understand why everyone has to be inconvenienced because a handful of people are batshit paranoid about something really stupid... First, SC is not like those things, this already has been discussed here, just go back a few pages. Second, i really don't understand why a lot of people here can't click on a thread on the left of the main page with a spoiler tag so other people can still visit Team Liquid and enjoy the game as well as you did. It's such a small thing we are asking for you guys, while you are basically asking for us to not come here while we still didn't watch the game, wich is not as easy some of you might think. (because of reasons that also already have beem discussed here) And it's such a small thing that we're asking you to understand that if you're going to come onto a community news website and discussion board, to expect that people are probably going to blab the results at one point or another, putting you in the same exact position. Even if TL.net placed a rule against spoilers, what's to stop a person from posting a thread saying PLAYER X WINS TOURNAMENT Y! Or bringing up the results in the middle of a different thread? Unless you can guarantee that won't happen (and you can't), it makes absolutely no sense for you to come to a site like this in the first place if you are really that invested in not having results disclosed. Actually I think it makes perfect sense, since Team Liquid in my opinion is by far the best place that can avoid something like this from happening because of its moderation. And by the way, there is a rule against spoilers: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17883 #2 Even with moderation, mods can't catch every single thread and/or post in real time as they appear. If you're on this site, you're constantly running an unnecessary risk. If you're going to bitch about it, don't come until you've seen the games. It's pretty simple... How come it can't be as simple as someone putting spoiler tags in a thread/title?
How come we can't have world peace when it's as simple as people not hitting each other? People are liable not to follow rules, even if they're really simple ones. As long as you're around them, you're just going to have to accept that. In this scenario if you're GENUINELY going to get upset if someone spoils the results, why don't you take the initiative to keep yourself happy by not coming to a place where people are liable to do that? Why are you taking a risk and then complaining that you got burned? I get that there are lots of reasons why one might want to come here other than SC2 results, but if you seriously care that much (and I doubt there are many people that do), then you probably shouldn't be here until you watch the games in question.
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On December 18 2011 12:08 Cham wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 12:05 LegendaryZ wrote:On December 18 2011 12:00 Nightmare-br wrote:On December 18 2011 11:52 LegendaryZ wrote:On December 18 2011 11:47 Nightmare-br wrote:On December 18 2011 11:35 LegendaryZ wrote:
Do you people whine about this stuff in every other aspect of your life too? (ie. movies, books, TV shows, sports news, etc.) I really don't understand why everyone has to be inconvenienced because a handful of people are batshit paranoid about something really stupid... First, SC is not like those things, this already has been discussed here, just go back a few pages. Second, i really don't understand why a lot of people here can't click on a thread on the left of the main page with a spoiler tag so other people can still visit Team Liquid and enjoy the game as well as you did. It's such a small thing we are asking for you guys, while you are basically asking for us to not come here while we still didn't watch the game, wich is not as easy some of you might think. (because of reasons that also already have beem discussed here) And it's such a small thing that we're asking you to understand that if you're going to come onto a community news website and discussion board, to expect that people are probably going to blab the results at one point or another, putting you in the same exact position. Even if TL.net placed a rule against spoilers, what's to stop a person from posting a thread saying PLAYER X WINS TOURNAMENT Y! Or bringing up the results in the middle of a different thread? Unless you can guarantee that won't happen (and you can't), it makes absolutely no sense for you to come to a site like this in the first place if you are really that invested in not having results disclosed. Actually I think it makes perfect sense, since Team Liquid in my opinion is by far the best place that can avoid something like this from happening because of its moderation. And by the way, there is a rule against spoilers: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17883 #2 Even with moderation, mods can't catch every single thread and/or post in real time as they appear. If you're on this site, you're constantly running an unnecessary risk. If you're going to bitch about it, don't come until you've seen the games. It's pretty simple... How come it can't be as simple as someone putting spoiler tags in a thread/title?
Lack of respect for other members of the community makes putting in effort really difficult.
Maybe i'm wrong, but i view this as a community website. Part of that word community implies some level of respect for the other people in that community. If a huge % of people are going to be hurt by something you voluntarily choose to do, then if this really is a community and you're a part of it then you shouldn't do it.
If however this is a news site, and not a community site, then spoilers shouldn't be disallowed at all. Go nuts.
So what is it? Community first or News first? Tough choice to make really. You can't have it both ways. You either protect the community and disallow spoilers (within a reasonable time frame) or you say fuck the community and have it a free for all so people can spoil things without being afraid to post.
I'll always err on the side of protecting those who haven't seen the matches yet. It shouldn't be difficult for people to restrain themselves when making thread titles unless they're fundementally retarded in the head, and that way no one suffers except for those with no respect for their fellow community members. Those kinda people don't earn sympathy from me.
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I don't think there is a reason to have spoilers. If the game was interesting, like the blizzard cup finals, and someone sees everyone talking about how awesome it was they are going to go watch it. I would definitely have watched the finals even if I knew who won. I think by having the spoiler rule in place people are worried about making post on websites, and then people just forget it ever happened. If everyone is talking about the amazing 0-3 comeback someone made, and the decision to go roach/bane drop will get people to go watch the VODS.
If a game was good, I will watch it even if I know the outcome of it. If a lot of people are talking about a certain game it is going to get me interested to actually see it for myself. If nobody mentions it, or it is just brought up casually with spoilers, and 5 replies. I am going to just think it was a boring game and not bother.
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On December 18 2011 12:12 Integra wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 12:10 LegendaryZ wrote:On December 18 2011 12:07 BLinD-RawR wrote:
you do know that the spolier rules apply for only 48 hours after the match.
after that everyone is expected to know what happened. You know that's funny because I could have sworn I've seen people bitch and moan about people talking about the results of games that happened over a year ago. Is it their fault that they were late to the party? Maybe they want to enjoy Boxer vs. Oov just like we did way back when... -_- Actually 48 hours is fine for me, as is most other people that complains about spoilers. Maybe you should read up before discussing about it ?
What is there to "read up on"? I've read this argument over and over again for the past god knows how many years... Different people have massively different expectations. 48 hours might be fine for you, but what about the people out there that prefer 72 hours or 1 week? Aren't you screwing up their experience when just as you stated, it is easy enough not to? Should all matchups and results always be in spoilers regardless of how old they are since it wouldn't take that much effort and it would keep anyone from ever possibly being spoiled?
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On December 18 2011 12:15 LegendaryZ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2011 12:08 Cham wrote:On December 18 2011 12:05 LegendaryZ wrote:On December 18 2011 12:00 Nightmare-br wrote:On December 18 2011 11:52 LegendaryZ wrote:On December 18 2011 11:47 Nightmare-br wrote:On December 18 2011 11:35 LegendaryZ wrote:
Do you people whine about this stuff in every other aspect of your life too? (ie. movies, books, TV shows, sports news, etc.) I really don't understand why everyone has to be inconvenienced because a handful of people are batshit paranoid about something really stupid... First, SC is not like those things, this already has been discussed here, just go back a few pages. Second, i really don't understand why a lot of people here can't click on a thread on the left of the main page with a spoiler tag so other people can still visit Team Liquid and enjoy the game as well as you did. It's such a small thing we are asking for you guys, while you are basically asking for us to not come here while we still didn't watch the game, wich is not as easy some of you might think. (because of reasons that also already have beem discussed here) And it's such a small thing that we're asking you to understand that if you're going to come onto a community news website and discussion board, to expect that people are probably going to blab the results at one point or another, putting you in the same exact position. Even if TL.net placed a rule against spoilers, what's to stop a person from posting a thread saying PLAYER X WINS TOURNAMENT Y! Or bringing up the results in the middle of a different thread? Unless you can guarantee that won't happen (and you can't), it makes absolutely no sense for you to come to a site like this in the first place if you are really that invested in not having results disclosed. Actually I think it makes perfect sense, since Team Liquid in my opinion is by far the best place that can avoid something like this from happening because of its moderation. And by the way, there is a rule against spoilers: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=17883 #2 Even with moderation, mods can't catch every single thread and/or post in real time as they appear. If you're on this site, you're constantly running an unnecessary risk. If you're going to bitch about it, don't come until you've seen the games. It's pretty simple... How come it can't be as simple as someone putting spoiler tags in a thread/title? How come we can't have world peace when it's as simple as people not hitting each other? People are liable not to follow rules, even if they're really simple ones. As long as you're around them, you're just going to have to accept that. In this scenario if you're GENUINELY going to get upset if someone spoils the results, why don't you take the initiative to keep yourself happy by not coming to a place where people are liable to do that? Why are you taking a risk and then complaining that you got burned? I get that there are lots of reasons why one might want to come here other than SC2 results, but if you seriously care that much (and I doubt there are many people that do), then you probably shouldn't be here until you watch the games in question.
Because we are not talking about 7 billion people with thousands of different cultures with religious differences and countries backgrounds of wars of indepence and betrayals that goes back +100 years in time. How can you even compare this to world peace and say that it's easy.
On December 18 2011 12:19 LegendaryZ wrote:
What is there to "read up on"? I've read this argument over and over again for the past god knows how many years... Different people have massively different expectations. 48 hours might be fine for you, but what about the people out there that prefer 72 hours or 1 week? Aren't you screwing up their experience when just as you stated, it is easy enough not to? Should all matchups and results always be in spoilers regardless of how old they are since it wouldn't take that much effort and it would keep anyone from ever possibly being spoiled?
It's better than not having an window of spoilers free warning at all.
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Why are people in this thread continually arguing a fallacy.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition
One of the points of this thread was for people to discuss and maybe hopefully change rules that are here. Arguing that we should have no spoilers because it is a rule that has been implemented a long time ago have no actual argument. Either there is a good reason for the rule of no spoilers or there isn't.
Anyway, I am just displeased that because of the vocal minority the site doesn't have epic titles and cool quick recaps of the games (especially the games from last night). Having a GSL go to the 7th set in such a close match warrants headline news and content plastered across the front page, instead of the finalist interviews (instead of it just saying GSL MMA vs DRG interviews). The community doesn't want to be spoiled but what they are actually doing is covering up headline news for 24-48 hours. Just think if DRG and MMA were trending on twitter and some type of organization wanted to do a story or find out juicy details on it, they come to TL, see nothing about the finals except the interviews and are clueless to how big of a deal the finals were.
I dislike the people here who think just because TL has always done things a certain way that we should not change and have a more mainstream outlook. Other sports have articles or atleast exciting headlines with some type of wrap up to the games played that day...I think TL could do the same.
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