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On October 12 2011 17:12 Wroshe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2011 16:59 Velr wrote:
But well.. Some seeds are just so undeserved... It's actually hard to argue for anyone not to get a seed... Fully agree with you that the Pool Play seeds are messed up. People that had a very good result back in Dallas (especially iNcontroL comes to mind) are still living off that result. Now that is not MLG's fault because they didn't design the system with this in mind. In fact the system worked perfectly well until they started the GSL Exchange. Ever since that the top spots have been claimed and the most amount of ranking points you can get for ending 7th (which has pretty much ended up as the spot for the best foreigner) is 600. Good luck with 'taking a spot' as a mid tier player then when you're about 600 points behind (assuming a 200 point earner in Dallas, that is an 18th place finish) when the other guy is still earning points and the maximum you can get for an event realistically is 600. I have a few ideas on how they could have fixed this without screwing everyone over mid-season and I think I should buy Elly the ESPORTS Elephant a calculator.  I'll make a topic after Orlando as then I can also work the results from that tournament in which gives more data to work with. Conveniently it also gives me the time I need to make a good topic as I'm kind of short on that right now, got a hard exam on Friday.  Show nested quote +On October 12 2011 17:10 Wockets wrote:
iNcontroL still has enough points for pool play?
Yes, he has 1190 points and 800 of those come from MLG Dallas.
When players like DRG / MMA would attend now, perhaps iNcontrol wouldn't play pool play. It's mostly because people who did better then iNcontrol in the last few MLG's ain't there today. iNcontrol does what MLG wants: he shows up every time!
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On October 12 2011 17:34 Wroshe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2011 17:30 enzym wrote:
Good grief, 9 out of the 13 Koreans are Terran, only 3 Protoss and 1 Zerg. That isn't going to be fun. Let's hope that "we" can put up enough of a fight to kick them out early to make for more interesting finals. Well either that or hope they draw eachother early on in the open bracket. While it weaken tournament a bit from a matchup point of view it would be amazing if Polt, MarineKing and aLive would all be in the same quadrant of the bracket: that way only one of them would make pool play and only one would make it through the Lower Bracket. I don't think we can really look at Foreigners to beat a lot of those Terrans: who do we really have that can beat Korean Terrans of that level? I think the list ends after Ret, IdrA and Stephano as PvT is currently pretty messed up and I don't think that highly of foreigner TvT.
Agree completely..... they are gonna stomp everyone rofl...
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On October 12 2011 17:35 michielbrands wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2011 17:12 Wroshe wrote:On October 12 2011 16:59 Velr wrote:
But well.. Some seeds are just so undeserved... It's actually hard to argue for anyone not to get a seed... Fully agree with you that the Pool Play seeds are messed up. People that had a very good result back in Dallas (especially iNcontroL comes to mind) are still living off that result. Now that is not MLG's fault because they didn't design the system with this in mind. In fact the system worked perfectly well until they started the GSL Exchange. Ever since that the top spots have been claimed and the most amount of ranking points you can get for ending 7th (which has pretty much ended up as the spot for the best foreigner) is 600. Good luck with 'taking a spot' as a mid tier player then when you're about 600 points behind (assuming a 200 point earner in Dallas, that is an 18th place finish) when the other guy is still earning points and the maximum you can get for an event realistically is 600. I have a few ideas on how they could have fixed this without screwing everyone over mid-season and I think I should buy Elly the ESPORTS Elephant a calculator. I'll make a topic after Orlando as then I can also work the results from that tournament in which gives more data to work with. Conveniently it also gives me the time I need to make a good topic as I'm kind of short on that right now, got a hard exam on Friday. On October 12 2011 17:10 Wockets wrote:
iNcontroL still has enough points for pool play?
Yes, he has 1190 points and 800 of those come from MLG Dallas. When players like DRG / MMA would attend now, perhaps iNcontrol wouldn't play pool play. It's mostly because people who did better then iNcontrol in the last few MLG's ain't there today. iNcontrol does what MLG wants: he shows up every time!
That actually is not true, iNcontroL is currently 12th in the ranking so even if every person that ever attended an MLG would come he would still be in pool play.
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wow many of them can make it to Final like NP
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Funny is that they have only some terrans in pool play and so many others are in th Open Bracket
They come so or SO
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all korean round of 16 incoming? ^^
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The skill level in the Open bracket is just ridiculous this time. I have no idea who will make it out.
Hopefully MKP and Stephano don't knock each other out I want to see both of them on the championship bracket!
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It's like the open brackets players are very gooood this time, sad that many of them will not go thru
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On October 12 2011 17:47 lacho_u wrote:
@op you missed BOMBERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
No he didn't. Bomber isn't in the open bracket.
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On October 12 2011 17:47 lacho_u wrote:
@op you missed BOMBERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Bomber is in the pool play, and is listed in the OP's post?
Edit - I got ninja'd AND post changed while posting qq
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On October 12 2011 17:48 Grettin wrote:No he didn't. Bomber isn't in the open bracket.
Y my bad i noticed that
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Yea.
Sorry guys, I really don't see a non-Terran winning this tournament.
ALive? Puma? Boxer? Polt? MarineKing? Bomber?
4 Code S Terrans 1 Code S quality Terran and then Boxer.
Who do the other races have that compete with them?
Huk and Hongun are both GSL Code S protosses but I dont think they're at the same level as Polt Marineking or Bomber.
July? The God of War looked pretty sharp against Ryung last season can he manage to defeat these guys?
Stephano? MMA vouches for his TvZ but does he have what it takes to take on Terrans at this level?
MC? Will the Kratos Protoss regain his old powers and start crushing some faces or he is he still in the slump that landed him in Code B.
I don't know guys. Without DRG here to balance out the playing field I just don't see a non-Terran coming out on top of this tournament. But then again it is MLG so anything could happen.
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In an ideal situation, I would see the following 4 going into group play:
MKP
Sase
Stephano
Polt
But what will really happen? We will find out I guess ^^
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When will the schedules be out?
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The open bracket is incredibly harder than any pool could possibly be. And you win more by finishing last of your pool than 3rd in your quadrant of the open bracket. Regardless of whether IPL pools were important/useful or not, at least the final rankings made sense, while MLG's will not (and we know tat even before any match is played).
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I'm not sure if it has been mentioned but  HasuObs is coming too. He said it yesterday on mouztrap #2.
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MAAARINNNNNNNE KING PRIIIIIIIME HWAITING!
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Pool play is broken, they know this, they will fix it next year. That complainwagon has passed.
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hey how did tyler make it back into pool play? did he get out of the open bracket at the last MLG? Or was it because some people didnt show up?
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I hope SaSe is gonna crush through.
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EPT
