• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:49
CET 11:49
KST 19:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners5Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon!28$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship5[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win9
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon! TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win
Tourneys
- nuked - Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION
Strategy
PvZ map balance Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1555 users

PainUser & HD Casting Feedback Thread! - Page 22

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 46 Next All
HDstarcraft
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States577 Posts
October 14 2011 09:41 GMT
#421
THanks for all the feedback guys! We're listening!
YouTube.com/HDstarcraft
Yannosh
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium93 Posts
October 14 2011 09:44 GMT
#422
I don't like pain user, he's soooooooooo borrring T_T
rza
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada384 Posts
October 14 2011 09:46 GMT
#423
On October 14 2011 18:44 Yannosh wrote:
I don't like pain user, he's soooooooooo borrring T_T


true.
i like hd tho
Until my death, my goal's to stay alive.
Talros
Profile Joined August 2011
United States12 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 14:42:10
October 14 2011 14:39 GMT
#424
On October 11 2011 15:09 0neder wrote:
I'd like to give you some feedback you probably weren't expecting. I hope you guys, IPL, and your competitors take it to heart. I know I will give definite preference to whoever does.

1. TURN OFF PROGRESS STATS BARS.
Existing stuff is fine, income is fine, just don't tell me what's going to happen in the future. It completely kills the excitement by about 300%. Don't tell me how behind someone is either. That kills the game instantly. Don't show the worker/unit tab.

2. To be honest, I don't expect amazing game knowledge, and I don't even really want it. Don't try to predict what will happen, just hype up what IS happening. Don't show skepticism of a strategy, give a player the benefit of the doubt and hype up his guts to give each variable more importance by cheesing.

I enjoy your casting in terms of delivery and excitement. Sometimes it feels a little fake, but overall you guys are good. Just give me uncertainty and excitement over omniscience and declarations that a game's over so I might as well stop watching.


I completely disagree. I prefer the Progress Bar on because it lets me catch things faster than the observer does, and I feel like it doesn't hinder suspense or excitement at all.

EDIT: Wait, we're talking about the Production tab right? Just realized you called it a progress bar and I blindly copied it, lol.
latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
October 14 2011 15:55 GMT
#425
i like you HD but you have a tendency to make stuff up
OmyVi
Profile Joined February 2011
United States137 Posts
October 14 2011 16:00 GMT
#426
Been following you since the beta HD, keep doin your thing I'd say the best advice I could give is to not be so impulsive.

Haters gonna hate, these people don't realize how tough live casting really is.. regardless of your knowledge base.
| IdrA | DRG | Ret |
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 16:08:18
October 14 2011 16:07 GMT
#427
HD, try not to sound like you're constantly constipated. (i'm referring to the .ehhhhh i dunnos that you always throw in)

You could probably fix that by just being more confident in what you're saying, which might require a bit more experience actually playing the game as all 3 races
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
October 14 2011 16:16 GMT
#428
I think you (HD) can directly convert the league you're in into your casting level. And my guess is you're bronze.
99% of your jokes aren't funny, you lack basic knowledge and make wrong calls all the time and I personally can't stand your accent (accent is very important to me when listening to someone).
mr.reee
Profile Joined November 2010
121 Posts
October 15 2011 22:40 GMT
#429
On October 12 2011 10:19 Peterblue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 08:18 mr.reee wrote:
hd & painuser both rolled their eyes at me when I gave them a cheer passing by in Caesar's. Pretty lame.

I love how you were so offended by that you mention it in every thread that it might possibly relate to.


Posted it in one feedback thread, saw HD had his own feedback thread, posted it here. cool guy.
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
October 15 2011 22:44 GMT
#430
I love the casts. Just as a critique, i agree you guys prematurely get excited. Don't focus so much on making a scene, if u are, and just let the action happen. If games aren't explosive, it's still a great cast with good strategy discussion and banter.
The best Flash meme ever: http://imgur.com/zquoK
Takezou
Profile Joined October 2010
United States320 Posts
October 15 2011 22:44 GMT
#431
On October 15 2011 01:16 decaf wrote:
I think you (HD) can directly convert the league you're in into your casting level. And my guess is you're bronze.
99% of your jokes aren't funny, you lack basic knowledge and make wrong calls all the time and I personally can't stand your accent (accent is very important to me when listening to someone).



Well tbh you are just coming off as a douchebag. HD is masters and his accent is the same as most other American casters.
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
October 15 2011 22:45 GMT
#432
I enjoy you and painuser. Lots of humor, with some good knowledge in my book.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
October 15 2011 22:49 GMT
#433
I think Painusers game knowledge is great for his casting career. However, when he casts with CatsPajamas, i constantly feel as if painuser is trying to compete with him during casts. It adds an unpleasant feel to the cast.
TL+ Member
kasperklysner
Profile Joined October 2011
Denmark44 Posts
October 15 2011 23:00 GMT
#434
On October 15 2011 01:16 decaf wrote:
I think you (HD) can directly convert the league you're in into your casting level. And my guess is you're bronze.
99% of your jokes aren't funny, you lack basic knowledge and make wrong calls all the time and I personally can't stand your accent (accent is very important to me when listening to someone).

Great feedback Sir, i'm sure HD is willing to change his accent, perhaps even loose his sense of humour.

As for the first line you wrote, trying to say "I wish you'd spend more time looking into the different pro strategies in the different match ups", he already stated he's trying to put more time into reading and watching more high level play to understand the strategies, aswell as playing on the ladder to learn the odd common ones he doesn't know (I believe HD is masters? But he might be Diamond now, as he was inactive for a long time).


As for me, if I had to criticism anything, it'd be as mentioned above, to improve HD's knowledge strategies, but since he already said he's looking into that i'll have to say...
Keep up the good work! I'm loving the casting reactor!
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2630 Posts
October 15 2011 23:13 GMT
#435
ever since you departed with husky, i feel like you've been struggling to change yourself so that your more entertaining. in my honest opinion you should stick to yourself and do analysis based casting and find a cocaster who can fill in that role for you. (i havent watched painuser much so i cant tell).
Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1! Oliveira China Represent!
TheKK
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada164 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 23:29:47
October 15 2011 23:28 GMT
#436
The feeling I get from HD is that he lacks wit and convincing enthusiasm to be an enjoyable caster for live events. The way he leads in into asking for cheers from the crowd is often awkward instead of fluid, witty and genuine looking. I hope he works on that. His game knowledge is lacking but I feel like he should focus on being a good caster for play-by-play because he has a good voice and there is a co-caster for a reason. He should take a role he can do well and play it.
sephius
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom200 Posts
October 15 2011 23:33 GMT
#437
You're both very likable. I've always enjoyed your casts but sometimes your jokes, HD in particular, can be a little uncomfortable to sit though But that may be part of the charm, I don't know.
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
October 16 2011 00:27 GMT
#438
HD: you have really good analysis in ZvX matchups. I really think you need to maybe ladder or study some games as the other 2 races to diversify your knowledge. Your understanding of zerg is great but I really think if you want to elevate your casting you should learn T and P.
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
October 16 2011 02:14 GMT
#439
Hey i dont know if you (HD and PU) still reading this thread, but i wanted to say one more additional thing to mr. HD
i had very harsh critizsm but here is an advice...
get in contact with husky and ask him how he managed to get better so fast...i very disliked husky since beta, because he was not good at the same things you are, but since the last 2 MLG (including ongoing orlando) he improved so greatly and i dont know how. he really impresses me now and you clearly can see how he tried hard to improve. if you take the same way he did, you can be in good shape too.....
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Stijx
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 02:29:30
October 16 2011 02:21 GMT
#440
What I don't like about your casting HD, isn't that you lack knowledge, a lot of casters do and do fine, it's that you don't seem to realize it. You kind of make things up, or make impulsive statements that aren't really based on anything... It's like you're not playing the role you're cut out for. Especially alongside Painuser who does have an excellent understanding.
Now, if you were to keep working on your game knowledge and get it up to a level where you can make some of your statements correct, then you'd be a great caster.
Keep it up, you're doing the right things to improve.

edit: and seriously guys, this isn't the "tell HD that he sucks" thread... this is a thread where you leave constructive feedback to help someone improve. Giving him advice will ultimately improve YOUR viewing experience.
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 46 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 11m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 739
BeSt 380
Stork 290
Larva 254
Mini 236
Light 165
Leta 158
JYJ150
PianO 125
EffOrt 122
[ Show more ]
Aegong 111
sSak 99
Pusan 95
Barracks 89
Sharp 45
soO 41
Rush 39
Backho 34
sorry 20
yabsab 19
NotJumperer 15
scan(afreeca) 14
Icarus 11
Bale 11
Noble 9
Terrorterran 9
HiyA 8
Dota 2
Gorgc6244
KheZu206
XcaliburYe174
League of Legends
JimRising 385
Reynor152
Counter-Strike
fl0m1888
zeus106
taco 102
Other Games
summit1g16166
singsing1256
ceh9513
crisheroes213
Sick198
Happy174
XaKoH 99
NeuroSwarm49
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick523
Counter-Strike
PGL122
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 35
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos4155
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 11m
LAN Event
4h 11m
Lambo vs Harstem
FuturE vs Maplez
Scarlett vs FoxeR
Gerald vs Mixu
Zoun vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
ByuN vs TBD
TriGGeR vs TBD
Korean StarCraft League
16h 11m
CranKy Ducklings
23h 11m
LAN Event
1d 4h
IPSL
1d 7h
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
BSL 21
1d 9h
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs Sterling
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
Replay Cast
1d 12h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 23h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
LAN Event
2 days
IPSL
2 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
2 days
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.