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On September 28 2011 05:51 zaii wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 05:49 ImmortalTofu wrote:On September 28 2011 05:46 zaii wrote:On September 28 2011 05:43 ImmortalTofu wrote:
I have to admit... Kiwi puma is probably be fairly one-sided... . in Kiwi's favor? You did watch last MLG when they faced off on the main stage? There is a build that's been developed since then. It kinda has 3 1's in it. Puma DEMOLISHED MC with it, who's still miles above Kiwi. Puma still won that set anyway, and the only other time he's lost a series to P as far as I can remember is against Mana at IEM where he was sick and underestimated him. there was a recent build that just countered 1-1-1, which was being done by MVP..... and the new patch....
Check the edit... The guy has a 70+% TvP winrate in both Korean and International TLPD, most from even before 111 was developed from his excellent ghost use...
Additionally, the build was new, and presumably caught MVP off guard, who knows if a response will be developed in the next two weeks? Not to say that it has been, but you can't say that a new build that did well against ONE 111 is a surefire counter. Puma is above kiwi in skill level most likely anyway, making the point moot.
As for the patch, it delayed the build by about 10 seconds and gave us one more range on Immortal, which hasn't been proven by anyone yet to make a huge impact on holding the push.
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Sucks for DRG and Socke but good for Team Liquid :D
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On September 28 2011 05:52 ImmortalTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 05:51 zaii wrote:On September 28 2011 05:49 ImmortalTofu wrote:On September 28 2011 05:46 zaii wrote:On September 28 2011 05:43 ImmortalTofu wrote:
I have to admit... Kiwi puma is probably be fairly one-sided... . in Kiwi's favor? You did watch last MLG when they faced off on the main stage? There is a build that's been developed since then. It kinda has 3 1's in it. Puma DEMOLISHED MC with it, who's still miles above Kiwi. Puma still won that set anyway, and the only other time he's lost a series to P as far as I can remember is against Mana at IEM where he was sick and underestimated him. there was a recent build that just countered 1-1-1, which was being done by MVP..... and the new patch.... Check the edit... The guy has a 70+% TvP winrate in both Korean and International TLPD, most from even before 111 was developed from his excellent ghost use... Additionally, the build was new, and presumably caught MVP off guard, who knows if a response will be developed in the next two weeks? Not to say that it has been, but you can't say that a new build that did well against ONE 111 is a surefire counter. Puma is above kiwi in skill level most likely anyway, making the point moot. As for the patch, it delayed the build by about 10 seconds and gave us one more range on Immortal, which hasn't been proven by anyone yet to make a huge impact on holding the push.
Kiwi nearly beat Puma last MLG and with the patch going in his favor, He should have a good chance.
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On September 28 2011 05:56 zaii wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 05:52 ImmortalTofu wrote:On September 28 2011 05:51 zaii wrote:On September 28 2011 05:49 ImmortalTofu wrote:On September 28 2011 05:46 zaii wrote:On September 28 2011 05:43 ImmortalTofu wrote:
I have to admit... Kiwi puma is probably be fairly one-sided... . in Kiwi's favor? You did watch last MLG when they faced off on the main stage? There is a build that's been developed since then. It kinda has 3 1's in it. Puma DEMOLISHED MC with it, who's still miles above Kiwi. Puma still won that set anyway, and the only other time he's lost a series to P as far as I can remember is against Mana at IEM where he was sick and underestimated him. there was a recent build that just countered 1-1-1, which was being done by MVP..... and the new patch.... Check the edit... The guy has a 70+% TvP winrate in both Korean and International TLPD, most from even before 111 was developed from his excellent ghost use... Additionally, the build was new, and presumably caught MVP off guard, who knows if a response will be developed in the next two weeks? Not to say that it has been, but you can't say that a new build that did well against ONE 111 is a surefire counter. Puma is above kiwi in skill level most likely anyway, making the point moot. As for the patch, it delayed the build by about 10 seconds and gave us one more range on Immortal, which hasn't been proven by anyone yet to make a huge impact on holding the push. Kiwi nearly beat Puma last MLG and with the patch going in his favor, He should have a good chance.
May I point out that that was AFTER he had slogged through Open Bracket and dealing with jetlag. Now that he lives in NA with EG, and will start in pools, I give him a MUCH better chance...
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dang open bracket just got quite a bit easier. =p
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On September 28 2011 05:59 ImmortalTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 05:56 zaii wrote:On September 28 2011 05:52 ImmortalTofu wrote:On September 28 2011 05:51 zaii wrote:On September 28 2011 05:49 ImmortalTofu wrote:On September 28 2011 05:46 zaii wrote:On September 28 2011 05:43 ImmortalTofu wrote:
I have to admit... Kiwi puma is probably be fairly one-sided... . in Kiwi's favor? You did watch last MLG when they faced off on the main stage? There is a build that's been developed since then. It kinda has 3 1's in it. Puma DEMOLISHED MC with it, who's still miles above Kiwi. Puma still won that set anyway, and the only other time he's lost a series to P as far as I can remember is against Mana at IEM where he was sick and underestimated him. there was a recent build that just countered 1-1-1, which was being done by MVP..... and the new patch.... Check the edit... The guy has a 70+% TvP winrate in both Korean and International TLPD, most from even before 111 was developed from his excellent ghost use... Additionally, the build was new, and presumably caught MVP off guard, who knows if a response will be developed in the next two weeks? Not to say that it has been, but you can't say that a new build that did well against ONE 111 is a surefire counter. Puma is above kiwi in skill level most likely anyway, making the point moot. As for the patch, it delayed the build by about 10 seconds and gave us one more range on Immortal, which hasn't been proven by anyone yet to make a huge impact on holding the push. Kiwi nearly beat Puma last MLG and with the patch going in his favor, He should have a good chance. May I point out that that was AFTER he had slogged through Open Bracket and dealing with jetlag. Now that he lives in NA with EG, and will start in pools, I give him a MUCH better chance...
eh wasn't he already living at the EG house before Raleigh? and atm his living in Korea, He left the EG house a while back.
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I dislike down time after each match, so Drewbie vs Idra is not on my list of matches to watch... we all know what is going to happen already, why bother broadcasting it
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Holy PvP....
I really want to see another Kiwikaki vs Puma. :D
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On September 28 2011 06:01 zaii wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 05:59 ImmortalTofu wrote:On September 28 2011 05:56 zaii wrote:On September 28 2011 05:52 ImmortalTofu wrote:On September 28 2011 05:51 zaii wrote:On September 28 2011 05:49 ImmortalTofu wrote:On September 28 2011 05:46 zaii wrote:On September 28 2011 05:43 ImmortalTofu wrote:
I have to admit... Kiwi puma is probably be fairly one-sided... . in Kiwi's favor? You did watch last MLG when they faced off on the main stage? There is a build that's been developed since then. It kinda has 3 1's in it. Puma DEMOLISHED MC with it, who's still miles above Kiwi. Puma still won that set anyway, and the only other time he's lost a series to P as far as I can remember is against Mana at IEM where he was sick and underestimated him. there was a recent build that just countered 1-1-1, which was being done by MVP..... and the new patch.... Check the edit... The guy has a 70+% TvP winrate in both Korean and International TLPD, most from even before 111 was developed from his excellent ghost use... Additionally, the build was new, and presumably caught MVP off guard, who knows if a response will be developed in the next two weeks? Not to say that it has been, but you can't say that a new build that did well against ONE 111 is a surefire counter. Puma is above kiwi in skill level most likely anyway, making the point moot. As for the patch, it delayed the build by about 10 seconds and gave us one more range on Immortal, which hasn't been proven by anyone yet to make a huge impact on holding the push. Kiwi nearly beat Puma last MLG and with the patch going in his favor, He should have a good chance. May I point out that that was AFTER he had slogged through Open Bracket and dealing with jetlag. Now that he lives in NA with EG, and will start in pools, I give him a MUCH better chance... eh wasn't he already living at the EG house before Raleigh? and atm his living in Korea, He left the EG house a while back.
I'm sorry, I guess I was misinformed... That probably makes this match much closer than I originally believed then. I wish both players luck! (I still think Hongun Ret would be a much more interesting MU, but w.e XD)
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On September 28 2011 03:59 killerdog wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 03:55 Mcleod21 wrote:
Mc vs Hero.
President vs Candidate
who will win the election? I think mc was impeached when he left code S
And then he resigned when he fell from Code A
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I feel like pool D is going to be really weird, as MC, Huk and Hero have all lived together, and Huk, Hero and Tyler have all been on team liquid (though I think Hero and Huk have not been on team liquid at the same time). I feel like they probably know each other really well, and it's PvP, so... some strange stuff is going to happen, I think.
Should be good!
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This guy summed up on how I feel about the whole thing :
James Berthoty · Florida State University
This is terrible, I blindly voted Huk vs. Tyler because of the epicness, but then saw that the next match was the rivalry that is Idra vs. Drewbie. Stream both of them split screen. Stream inside a stream etc. etc.
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On September 28 2011 06:17 MCDayC wrote:
Why were they the ones invited? Was it because of ranks points, or otherwise?
...might wanna read the MLG posts again.... then a third time to make sure.
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DRG's got his Code S spot, no wonder he decided to pass. This makes for a very interesting group.
July will have practice much easier since he needs to focuss primarily in ZvP. He's my pick for 1st in group D.
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People seriously voted for MC and Hero over a Boxer game? What is the matter with you people?
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looks like we're going to be seeing quite a bit of protoss on Friday. This will make up for the lack of it in GSL =D
been starving for protoss
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Really sad that DRG and Socke couldn't be there, but Hero and Tyler making it into the pools is great! Go Teamliquid!
I voted for Idra vs Drewbie, Puma vs Kiwikaki, and Hero vs MC. They should all hopefully produce interesting games, if not just story lines.
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wow sucks when 2/3 of the games you vote for are PvP just cos you cant stand watching bad players like drewbie/haypro/machine
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EPT
