For the first time ever, players of Blizzard Entertainment's popular real-time strategy game StarCraft® II: Wings of Liberty™ will come from around the world to join an all-star Halo: Reach line-up at the next Red Bull LAN in Santa Monica, California from September 30 - October 2.
Twelve of the world’s best StarCraft II players (four from each of the game’s races -- terran, protoss, and zerg) will join three of the league’s most dominant Halo: Reach teams in one of competitive gaming’s most sought-after training programs. For 10 hours each day over three days, some of the sharpest minds and fastest fingers in the world will gather at an innovative training facility developed by Red Bull to broaden their skills and prepare for their upcoming professional gaming competitions.
While the Red Bull LAN is closed to spectators, the event will be streamed live each night for six hours. Fans of eSports competition in both StarCraft II and Halo: Reach will be able to get an up close and personal view of their favorite gamers’ progress throughout this extensive training weekend with individual point-of-view options for each participating player.
Broadcast on RedBullUSA.com/LAN and Twitch.tv/redbullgaming, the live show will be hosted by none other than Sean “Day9” Plott, a well-known StarCraft II commentator, and Danish “Dmaq” Maqbool for Halo: Reach commentary.
Global eSports staple StarCraft II, the fastest-selling strategy game of all time, challenges PC gamers to hone both their minds and their reaction times to plan and execute devastating attacks while also fending off their opponent's assaults. Multiplayer takes place on Blizzard Entertainment’s popular online gaming network, Battle.net®.
Attending the Red Bull LAN will be Choi “Bomber” Ji Sung, Kevin “QXC” Riley, and Sascha “Goody” Lupp for the terrans; Steven “Destiny” Bonnell, Joseph “Ret” de Kroon, Paul-David “Slush” Page, and Shawn “Sheth” Simon for the zerg swarm; and Aleksey “White-rA” Krupnuk, Tyler “Tyler” Wasieleski, Giacomo “Socke” Thus, and Chad “Minigun” Jones for the protoss.
Anyways the RBLAN is something RedBull sets up for their Halo teams to prepare for MLG's, It's amazing that both SC2 and Halo players will be there together practicing for upcoming MLG Orlando.
On September 24 2011 09:42 Noam wrote: Well this one is going to be unique. No word on a prize pool it seems, but whoever picked this lineup sure has something quirky planned.
This is a LAN that RedBull setup to prepare for MLG.
Pretty good mix of players with lots of fan favourites and I am impressed they managed to get a korean in there as well. It will be a competition between bomber thorzain and ret for first prize and I am favouring bomber atm.
On September 24 2011 10:00 Thrill wrote: Rbull is the deepest pocket there is as far as investment into niche spots go so i'm hoping this is indicative of a bright future.
Yea, RedBull has been doing these LANs mainly for their Halo team for the past 2-3 year before an MLG. Now that they are including SC2 players too. I can see these LANs happen more often.
I don't think Goody has the stamina to rip up the open bracket of MLG if he goes.. Especially if he gets TvT's or ZvT's.. 3 hour long bo3's...
But no EG is kinda suprising.. kinda not at the same time as well.. I mean who has good results from EG? Maybe Puma, DeMuslim and HuK? But they're sponsored by a rival energy drink so yeah.. xD
On September 24 2011 10:17 MonkSEA wrote: I don't think Goody has the stamina to rip up the open bracket if he gets TvT's or ZvT's.. 3 hour long bo3's...
This is just a training program and not a tournament, right? That's what I was thinking until I read all of the comments.
If that's what it is, a training program, I hope Bomber speaks English well enough to communicate with the other guys or he might feel rather secluded.
On September 24 2011 10:19 Najda wrote: This is just a training program and not a tournament, right? That's what I was thinking until I read all of the comments.
If that's what it is, a training program, I hope Bomber speaks English well enough to communicate with the other guys or he might feel rather secluded.
yes Redbull Lan is mainly for training, but Won;t be surprised if Day9 hosts a tournament for the players.
On September 24 2011 10:17 MonkSEA wrote: I don't think Goody has the stamina to rip up the open bracket of MLG if he goes.. Especially if he gets TvT's or ZvT's.. 3 hour long bo3's...
But no EG is kinda suprising.. kinda not at the same time as well.. I mean who has good results from EG? Maybe Puma, DeMuslim and HuK? But they're sponsored by a rival energy drink so yeah.. xD
If we are talking about results then Destiny shouldn´t have been invited as much as I love the guy he really looks out of place there.
people tend to forget that bomber's tvt is sloppy as FUCK and he wins because his macro is pretty much top1world. someone hyper-aggressive like qxc or someone who controls engagements better and makes less mistakes like thorzain could take him out.
but no Z or P here has a prayer's worth of a chance vs bomber lawl.
On September 24 2011 10:17 MonkSEA wrote: I don't think Goody has the stamina to rip up the open bracket if he gets TvT's or ZvT's.. 3 hour long bo3's...
also mess up the entire MLG schedule..
Lmfao, Goody in the MLG open bracket... not a good idea.
On September 24 2011 10:00 Thrill wrote: Rbull is the deepest pocket there is as far as investment into niche spots go so i'm hoping this is indicative of a bright future.
Yea, RedBull has been doing these LANs mainly for their Halo team for the past 2-3 year before an MLG. Now that they are including SC2 players too. I can see these LANs happen more often.
I've seen some tweets from their redbullgaming account about other sc2 stuff going on. Seems like they've been following it for awhile so hopefully this is good. Maybe more LANS, regular monthly/seasonal lan/tournament, or possibly a full-time team sponsored by Red Bull. EG bringing in Monster probably showed a lot to the energy drink competition.
Just glad to see another LAN being done by a top notch company! Awesome to see Red Bull keep it up!
Hm, only 3 terrans announced yet? Or will there only be 3 terrans (it states that it will be 4 though :O).
Edit: I guess I should read before posting, seems like Thorzain was announced but then got withdrawed. I'm glad I didn't catch this topic when he was still in it, because then I would've been mighty dissapointed, now it's more like "why?!! " else it would've been more like "WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!?!?!".
Wow, how did they pick their lineup? It's pretty absurd how big the skill gap is between some of those players and the fact that people who can't even make seeded spots in MLG are invited is mindblowing considering they invited a Code S player.
On September 24 2011 11:18 hmunkey wrote: Wow, how did they pick their lineup? It's pretty absurd how big the skill gap is between some of those players and the fact that people who can't even make seeded spots in MLG are invited is mindblowing considering they invited a Code S player.
Didn't Thorzain say he was only going to the MLG Nationals? that could be the reason why he withdrew. His not planning to attend Orlando.
I worked for Red Bull last year. I brought cases to the Day 9 release event and the Green Forest LAN. At the time, that was all the support I could get out of them for SC2.
Around this time last year they had a similar LAN with just the Halo guys, and invited the employees to come check it out. I spent half of my time talking with Walshy about playing zerg, and the other half convincing the head of the department to add Starcraft 2 to the next one. Glad to see the idea stuck around, even if I didn't.
Meh just when I'm outta town Oh well sick lan anyways. QXC, Tyler, Socke, White-ra and Walshy (assuming he is still sponsored by red bull like he has been for the past 5 years) fighting!!!
I'm not sure I understand, is there a prizepool for that? Because if it's for training purposes only I hilghly doubt that bomber will get better practice against destiny tyler and goody than in the startale teamhouse ^^. edit: lol if you read the link of the OP until the end you have this:
At the Santa Monica stop of the Red Bull LAN, players will be pushed to their physical and mental limits while developing new approaches to these complex games, including heart rate monitoring, biofeedback (a treatment technique where people are trained to improve their health by using signals from their own bodies), physical therapy/training and a thermo-regulated, soundproof booth for stress testing.
Don't really know what to expect from this to be honest ^^
On September 24 2011 20:22 Jetaap wrote: I'm not sure I understand, is there a prizepool for that? Because if it's for training purposes only I hilghly doubt that bomber will get better practice against destiny tyler and goody than in the startale teamhouse ^^. edit: lol if you read the link of the OP until the end you have this:
At the Santa Monica stop of the Red Bull LAN, players will be pushed to their physical and mental limits while developing new approaches to these complex games, including heart rate monitoring, biofeedback (a treatment technique where people are trained to improve their health by using signals from their own bodies), physical therapy/training and a thermo-regulated, soundproof booth for stress testing.
Don't really know what to expect from this to be honest ^^
Honestly I highly doubt any of them would go if there wasn't a prize pool.. there has to be a prize pool.
On September 24 2011 20:22 Jetaap wrote: I'm not sure I understand, is there a prizepool for that? Because if it's for training purposes only I hilghly doubt that bomber will get better practice against destiny tyler and goody than in the startale teamhouse ^^. edit: lol if you read the link of the OP until the end you have this:
At the Santa Monica stop of the Red Bull LAN, players will be pushed to their physical and mental limits while developing new approaches to these complex games, including heart rate monitoring, biofeedback (a treatment technique where people are trained to improve their health by using signals from their own bodies), physical therapy/training and a thermo-regulated, soundproof booth for stress testing.
Don't really know what to expect from this to be honest ^^
Honestly I highly doubt any of them would go if there wasn't a prize pool.. there has to be a prize pool.
why would there be a prize pool when RedBull is just giving them a training facility to get ready for the upcoming tournaments IPL/MLG?
On September 24 2011 22:13 Odal wrote: I like how playing 10 hours a day is super intense for halo players. Bomber is going to just destroy everything.
I'm not going to sit here and say Destiny is korean pro-gamer good, but for everyone who right away counts him as "not fitting" for this is pretty much wrong. He's proven to take games off the best online and offline but he's lacking consistency big time.
He was invited to compete in the group stages of the GeForce Pro/Am tournament. There, he defeated Korean players Bomber 2-1 and Ace 2-0, but lost to SjoW, ThisIsJimmy, and ViBe. Not to take anything off SjoW, ThisIsJimmy or ViBe but they are without a doubt, worse than Bomber and Ace.
It might be because of his infestor build, it might not. I don't care I'm just happy people who aren't sponsored by big team but are still good are attending nice events like this.
On September 24 2011 23:09 wezzon wrote: I'm not going to sit here and say Destiny is korean pro-gamer good, but for everyone who right away counts him as "not fitting" for this is pretty much wrong. He's proven to take games off the best online and offline but he's lacking consistency big time.
He was invited to compete in the group stages of the GeForce Pro/Am tournament. There, he defeated Korean players Bomber 2-1 and Ace 2-0, but lost to SjoW, ThisIsJimmy, and ViBe. Not to take anything off SjoW, ThisIsJimmy or ViBe but they are without a doubt, worse than Bomber and Ace.
It might be because of his infestor build, it might not. I don't care I'm just happy people who aren't sponsored by big team but are still good are attending nice events like this.
All day with CJ!
Well, I don´t think anyone is saying that Destiny is bad, as you said he has taken games off great players. But tbh consistency is one of the characteristics of outstanding players, but yeah, I think what people don´t like is players being invited more due to popularity than results, which is fine too
people need to read better, this is a training camp.There're probably practice games againts each other. But it's not a tourament, there's no winners, there's no prizes. Just a bunch of guys getting together to train and stream for people to see.
Awesome stuff! Sad it's closed to spectators, that's only 2 hours away from me. I'll definitely be watching the stream, especially the stuff with qxc and Socke!
On September 24 2011 23:09 wezzon wrote: I'm not going to sit here and say Destiny is korean pro-gamer good, but for everyone who right away counts him as "not fitting" for this is pretty much wrong. He's proven to take games off the best online and offline but he's lacking consistency big time.
AND 4 of the invitees are his former teammates. How could he not fit in?
Also, out of curiosity, is Red Bull paying for flights/hotel?
Interesting, pretty last-minute announcement, but it seems cool. It's interesting that this is marketed as a training session rather than a tournament-- I can't think of a precedent, but my scene memory doesn't go back that far.
Not sure how much the players are getting paid (if they're getting paid?) or whether the overall format will be useful to the players or not. Definitely interesting though.
I'm not really sure why starcraft is included in this tbh. Halo teams need LAN practice since LAN plays much differently from xbox live, but either way SC players will be playing over b.net. I feel like they just wanted to include starcraft in an event that's only really needed for halo. Unless they're just going to run a tournament.
On September 28 2011 14:25 Kovaz wrote: I'm not really sure why starcraft is included in this tbh. Halo teams need LAN practice since LAN plays much differently from xbox live, but either way SC players will be playing over b.net. I feel like they just wanted to include starcraft in an event that's only really needed for halo. Unless they're just going to run a tournament.
This is super sick. I had no word form twitter that there would be sc2 there was well. They are really trying to do a good job promoting esports. We should give them that, because this lineup is sick
It's not a tournament or anything it's just a LAN for them to practice hardcore. No prize pool, no winning or losers.
Why wouldn't Redbull want to expand their games? This is basically a starcraft2 training house. Just like houses in korea, Eg house and what not. It just won't be long term.
This was already weird and it's getting weirder by the minute, PokeBunny will likely replace Thorzain, but is Bomber still going to go with his match with MVP so close? Is socke definitely confirmed not to be going? I know he's not going to MLG Orlando but this isn't the same.
I find it pretty funny that so many people post answers to this thread without having read the OP :D This is obviously meant for publicity mainly and only secondly for training, I mean why would Bomber go there? Definitely not for training. That said, for the other players this could be an excellent opportunity to train against themselves and against Bomber. I will tune in!
On September 24 2011 09:58 Linwelin wrote: Chad Jones at a lan?? No way
My first thoughts too!
Anyways I'm really looking forward to this, the player line up looks amazing and the production will be incredible, judging from the Halo videos I just watched in the OP link.
Might be more excited for this then some other big tournaments!
Alright So there is supposed to be 12 players (4 from each of the races.) There are only 3 terrans listed and 4 zergs and 4 toss. Whos the only other name listed? Day9.
Day9 is playing terran and starting his progaming career at mlg orlando.
It's not really a compitition it's a practice lan. For the people wondering why there isn't eg is probably not only because of their monster sponsership but as well as the have a team house to practice in all the time so they don't need to go to a practice lan if they already can do that.
I doubt most of the people here read the whole thread since it even says it's just a practice lan and that they'll be playnig 10 hours a day to practice for their up and coming professional game(mlg)..so why even ask about a prize pool?
Pretty sick but whats with the shitty ass Destiny, Slush, Minigun. they will get fucked up 1st round? might as well have got better players then those jack offs
This isn't a tournament at all even though it's called a LAN. It's more like a bootcamp like what EG did in Arizona. Everybody is going there to train, and as Tyler, as well as Day9, said on State of the Game, there will be some footage released, not 100% but it should provide some very interesting results. Just to restate, it is NOT a tournament, it's a boot camp.
Even though it's only a LAN it's a great chance for the players to practice against a terran as good as Bomber, and also anyone who puts in results vs Bomber will make some serious waves.
I'll believe bomber will be there when I see it, cause it seems physically impossible for him to be there. He can't play 10 hours a day until oct 2nd, when he has to play mvp in gsl on oct 4th. Also keep in mind Korea is 16 hours ahead of pst. Unless he's like going to arrive back in korea on the day he has to play mvp and play him with like no sleep.
On September 30 2011 01:31 Mayd wrote: If it's just a boot camp, what is Bomber doing there? Practising with foreigners when he has whole korean team to practise with?
I would assume he's going for exposure, as well as perhaps to get more foreign sponsors interested in Korean teams.
On September 30 2011 01:31 Mayd wrote: If it's just a boot camp, what is Bomber doing there? Practising with foreigners when he has whole korean team to practise with?
I would assume he's going for exposure, as well as perhaps to get more foreign sponsors interested in Korean teams.
His round of 16 match is on 4th Oct. Seeing how most Koreans do not want to go to foreign events if they have critical Code S matches to play soon; it is kind of weird.
On September 30 2011 01:31 Mayd wrote: If it's just a boot camp, what is Bomber doing there? Practising with foreigners when he has whole korean team to practise with?
I would assume he's going for exposure, as well as perhaps to get more foreign sponsors interested in Korean teams.
His round of 16 match is on 4th Oct. Seeing how most Koreans do not want to go to foreign events if they have critical Code S matches to play soon; it is kind of weird.
This is a marketing gimmick geared towards giving insight to the public on the programer's training. As with other things imported from Halo, it doesn't make much sense with SC2 and baffles me why they didn't brought over an entire team (preferably EU as they have been nearly absent from MLG) instead of a few unrelated players.
On September 30 2011 01:54 Soap wrote: This is a marketing gimmick geared towards giving insight to the public on the programer's training. As with other things imported from Halo, it doesn't make much sense with SC2 and baffles me why they didn't brought over an entire team (preferably EU as they have been nearly absent from MLG) instead of a few unrelated players.
One might say that they invited a bunch of fan favorites.
Also, what would be the point of bringing players from a single team over? I would think that if they really wanted to boot camp with each other, they could do it in a way that is more convenient than having to fly to a different country (or continent).
On September 30 2011 01:21 GtBranflakes wrote: Pretty sick but whats with the shitty ass Destiny, Slush, Minigun. they will get fucked up 1st round? might as well have got better players then those jack offs
Destiny maybe but Minigun and slush? Hell no minigun is extremely solid and can take games of many people along with slush who is always advancing far in MLG events unnoticed.
On September 30 2011 01:21 GtBranflakes wrote: Pretty sick but whats with the shitty ass Destiny, Slush, Minigun. they will get fucked up 1st round? might as well have got better players then those jack offs
Destiny maybe but Minigun and slush? Hell no minigun is extremely solid and can take games of many people along with slush who is always advancing far in MLG events unnoticed.
I'm pretty sure that this isn't a competition, just a place for the players to train before MLG.
On September 30 2011 02:01 Xcobidoo wrote: If Bomber plays Goody in the first round he might just be too tired to win it all That's the only hope for the foreigners though...
This is actually pretty freaking sweet. I didn't really understand it by just going to their website but I am DEFINITELY going to tune in and watch this. I can't wait.
and lol Bomber? so random, but awesome for some of these EU/NA players
Isn't this just a training camp where the line up can train and prepare for the next mlg? Or like everyone else is stating will this have a tournament element as well? The OP just said that it is a training camp for 10hours a day for 3days .
On September 30 2011 01:54 Soap wrote: This is a marketing gimmick geared towards giving insight to the public on the programer's training. As with other things imported from Halo, it doesn't make much sense with SC2 and baffles me why they didn't brought over an entire team (preferably EU as they have been nearly absent from MLG) instead of a few unrelated players.
One might say that they invited a bunch of fan favorites.
Also, what would be the point of bringing players from a single team over? I would think that if they really wanted to boot camp with each other, they could do it in a way that is more convenient than having to fly to a different country (or continent).
Because training makes more sense between people that actually know each other and have a reason to see them succeed. As it is may be just Day9 casting games between them, which barely qualifies as practice.
Either way I doubt Bomber is in a hurry to fly a whole day to train with Destiny on not quite LAN. Of course they are being paid to attend.
Sorry if this has been mentioned or not, but I live like 30ish mins from Santa Monica, can people show up to this place in Santa Monica to spectate, or is it closed to the public?
Edit: oops, read the OP that it's closed to spectators =(
On September 24 2011 09:50 Torte de Lini wrote: No EG at all?
No way EG would be allowed to go to this event.
Now we await the announcement of the Monster Energy LAN.
SirScoots commented on that on yesterdays LO3. He said if they would invite EG players, well he wasnt enterily sure. The thing is, they would basically never invite EG Players, so he didnt really think about it
if the last terran to be announced is such a huge name.. it probably is slayersboxer... since they wouldn't wait to announce a foreign terran.. thats no big deal
On September 30 2011 04:06 RusHXceL wrote: Huk and Idra should go. wtf redbull go get 'em
Conflict of interest 1. being they are sponsered by monster and 2. they have there own training facility to practice in before the tournament, this protects there builds they may preparing and allows a media free enviroment.
The original poster needs to clearly define that this is not a tournament but a training ground to practice at before orlando.3
On September 30 2011 04:12 Trict wrote: The original poster needs to clearly define that this is not a tournament but a training ground to practice at before orlando.3
Why would bomber go to this if it's just a training camp? Wouldn't staying in korea be better? I mean he has to play MVP in the RO16 GSL in just a few days (Oct 4th) so I just do not understand why he would go to this "event".
On September 30 2011 04:42 Lunares wrote: Why would bomber go to this if it's just a training camp? Wouldn't staying in korea be better? I mean he has to play MVP in the RO16 GSL in just a few days (Oct 4th) so I just do not understand why he would go to this "event".
Highly doubtful bomber will be there. Let's just say it ends oct 2nd 8pm PST as just a guess. That makes it oct 3rd 12pm KST, given korea is 16 hours ahead of PST. He needs to play MVP oct 4th 6:10pm KST. That gives bomber roughly 30 hours to get back in time to play MVP. While it may be doable, that's a super tight schedule and bomber would be playing MVP jetlagged and with like no sleep.
On September 30 2011 04:12 Trict wrote: The original poster needs to clearly define that this is not a tournament but a training ground to practice at before orlando.3
it was, but people don't read
Im talking bold letters in like 40 font because reading comprehension is hard.
This is super exciting i can't wait to see it. Bomber vs Goody will really show the koreans what a spoon terran is. And Destiny is the only foreign player who has beaten Bomber is a best of series. And of course qxc, Sheth, and Chad motherfucking Jones! ZOMG
One korean to rule the all.. Expect Bomber to win and if not him, then definately ret! <3 EDIT: Didn't finish reading~ immediately looked at player list and thought tournament my bad TT;; This is awesome! :D
AWESOME. Great to see that RedBull is getting into SC2 Very good line up too, should have some great games! Anyone know if there will be vods or restream?
Why does everyone seem to think this has a prize pool? it clearly states this is a training program. it allows several players to come together in a LAN enviroment to talk explore the game and play with other high quaility gamers.
EG has no reason to attend something like this cause they live in a LAN enviroment.
omg chad mother******* jones is attending. in all seriousness i hope that the stream can show us players at home a lot of cool builds and ways to practice
This should help a lot of them practice up for the open bracket. My guess is along with added fans, Bomber will get to play against a lot of NA/EU styles he might not normally face but would at MLG. (Not that he needs the extra help but why not?)
On September 30 2011 16:51 mTw|NarutO wrote: didn't read all of the thread, but is Socke still attending? He's not attending MLG Orlando.. so that would be a bit weird?!
On September 30 2011 16:51 mTw|NarutO wrote: didn't read all of the thread, but is Socke still attending? He's not attending MLG Orlando.. so that would be a bit weird?!
Perhaps he's playing IPL.
In the last German Scenecast Socke stated he will be attending IPL 3.
On September 30 2011 13:24 theBizness wrote: How do people still think this is a tournament? Interesting collection of players, can't hurt.
Been wondering that too. Goes to show how bad people are at reading before posting/reacting, or just in general :\ On a more positive note: Pretty good to see RB get involved and it's a nice intiative. Do the attending players only play each other or will they go on ladder or play off-site players as well? Hopefully we'll get to see some stuff what goes beside the games as well, for instance replay analyzes /w player's commentary, or just some fun relaxation to get rid of the game-induced adrenaline; you know, stuff like bungee/parachute/base jumping, extreme BMX/motorcross, airraces - your usual RB fare
On September 30 2011 13:24 theBizness wrote: How do people still think this is a tournament? Interesting collection of players, can't hurt.
Tbh, for the NA players it might not hurt but the Europeans and the Korean player(s) could probably get better practice at home ^__^
I just fail to see how it's possible to NOT gain anything by going there? Of course they're going to gain as much by going as the NA players, though I agree with you that koreans could prolly get better practice (but not preparations!) at home.
sound awesome the lineup is very good but a little questionable.it seems like a walkover for bomber maybe if the northern gods will shine Thorzain will have a slight chance
I like that Redbull's first order of business is to push a nerd out of a plane lol.
Anyway the lineup sounds awesome, Thorzain vs Bomber likely for finals but the rest of those players are pretty creative/goofy in their play-styles. Should be a pretty excellent tournament.
On October 01 2011 00:16 Tibbles wrote: I like that Redbull's first order of business is to push a nerd out of a plane lol.
Anyway the lineup sounds awesome, Thorzain vs Bomber likely for finals but the rest of those players are pretty creative/goofy in their play-styles. Should be a pretty excellent tournament.
People literally do not read the OP, or the multiple posts on each page telling them this is not a tournament. There's no winners or losers, there's no prize money.
Keep posting about how someone's gonna win this tournament that doesn't exist forever.
It's not a tournament, Redbull LAN is more like a practice house for two - three days that's being streamed. there is no prize money. Should be good practice for them foreigners though, I do not think any of them are in any houses outside of Ret at the moment.
On October 01 2011 01:06 KaiserReinhard wrote: So Bomber is spending 40+ hours traveling to practice with talent that is:
1. For the most part inferior to what you find at the ST house. 2. Doesn't speak his language.
Hmm...
Also it isn't truly a LAN...
Since Red Bull is not doing anything for free and plan to somehow profit from this I am sure all the players involved with this will somehow get payed. For sure they will have a great free experience.
On October 01 2011 00:37 slackador wrote: So, Destiny is going Protoss for this event? http://imgur.com/a734P
LOL. No, they just pulled Destiny's alt account info. Tbh, it's pretty hilariously ill-informed. I think he's probably the most "famous" player in there for non-hardcore SC2 fans. Obviously if you follow SC2 at all you could probably name the races of each player attending, but if you were to ask about each players race, favorite build, playstyle, etc I think most people would know Destiny the best.
On October 01 2011 00:37 slackador wrote: So, Destiny is going Protoss for this event? http://imgur.com/a734P
LOL. No, they just pulled Destiny's alt account info. Tbh, it's pretty hilariously ill-informed. I think he's probably the most "famous" player in there for non-hardcore SC2 fans. Obviously if you follow SC2 at all you could probably name the races of each player attending, but if you were to ask about each players race, favorite build, playstyle, etc I think most people would know Destiny the best.
You think more people would know destiny infestors over special tactics?
[QUOTE]On October 01 2011 04:59 -_- wrote: [QUOTE]On October 01 2011 03:28 zaii wrote: [QUOTE]On October 01 2011 03:15 Xeris wrote: Stream starts at 5pm... I wish they said exactly what would be happening th ough! [/QUOTE]
Halo will be on stream.
Source please? I certainly hope not :-([/QUOTE]
What does the thread title say?
anyways the stream will show Halo & SC2, I mean Day 9 is one of the host after all.
Perhaps there will be two separate streams? The page does say "live streamS".
If not, I'm preparing for the wave of complaints that will stem from having one stream switch off between SC2 and Halo, with both communities complaining they aren't showing their game : (
On October 01 2011 05:20 AzurewinD wrote: Perhaps there will be two separate streams? The page does say "live streamS".
If not, I'm preparing for the wave of complaints that will stem from having one stream switch off between SC2 and Halo, with both communities complaining they aren't showing their game : (
it would be amazing if both communities would just stop arguing and just enjoy the content that RedBull provides.
They said that the training is 10 hours a day and they will stream only 6 hours, they're streaming Halo right now. They start streaming SC2 at 5:00pm sharp. https://twitter.com/#!/day9tv At least I'm 98% sure they'll be streaming SC2. Does Day9 know what a plasma rifle is?
Boo, to the chat channel warrior flinging insults and flame wars at each other. Seriously, wouldn't it be better to enjoy both games and cooperate for the growth of ESPORTS?
Does anyone else feel like Day9 commentates as if he's having a co-commentator besides him? Or maybe im just too used to him and wheat casting together lol
Looking at a few of the Halo streams they all seem to be in HD, but when i look at he SC2 ones the quality seems really poor. I wonder if they're using the bandwidth for all the Halo stuff instead of the SC2 stuff.
On October 01 2011 09:15 zaii wrote: watching bomber in first person view
All 3 on full screen. Whats the prize pool btw?
none
Ah, so it's just a "showmatch tournament".
It's not a tournament at all, there's no bracket/structure, just guys playing sparring games.
Yeah got it. Practice weekend and all that. Well cool nevertheless.
Yeah, Day[9] just said all of the zergs are working heavily on ZvT while the protosses are PvP right now. It sounds very rigidly structured, I'm curious to read players' opinions when the weekend is through. And since this is a ZvT training session, he's focusing his commentary on Ret's side of the Ret v Bomber right now.
On October 01 2011 09:25 GetToDaChopa wrote: They got heart rate monitors attached to some of them. They're streaming in 240p. I question their priorities
prioritizing the players over the spectators in a bootcamp? wtf Redbull.
I'm so ashamed by all the SC2 retards in the chat screaming about small audio issues (which is already worked on) of an event with an awesome concept (supporting pro's to get better in their game), from a company who just added SC2 to their roster of supported games, with free streams with fucking Day9 commentary and player streams...
Seriously guys, STFU. Let them fix the issues and enjoy watching an awesome game (Ret vs Bomber) casted by Day9. Just enjoy and shut up. I'm so sick of it. Grow up guys and appreciate everything companies like RedBull are doing for ESPORTS.
Also I'm sick of this hate for other esports games. WTF?! I mean this is ESPORTS and it doesn't matter if it's Halo, Trackmania, LoL or SC2. Support dat shit and stop bashing other games or communities. We can grow this only TOGETHER while supporting each other. Sometimes I hate teh interwebz. -.-
Big thanks to RedBull for including SC2 in this event with such an awesome concept! ( btw start tweeting to thank them @redbullgaming)
On October 01 2011 09:25 GetToDaChopa wrote: They got heart rate monitors attached to some of them. They're streaming in 240p. I question their priorities
prioritizing the players over the spectators in a bootcamp? wtf Redbull.
More like prioritizing 'some stats for the spectators' over 'the stream quality for the spectators'.
On October 01 2011 09:33 blooblooblahblah wrote: Wow amazing game. Ret kinda fell apart but he played amazing for a while, and Bomber is just sooo good.
I'm not sure why he tech switched to infestors when he's in starvation :\
On October 01 2011 09:23 GreyKnight wrote: seriously, i wish i could understand why bomber is here.
"Meh, nothing too serious. Just came to wreck some face"
Hmm, maybe since Bomber used to be eSTRO back in the BW days, and Ret used to train with eSTRO, that he asked Bomber to practice with him? Just a guess.
On October 01 2011 09:33 blooblooblahblah wrote: Wow amazing game. Ret kinda fell apart but he played amazing for a while, and Bomber is just sooo good.
I'm not sure why he tech switched to infestors when he's in starvation :\
i think it mainly had to do with the fact he had 2k gas and barely any minerals. if he hit better fungals he woulda detroyed the msotly marine force
On October 01 2011 09:33 blooblooblahblah wrote: Wow amazing game. Ret kinda fell apart but he played amazing for a while, and Bomber is just sooo good.
I'm not sure why he tech switched to infestors when he's in starvation :\
Well he had almost no minerals and a ton of gas so it kinda worked out. He probably could've won there at the end if he engaged a little bit better and didn't' waste those banelings.
Wow I'm shocked bomber actually showed up. Well GSL did reschedule his ro16 game to oct 5th, so that gave him an extra day to get back in time. Guess he figures he has mvp's number and liked a paid vacation courtesy of red bull.
Getting to watch the players sounds really cool. But I don't see how Bomber coming to the US could have a positive effect on his play? Isn't he better equipped to practice at home in the StarTale house?
On October 01 2011 09:29 obsKura wrote: I'm so ashamed by all the SC2 retards in the chat screaming about small audio issues (which is already worked on) of an event with an awesome concept (supporting pro's to get better in their game), from a company who just added SC2 to their roster of supported games, with free streams with fucking Day9 commentary and player streams...
Seriously guys, STFU. Let them fix the issues and enjoy watching an awesome game (Ret vs Bomber) casted by Day9. Just enjoy and shut up. I'm so sick of it. Grow up guys and appreciate everything companies like RedBull are doing for ESPORTS.
Also I'm sick of this hate for other esports games. WTF?! I mean this is ESPORTS and it doesn't matter if it's Halo, Trackmania, LoL or SC2. Support dat shit and stop bashing other games or communities. We can grow this only TOGETHER while supporting each other. Sometimes I hate teh interwebz. -.-
Big thanks to RedBull for including SC2 in this event with such an awesome concept! ( btw start tweeting to thank them @redbullgaming)
Umm, it kind of does matter if it's Halo since I don't like that game and don't think it's worthwhile as a sport. Why does liking SC2 lump me into "supporting dat shit"?
On October 01 2011 09:54 Datum wrote: Getting to watch the players sounds really cool. But I don't see how Bomber coming to the US could have a positive effect on his play? Isn't he better equipped to practice at home in the StarTale house?
It's good for anyone to expose themselves to more styles. Especially so soon after a patch there are a lot of different ideas floating around and a good chance he will see some stuff he hasn't seen in Korea.
On October 01 2011 09:29 obsKura wrote: I'm so ashamed by all the SC2 retards in the chat screaming about small audio issues (which is already worked on) of an event with an awesome concept (supporting pro's to get better in their game), from a company who just added SC2 to their roster of supported games, with free streams with fucking Day9 commentary and player streams...
Seriously guys, STFU. Let them fix the issues and enjoy watching an awesome game (Ret vs Bomber) casted by Day9. Just enjoy and shut up. I'm so sick of it. Grow up guys and appreciate everything companies like RedBull are doing for ESPORTS.
Also I'm sick of this hate for other esports games. WTF?! I mean this is ESPORTS and it doesn't matter if it's Halo, Trackmania, LoL or SC2. Support dat shit and stop bashing other games or communities. We can grow this only TOGETHER while supporting each other. Sometimes I hate teh interwebz. -.-
Big thanks to RedBull for including SC2 in this event with such an awesome concept! ( btw start tweeting to thank them @redbullgaming)
Umm, it kind of does matter if it's Halo since I don't like that game and don't think it's worthwhile as a sport. Why does liking SC2 lump me into "supporting dat shit"?
But flinging mud and flame war in the chat channel is just childish and bad. Sure you might not like the game but it doesn't mean you have to flame the other side.
On October 01 2011 09:29 obsKura wrote: I'm so ashamed by all the SC2 retards in the chat screaming about small audio issues (which is already worked on) of an event with an awesome concept (supporting pro's to get better in their game), from a company who just added SC2 to their roster of supported games, with free streams with fucking Day9 commentary and player streams...
Seriously guys, STFU. Let them fix the issues and enjoy watching an awesome game (Ret vs Bomber) casted by Day9. Just enjoy and shut up. I'm so sick of it. Grow up guys and appreciate everything companies like RedBull are doing for ESPORTS.
Also I'm sick of this hate for other esports games. WTF?! I mean this is ESPORTS and it doesn't matter if it's Halo, Trackmania, LoL or SC2. Support dat shit and stop bashing other games or communities. We can grow this only TOGETHER while supporting each other. Sometimes I hate teh interwebz. -.-
Big thanks to RedBull for including SC2 in this event with such an awesome concept! ( btw start tweeting to thank them @redbullgaming)
Umm, it kind of does matter if it's Halo since I don't like that game and don't think it's worthwhile as a sport. Why does liking SC2 lump me into "supporting dat shit"?
Nobody gives two shits if you like Halo or not, but have some fucking respect instead of behaving like immature children.
I swear morons on the internet will never be satisfied with anything.
On October 01 2011 09:29 obsKura wrote: I'm so ashamed by all the SC2 retards in the chat screaming about small audio issues (which is already worked on) of an event with an awesome concept (supporting pro's to get better in their game), from a company who just added SC2 to their roster of supported games, with free streams with fucking Day9 commentary and player streams...
Seriously guys, STFU. Let them fix the issues and enjoy watching an awesome game (Ret vs Bomber) casted by Day9. Just enjoy and shut up. I'm so sick of it. Grow up guys and appreciate everything companies like RedBull are doing for ESPORTS.
Also I'm sick of this hate for other esports games. WTF?! I mean this is ESPORTS and it doesn't matter if it's Halo, Trackmania, LoL or SC2. Support dat shit and stop bashing other games or communities. We can grow this only TOGETHER while supporting each other. Sometimes I hate teh interwebz. -.-
Big thanks to RedBull for including SC2 in this event with such an awesome concept! ( btw start tweeting to thank them @redbullgaming)
Umm, it kind of does matter if it's Halo since I don't like that game and don't think it's worthwhile as a sport. Why does liking SC2 lump me into "supporting dat shit"?
If you don't like it, thts fine but hating on it in the chat is stupid and childish. I don't like Halo either, but tht dosen't give me the right to shit on it.
On October 01 2011 09:54 Datum wrote: Getting to watch the players sounds really cool. But I don't see how Bomber coming to the US could have a positive effect on his play? Isn't he better equipped to practice at home in the StarTale house?
I actually don't think practicing with ST would be of more help to him for MLG specifically. However he might very well suffer for this in the next GSL round. -_-
On October 01 2011 09:29 obsKura wrote: I'm so ashamed by all the SC2 retards in the chat screaming about small audio issues (which is already worked on) of an event with an awesome concept (supporting pro's to get better in their game), from a company who just added SC2 to their roster of supported games, with free streams with fucking Day9 commentary and player streams...
Seriously guys, STFU. Let them fix the issues and enjoy watching an awesome game (Ret vs Bomber) casted by Day9. Just enjoy and shut up. I'm so sick of it. Grow up guys and appreciate everything companies like RedBull are doing for ESPORTS.
Also I'm sick of this hate for other esports games. WTF?! I mean this is ESPORTS and it doesn't matter if it's Halo, Trackmania, LoL or SC2. Support dat shit and stop bashing other games or communities. We can grow this only TOGETHER while supporting each other. Sometimes I hate teh interwebz. -.-
Big thanks to RedBull for including SC2 in this event with such an awesome concept! ( btw start tweeting to thank them @redbullgaming)
Umm, it kind of does matter if it's Halo since I don't like that game and don't think it's worthwhile as a sport. Why does liking SC2 lump me into "supporting dat shit"?
Nobody gives two shits if you like Halo or not, but have some fucking respect instead of behaving like immature children.
I swear morons on the internet will never be satisfied with anything.
I was referring to the part where he said I should support Halo and LoL simply because they are E-sports. Had nothing to do with the flaming. I swear morons on the internet will never even read my post.
Umm...no. I like sports too are you suggesting I respect every single sport ever invented simply because it is a sport? Also I'm not saying you should be flaming people in the chat, but that doesn't mean I have to respect Halo or LoL etc.
On October 01 2011 10:25 wuddersup wrote: Day9: "KR's play was so typical and standard that if Tyler can't beat that... there's something fundamentally wrong with his play."
Yeah, I heard that, too. Though isn't Tyler experimenting with some builds?
On October 01 2011 10:25 wuddersup wrote: Day9: "KR's play was so typical and standard that if Tyler can't beat that... there's something fundamentally wrong with his play."
Yeah, I heard that, too. Though isn't Tyler experimenting with some builds?
Yeah, he refered to the build, not Tyler's abilities.
On October 01 2011 10:25 wuddersup wrote: Day9: "KR's play was so typical and standard that if Tyler can't beat that... there's something fundamentally wrong with his play."
Yeah, I heard that, too. Though isn't Tyler experimenting with some builds?
Yeah, definitely.
Warp Prism speed before Colossus is not standard in PvT by any means.
I might be wrong but I thought Tyler was well known for his strong standard play etc. But lately most of the games I see are of him doing something fancy or cute
On October 01 2011 10:30 lim1017 wrote: I might be wrong but I thought Tyler was well known for his strong standard play etc. But lately most of the games I see are of him doing something fancy or cute
On October 01 2011 10:30 lim1017 wrote: I might be wrong but I thought Tyler was well known for his strong standard play etc. But lately most of the games I see are of him doing something fancy or cute
Pretty sure Tyler is known for unique builds not standard ones.
Slow gameplay and CTF looks really lame. I am used to watching people chase the capper at 20 times that speed in CPMA, Warsow or Tribes and it kinda makes it look like the specific roles of offensive, defensive and capper and decisions who gets which armor and weapons are less imporant.
It randomly switches, sometimes I hear Ret well, sometimes Day9 , but not both at the same time.
EDIT:but mostly I hear Day9 and do not hear Ret. And sometimes it seems like we hear feed from Halo streams. Kind of impossible to get nearly anything from the discussion.
On October 01 2011 10:30 lim1017 wrote: I might be wrong but I thought Tyler was well known for his strong standard play etc. But lately most of the games I see are of him doing something fancy or cute
Pretty sure Tyler is known for unique builds not standard ones.
Actually, somewhere Tyler had said something pertaining to standard play. I don't have the quote on hand or memorized, but it went along the lines of "If you do something weird or out of the norm, my conservative play will destroy you."
With that, Tyler is more known for being very standard and having very crisp mechanics, the only scenario I can really name in which he deviated from the norm was/is his Phoenix play from time to time during the Beta and now.
On October 01 2011 10:30 lim1017 wrote: I might be wrong but I thought Tyler was well known for his strong standard play etc. But lately most of the games I see are of him doing something fancy or cute
Pretty sure Tyler is known for unique builds not standard ones.
Actually, somewhere Tyler had said something pertaining to standard play. I don't have the quote on hand or memorized, but it went along the lines of "If you do something weird or out of the norm, my conservative play will destroy you."
With that, Tyler is more known for being very standard and having very crisp mechanics, the only scenario I can really name in which he deviated from the norm was/is his Phoenix play from time to time during the Beta and now.
Tyler's play is definitely very safe... sometimes too safe. He'll almost never do something like a Nexus first.
Damn, hope they get the technical issues sorted out... I love the idea hearing strategy/balance discussion with games to back it up, and the thought process behind those games.
On October 01 2011 10:51 Phobbers wrote: Actually, somewhere Tyler had said something pertaining to standard play. I don't have the quote on hand or memorized, but it went along the lines of "If you do something weird or out of the norm, my conservative play will destroy you."
I think he more thinks of safe play with "conservative". He always tries to work out his own builds. But they are never "gimmicky" but safe/conservative. (and I actually think that is is one of his problems because you lose in SC2 if you commit too much in being safe from everything)
Hopefully by tomorrow they will have all the issues ironed out and we can get some good content. Still trying to watch now though haha. Hopefully good practice for everyone as well.
Complaining reasonably about the sound problems is not being ungrateful for the stream. It is just that in this particular case Day9 and Ret put a lot of effort into explaining the strategy to us and it is a shame that a lot of that was lost. I would be happy even for the first person views, but I want their extra effort to not go to waste.
On October 01 2011 10:30 lim1017 wrote: I might be wrong but I thought Tyler was well known for his strong standard play etc. But lately most of the games I see are of him doing something fancy or cute
Pretty sure Tyler is known for unique builds not standard ones.
Actually, somewhere Tyler had said something pertaining to standard play. I don't have the quote on hand or memorized, but it went along the lines of "If you do something weird or out of the norm, my conservative play will destroy you."
With that, Tyler is more known for being very standard and having very crisp mechanics, the only scenario I can really name in which he deviated from the norm was/is his Phoenix play from time to time during the Beta and now.
Tyler's play is definitely very safe... sometimes too safe. He'll almost never do something like a Nexus first.
Yeah, I agree to some point. I understand wanting to play super safe, because sometimes playing super safe will net you an easy win, but like every coin, there are two sides and with that, I feel Tyler just doesn't take those gambles that many players do today.
Ah, after watching D9 and this event a little more, I have to say this is pretty great! It's nice to watch high level mechanics with different strategies, while having someone like D9 keep you thinking when he can.
On October 01 2011 11:48 talismania wrote: I don't understand why socke is coming to the us for this, but not staying for playing ipl3 qualifiers and then orlando?
RedBull's awesome for putting this up! It could be even better if we could hear Day9 and co. discuss the strategy though . Game sound's a little bit high too...
I must say that I liking that event very much so far. I'm watching Bomber's FPVOD while listening to Day9's deeper-than-usual analysis (sparring games). That's very cool, Day9 does a great job as usual.
Day[9] is such a pro caster. I'm really impressed at how composed and fluid his commentary is. Its especially noticeable when watching the halo stream where the casters are a little less seasoned than the best SC casters.
Lag seems to be gone for me! Really enjoyable now. Day is doing a great job as usual. Seeing some good games out of this too. Was hoping qxc could beat bomber there in g3. Wish they would get qxc on stream to talk about his play. As well as all the other players. Socke, sheth, tyler, poke, all of em would be great to hear from.
On October 01 2011 12:57 [MLG]GCA wrote: Is there any place I can find the results of SC2 so far? I went to the LAN's site and it said no matches have been completed -____-.
Or, would anybody be so kind as to give me a recap? :D Haven't been able to watch any yet today.
Its not a tournament, there are no results. Its just a practice LAN with some amazing players.
I would love to hear from the players after the LAN on how they liked it.
On October 01 2011 12:57 [MLG]GCA wrote: Is there any place I can find the results of SC2 so far? I went to the LAN's site and it said no matches have been completed -____-.
Or, would anybody be so kind as to give me a recap? :D Haven't been able to watch any yet today.
Its not a tournament, there are no results. Its just a practice LAN with some amazing players.
I would love to hear from the players after the LAN on how they liked it.
Ya, I got that part. Just would like to know who's won and lost .
On October 01 2011 12:57 [MLG]GCA wrote: Is there any place I can find the results of SC2 so far? I went to the LAN's site and it said no matches have been completed -____-.
Or, would anybody be so kind as to give me a recap? :D Haven't been able to watch any yet today.
Its not a tournament, there are no results. Its just a practice LAN with some amazing players.
I would love to hear from the players after the LAN on how they liked it.
Ya, I got that part. Just would like to know who's won and lost .
everyone. I haven't been watching non stop but Ret and Bomber played and I think bomber won 2-1, I saw Sheth beat Socke and Bomber beat QXC. Tyler lost to KawaiiRice too. But all these guys are set out to work on a certain aspect of their game, like Ret was really trying to spread creep against Terran so that was a big emphasis in his games vs Bomber.
Does Ret ever lose a series 2-0 lol? Always seems to have a chance and very close games no matter who he's playing which is pretty cool. Expecting big things from Ret at this next MLG actually
Perhaps it is but then again is it not meant to be more of a 'boot camp' for some of these players to get into shape for the upcoming MLG? Guess we'll get to hear feedback from how the players found it soon enough
Xeris, my purpose was not to blame you but to inquire on the statement that was "heard". I'd actually like to see more video of the tournament area. ^^
On October 01 2011 13:35 morevox wrote: Xeris, my purpose was not to blame you but to inquire on the statement that was "heard". I'd actually like to see more video of the tournament area. ^^
I agree, I was hoping for more of a Homestory Cup vibe. That's a tournament that could double, ambiance-wise, as a training session.
I'm actually loving the multiple streams as well so we can watch some of the guys play from a first-person view. Actually think more tournaments should look into this avenue in the future, I guess the only potential issue would be potential lag from streaming affecting the players as it's pretty intensive on your comp, but still cool nonetheless.
My understanding is that it's some sort of bootcamp, and Pokebunny seemed pretty receptive to what Day9 was saying so it's as if he's being overly patronising or anything
Genuinely didn't know about this event until I logged on at 2am or so but I'm actually enjoying it the most of the tournaments/events that are going on
On October 01 2011 13:56 figq wrote: I'm watching Slush's view from here: http://www.redbullusa.com/cs/Satellite/en_US/001243017356310 but what I don't understand is why Day[9] is teaching Pokebunny how to play during the game? Is this a fun event?
Is it just me or is the 'chat room' shared with the viewers of the other games? It's descended into outright trolling from fools who seem to think telling SC2 fans 'you live with your parents basement' is funny. It's not even a proper sentence!
Crap is being thrown on both sides though.
Also the streams were very messy early on, sound issues mainly. They seemed to be cleared up so no issue.
Interesting overall concept, but I think the shared chat room was a mistake. People cannot control their inner troll over the net like they can irl (people at events with shared areas wouldn't be like this, for fear of being smacked in the mouth imo).
I don't know man, there is a bit too much trolling for my liking but if any curious folk move over to check out the SC2 stream after hearing people talk about it, and get into the game through that avenue I guess it could have a silver lining
On October 01 2011 14:05 00Visor wrote: I don't know if this is really effective training the way Day9 treats it.
As Day[9] said, the game was over, but rather than starting another game right away, they could practice a bit of this later-mid game push on both sides by not ending it right then.
P.S. Not even looking at the chat. Rather deal with the manner folks on TL. :-)
This stream is gold just because of Bomber's first person view. But I doubt that he's taking it seriously because of his upcoming GSL match vs MVP. I also thought it was cool when Day9 jumped into the Slush vs Pokebunny game and told them what to do, that was pretty funny =) I'll have to think about doing something similar with my friends.
The low quality SC2 stream sucks, but eh what can you do. I hope they stream record the SC2 stuff separate from the Halo stuff, but right now it looks like they're only recording the mainstage stuff...bleh.
On October 01 2011 18:30 Bayyne wrote: This...is...not...a...tournament.
It's useless man, nothing short of a huge "THIS IS NOT A TOURNAMENT" mod warning at the top of the page will stop the endless "bomber will win!" replies. >.>
Lmao. I actually cant understand why (perhaps any of them) koreans decided to go there to "practice"? surely they would get more useful practice out of their normal regime.
Would love to see a list of series that were played and their scores. I know that they have this info for Halo so I assume it is available for SC2 also.
On October 01 2011 18:57 Zax19 wrote: Honestly, I feel like they're trying to get tournament-type of viewership while not paying any pricemoney, this is such a missed opportunity.
This is honestly not the case at all. Redbull lans have been going on for a while now. They are primarily for preparation for the Halo teams. They are now helping sc2 players out. Redbull does this to almost every person they sponsor. Walshy, and Status Quo are being helped out by Redbull. The fact that they are including sc2 this time around is great and maybe we'll see a redbull sponsored sc2 player soon.
I find it pretty weird to add a game for a LAN when Blizzard doesn't even have a LAN feature.
With the sound fixed it was great to watch, until I fell asleep. Too late for my timezone, but I need to start practicing for MLG/IPL late night sessions so it is good practice not only for the players, but also for us European viewers
On October 01 2011 19:18 mcc wrote: With the sound fixed it was great to watch, until I fell asleep. Too late for my timezone, but I need to start practicing for MLG/IPL late night sessions so it is good practice not only for the players, but also for us European viewers
Thank you very much! I've been waiting two days almost. Start of the 29th I thought it would start 11 PM CEST. It didn't, then the 30th it was gonna start 11 PM CEST. But I messed up the timezones and it was gonna start at like 2 -3 AM. Maybe the event would start at 11 but the stream would start later. Now the 3rd day I check again and at least there are VODS, been getting really hyped to watch.
Edit: Since there seems to be a lot of DMAQ on the stream. I think it is the perfect moment to post the following. It's an impression what I believe two public figures of the Halo community. Atleast one is a pro player for sure. 'Going forward, it's really funny, because statistically speaking, DMAQ, MLG commentator, for Halo, on the pro circuit, at DC, on the bubble, has a very specific way of talking and they can really make it into a comedy, I have to give them kudos for that.' - The style is somewhere along those lines. + Show Spoiler +
Are JTV vods always incredibly slow to load for anyone else? I have a decently fast internet connection and never have a problem with vods from anywhere else or watching live but JTV vods load at a snail's pace, completely unwatchable unless I let it sit for hours in advance.
On October 01 2011 21:36 coolzombie wrote: Hi. Anyone know anything about results and when day 2 starts? can't find any information anywhere. Not even the scoreboards on their site is updated.
On October 01 2011 21:36 coolzombie wrote: Hi. Anyone know anything about results and when day 2 starts? can't find any information anywhere. Not even the scoreboards on their site is updated.
Does redbull's interest in SC2 mean that they will branch out to sc2 too? I hope redbull will join the scene and create an equally successful team as they have in formula 1.
On October 02 2011 00:26 Herb89 wrote: So they stream their train games? If not what will be streamed?
Day9 picks people who are playing, and does casts of them. Usually a Bo3 series or something. It's an opportunity for players who never get to practice with each other to practice together.
Looking forward to seeing some more practice games. Its really interesting to watch the different games you get from a practice setting as compared to someone streaming ladder games or playing in a tournament.
On October 02 2011 04:11 justinpal wrote: Check out this link. It has in game chats of all the players as well as all their replays being played. If it has been posted already, then sue me.
Thank you very much! I've been waiting two days almost. Start of the 29th I thought it would start 11 PM CEST. It didn't, then the 30th it was gonna start 11 PM CEST. But I messed up the timezones and it was gonna start at like 2 -3 AM. Maybe the event would start at 11 but the stream would start later. Now the 3rd day I check again and at least there are VODS, been getting really hyped to watch.
Edit: Since there seems to be a lot of DMAQ on the stream. I think it is the perfect moment to post the following. It's an impression what I believe two public figures of the Halo community. Atleast one is a pro player for sure. 'Going forward, it's really funny, because statistically speaking, DMAQ, MLG commentator, for Halo, on the pro circuit, at DC, on the bubble, has a very specific way of talking and they can really make it into a comedy, I have to give them kudos for that.' - The style is somewhere along those lines. + Show Spoiler +
Yeah, that's Totz, who I'm not sure is even on a pro team anymore, and his dad. They had a house they were using for pre-event LANs for a long time, and were trying to make it a kind of business with paid viewership and some produced content like that video you posted. I guess the monetary commitment was just too big though, because they semirecently shut it down.
Unrelated to Starcraft, but still maybe an amusing story for the unaware, Totz has for a long time been considered one of the worst players on any pro Halo roster. He consistently posted poor stats and died at inopportune times without even an assist or movement on the flag. Because of this, a lot of the community accused him of only getting on pro teams because his dad's money was funding this LAN house, so whatever team he was on always got invites to every LAN and a lot of the time actually lived there between events. Now that his LAN house is over, he's still not on any pro team 2 weeks out from the event.
They have really nicely done match history pages with stats and replay download links. I hope that tournaments will take notice and implement it similarly as some tournaments out there have terrible pages with results/replays/vods. And chat is even worse than average sc2 stream chat
On October 02 2011 09:39 mprs wrote: is bomber actually physically there?
Ya he is. At least it would seem like it. White-ra and others are there from europe so.
I can't watch it really. Seems like 720p and my net only handles 480p. They just tweeted @ me that they are working on a low bitrate stream for day9's. Hopefully they get it up soon.
On October 02 2011 09:09 Geordie wrote: Doesnt fucking let you lower the quality and with my internet the new quality settings are unwatchable, nice fucking job red bull
On October 02 2011 09:09 Geordie wrote: Doesnt fucking let you lower the quality and with my internet the new quality settings are unwatchable, nice fucking job red bull
twitch.tv/redbullgaming
That's just the main stream though, it alternates between sc2 and Halo, day9's stream continues even when the main one is showing halo, at least that was the case yesterday.
On October 02 2011 09:09 Geordie wrote: Doesnt fucking let you lower the quality and with my internet the new quality settings are unwatchable, nice fucking job red bull
twitch.tv/redbullgaming
That's just the main stream though, it alternates between sc2 and Halo, day9's stream continues even when the main one is showing halo, at least that was the case yesterday.
yea i know... unfortunately though, it's all they have to offer for this problem.
How come this isnt featured on the stream list? Really really good players there, Tyler, Sheth and Ret from the TL team even, Day9 commentary...and the stream has been great for me thus far, the Destiny vs Minigun practice matches with Day9 analysis + little hints and suggestions was very interesting and entertaining at the same time.
I agree. Not sure if TeamLiquid relies on community to submit things like this or stuff but one way or another there should be at least some mention of it.
On October 02 2011 10:03 mcc wrote: Anyway I love the event so far, but I think it should be added to events/calendar section on TL, some people might miss it because it is not there.
I missed it yesterday and almost missed it again today if I hadn't seen the thread popup to remind me. Very peculiar that it isn't on the events list considering it even has Tyler. Oh well...
On October 02 2011 10:17 ZenithM wrote: Anyone can hear Day9 on his stream atm? There are only game sounds for me.
You can hear him on the main stream now, when he is on the main stream his feed is only there, when halo is on the main stream you can hear him on his specific stream. You need to switch streams unfortunately, they should fix it.
I just want to take a brief moment from the appauling things being said in the chat,to tell how awesome this is by redbull to do. Lovin' the day9 commentating :D
Also day9's commentary is up on the mainstream. it's for some reason (probably glitched) not on his own channel on redbullusa.com/lan
There you have the stream from day9, from player 1 and player 2
Ahh yeah I had seen that earlier. All I see is an exclamation point in the middle of the frame, no matter what I click on the right side. Anyone else having this issue?
Cant believe the unorganised communication between these halo players, i know they are practically my age but shiiiiit. Half the time someone is shouting some useless comment over something important from another player, sure call it "excitement" but ive seen more organisation in a clan I WAS IN ( i say it in caps because i suck ass.) on a F2P game. seriously, if any of these players / "teams" came across a semi-organised team instead of a bunch of hyper skilled 1 man army teenagers like themselves i think they would have a tough time to be honest. Im not doubting their skill as players but hell they're teamwork needs a SHITLOAD of improvement, which would improve results without doubt.
On October 02 2011 11:06 Capped wrote: Cant believe the unorganised communication between these halo players, i know they are practically my age but shiiiiit. Half the time someone is shouting some useless comment over something important from another player, sure call it "excitement" but ive seen more organisation in a clan I WAS IN ( i say it in caps because i suck ass.) on a F2P game. seriously, if any of these players / "teams" came across a semi-organised team instead of a bunch of hyper skilled 1 man army teenagers like themselves i think they would have a tough time to be honest. Im not doubting their skill as players but hell they're teamwork needs a SHITLOAD of improvement, which would improve results without doubt.
Kudos on the raw game skill though.
Good to see you could pick that up from watching a stream rather than actually playing the game. You're truly the world's greatest analyst.
On October 02 2011 11:06 Capped wrote: Cant believe the unorganised communication between these halo players, i know they are practically my age but shiiiiit. Half the time someone is shouting some useless comment over something important from another player, sure call it "excitement" but ive seen more organisation in a clan I WAS IN ( i say it in caps because i suck ass.) on a F2P game. seriously, if any of these players / "teams" came across a semi-organised team instead of a bunch of hyper skilled 1 man army teenagers like themselves i think they would have a tough time to be honest. Im not doubting their skill as players but hell they're teamwork needs a SHITLOAD of improvement, which would improve results without doubt.
Kudos on the raw game skill though.
Good to see you could pick that up from watching a stream rather than actually playing the game. You're truly the world's greatest analyst.
So shouting "Omg "HE" (no actual name or location) killed me is more important then "X at red spawn capping flag"? Yeah picking up miscommunication is pretty darn easy from watching a stream of an FPS game. Your logic is damn flawed. They are great players but they are kids who cant communicate properly.
And btw, the fucking casters just said it themselves!
Is anyone else feeling a little disgusted at the SC2 viewers attitude towards the Halo community/viewers? The chat is just littered with comments bashing Halo players, viewers, and the game it self. If I recall the SC2 fanbase actually boo'd some the Halo winners at one of the events, makes me sad that TL is being represented by these 4chan troll reminsecents. Honestly if you dont like the game thats fine, but I dont understand why people deem it okay to ruthlessly mock and hate on a game helping contribute to the growth of pro gaming.
On October 02 2011 11:26 Astro-Penguin wrote: Is anyone else feeling a little disgusted at the SC2 viewers attitude towards the Halo community/viewers? The chat is just littered with comments bashing Halo players, viewers, and the game it self. If I recall the SC2 fanbase actually boo'd some the Halo winners at one of the events, makes me sad that TL is being represented by these 4chan troll reminsecents. Honestly if you dont like the game thats fine, but I dont understand why people deem it okay to ruthlessly mock and hate on a game helping contribute to the growth of pro gaming.
Kids, all of them. Fuck em.
In other news, I just founds the replays! OMNOMNOMNOMNOM replays.
On October 02 2011 11:26 Astro-Penguin wrote: Is anyone else feeling a little disgusted at the SC2 viewers attitude towards the Halo community/viewers? The chat is just littered with comments bashing Halo players, viewers, and the game it self. If I recall the SC2 fanbase actually boo'd some the Halo winners at one of the events, makes me sad that TL is being represented by these 4chan troll reminsecents. Honestly if you dont like the game thats fine, but I dont understand why people deem it okay to ruthlessly mock and hate on a game helping contribute to the growth of pro gaming.
oh, you realised that sc players are elitist, look at those sc:bw hipsters react to sc2, that's how sc2 players take other games.
On October 02 2011 11:26 Astro-Penguin wrote: Is anyone else feeling a little disgusted at the SC2 viewers attitude towards the Halo community/viewers? The chat is just littered with comments bashing Halo players, viewers, and the game it self. If I recall the SC2 fanbase actually boo'd some the Halo winners at one of the events, makes me sad that TL is being represented by these 4chan troll reminsecents. Honestly if you dont like the game thats fine, but I dont understand why people deem it okay to ruthlessly mock and hate on a game helping contribute to the growth of pro gaming.
its called trolls. there are no moderators in the chat, don't pay too much attention to it, you're brain cells will slowly die
On October 02 2011 11:26 Astro-Penguin wrote: Is anyone else feeling a little disgusted at the SC2 viewers attitude towards the Halo community/viewers? The chat is just littered with comments bashing Halo players, viewers, and the game it self. If I recall the SC2 fanbase actually boo'd some the Halo winners at one of the events, makes me sad that TL is being represented by these 4chan troll reminsecents. Honestly if you dont like the game thats fine, but I dont understand why people deem it okay to ruthlessly mock and hate on a game helping contribute to the growth of pro gaming.
If it makes u feel any better i feel the SC2 players would communicate worse then those guys as they are solo dudes
On October 02 2011 11:26 Astro-Penguin wrote: Is anyone else feeling a little disgusted at the SC2 viewers attitude towards the Halo community/viewers? The chat is just littered with comments bashing Halo players, viewers, and the game it self. If I recall the SC2 fanbase actually boo'd some the Halo winners at one of the events, makes me sad that TL is being represented by these 4chan troll reminsecents. Honestly if you dont like the game thats fine, but I dont understand why people deem it okay to ruthlessly mock and hate on a game helping contribute to the growth of pro gaming.
Stream chats are always like this. I see as much bullshit coming from the Halo fans in the chat and I would like to believe that most of the people talking shit there are not a fair representation of the fanbase for either game
On October 02 2011 11:26 Astro-Penguin wrote: Is anyone else feeling a little disgusted at the SC2 viewers attitude towards the Halo community/viewers? The chat is just littered with comments bashing Halo players, viewers, and the game it self. If I recall the SC2 fanbase actually boo'd some the Halo winners at one of the events, makes me sad that TL is being represented by these 4chan troll reminsecents. Honestly if you dont like the game thats fine, but I dont understand why people deem it okay to ruthlessly mock and hate on a game helping contribute to the growth of pro gaming.
oh, you realised that sc players are elitist, look at those sc:bw hipsters react to sc2, that's how sc2 players take other games.
Huge sweeping generalizations there..the vocal majority is often times not the actual majority. Everyone knows stream chats are troll nests..
Seriously, how many times do we have to go through the same issues. Can some of the people hosting these events spend like 10 minutes of their time and figure out what has sucked in the past and not repeat these same stupid problems? Having no way to reduce the stream quality is just ridiculous. Not all of us live in a college dorm with fiber to our room, ya know?
On October 02 2011 11:26 Astro-Penguin wrote: Is anyone else feeling a little disgusted at the SC2 viewers attitude towards the Halo community/viewers? The chat is just littered with comments bashing Halo players, viewers, and the game it self. If I recall the SC2 fanbase actually boo'd some the Halo winners at one of the events, makes me sad that TL is being represented by these 4chan troll reminsecents. Honestly if you dont like the game thats fine, but I dont understand why people deem it okay to ruthlessly mock and hate on a game helping contribute to the growth of pro gaming.
oh, you realised that sc players are elitist, look at those sc:bw hipsters react to sc2, that's how sc2 players take other games.
Huge sweeping generalizations there..the vocal majority is often times not the actual majority. Everyone knows stream chats are troll nests..
we should include most of the forum community as well then, remember all the hate to other rts games, im just saying that it's nothing new, don't need to attack me now ;/ Anw, time to enjoy the match.
On October 02 2011 11:26 Astro-Penguin wrote: Is anyone else feeling a little disgusted at the SC2 viewers attitude towards the Halo community/viewers? The chat is just littered with comments bashing Halo players, viewers, and the game it self. If I recall the SC2 fanbase actually boo'd some the Halo winners at one of the events, makes me sad that TL is being represented by these 4chan troll reminsecents. Honestly if you dont like the game thats fine, but I dont understand why people deem it okay to ruthlessly mock and hate on a game helping contribute to the growth of pro gaming.
If it makes u feel any better i feel the SC2 players would communicate worse then those guys as they are solo dudes
In 2v2's I am awful at that whole communication thing.
'Make lings. Like...a billion lings. I need them to die so my units can win the game.' 'You don't have enough lings.' 'I lost a couple of scvs. You have to react faster.' 'WHERE'S YOUR TECH.' 'We won. You came bottom of the scoreboard. BECOME BETTER NOW PLOX.'
On October 02 2011 11:26 Astro-Penguin wrote: Is anyone else feeling a little disgusted at the SC2 viewers attitude towards the Halo community/viewers? The chat is just littered with comments bashing Halo players, viewers, and the game it self. If I recall the SC2 fanbase actually boo'd some the Halo winners at one of the events, makes me sad that TL is being represented by these 4chan troll reminsecents. Honestly if you dont like the game thats fine, but I dont understand why people deem it okay to ruthlessly mock and hate on a game helping contribute to the growth of pro gaming.
If it makes u feel any better i feel the SC2 players would communicate worse then those guys as they are solo dudes
In 2v2's I am awful at that whole communication thing.
'Make lings. Like...a billion lings. I need them to die so my units can win the game.' 'You don't have enough lings.' 'I lost a couple of scvs. You have to react faster.' 'WHERE'S YOUR TECH.' 'We won. You came bottom of the scoreboard. BECOME BETTER NOW PLOX.'
Honestly I don't know why he puts up with me x)
Lol, i realise my post was pretty generalised but ur trollin
Fact is the halo "team?" players should have communication valued above all else and i communicate better with the children i work with. (1-5yr olds.) God damn they own as singular players but dont spend enough time working they're team skills out or when its actually relevant to say something. E.G. "Fuck it", "yeah whatever", "Omg he got me" etc etc. <--- completely irrelevant / unuseful comments.
Interesting discussion between Tyler and Sheth, from wat i hear Tyler said skipping the phoenixes makes the timing much stronger and Sheth said there's no way for the zerg to take a 3rd
Thestrongcat: I think halo has potential to be in the olypmpics this year afterall starcraft 2 is really skillless because not as many people bought it than halo
Thestrongcat: halo takes a lot more skill than starcraft because u hav to aim at mor people and because there is more action goin on like teamfiring and sniping
Mastertouch: yeah halo takes more skill. there is much more actions per minute. you have 6 buttons you have to press and 4 players you need to shoot at. starcraft is jsut strategy. halo has teamwork, individual skill, and strategy.
Just sharing some of my favourites from the stream chat.
Have to say I'm pretty disappointed. I've seen the Halo lans before and you can always just watch the point of view of any of the players there.
I thought I'd get to watch Bomber for 3 straight days, but you can only watch the cam of the players being commentated. This lan seems just like a long Day 9 daily to me :/
On October 02 2011 11:26 Astro-Penguin wrote: Is anyone else feeling a little disgusted at the SC2 viewers attitude towards the Halo community/viewers? The chat is just littered with comments bashing Halo players, viewers, and the game it self. If I recall the SC2 fanbase actually boo'd some the Halo winners at one of the events, makes me sad that TL is being represented by these 4chan troll reminsecents. Honestly if you dont like the game thats fine, but I dont understand why people deem it okay to ruthlessly mock and hate on a game helping contribute to the growth of pro gaming.
First of all, people who posts represent themselves. If some halo player reads a chat that says `"fuck halo wheres my sc2" or similar comments, does that halo person think "ohh man, im upset about that individuals post, he must speak for all of team liquid and the organization, therefore team liquid is a fucking horrible site, I will make sure i never contribute ever and hope the site crumbles". Sounds fucking stupid doesnt it?
Second off, while I'm sure the majority of people who are on posting those comments are from team liquid viewers/posters, its because its fucking posted on this site, and im sure 99% of people who click that link expect to see sc2. Even given otherwise, dont you think sc2 players have a right to be fucking pissed off when we are watching a match between two extremely popular players (ie sheth vs nony) and the cast is cut halfway through to go to halo? Or when we expect to see sc2 and we see halo, or when we watch 30 minutes of sc2 then have a 30 minute halo "intermission"???
Idk about halo as a game, but im definatly one of those people who opens the stream expecting sc2 content, seeing a bit of sc2 content, then being shoved halo in my face. Fuck halo, i dont play halo, if i did, i wouldnt be on a fucking sc2 website checking out streams hoping one of them is halo. Even though I didnt post anything in those threads or whatever, i fully support anyone who does post anti halo shit. Sc2 and halo streams should be 100% seperate. I sencerely doubt there are people who turned on the stream to see halo, or turned on the stream to see sc2, are content with viewing a combination of both, with seemingly no scheduled broadcast of sc2 at time x and halo at time y. People want to see either halo or sc2, not a mix of both, so obviously fans from both sides are gonna be pissed when their favorite game broadcast is interrupted by some game they dont care about.
Unless of course your one of those people who dont give a shit about what your watching as long as its gaming because your "contributing to the growth of esports".
great, anothet fucking game interrupted halfway through by halo.... and none of those links on the redbull site actually work either..,. for me anyways...
That KawaiiRice vs. Sheth match on Tal'Darim was sooooo weird (in a very good way).. man KR made those Ravens work their ass off, shame he killed like 9 of them with the last seeker missiles :O
On October 02 2011 13:45 backtoback wrote: are the games over??? bracket? results information anyone?
It's a practice LAN, ergo there is no bracket and results are irrelevant. The games will be back soon, they were just changing some settings on the streams.
Ok that was a fun game, but what's with zergs not killing their opponents today, Morrow versus Ryung didnt have Ravens but was like 20 minutes longer than it could have been.
I've never had a more enjoyable experience watching starcraft than watching this stream. The laid back and chill Day9 breaking it down like he always does, the players providing shows of epic proportions, the 3 stream match experience, the lack of tension due to tournament environment... the perfect storm of chill. Shout out to all those involved man
Edit- btw, where would be a good place to provide them with positive feedback? =]
On October 02 2011 14:00 BFCrimson wrote: I've never had a more enjoyable experience watching starcraft than watching this stream. The laid back and chill Day9 breaking it down like he always does, the players providing shows of epic proportions, the 3 stream match experience, the lack of tension due to tournament environment... the perfect storm of chill. Shout out to all those involved man
Edit- btw, where would be a good place to provide them with positive feedback? =]
hm.. best way would be twitter "@redbullGAMING", or let Walshy know on kings of tin by messaging djwheat.
Uhh.. they wanted to have day9 quit the cast mid-game because it was time for them to wrap it up. Heard day9 trying to convince the people to let him finish the game, then he gets cut off at the end of the game.. just wow.
On October 02 2011 15:04 SKAR wrote: Uhh.. they wanted to have day9 quit the cast mid-game because it was time for them to wrap it up. Heard day9 trying to convince the people to let him finish the game, then he gets cut off at the end of the game.. just wow.
On October 02 2011 15:04 SKAR wrote: Uhh.. they wanted to have day9 quit the cast mid-game because it was time for them to wrap it up. Heard day9 trying to convince the people to let him finish the game, then he gets cut off at the end of the game.. just wow.
unfortunately, sc2 and day9 are there just to get views. doubt they treat it too seriously or with care.
On October 02 2011 11:26 Astro-Penguin wrote: Is anyone else feeling a little disgusted at the SC2 viewers attitude towards the Halo community/viewers? The chat is just littered with comments bashing Halo players, viewers, and the game it self. If I recall the SC2 fanbase actually boo'd some the Halo winners at one of the events, makes me sad that TL is being represented by these 4chan troll reminsecents. Honestly if you dont like the game thats fine, but I dont understand why people deem it okay to ruthlessly mock and hate on a game helping contribute to the growth of pro gaming.
The chat is terrible, but frankly the attitude was the same on both side when I checked the chat in the beginning.
On October 02 2011 18:43 lim1017 wrote: why couldnt they just have a seperate sc2 only stream?
if you go to the redbull lan website there is a list of streams, you can choose day9, tyler, white-ra, etc... the main stream shows whatever they decide to put on it. sometimes sc2 most of the time halo.
On October 01 2011 18:57 Zax19 wrote: Honestly, I feel like they're trying to get tournament-type of viewership while not paying any pricemoney, this is such a missed opportunity.
This is honestly not the case at all. Redbull lans have been going on for a while now. They are primarily for preparation for the Halo teams. They are now helping sc2 players out. Redbull does this to almost every person they sponsor. Walshy, and Status Quo are being helped out by Redbull. The fact that they are including sc2 this time around is great and maybe we'll see a redbull sponsored sc2 player soon.
I find it pretty weird to add a game for a LAN when Blizzard doesn't even have a LAN feature.
Loving the event so far though.
I'd say that they it comes down to organisation. All I see is a Halo stream full of chaotic shouting with one or two SC2 games every couple of hours. It has no obvious structure and why did I watch one game of qxc vs. Bomber when there are no consequences, it's just a regular game. I hope it's not a waste of time for the players but I was expecting a room full of couches with the progamers discussing something on the camera and then testing it in game, not just playing. If I don't see the learning process behind the games then the games have no value, there is no backstory. Going into every match I need to know what’s the goal, otherwise it’s just another regular game.
On October 01 2011 18:57 Zax19 wrote: Honestly, I feel like they're trying to get tournament-type of viewership while not paying any pricemoney, this is such a missed opportunity.
This is honestly not the case at all. Redbull lans have been going on for a while now. They are primarily for preparation for the Halo teams. They are now helping sc2 players out. Redbull does this to almost every person they sponsor. Walshy, and Status Quo are being helped out by Redbull. The fact that they are including sc2 this time around is great and maybe we'll see a redbull sponsored sc2 player soon.
I find it pretty weird to add a game for a LAN when Blizzard doesn't even have a LAN feature.
Loving the event so far though.
I'd say that they it comes down to organisation. All I see is a Halo stream full of chaotic shouting with one or two SC2 games every couple of hours. It has no obvious structure and why did I watch one game of qxc vs. Bomber when there are no consequences, it's just a regular game. I hope it's not a waste of time for the players but I was expecting a room full of couches with the progamers discussing something on the camera and then testing it in game, not just playing. If I don't see the learning process behind the games then the games have no value, there is no backstory. Going into every match I need to know what’s the goal, otherwise it’s just another regular game.
They are, but as it's mentioned above, this is the only one with VODs. I'm not here to hate on this, I just didn't get to see what I was hoping for (the type of content shows like "State of the Game" or "Inside the Game" should be about). It’s like taking ladder streaming to the next level, now there are many progamers talking about one particular game strategy, not just the streamer. I'm going to wait for VODs of the other streams.
I tried watching the vods, but it's really messy when sc2 and halo is all in the same stream. You have to kind of look around very carefully then if you manage to find a game you like you need to know where it starts etc. They should really give each thing a separate vod stream for these two games.
On October 03 2011 05:40 PSIKevin wrote: Okay so i'm confused. Was there a "winner?" Because I can't find any info anywhere, what matches were played/was there a bracket?
i cant believe people are still asking this lol. this was not a tournament. this event is a practice facility that is being streamed for our amusement.
On October 03 2011 05:40 PSIKevin wrote: Okay so i'm confused. Was there a "winner?" Because I can't find any info anywhere, what matches were played/was there a bracket?
i cant believe people are still asking this lol. this was not a tournament. this event is a practice facility that is being streamed for our amusement.
There's no need to be an asshole about it. I was wondering because if there is no cash prize then why would somebody like Bomber fly over there just for a weekend of practice?
On October 03 2011 05:40 PSIKevin wrote: Okay so i'm confused. Was there a "winner?" Because I can't find any info anywhere, what matches were played/was there a bracket?
i cant believe people are still asking this lol. this was not a tournament. this event is a practice facility that is being streamed for our amusement.
There's no need to be an asshole about it. I was wondering because if there is no cash prize then why would somebody like Bomber fly over there just for a weekend of practice?
For the free vacation provided by red bull for him and his coach.
On October 03 2011 07:57 BlazingSonic wrote: When does this thing start again? The Stream tells me it´s going live at 5pm, but i don´t know when that actually is.
PS: Is there pricemoney or something? Or is it just for fun?
On October 03 2011 07:57 BlazingSonic wrote: When does this thing start again? The Stream tells me it´s going live at 5pm, but i don´t know when that actually is.
PS: Is there pricemoney or something? Or is it just for fun?
bomber is actually there? I haven't been watching, but it's hard to believe he would purposefully jetlag himself right before an important GSL match against MVP...
On October 03 2011 05:40 PSIKevin wrote: Okay so i'm confused. Was there a "winner?" Because I can't find any info anywhere, what matches were played/was there a bracket?
i cant believe people are still asking this lol. this was not a tournament. this event is a practice facility that is being streamed for our amusement.
There's no need to be an asshole about it. I was wondering because if there is no cash prize then why would somebody like Bomber fly over there just for a weekend of practice?
i was hardly being an asshole. the answer to your question is on almost every page of this thread including the op
Ret vs Minigun on Metalopolis. Do you think ret could of done a base race with the roach ultras at end of the game? would that of been a good decision? I had a similar game other day of decision, go for a base race or engage army at a point where i wont beat it. i went for army and i keep thinking after what would of happened if i went for base race.
I think Day9 inadvertently hit on a killer formula for casting having both Tyler and Sheth co-cast the Ret vs Minigun matches. Having a well spoken generalist like Day9 be able to keep the cast interesting while the two pros gives fantastic insight into the game made it one of the most enjoyable casts I've ever watched.
This event was amazing and has gotten even more amazing over the weekend. The stream quality went up, we got some awesome White-ra videos of the event and a handful of amazing interviews. Plus there were some incredible games coming out of it, and some amazing Tyler/Sheth/Day9 casting a PvZ that was incredibly deep strategically. And now a bunch of White-ra games (vs Minigun and vs Ret) to close out the night, so good.
Really hope they do some more of these, and preferably with some better promotion. There were only 4-5K viewers a lot of the day and judging solely on the quality of the event, they could easily hold down more than that.
On October 03 2011 13:30 geno wrote: This event was amazing and has gotten even more amazing over the weekend. The stream quality went up, we got some awesome White-ra videos of the event and a handful of amazing interviews. Plus there were some incredible games coming out of it, and some amazing Tyler/Sheth/Day9 casting a PvZ that was incredibly deep strategically. And now a bunch of White-ra games (vs Minigun and vs Ret) to close out the night, so good.
Really hope they do some more of these, and preferably with some better promotion. There were only 4-5K viewers a lot of the day and judging solely on the quality of the event, they could easily hold down more than that.
I completly agree and they should make easier for ppl to find stream. A lot of ppl were complaining about they show halo on the main stage instead of sc2 because they were watching on twitch or on TL but they didn't even know there was a stream only for sc2 :\
Will there be SC2 only stream VODs? I hope so because there was such good content last night on the SC2 stream, like Tyler and Sheth commentating the Minigun vs Ret games, etc.
On October 04 2011 10:07 Catchafire2000 wrote: Nothing wrong w/ looking professional if it's THE main thing you are doing. Destiny is awesome for doing wtf he wants to do.
The problem is that look is horribly "IT guy" if you know what I mean (wearing a tie does not make you look professional)... but the bar isn't set very high for pro gamers. Hope everyone there does well.
Now hangover from energy drink binges had mostly passed, here are some thoughts from one of the lucky fools that attend Red Bull LAN.
Now That's a LAN
If we disregard, for a moment - the Formula 1 next to Tyler, the catering, the massage therapists in the screening room - this event encapsulated the roots of esports: a few nerds under one roof, enjoying the games and the company of friends. The venue is a tad bigger, but the air there was not unlike those grade-school lan parties I used to frequent. Sure, these are all the top professionals and gaming pays their bills, but when it gets down to it, they're just here for the love of the game.
Training for StarCraft is serious business
Despite attending as White-Ra's guest, my only interaction with Mr Special Tactic was a gift from Europe and a quick trip to the training table. Unlike what many assumed in the TL thread, the Pros did took every advantage of the training opportunity from 1 till 11. Besides dinner and snacks, the Pros spent almost all their time either at their training station or crowded around another's practice. Despite being surrounded by pros, other guests and I rarely had a chance to chat with them. That's a good thing.
Halo Pros are different folks
Photo: Red Bull
Even for an uninitiated like me, I could tell that the Halo pros were playing with the same intensity as if it was the MLG finals. On the other hand, the StarCraft pros were there to learn. They crowd around Bomber to watch how his games unfold; qxc would tell Minigun to cheese him left, right, and center so his macro game can be tested properly; White-Ra would refuse to play on stream unless Day9 gives him a specific match-up. I am not too sure which method is better or worse, for the pros and for the audience, but it certainly points to differences in mentality behind these two eSports.
Oh, another cultural difference - I was there for most of Sunday, but I never seen a StarCraft Pro that utilized the massage table, yet the Halo Pros would line up for "the Russian one." Go figures~
Working for Red Bull is awesome
Every employee I met there reiterated this, and I don't think it's forced. While it was Sunday, quite a few employees were lounging around the offices, and they weren't there to work. If my office resembles a skate park, or my cubicle sits next to a Formula 1, or I can walk a few steps and watch White-Ra play, I'd hang around too. Lucky bastards.
Red Bull is serious about eSports
Sam, Red Bull's gaming guy, is high Masters and talks about StarCraft with the same intensity and enthusiasm as any TeamLiquid veteran. Red Bull didn't just haphazardly added StarCraft to their boot camp line-up - they wanted to get involved and planned for a long time. Probably the best news of all, Red Bull will get more involved in StarCraft very soon. Sam was quite excited, but all he was willing to say was,
Big things are coming!
It was fun and I look forward to what Sam has planned for us.
On October 03 2011 18:53 tofubeans wrote: Will there be SC2 only stream VODs? I hope so because there was such good content last night on the SC2 stream, like Tyler and Sheth commentating the Minigun vs Ret games, etc.
yeahhh. i'm really looking for this right now. there was like no major attention given to this so i didn't bother planning around it and now i regret it. i want VODs so bad, moreso than replays since a lot of people seem to be talking about how good the commentary was both from day9 and the players
On October 04 2011 23:33 Namu wrote: What happened to the replays? I checked a couple of days ago when this was still going on, and they were available.. now they're not? a bit confused..
Day9 said that since it was a training even that it is up to the pros that attended if they want to release replays or not.
although about the possible RedBull SC2 team. this i am torn about...... on one hand it helps the pro SC2 scene a LOT... but i also know just HOW bad for u redbull really is and can't say I'm a fan of it being promoted
Hi, I have found the main stream vod's on http://www.twitch.tv/redbullgaming but I was hoping someone knew where i could find just the sc2 stream vods. Any help is much appreciated
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" else it would've been more like "WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!?!?!".
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