On October 11 2011 01:05 CellTech wrote:
I dont want to belittle Stephano's accomllishments, he did amazing.
But his standard ling/infestor/ultra play seems like it just spooked Terrans because theyre not used to it. Think DRG's mass counter style. It feels like if you give SlayerS a month and stephanos replay pack theyll just come up with an answer.

Regardless, hes a beast

You can say this about any strategy any player does in league games.
Anyone can have any style, and if you give SlayerS a month, they'll always be an answer to stop it.
....until a new play style unleashes.

Lamphead

Canada241 Posts

October 10 2011 17:37 GMT

#883

Stephano actually played many different styles, he just probably figured there was no point in stopping a style that stomped STC in the first two games..would you stop something that was working?

suejak

Japan545 Posts

October 11 2011 22:32 GMT

#884

On October 10 2011 23:40 Fruitme wrote:
He started playing 6 months ago
He only play 3 hours a day
He only play ladder

That is freaking amazing

You're joking, right...?

He's played for over a year: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Stephano

Dalguno

United States2446 Posts

October 11 2011 22:35 GMT

#885

On October 12 2011 07:32 suejak wrote:

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You're joking, right...?

He's played for over a year: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Stephano

As well as playing War3 since he was 14.

VoirDire

Sweden1923 Posts

October 11 2011 22:39 GMT

#886

On October 10 2011 23:40 Fruitme wrote:
He started playing 6 months ago
He only play 3 hours a day
He only play ladder

That is freaking amazing

Wrong in all accounts. Stop spreading misinformation.

He's worked hard to get where he is and he deserves it, let's not take that away from him.

Toxi78

966 Posts

October 11 2011 22:40 GMT

#887

people are dumb and talk without knowing, this is so annoying to read, gosh.
stephano was pretty much the godfather of ling bling muta in euro before mixing up his style, he never went to T3 back then, and just slaughtered EVERY TERRAN with t2 ling baneling muta, he was actually really SCARY.
but now he just feels like this other style is better.

Cruncharoo

United States136 Posts

October 11 2011 22:47 GMT

#888

On October 11 2011 01:39 Linz wrote:
Looks like ladder means something after all ;-)

What? Correlation =! causation

United States6173 Posts

October 11 2011 22:48 GMT

#889

On October 12 2011 07:47 Cruncharoo wrote:

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What? Correlation =! causation

Correlation doesn't NECESSITATE causation. They can still be related... -_-

DoomsVille

Canada4885 Posts

October 11 2011 22:49 GMT

#890

Does Stephano really seem like the type of player that is a 1 trick pony?

Of course he can play other styles. Even if he is weaker with others, he can certainly improve. He did play muta/ling/bane at IPL3 as well, so it's not like he only knows ling/infestor/ultra.

The scariest thing about his play is how easily he beat TheStC (who is fairly strong in TvZ). I mean, in the game on Antiga, TheStC went a very greedy and economical quick third and Stephano let him get away with it. TheStC was up a base for a long period of time. Despite that, Stephano was still able to close the gap and get to a point where he was even in that game. And in the other 3 games, TheStC never touched him.

He didn't just beat TheStC. He outplayed him every step of the way.

Armada Vega

Canada120 Posts

October 11 2011 23:26 GMT

#891

Well to be fair, I think TheStC isn't even code A right now? I think MMA could have beat'n Stephano, since Stephano's openings have always been "heavy helion" susceptible.

Where as FXO.Lucky seemed to have a much more scary ZvT style. The quick heavy roach (2-base pressure into 3rd base) was a lot more effective, Lucky played ZvT like he was playing ZvP. But Lucky's ZvZ doesn't seem to be his strong point.

I am curious how well Stephano could actually do against top Code A Protoss and terran or even Code S. But I don't see TheStC as a good example of whether or not Stephano could compete at top level in Korea. From watching terrans in this season of GSL(october), TheStC's TvZ was lackluster and kind of weak compared to Code S Terrans, and reaction time and micro were less than what I'm use to seeing from Korean Terrans. I definitely view Stephano as 1 of the best foreigners now though, and maybe the best foreigner Zerg. Dimaga was my favorite, but Stephano stands above the rest.

koolaid1990

831 Posts

October 11 2011 23:28 GMT

#892

lol i remember when he got owned by sen's offrace in EG cup.
i was like this guy is bad...
hes pretty good now though

Vei

United States2845 Posts

October 11 2011 23:59 GMT

#893

that is unreal

ilovelings

Argentina776 Posts

October 12 2011 00:52 GMT

#894

A constant swarm of 3/3 lings and 3/5 ultras ruins everyones day. If you add full usage of infestor to that, you get zerged out of the game. He did impressive, and he used various builds. He's good.

Vari

United States532 Posts

October 12 2011 00:56 GMT

#895

the thing that amazed me about stephano's play was he had periods of time where he was a base behind terran, did nothing direct to punish it, and still came out ahead

he's a BEAST. this is maybe the most applicable use of the term.

he made me want to play zerg because they look so much less fragile in his hands.

what he was able to do on two base in some of the games was breathtaking.

KDot2

United States1213 Posts

October 12 2011 00:59 GMT

#896

On October 12 2011 07:48 PH wrote:

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Correlation doesn't NECESSITATE causation. They can still be related... -_-

good point .... ladder is similar to APM in that respect

justBunneh

Canada38 Posts

October 12 2011 12:40 GMT

#897

I was surprised at Stephano during IPL. I never watched him before and I saw his game vs Violet. I honestly thought Violet would win during the beginning of the game because he would be ahead, but somehow stephano just comes up on top O_O blows my mind xD