On September 27 2011 18:20 ZorBa.G wrote: What gets me here is "if" Stepahno wasn't to get through the open brackets, everyone would just get up on their high horse and say "yeh I said he wouldn't do well."
Everyone needs to remember, it's just one tourney. You could be the best player in the world, but if your not in the right mindset or just having a bad day (which we all have) that can cost you the tournament. Not because your a "bad" player. Personally, I think Stephano is going to rip shit up (although I freaking hate zerg!) and good luck to him.
Fact is, wether anyone likes it or not... his ladder stats are quiet a feat! It already says that hes a formiddable opponent.
He had already proved that he has skills (ladder). But ladder and tournament are two very different things!
On September 27 2011 18:20 ZorBa.G wrote: What gets me here is "if" Stepahno wasn't to get through the open brackets, everyone would just get up on their high horse and say "yeh I said he wouldn't do well."
Everyone needs to remember, it's just one tourney. You could be the best player in the world, but if your not in the right mindset or just having a bad day (which we all have) that can cost you the tournament. Not because your a "bad" player. Personally, I think Stephano is going to rip shit up (although I freaking hate zerg!) and good luck to him.
Fact is, wether anyone likes it or not... his ladder stats are quiet a feat! It already says that hes a formiddable opponent.
He had already proved that he has skills (ladder). But ladder and tournament are two very different things!
You don't win a prize for doing well on ladder.
Although, his opponents might feel intimidated from the strong stats. It's amazing what you can achieve when you opponent is off mentally.
You win respect, and respect goes a long way. How many more viewers did he get after people started reading this thread and started saying "damn I should watch his stream to see how he is doing this". More viewers means he can also collect more revenue now when he runs commercials. More money might mean he can devote more attention to Starcraft.
Hell even if it doesn't earn him anything financially he still has a larger following of fans cheering him on now because of the respect he gained through ladder.
I don't understand why would anyone claim this isn't highly respectable. You can't bash everything by saying "it's just ladder". So, it's 66-2 in ladder, something I didn't think was possible in SC2 that has a lot of randomness to it, some things can't be scouted and such. Will be great to see how he does in some major tournaments. It was relatively close already in assembly summer in august (2-3 semi vs dimaga who won it, 3-0 vs bratok for 3rd) so I'd already say he isn't just a "internet hero".
On September 27 2011 22:55 Ouga wrote: I don't understand why would anyone claim this isn't highly respectable. You can't bash everything by saying "it's just ladder". So, it's 66-2 in ladder, something I didn't think was possible in SC2 that has a lot of randomness to it, some things can't be scouted and such. Will be great to see how he does in some major tournaments. It was relatively close already in assembly summer in august (2-3 semi vs dimaga who won it, 3-0 vs bratok for 3rd) so I'd already say he isn't just a "internet hero".
On September 27 2011 22:12 Gotmog wrote: i screened through several last pages, and didn't find anything. Where did the streak end ? Or what is the current standing ?
I'm not 100% sure, but i think he called it a night when he was 62-2 (or 66-2??)... Since then he is sick and apparently in hospital right now.
On September 27 2011 06:42 tuho12345 wrote: Go watch Ruyng vs Stephano BO 5 series and tell me this kid is one of the best Zerg in the world? I call it BS. Terrible from micro to macro to decision making lol. He's not stand out of all the foreigners at all to me
Yeah, I hate to bash on players, but I can't help but feel stephano is only being spotlighted at all just merely because of the coL and Mill. controversy.
I think he still needs to prove himself as a player, and until he starts placing super high in some big tourneys, I'm still gunna be skeptical.
Agreed. I've never heard of him till the whole coL and Mill. controversy started. Now it's all about Stephano and how good he is and how he's gonna own everyone.
Maybe for Americans, but he's been pretty hyped since pre-hsc3 in the European scene.
What does me being american have anything to do with it? Not like I get my information from some american only site that only showcases Idra/Huk/QXC etc. I go to teamliquid for all my SC info and I pay attention to all the major LANS. He's yet to make any kinda of name for himself at a major tournament and I'll gladly bite my tongue if he stomps through people offline as good as he does online.
I dont know why people keep saying Stephano haven't proved himself at Lans
He placed 5th in HSC 3 beatign Huk 2-0 Lost to Thorzain and MC
His group:
1. Stephano 3-0 2. HuK 2-1 3. iNSoLeNCE 1-2 4. NarutO 0-3
Then he lost to Thorzain 2-0 got into losers bracket and did this:
Jinro 0 Stephano 2
Stephano 2 XlorD 0
White-Ra 1 Stephano 2
MC 2 Stephano 0
He placed 5th together with Idra. This was his first Lan ever and he did all this being an amateur player.
These are some of the biggest Lans in Europe. If this isn't proving himself at Lans then 90% of all pro sc2 players haven't proved them self either
So plz stop with this sillyness
Ok I'll give in he did good. But some of the players he beat I wouldn't put too much faith in. A slumping Jinro, some no names, and Brat_OK is very overrated imo.
You win respect, and respect goes a long way. How many more viewers did he get after people started reading this thread and started saying "damn I should watch his stream to see how he is doing this". More viewers means he can also collect more revenue now when he runs commercials. More money might mean he can devote more attention to Starcraft.
Hell even if it doesn't earn him anything financially he still has a larger following of fans cheering him on now because of the respect he gained through ladder.
And you may also win some invitation to all those "invitational events" where you almost always see the same people even if they're not doing well those days.
i'm pretty sure demuslim did something similar multiple times, not saying this isn't impressive but I'd like to see what he can do on the korean ladder.
On September 27 2011 06:42 tuho12345 wrote: Go watch Ruyng vs Stephano BO 5 series and tell me this kid is one of the best Zerg in the world? I call it BS. Terrible from micro to macro to decision making lol. He's not stand out of all the foreigners at all to me
Yeah, I hate to bash on players, but I can't help but feel stephano is only being spotlighted at all just merely because of the coL and Mill. controversy.
I think he still needs to prove himself as a player, and until he starts placing super high in some big tourneys, I'm still gunna be skeptical.
Agreed. I've never heard of him till the whole coL and Mill. controversy started. Now it's all about Stephano and how good he is and how he's gonna own everyone.
Maybe for Americans, but he's been pretty hyped since pre-hsc3 in the European scene.
What does me being american have anything to do with it? Not like I get my information from some american only site that only showcases Idra/Huk/QXC etc. I go to teamliquid for all my SC info and I pay attention to all the major LANS. He's yet to make any kinda of name for himself at a major tournament and I'll gladly bite my tongue if he stomps through people offline as good as he does online.
I dont know why people keep saying Stephano haven't proved himself at Lans
He placed 5th in HSC 3 beatign Huk 2-0 Lost to Thorzain and MC
His group:
1. Stephano 3-0 2. HuK 2-1 3. iNSoLeNCE 1-2 4. NarutO 0-3
Then he lost to Thorzain 2-0 got into losers bracket and did this:
Jinro 0 Stephano 2
Stephano 2 XlorD 0
White-Ra 1 Stephano 2
MC 2 Stephano 0
He placed 5th together with Idra. This was his first Lan ever and he did all this being an amateur player.
These are some of the biggest Lans in Europe. If this isn't proving himself at Lans then 90% of all pro sc2 players haven't proved them self either
So plz stop with this sillyness
Ok I'll give in he did good. But some of the players he beat I wouldn't put too much faith in. A slumping Jinro, some no names, and Brat_OK is very overrated imo.
On September 27 2011 06:44 wei2coolman wrote: [quote] Yeah, I hate to bash on players, but I can't help but feel stephano is only being spotlighted at all just merely because of the coL and Mill. controversy.
I think he still needs to prove himself as a player, and until he starts placing super high in some big tourneys, I'm still gunna be skeptical.
Agreed. I've never heard of him till the whole coL and Mill. controversy started. Now it's all about Stephano and how good he is and how he's gonna own everyone.
Maybe for Americans, but he's been pretty hyped since pre-hsc3 in the European scene.
What does me being american have anything to do with it? Not like I get my information from some american only site that only showcases Idra/Huk/QXC etc. I go to teamliquid for all my SC info and I pay attention to all the major LANS. He's yet to make any kinda of name for himself at a major tournament and I'll gladly bite my tongue if he stomps through people offline as good as he does online.
I dont know why people keep saying Stephano haven't proved himself at Lans
He placed 5th in HSC 3 beatign Huk 2-0 Lost to Thorzain and MC
His group:
1. Stephano 3-0 2. HuK 2-1 3. iNSoLeNCE 1-2 4. NarutO 0-3
Then he lost to Thorzain 2-0 got into losers bracket and did this:
Jinro 0 Stephano 2
Stephano 2 XlorD 0
White-Ra 1 Stephano 2
MC 2 Stephano 0
He placed 5th together with Idra. This was his first Lan ever and he did all this being an amateur player.
These are some of the biggest Lans in Europe. If this isn't proving himself at Lans then 90% of all pro sc2 players haven't proved them self either
So plz stop with this sillyness
Ok I'll give in he did good. But some of the players he beat I wouldn't put too much faith in. A slumping Jinro, some no names, and Brat_OK is very overrated imo.
On September 27 2011 18:20 ZorBa.G wrote: What gets me here is "if" Stepahno wasn't to get through the open brackets, everyone would just get up on their high horse and say "yeh I said he wouldn't do well."
Everyone needs to remember, it's just one tourney. You could be the best player in the world, but if your not in the right mindset or just having a bad day (which we all have) that can cost you the tournament. Not because your a "bad" player. Personally, I think Stephano is going to rip shit up (although I freaking hate zerg!) and good luck to him.
Fact is, wether anyone likes it or not... his ladder stats are quiet a feat! It already says that hes a formiddable opponent.
He had already proved that he has skills (ladder). But ladder and tournament are two very different things!
I don't buy this.. if you are really that great then win some LANs korean style, no buts, no ifs.. just show pure and plain domination.. Happy had a 90% win rate in the previous ladder season and won a lot of online tournaments too... he's a good player but he didn't do shit when playing on LANs, hence he didn't prove nothing other than being a ladder hero.
DRG was a ladder monster......So was many of the top koreans... even though ladder means something less in EU than in KR, it is one of the ONLY reliable way to test a player's skill besides tournament results.
On September 26 2011 11:12 StarVe wrote:Look at his post history, he's a troll, and an entertaining one, too. He thinks the top players in the world are machine, drewbie, catz, axslav, strifecro, moonglade, lzgamer and protech.
So what, we mock someone because he has other opinions ? Not in my book.
Would you mock someone who thinks Gilbert areanas is better then Michael Jordan? Would you at least educate them as to why you think their opinion is in the minority? Comon these players arn't even close to top tier at this moment. I'm not someone who mocks others but I will tell you why I think your opinion is incorrect or straight up delusional. I'm pretty sure if I asked him why he considers CATZ(example) to be top tier he would either not have a good reason or is straight up delusional as to how CATZ compares to others who are above him on the ladder currently.
On September 27 2011 06:42 tuho12345 wrote: Go watch Ruyng vs Stephano BO 5 series and tell me this kid is one of the best Zerg in the world? I call it BS. Terrible from micro to macro to decision making lol. He's not stand out of all the foreigners at all to me
Yeah, I hate to bash on players, but I can't help but feel stephano is only being spotlighted at all just merely because of the coL and Mill. controversy.
I think he still needs to prove himself as a player, and until he starts placing super high in some big tourneys, I'm still gunna be skeptical.
Agreed. I've never heard of him till the whole coL and Mill. controversy started. Now it's all about Stephano and how good he is and how he's gonna own everyone.
Maybe for Americans, but he's been pretty hyped since pre-hsc3 in the European scene.
What does me being american have anything to do with it? Not like I get my information from some american only site that only showcases Idra/Huk/QXC etc. I go to teamliquid for all my SC info and I pay attention to all the major LANS. He's yet to make any kinda of name for himself at a major tournament and I'll gladly bite my tongue if he stomps through people offline as good as he does online.
I dont know why people keep saying Stephano haven't proved himself at Lans
He placed 5th in HSC 3 beatign Huk 2-0 Lost to Thorzain and MC
His group:
1. Stephano 3-0 2. HuK 2-1 3. iNSoLeNCE 1-2 4. NarutO 0-3
Then he lost to Thorzain 2-0 got into losers bracket and did this:
Jinro 0 Stephano 2
Stephano 2 XlorD 0
White-Ra 1 Stephano 2
MC 2 Stephano 0
He placed 5th together with Idra. This was his first Lan ever and he did all this being an amateur player.
These are some of the biggest Lans in Europe. If this isn't proving himself at Lans then 90% of all pro sc2 players haven't proved them self either
So plz stop with this sillyness
Ok I'll give in he did good. But some of the players he beat I wouldn't put too much faith in. A slumping Jinro, some no names, and Brat_OK is very overrated imo.
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