It's funny so many people are arguing over this. I wonder what he would say if he read this thread. Something with life, please, and get in it I'd imagine.
On September 27 2011 06:42 tuho12345 wrote: Go watch Ruyng vs Stephano BO 5 series and tell me this kid is one of the best Zerg in the world? I call it BS. Terrible from micro to macro to decision making lol. He's not stand out of all the foreigners at all to me
Yeah, I hate to bash on players, but I can't help but feel stephano is only being spotlighted at all just merely because of the coL and Mill. controversy.
I think he still needs to prove himself as a player, and until he starts placing super high in some big tourneys, I'm still gunna be skeptical.
Agreed. I've never heard of him till the whole coL and Mill. controversy started. Now it's all about Stephano and how good he is and how he's gonna own everyone.
Maybe for Americans, but he's been pretty hyped since pre-hsc3 in the European scene.
What does me being american have anything to do with it? Not like I get my information from some american only site that only showcases Idra/Huk/QXC etc. I go to teamliquid for all my SC info and I pay attention to all the major LANS. He's yet to make any kinda of name for himself at a major tournament and I'll gladly bite my tongue if he stomps through people offline as good as he does online.
I dont know why people keep saying Stephano haven't proved himself at Lans
He placed 5th in HSC 3 beatign Huk 2-0 Lost to Thorzain and MC
His group:
1. Stephano 3-0 2. HuK 2-1 3. iNSoLeNCE 1-2 4. NarutO 0-3
Then he lost to Thorzain 2-0 got into losers bracket and did this:
Jinro 0 Stephano 2
Stephano 2 XlorD 0
White-Ra 1 Stephano 2
MC 2 Stephano 0
He placed 5th together with Idra. This was his first Lan ever and he did all this being an amateur player.
These are some of the biggest Lans in Europe. If this isn't proving himself at Lans then 90% of all pro sc2 players haven't proved them self either
So plz stop with this sillyness
Ok I'll give in he did good. But some of the players he beat I wouldn't put too much faith in. A slumping Jinro, some no names, and Brat_OK is very overrated imo.
On September 27 2011 06:44 wei2coolman wrote: [quote] Yeah, I hate to bash on players, but I can't help but feel stephano is only being spotlighted at all just merely because of the coL and Mill. controversy.
I think he still needs to prove himself as a player, and until he starts placing super high in some big tourneys, I'm still gunna be skeptical.
Agreed. I've never heard of him till the whole coL and Mill. controversy started. Now it's all about Stephano and how good he is and how he's gonna own everyone.
Maybe for Americans, but he's been pretty hyped since pre-hsc3 in the European scene.
What does me being american have anything to do with it? Not like I get my information from some american only site that only showcases Idra/Huk/QXC etc. I go to teamliquid for all my SC info and I pay attention to all the major LANS. He's yet to make any kinda of name for himself at a major tournament and I'll gladly bite my tongue if he stomps through people offline as good as he does online.
I dont know why people keep saying Stephano haven't proved himself at Lans
He placed 5th in HSC 3 beatign Huk 2-0 Lost to Thorzain and MC
His group:
1. Stephano 3-0 2. HuK 2-1 3. iNSoLeNCE 1-2 4. NarutO 0-3
Then he lost to Thorzain 2-0 got into losers bracket and did this:
Jinro 0 Stephano 2
Stephano 2 XlorD 0
White-Ra 1 Stephano 2
MC 2 Stephano 0
He placed 5th together with Idra. This was his first Lan ever and he did all this being an amateur player.
These are some of the biggest Lans in Europe. If this isn't proving himself at Lans then 90% of all pro sc2 players haven't proved them self either
So plz stop with this sillyness
Ok I'll give in he did good. But some of the players he beat I wouldn't put too much faith in. A slumping Jinro, some no names, and Brat_OK is very overrated imo.
On September 27 2011 07:02 Zooper31 wrote: [quote]
Agreed. I've never heard of him till the whole coL and Mill. controversy started. Now it's all about Stephano and how good he is and how he's gonna own everyone.
Maybe for Americans, but he's been pretty hyped since pre-hsc3 in the European scene.
What does me being american have anything to do with it? Not like I get my information from some american only site that only showcases Idra/Huk/QXC etc. I go to teamliquid for all my SC info and I pay attention to all the major LANS. He's yet to make any kinda of name for himself at a major tournament and I'll gladly bite my tongue if he stomps through people offline as good as he does online.
I dont know why people keep saying Stephano haven't proved himself at Lans
He placed 5th in HSC 3 beatign Huk 2-0 Lost to Thorzain and MC
His group:
1. Stephano 3-0 2. HuK 2-1 3. iNSoLeNCE 1-2 4. NarutO 0-3
Then he lost to Thorzain 2-0 got into losers bracket and did this:
Jinro 0 Stephano 2
Stephano 2 XlorD 0
White-Ra 1 Stephano 2
MC 2 Stephano 0
He placed 5th together with Idra. This was his first Lan ever and he did all this being an amateur player.
These are some of the biggest Lans in Europe. If this isn't proving himself at Lans then 90% of all pro sc2 players haven't proved them self either
So plz stop with this sillyness
Ok I'll give in he did good. But some of the players he beat I wouldn't put too much faith in. A slumping Jinro, some no names, and Brat_OK is very overrated imo.
On September 27 2011 07:31 Eee wrote: [quote] Maybe for Americans, but he's been pretty hyped since pre-hsc3 in the European scene.
What does me being american have anything to do with it? Not like I get my information from some american only site that only showcases Idra/Huk/QXC etc. I go to teamliquid for all my SC info and I pay attention to all the major LANS. He's yet to make any kinda of name for himself at a major tournament and I'll gladly bite my tongue if he stomps through people offline as good as he does online.
I dont know why people keep saying Stephano haven't proved himself at Lans
He placed 5th in HSC 3 beatign Huk 2-0 Lost to Thorzain and MC
His group:
1. Stephano 3-0 2. HuK 2-1 3. iNSoLeNCE 1-2 4. NarutO 0-3
Then he lost to Thorzain 2-0 got into losers bracket and did this:
Jinro 0 Stephano 2
Stephano 2 XlorD 0
White-Ra 1 Stephano 2
MC 2 Stephano 0
He placed 5th together with Idra. This was his first Lan ever and he did all this being an amateur player.
These are some of the biggest Lans in Europe. If this isn't proving himself at Lans then 90% of all pro sc2 players haven't proved them self either
So plz stop with this sillyness
Ok I'll give in he did good. But some of the players he beat I wouldn't put too much faith in. A slumping Jinro, some no names, and Brat_OK is very overrated imo.
On September 27 2011 07:31 Eee wrote: [quote] Maybe for Americans, but he's been pretty hyped since pre-hsc3 in the European scene.
What does me being american have anything to do with it? Not like I get my information from some american only site that only showcases Idra/Huk/QXC etc. I go to teamliquid for all my SC info and I pay attention to all the major LANS. He's yet to make any kinda of name for himself at a major tournament and I'll gladly bite my tongue if he stomps through people offline as good as he does online.
I dont know why people keep saying Stephano haven't proved himself at Lans
He placed 5th in HSC 3 beatign Huk 2-0 Lost to Thorzain and MC
His group:
1. Stephano 3-0 2. HuK 2-1 3. iNSoLeNCE 1-2 4. NarutO 0-3
Then he lost to Thorzain 2-0 got into losers bracket and did this:
Jinro 0 Stephano 2
Stephano 2 XlorD 0
White-Ra 1 Stephano 2
MC 2 Stephano 0
He placed 5th together with Idra. This was his first Lan ever and he did all this being an amateur player.
These are some of the biggest Lans in Europe. If this isn't proving himself at Lans then 90% of all pro sc2 players haven't proved them self either
So plz stop with this sillyness
Ok I'll give in he did good. But some of the players he beat I wouldn't put too much faith in. A slumping Jinro, some no names, and Brat_OK is very overrated imo.
BRAT_OK > like 95% of North American players. Its just people dont know how crazy/good he is
Because he's never made a splash in the international scene.
The people that matter know who bratok is and what he has done, thats all that needs to be said.
Point still stands.
You got no point, just because you pretty clueless about Brat_OK doesn't mean he isn't well known. Brat_OK has participated in every lan in Europe since BW and done very well.
Btw there is other countries in the world beside US that do alot of stuff in Esport you do realise that?
On September 27 2011 16:55 Zooper31 wrote: [quote]
What does me being american have anything to do with it? Not like I get my information from some american only site that only showcases Idra/Huk/QXC etc. I go to teamliquid for all my SC info and I pay attention to all the major LANS. He's yet to make any kinda of name for himself at a major tournament and I'll gladly bite my tongue if he stomps through people offline as good as he does online.
I dont know why people keep saying Stephano haven't proved himself at Lans
He placed 5th in HSC 3 beatign Huk 2-0 Lost to Thorzain and MC
His group:
1. Stephano 3-0 2. HuK 2-1 3. iNSoLeNCE 1-2 4. NarutO 0-3
Then he lost to Thorzain 2-0 got into losers bracket and did this:
Jinro 0 Stephano 2
Stephano 2 XlorD 0
White-Ra 1 Stephano 2
MC 2 Stephano 0
He placed 5th together with Idra. This was his first Lan ever and he did all this being an amateur player.
These are some of the biggest Lans in Europe. If this isn't proving himself at Lans then 90% of all pro sc2 players haven't proved them self either
So plz stop with this sillyness
Ok I'll give in he did good. But some of the players he beat I wouldn't put too much faith in. A slumping Jinro, some no names, and Brat_OK is very overrated imo.
BRAT_OK > like 95% of North American players. Its just people dont know how crazy/good he is
Because he's never made a splash in the international scene.
The people that matter know who bratok is and what he has done, thats all that needs to be said.
Point still stands.
bratok unknown ? you must be new here.
I never said he was unknown. I specifically said I knew who he was if you read the qoute river. I just think hes overrated. And you are one to talk about being new, you joined literally a month ago, I've been here since May of 09.
Btw there is other countries in the world beside US that do alot of stuff in Esport you do realise that?
Glad to see the american hate is still going strong because that has little to nothing to do with anything I'm talking about.
These are some of the biggest Lans in Europe. If this isn't proving himself at Lans then 90% of all pro sc2 players haven't proved them self either
So plz stop with this sillyness
Ok I'll give in he did good. But some of the players he beat I wouldn't put too much faith in. A slumping Jinro, some no names, and Brat_OK is very overrated imo.
These are some of the biggest Lans in Europe. If this isn't proving himself at Lans then 90% of all pro sc2 players haven't proved them self either
So plz stop with this sillyness
Ok I'll give in he did good. But some of the players he beat I wouldn't put too much faith in. A slumping Jinro, some no names, and Brat_OK is very overrated imo.
BRAT_OK > like 95% of North American players. Its just people dont know how crazy/good he is
Because he's never made a splash in the international scene.
The people that matter know who bratok is and what he has done, thats all that needs to be said.
Point still stands.
bratok unknown ? you must be new here.
I never said he was unknown. I specifically said I knew who he was if you read the qoute river. I just think hes overrated. And you are one to talk about being new, you joined literally a month ago, I've been here since May of 09.
Btw there is other countries in the world beside US that do alot of stuff in Esport you do realise that?
Glad to see the american hate is still going strong because that has little to nothing to do with anything I'm talking about.
To your first point, I'd say he's not given enough credit. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Brat_OK He has done more than Painuser and Incontrol combined, but he's never really talked about these days.
On September 27 2011 17:30 Zooper31 wrote: [quote]
Ok I'll give in he did good. But some of the players he beat I wouldn't put too much faith in. A slumping Jinro, some no names, and Brat_OK is very overrated imo.
BRAT_OK > like 95% of North American players. Its just people dont know how crazy/good he is
Because he's never made a splash in the international scene.
The people that matter know who bratok is and what he has done, thats all that needs to be said.
Point still stands.
bratok unknown ? you must be new here.
I never said he was unknown. I specifically said I knew who he was if you read the qoute river. I just think hes overrated.
Btw there is other countries in the world beside US that do alot of stuff in Esport you do realise that?
Glad to see the american hate is still going strong because that has little to nothing to do with anything I'm talking about.
Ahh the hate card, how cute. BTW this has nothing todo with hate just an observation from you previous post if you think Brat-OK is unknown
You guys threw the ignorant American card 1st so I'm not even gonna argue with you on that point. And again I'll point to my other posts where I say I know who he is.
To your first point, I'd say he's not given enough credit. Brat OK He has done more than Painuser and Incontrol combined, but he's never really talked about these days.
Agreed Painuser and Incontrol haven't shown many good results either.
On September 28 2011 10:15 canikizu wrote: This topic makes me remember Happy, who had like 90% win rate over 300 games or something. Even Day9 had a daily for him.
Happy's really good, second best terran on IM, behind MVP.
Isn't this topic about Stephano, not BratOK? Anyways, Stephano is playing incredibly well right now, ripping the ladder apart in "Happy" esque fashion.
And to the guy about, Empire.Happy fashion, not IMHappy fashion.
On September 27 2011 16:55 Zooper31 wrote: [quote]
What does me being american have anything to do with it? Not like I get my information from some american only site that only showcases Idra/Huk/QXC etc. I go to teamliquid for all my SC info and I pay attention to all the major LANS. He's yet to make any kinda of name for himself at a major tournament and I'll gladly bite my tongue if he stomps through people offline as good as he does online.
I dont know why people keep saying Stephano haven't proved himself at Lans
He placed 5th in HSC 3 beatign Huk 2-0 Lost to Thorzain and MC
His group:
1. Stephano 3-0 2. HuK 2-1 3. iNSoLeNCE 1-2 4. NarutO 0-3
Then he lost to Thorzain 2-0 got into losers bracket and did this:
Jinro 0 Stephano 2
Stephano 2 XlorD 0
White-Ra 1 Stephano 2
MC 2 Stephano 0
He placed 5th together with Idra. This was his first Lan ever and he did all this being an amateur player.
These are some of the biggest Lans in Europe. If this isn't proving himself at Lans then 90% of all pro sc2 players haven't proved them self either
So plz stop with this sillyness
Ok I'll give in he did good. But some of the players he beat I wouldn't put too much faith in. A slumping Jinro, some no names, and Brat_OK is very overrated imo.
BRAT_OK > like 95% of North American players. Its just people dont know how crazy/good he is
Because he's never made a splash in the international scene.
The people that matter know who bratok is and what he has done, thats all that needs to be said.
Point still stands.
You got no point, just because you pretty clueless about Brat_OK doesn't mean he isn't well known. Brat_OK has participated in every lan in Europe since BW and done very well.
Btw there is other countries in the world beside US that do alot of stuff in Esport you do realise that?
his point was that bratok is not well known on an international level. im sure if you asked any koreans about him as well as americans there would be just as much ignorance. the fact is he hasnt really won anything, and that's what it takes to get international acclaim. nobody is saying he is a bad player.
To your first point, I'd say he's not given enough credit. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Brat_OK He has done more than Painuser and Incontrol combined, but he's never really talked about these days.
look at what else iNcontroL and PainUser do for the community though. :/ eveyrone gives them so much shit for not doing well, but they do SO much more to promote SC2 and esports in general. theyre both hosts/casters, theyre both on various 'shows', and theyre both pro players. im sure they both do other stuff that im not mentioning as well.
also: about stephano, laddering is great, i hope he does extremely well at a larger LAN tournament soon. hopefully hell be at orlando :D
On September 28 2011 10:15 canikizu wrote: This topic makes me remember Happy, who had like 90% win rate over 300 games or something. Even Day9 had a daily for him.
Happy's really good, second best terran on IM, behind MVP.
He's talking about Empire.Happy who's Russian. That being said, they're both really good.
These are some of the biggest Lans in Europe. If this isn't proving himself at Lans then 90% of all pro sc2 players haven't proved them self either
So plz stop with this sillyness
Ok I'll give in he did good. But some of the players he beat I wouldn't put too much faith in. A slumping Jinro, some no names, and Brat_OK is very overrated imo.
BRAT_OK > like 95% of North American players. Its just people dont know how crazy/good he is
Because he's never made a splash in the international scene.
The people that matter know who bratok is and what he has done, thats all that needs to be said.
Point still stands.
You got no point, just because you pretty clueless about Brat_OK doesn't mean he isn't well known. Brat_OK has participated in every lan in Europe since BW and done very well.
Btw there is other countries in the world beside US that do alot of stuff in Esport you do realise that?
his point was that bratok is not well known on an international level. im sure if you asked any koreans about him as well as americans there would be just as much ignorance. the fact is he hasnt really won anything, and that's what it takes to get international acclaim. nobody is saying he is a bad player.
the people saying bratok is overated or hasnt won much internationaly theres legitimate reasons. he has been refused visas for quite a few events and also had a health problem, ulcers i think? hes actually one of the top top euro terrans
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