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IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
September 08 2011 20:41 GMT
#421
On September 09 2011 05:33 Slider954 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 05:17 Noktix wrote:
On September 09 2011 05:14 Angelbelow wrote:
On September 08 2011 22:45 pred470r wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:33 vanhio wrote:
EG doesnt need jinro. They already have 2 pretty good terrans. I hope the news is about saSe =)

Really? I can only think of Puma as being a good player and recently showing good results. Who's the other one you're talking about?


lol troll post?


Lol no? What has Demuslim done since the injury?

.....oh, nothing? Weird how somebody wouldn't consider him good then?



Hmm, what has Tom Brady done lately since he hurt his knee in 2008? Yet people still consider him the best QB in the NFL.


Aaron Rodgers is the best QB in the NFL.

Also, lol at the dude saying DeMuslim isn't that good. That is foolish talk.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
iRon aka bananajuice
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany124 Posts
September 08 2011 20:43 GMT
#422
could be elfi, cause he left virus recently, cause they couldnt pay his travels to the tourneys hes qualified for
MKP|MMA|NesTea|Leenock|MC|Stephano|Naama|DongRaeGu|Socke
Toxi78
Profile Joined May 2010
966 Posts
September 08 2011 20:45 GMT
#423
tod just said SaSe might join TSL.
MattyClutch
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States711 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 20:51:30
September 08 2011 20:47 GMT
#424
On September 09 2011 05:36 Slider954 wrote:
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On September 09 2011 05:34 MattyClutch wrote:
On September 08 2011 03:53 ketomai wrote:
On September 08 2011 03:52 Mereel wrote:
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EG.Jinro


"I'd rather quit starcraft than join EG -_-" ~Jinro on his stream chat.

Sounds interesting. I'm guessing some dignitas/mouz players might be moving around?


Seems a silly stance to take. Competition between the teams is a good thing. Players get more money, get to go to more events. It isn't even all bad for the team losing the player (though maybe I am being too class 1/2 full here). I was hoping the Huk drama might finally get Tyler motivated to really work towards winning a big event.


Then again it is his decision to make.


How is being loyal to a team being silly, or not making money the #1 priority silly?



I didn't mean to imply that team loyalty is a bad thing, sorry if I worded that poorly. I was talking more about the "I'd rather quit starcraft than" bit. It seems anti competitive and I would like to see esports grow. Like I said I kinda of hoped that would maybe be a spark for Tyler and maybe TL as a whole. Have them out chasing down sponsors. If we started to tilt to the other extreme of like just 2 rich teams with all the top players I would start learning more towards being loyal to teams - particularly the smaller / growing ones.


I hope that explains it better.
Nihn'kas Neehn
decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
September 08 2011 20:56 GMT
#425
Isn't it obvious?
iNcontroL arranged it all: the european terran player Nerchio is joining team EG because he won dreamhack summer. He also doesn't like the hellion change.
Noktix
Profile Joined May 2011
United States492 Posts
September 08 2011 21:09 GMT
#426
On September 09 2011 05:33 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 05:25 Noktix wrote:
On September 09 2011 05:21 Da-Muffinman wrote:
On September 09 2011 05:17 Noktix wrote:
On September 09 2011 05:14 Angelbelow wrote:
On September 08 2011 22:45 pred470r wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:33 vanhio wrote:
EG doesnt need jinro. They already have 2 pretty good terrans. I hope the news is about saSe =)

Really? I can only think of Puma as being a good player and recently showing good results. Who's the other one you're talking about?


lol troll post?


Lol no? What has Demuslim done since the injury?

.....oh, nothing? Weird how somebody wouldn't consider him good then?


His recent run in MLG was pretty impressive, 6th foreigner(counting Select as foreigner), 14th overall, from the open bracket, but hey, everybody can do that, thats nothing.


Sorry, didn't know 14th place at an MLG and being high ranked on ladder counted as "results" these days.

I'm not saying Demuslim is "bad", but you really cannot say he is good. By Korean standards he is completely off the map and by Foreigner standards he's a little above average.

Personally, i do not consider that good.


Man, usually I would not say anything here, but I thin DeMuslim is one of the nicest people there are and awesome to boot and your defense of your ignorant attack on his playing quality merits at least a little response.

Let us just check his history a bit. Oh, he broke his wrist. So he basically, for 3 months or the like, did not play any competitive Starcraft. That should put a dent in anyone' skill. Before his injury, he was one of the baddest ass Terrans in Europe taking third at IEM. Now he ran through the Open bracket and winning against big names like Tester, Ret, and TLO. He is tearing it up for EG in all the team matches and beat Rain to qualify for IEM. Not bad for someone who had his wrist broken and missed a large quantity of LAN's he otherwise would have played in.

I don't know who you think is good, maybe all you like to do is fairweather the top Koreans of a time, but as far as awesome foreigners go DeMuslim is one of them. He has so much skill and is just now catching up. You snort at 14th at MLG but that comes in ahead of people like Sheth and IdrA, and the Korean seeded Trickster. Maybe he is not S class, but he is better than most people, and I would definitely think he is good.


I'm not attacking the guy at all, i think he is a great person and i love watching his stream.

That being said, i stand by my point that i am not impressed with him skill-wise. Beating Tester is pretty impressive, yes....

But really, a Terran beating a Protoss these days, i'm not putting too much merit on that. It is my opinion, after all.
monXikk
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland742 Posts
September 08 2011 21:13 GMT
#427
EGiNcontroL Geoff Robinson
Today is a good day. EGMCS vs ItsGosu, ESEA vs iS (home of @zemotion ) , training, streaming.. and good team news MadMen is good btw

Tweet from iNc. Probably new member in EG.
yet another IdrA's #1 fan
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 08 2011 21:15 GMT
#428
God damn it Ret, please let it not be you
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
September 08 2011 21:16 GMT
#429
If it's an EG member then there best choice would be sase (assuming sase wants to stay in kr) because they will have Huk, Idra and puma there
Snitches get stiches
Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
September 08 2011 21:17 GMT
#430
On September 09 2011 06:15 ELA wrote:
God damn it Ret, please let it not be you


i would think there would be a bigger deal made of it if it was ret. like how when huk left there were murmurings from tl itself
Disciple....Top 3 control in Clarion County
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
September 08 2011 21:17 GMT
#431
plz Elfi get a real team, I want to see you pwn ^^.
SaSe fan club manager
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
September 08 2011 21:18 GMT
#432
On September 09 2011 06:15 ELA wrote:
God damn it Ret, please let it not be you


Why would it be ret? Did he say something?
Snitches get stiches
Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
September 08 2011 21:19 GMT
#433
what is that beard called anyway. The one that Idra/Machine/Jinro have.
ponyo.848
BatCat
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Austria630 Posts
September 08 2011 21:20 GMT
#434
On September 09 2011 06:19 Ponyo wrote:
what is that beard called anyway. The one that Idra/Machine/Jinro have.

the chinstrap?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
September 08 2011 21:24 GMT
#435
As an EG fan i dont ever want to see Jinro on EG. Two reasons, one good and one bad depending on whether or not youre a Jinro fan.

1. Jinro has declined too heavily. If EG is going to spend the money, they need strong players that are putting up results worthy of the contracts theyre getting. Jinro has also admitted to being burned out and not practicing as much (You can find this information in his fanclub from Jinro himself.)

2. Jinro is definitely the epitome of "Good." It would be weird if he were on EG. I believe that despite his lack of recent success and practice, he will inevitably bounce back, perhaps stronger then ever. When he does he should represent Liquid - because its just so damn fitting.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
September 08 2011 21:25 GMT
#436
On September 09 2011 05:33 Slider954 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2011 05:17 Noktix wrote:
On September 09 2011 05:14 Angelbelow wrote:
On September 08 2011 22:45 pred470r wrote:
On September 08 2011 21:33 vanhio wrote:
EG doesnt need jinro. They already have 2 pretty good terrans. I hope the news is about saSe =)

Really? I can only think of Puma as being a good player and recently showing good results. Who's the other one you're talking about?


lol troll post?


Lol no? What has Demuslim done since the injury?

.....oh, nothing? Weird how somebody wouldn't consider him good then?



Hmm, what has Tom Brady done lately since he hurt his knee in 2008? Yet people still consider him the best QB in the NFL.


Well...all he did last season was to put up better numbers than Manning has for 12 of his 13 years in the NFL.
Peyton Manning is no scrub so...yeah, I think you need a different example.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
Denizen[9]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States649 Posts
September 08 2011 21:26 GMT
#437
looking at carmac's pitchfork tweet. We need to think of people with names that have anything to do with pichforks, what does a pitchfork look like? an M, W maybe millenium's sign. also maybe they have a chinstrap with a line up the middle to look like a pitchfork, this is where we will find our answers
Jaedong, Baby | Idra, Marineking, Tester, Nada
Toxi78
Profile Joined May 2010
966 Posts
September 08 2011 21:30 GMT
#438
i know that EG approached ret after he won the european blizzard tournament.
antikk555
Profile Joined March 2011
85 Posts
September 08 2011 21:33 GMT
#439
EG sign Naniwa/Thorzain. Calling it now.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
September 08 2011 21:34 GMT
#440
On September 09 2011 06:30 Toxi78 wrote:
i know that EG approached ret after he won the european blizzard tournament.


I'm assuming Ret turned EG down?
Don't mind me
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