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finally, this little prick was hurting e-sports. (for real). can't have players like that on a professional e-sports organization.
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On September 04 2011 20:48 Corrik wrote:
On the other end, Major supposedly refused to play his placement games at MLG because he "was never going back again anyways".
That's what every player does. The ones who do turn up are probably just hoping none of the other guys turn up.
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On September 04 2011 20:47 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2011 20:41 HereticSaint wrote:On September 04 2011 20:38 Grettin wrote:On September 04 2011 20:32 HereticSaint wrote:On September 04 2011 20:24 SomeONEx wrote:On September 04 2011 20:17 namste wrote:On September 04 2011 20:16 SomeONEx wrote:On September 04 2011 19:46 sixjaxMajor wrote:
ok, first of all the only wrong thing i remember i did was doing the SEA Event and the WBC insident of MLG was more because he started trash talking in a middle of an active game,even tough its wrong and i shouldnt had done it , i did it and i cant change it, it was a mistake and wont happen again. Also i want to clear up some stuff they said i been asking for being realesed for over a month maybe longer since the first day i signed with sixjax they promised they would send me to korea as fast as possible, they apparently had a deal with IM about 2 months ago but it felt down, so i was dissapointed by that but they tried to find a new deal with another team , aka TSL which they basically said were inches to complete and felt again , made me to start doubting about ever making their making their promise right , the thing that made me the most mad was Last MLG when they send 0 players to MLG i asked for a reason and Evoli(team manager) asked the owner of sixjax but he apparently responded with wait a few days we have an annoucment to do, so i was kinda piss at that time than by my self i got in contact with NshoseoSAGE and after test games i was accepted in NSH house so i asked sixjax if they would willing to send me to korea and me staying in NSH for free(no food to pay rent or anyhthing), they said no and at that point i decided to leave and dont play for them anymore i told em i wouldnt accept anymore payments. What's up with your spelling, brah? He's so young!!! (and English isn't his native language so) I'm younger and English ain't my native language either. On-topic: I love Artosis and believe he has the best intentions but that doesn't mean it's fair to just tear apart Major immediately after his release from Sixjax, he clearly feels that he is a good player and wasn't getting supported sufficiently on the team he was on, he therefore chose to seek support elsewhere. Good for him. Hold on, am i getting this right, but are you blaming Artosis here a little bit? How do you know Artosis made the call here? I would assume that he didn't. Sorry if i understood you wrong. I don't know if you've been following Artosis' at all, I'm not going to claim I've been following him ridiculously closely or anything but I have to say whenever you heard him talk about Major he always kept going on and on about his huge potential and how he just needs to develop it. I'm just saying, to say that and not send him to any tournaments, then deny him going to Korea seems off. Maybe him going to Korea would directly conflict with plans the team has (and if they didn't promise Korea to him, then alright) but again it just seems a bit weird. I have been following Artosis, and you are right that Artosis has said plenty of times that Major is really talented and should develop his skills the best way possible. But I'm pretty sure that Artosis didn't make the call to not to send SixJax players to MLG or Major to Korea. Instead, the management of the team made the decision. They do what ever they want because they are controlling the team and the money. Artosis is just a _coach_.
I don't know why he'd be the coach and a sort of pseudo-spokesman/recruiter (maybe not pseudo-recruiter? I don't know exactly what goes on) for the team if they are not only going to neglect what their players want but also what their coaches think is best for their players.
Major wants to improve his game, he thinks Korea is the best chance for that. I'm not going to hold that against him even if I held every other little thing against him, I wish him the best of luck.
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On September 04 2011 20:46 HereticSaint wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2011 20:42 cheesemaster wrote:On September 04 2011 20:32 HereticSaint wrote:On September 04 2011 20:24 SomeONEx wrote:On September 04 2011 20:17 namste wrote:On September 04 2011 20:16 SomeONEx wrote:On September 04 2011 19:46 sixjaxMajor wrote:
ok, first of all the only wrong thing i remember i did was doing the SEA Event and the WBC insident of MLG was more because he started trash talking in a middle of an active game,even tough its wrong and i shouldnt had done it , i did it and i cant change it, it was a mistake and wont happen again. Also i want to clear up some stuff they said i been asking for being realesed for over a month maybe longer since the first day i signed with sixjax they promised they would send me to korea as fast as possible, they apparently had a deal with IM about 2 months ago but it felt down, so i was dissapointed by that but they tried to find a new deal with another team , aka TSL which they basically said were inches to complete and felt again , made me to start doubting about ever making their making their promise right , the thing that made me the most mad was Last MLG when they send 0 players to MLG i asked for a reason and Evoli(team manager) asked the owner of sixjax but he apparently responded with wait a few days we have an annoucment to do, so i was kinda piss at that time than by my self i got in contact with NshoseoSAGE and after test games i was accepted in NSH house so i asked sixjax if they would willing to send me to korea and me staying in NSH for free(no food to pay rent or anyhthing), they said no and at that point i decided to leave and dont play for them anymore i told em i wouldnt accept anymore payments. What's up with your spelling, brah? He's so young!!! (and English isn't his native language so) I'm younger and English ain't my native language either. Your proper spelling punctuation and spelling doesn't change the fact that you are posting garbage. No one cares how old you are and no one cares that you can spell and frankly anyone intelligent doesn't really care that major is fluently typing in English. On-topic: I love Artosis and believe he has the best intentions but that doesn't mean it's fair to just tear apart Major immediately after his release from Sixjax, he clearly feels that he is a good player and wasn't getting supported sufficiently on the team he was on, he therefore chose to seek support elsewhere. Good for him. Uhhh you realise that it wasnt artosis that made this announcement right? It was evoli the team manager. Im pretty sure artosis had absolutely nothing to do with this, and i hardly think that artosis gives 2 shits about either the WBC incident or the SEA incident. Artosis has mucho respect for Major and i doubt he would talk or treat him that way, if it were up to artosis major would certainly be in korea now. So, you are saying evoli is doing the exact opposite of what Artosis' potentially wants? I'm just saying theoretically, if so, looking at Sixjax as a whole right now with that in mind things ain't looking too good, that's all I'm saying and that's why I assumed otherwise.
Yes that is exactly what im saying, thats also why i said we will probably see an announcement soon "artosis released fromm sixjax"
Im pretty sure artosis did not agree with this decision as he has been trying to get major out to korea forever, and that is probably the reason he recruited major for the team in the first place.
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On September 04 2011 20:45 Talin wrote:IF what he says about deals with Korean teams is true, I'm going to side with MajOr on this one. It's pretty much public knowledge that his ambition was to go to Korea for a long time, and sixjax didn't even send him to MLG more than once. I can't see what progress could he make in sixjax to be honest. Show nested quote +On September 04 2011 20:22 Defacer wrote:
Feel free to elaborate, sir.
I freely admit that I don't know anything about sixjax. But I do know enough about business to know that developing a partnership with another business doesn't happen overnight, or even 3 to 4 months.
And quite frankly, Major has a reputation.
Gosh, the trend of overstating the business aspect of SC2 is getting worse by the day. -_- Sixjax has dudes that want to live in Korea, they pay Korean team X some money for them to stay in the house, if the money is appealing enough to team X they accept, otherwise they don't. Either way it comes down to offering the Korean teams terms they are happy with. It most certainly doesn't involve 3-4 months of negotiations (with 2 teams even) only to break down in the end. It's not a corporate merger.
No offense, but you don't know what you're talking about either. If all Sixjax wanted was to pay for room and board, they would have sent their team to hostel.
Straight up paying another team so they could be their roommates is a shitty deal.
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On September 04 2011 20:50 Spitmode wrote:
finally, this little prick was hurting e-sports. (for real). can't have players like that on a professional e-sports organization.
Yeah, post without reading the thread, idiot
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On September 04 2011 20:50 Spitmode wrote:
finally, this little prick was hurting e-sports. (for real). can't have players like that on a professional e-sports organization.
@_@... Calling people "little pricks" and claiming they're hurting e-sports yet providing no reason as to why is hurting esports...
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On September 04 2011 20:51 HereticSaint wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2011 20:47 Grettin wrote:On September 04 2011 20:41 HereticSaint wrote:On September 04 2011 20:38 Grettin wrote:On September 04 2011 20:32 HereticSaint wrote:On September 04 2011 20:24 SomeONEx wrote:On September 04 2011 20:17 namste wrote:On September 04 2011 20:16 SomeONEx wrote:On September 04 2011 19:46 sixjaxMajor wrote:
ok, first of all the only wrong thing i remember i did was doing the SEA Event and the WBC insident of MLG was more because he started trash talking in a middle of an active game,even tough its wrong and i shouldnt had done it , i did it and i cant change it, it was a mistake and wont happen again. Also i want to clear up some stuff they said i been asking for being realesed for over a month maybe longer since the first day i signed with sixjax they promised they would send me to korea as fast as possible, they apparently had a deal with IM about 2 months ago but it felt down, so i was dissapointed by that but they tried to find a new deal with another team , aka TSL which they basically said were inches to complete and felt again , made me to start doubting about ever making their making their promise right , the thing that made me the most mad was Last MLG when they send 0 players to MLG i asked for a reason and Evoli(team manager) asked the owner of sixjax but he apparently responded with wait a few days we have an annoucment to do, so i was kinda piss at that time than by my self i got in contact with NshoseoSAGE and after test games i was accepted in NSH house so i asked sixjax if they would willing to send me to korea and me staying in NSH for free(no food to pay rent or anyhthing), they said no and at that point i decided to leave and dont play for them anymore i told em i wouldnt accept anymore payments. What's up with your spelling, brah? He's so young!!! (and English isn't his native language so) I'm younger and English ain't my native language either. On-topic: I love Artosis and believe he has the best intentions but that doesn't mean it's fair to just tear apart Major immediately after his release from Sixjax, he clearly feels that he is a good player and wasn't getting supported sufficiently on the team he was on, he therefore chose to seek support elsewhere. Good for him. Hold on, am i getting this right, but are you blaming Artosis here a little bit? How do you know Artosis made the call here? I would assume that he didn't. Sorry if i understood you wrong. I don't know if you've been following Artosis' at all, I'm not going to claim I've been following him ridiculously closely or anything but I have to say whenever you heard him talk about Major he always kept going on and on about his huge potential and how he just needs to develop it. I'm just saying, to say that and not send him to any tournaments, then deny him going to Korea seems off. Maybe him going to Korea would directly conflict with plans the team has (and if they didn't promise Korea to him, then alright) but again it just seems a bit weird. I have been following Artosis, and you are right that Artosis has said plenty of times that Major is really talented and should develop his skills the best way possible. But I'm pretty sure that Artosis didn't make the call to not to send SixJax players to MLG or Major to Korea. Instead, the management of the team made the decision. They do what ever they want because they are controlling the team and the money. Artosis is just a _coach_. I don't know why he'd be the coach and a sort of pseudo-spokesman/recruiter (maybe not pseudo-recruiter? I don't know exactly what goes on) for the team if they are not only going to neglect what their players want but also what their coaches think is best for their players.
How hard it is to understand that the management, once again, decides what ever they want to do with the team and it's players. They might have asked Artosis what he thinks, Artosis might have said what they SHOULD do, but in the end, only the management decides what they will do.
Without any proof, it's stupid to blame or even drag Artosis into this.
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On September 04 2011 20:44 Bobster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2011 20:38 turdburgler wrote:On September 04 2011 20:24 SomeONEx wrote:On September 04 2011 20:17 namste wrote:On September 04 2011 20:16 SomeONEx wrote:On September 04 2011 19:46 sixjaxMajor wrote:
ok, first of all the only wrong thing i remember i did was doing the SEA Event and the WBC insident of MLG was more because he started trash talking in a middle of an active game,even tough its wrong and i shouldnt had done it , i did it and i cant change it, it was a mistake and wont happen again. Also i want to clear up some stuff they said i been asking for being realesed for over a month maybe longer since the first day i signed with sixjax they promised they would send me to korea as fast as possible, they apparently had a deal with IM about 2 months ago but it felt down, so i was dissapointed by that but they tried to find a new deal with another team , aka TSL which they basically said were inches to complete and felt again , made me to start doubting about ever making their making their promise right , the thing that made me the most mad was Last MLG when they send 0 players to MLG i asked for a reason and Evoli(team manager) asked the owner of sixjax but he apparently responded with wait a few days we have an annoucment to do, so i was kinda piss at that time than by my self i got in contact with NshoseoSAGE and after test games i was accepted in NSH house so i asked sixjax if they would willing to send me to korea and me staying in NSH for free(no food to pay rent or anyhthing), they said no and at that point i decided to leave and dont play for them anymore i told em i wouldnt accept anymore payments. What's up with your spelling, brah? He's so young!!! (and English isn't his native language so) I'm younger and English ain't my native language either. isn't* Now do Major's post please. :p Show nested quote +On September 04 2011 20:43 Defacer wrote:On September 04 2011 20:41 zeru wrote:On September 04 2011 20:39 turdburgler wrote:On September 04 2011 20:38 Defacer wrote:On September 04 2011 20:34 Uncultured wrote:
Major to EG IMO. He's too unprofessional for EG, to be frank. People think that IdrA and Huk have 'attitudes', but when have you ever heard of IdrA or Huk not doing something they said they were going to do, or being anything but appreciative of their team and management? They're actually very disciplined. 2 nights ago idra went to a concert he wasnt planning to go to forcing incontrol to take over his casting duties in the EGMC sup son But thats ok because idra finishes all tournaments he signs up and commits to. Except when he loses a game and forfeits an entire tournament because he's mad. What are you talking about? When did he ever 'forfeit a tournament'. TLOpen #22 Idra refused to play on and forfeited the semifinal after getting schooled by Nerchio in game 1.
LOL. I did not know that. That's kind of funny.
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EG would be a perfect fit for Major. Hope it happens.
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On September 04 2011 20:50 Jakkerr wrote:
If Major wouldn't fit on EG for being unproffesional, please kick Idra today.
Get Major as big a following as Idra. Then ask to kick him.
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On September 04 2011 20:45 Talin wrote:IF what he says about deals with Korean teams is true, I'm going to side with MajOr on this one. It's pretty much public knowledge that his ambition was to go to Korea for a long time, and sixjax didn't even send him to MLG more than once. I can't see what progress could he make in sixjax to be honest. Show nested quote +On September 04 2011 20:22 Defacer wrote:
Feel free to elaborate, sir.
I freely admit that I don't know anything about sixjax. But I do know enough about business to know that developing a partnership with another business doesn't happen overnight, or even 3 to 4 months.
And quite frankly, Major has a reputation.
Gosh, the trend of overstating the business aspect of SC2 is getting worse by the day. -_- Sixjax has dudes that want to live in Korea, they pay Korean team X some money for them to stay in the house, if the money is appealing enough to team X they accept, otherwise they don't. Either way it comes down to offering the Korean teams terms they are happy with. It most certainly doesn't involve 3-4 months of negotiations (with 2 teams even) only to break down in the end. It's not a corporate merger.
I'm in partial agreement with this post. Both sides (SJ and Major) failed to deliver on their promises.
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On September 04 2011 20:51 cheesemaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2011 20:46 HereticSaint wrote:On September 04 2011 20:42 cheesemaster wrote:On September 04 2011 20:32 HereticSaint wrote:On September 04 2011 20:24 SomeONEx wrote:On September 04 2011 20:17 namste wrote:On September 04 2011 20:16 SomeONEx wrote:On September 04 2011 19:46 sixjaxMajor wrote:
ok, first of all the only wrong thing i remember i did was doing the SEA Event and the WBC insident of MLG was more because he started trash talking in a middle of an active game,even tough its wrong and i shouldnt had done it , i did it and i cant change it, it was a mistake and wont happen again. Also i want to clear up some stuff they said i been asking for being realesed for over a month maybe longer since the first day i signed with sixjax they promised they would send me to korea as fast as possible, they apparently had a deal with IM about 2 months ago but it felt down, so i was dissapointed by that but they tried to find a new deal with another team , aka TSL which they basically said were inches to complete and felt again , made me to start doubting about ever making their making their promise right , the thing that made me the most mad was Last MLG when they send 0 players to MLG i asked for a reason and Evoli(team manager) asked the owner of sixjax but he apparently responded with wait a few days we have an annoucment to do, so i was kinda piss at that time than by my self i got in contact with NshoseoSAGE and after test games i was accepted in NSH house so i asked sixjax if they would willing to send me to korea and me staying in NSH for free(no food to pay rent or anyhthing), they said no and at that point i decided to leave and dont play for them anymore i told em i wouldnt accept anymore payments. What's up with your spelling, brah? He's so young!!! (and English isn't his native language so) I'm younger and English ain't my native language either. Your proper spelling punctuation and spelling doesn't change the fact that you are posting garbage. No one cares how old you are and no one cares that you can spell and frankly anyone intelligent doesn't really care that major is fluently typing in English. On-topic: I love Artosis and believe he has the best intentions but that doesn't mean it's fair to just tear apart Major immediately after his release from Sixjax, he clearly feels that he is a good player and wasn't getting supported sufficiently on the team he was on, he therefore chose to seek support elsewhere. Good for him. Uhhh you realise that it wasnt artosis that made this announcement right? It was evoli the team manager. Im pretty sure artosis had absolutely nothing to do with this, and i hardly think that artosis gives 2 shits about either the WBC incident or the SEA incident. Artosis has mucho respect for Major and i doubt he would talk or treat him that way, if it were up to artosis major would certainly be in korea now. So, you are saying evoli is doing the exact opposite of what Artosis' potentially wants? I'm just saying theoretically, if so, looking at Sixjax as a whole right now with that in mind things ain't looking too good, that's all I'm saying and that's why I assumed otherwise. Yes that is exactly what im saying, thats also why i said we will probably see an announcement soon "artosis released fromm sixjax" Im pretty sure artosis did not agree with this decision as he has been trying to get major out to korea forever, and that is probably the reason he recruited major for the team in the first place.
I respect that then, I didn't think such a thing happening but then again I never really followed Sixjax as a whole, more just Artosis and if that's all the case I think if anything this whole situation reflects poorly on Sixjax and not Major or Artosis.
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On September 04 2011 20:50 Spitmode wrote:
finally, this little prick was hurting e-sports. (for real). can't have players like that on a professional e-sports organization.
How was he actualy hurting esports? A few minor incidents? Some bad manner against another player? In real sports or otherwise when is a player trash talking another player actually bad for bussiness ?
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hope NSH kicks him out asap. We all know its gonna happen, I'd be glad if it happened sooner rather than later.
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On September 04 2011 20:54 Denzil wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2011 20:50 Jakkerr wrote:
If Major wouldn't fit on EG for being unproffesional, please kick Idra today. Get Major as big a following as Idra. Then ask to kick him.
Or have Major play in Korea 12 hours a day for two years.
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On September 04 2011 20:57 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2011 20:54 Denzil wrote:On September 04 2011 20:50 Jakkerr wrote:
If Major wouldn't fit on EG for being unproffesional, please kick Idra today. Get Major as big a following as Idra. Then ask to kick him. Or have Major play in Korea 12 hours a day for two years.
he was a training partner for bigger names than idra back in sc1, try again
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On September 04 2011 20:53 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2011 20:51 HereticSaint wrote:On September 04 2011 20:47 Grettin wrote:On September 04 2011 20:41 HereticSaint wrote:On September 04 2011 20:38 Grettin wrote:On September 04 2011 20:32 HereticSaint wrote:On September 04 2011 20:24 SomeONEx wrote:On September 04 2011 20:17 namste wrote:On September 04 2011 20:16 SomeONEx wrote:On September 04 2011 19:46 sixjaxMajor wrote:
ok, first of all the only wrong thing i remember i did was doing the SEA Event and the WBC insident of MLG was more because he started trash talking in a middle of an active game,even tough its wrong and i shouldnt had done it , i did it and i cant change it, it was a mistake and wont happen again. Also i want to clear up some stuff they said i been asking for being realesed for over a month maybe longer since the first day i signed with sixjax they promised they would send me to korea as fast as possible, they apparently had a deal with IM about 2 months ago but it felt down, so i was dissapointed by that but they tried to find a new deal with another team , aka TSL which they basically said were inches to complete and felt again , made me to start doubting about ever making their making their promise right , the thing that made me the most mad was Last MLG when they send 0 players to MLG i asked for a reason and Evoli(team manager) asked the owner of sixjax but he apparently responded with wait a few days we have an annoucment to do, so i was kinda piss at that time than by my self i got in contact with NshoseoSAGE and after test games i was accepted in NSH house so i asked sixjax if they would willing to send me to korea and me staying in NSH for free(no food to pay rent or anyhthing), they said no and at that point i decided to leave and dont play for them anymore i told em i wouldnt accept anymore payments. What's up with your spelling, brah? He's so young!!! (and English isn't his native language so) I'm younger and English ain't my native language either. On-topic: I love Artosis and believe he has the best intentions but that doesn't mean it's fair to just tear apart Major immediately after his release from Sixjax, he clearly feels that he is a good player and wasn't getting supported sufficiently on the team he was on, he therefore chose to seek support elsewhere. Good for him. Hold on, am i getting this right, but are you blaming Artosis here a little bit? How do you know Artosis made the call here? I would assume that he didn't. Sorry if i understood you wrong. I don't know if you've been following Artosis' at all, I'm not going to claim I've been following him ridiculously closely or anything but I have to say whenever you heard him talk about Major he always kept going on and on about his huge potential and how he just needs to develop it. I'm just saying, to say that and not send him to any tournaments, then deny him going to Korea seems off. Maybe him going to Korea would directly conflict with plans the team has (and if they didn't promise Korea to him, then alright) but again it just seems a bit weird. I have been following Artosis, and you are right that Artosis has said plenty of times that Major is really talented and should develop his skills the best way possible. But I'm pretty sure that Artosis didn't make the call to not to send SixJax players to MLG or Major to Korea. Instead, the management of the team made the decision. They do what ever they want because they are controlling the team and the money. Artosis is just a _coach_. I don't know why he'd be the coach and a sort of pseudo-spokesman/recruiter (maybe not pseudo-recruiter? I don't know exactly what goes on) for the team if they are not only going to neglect what their players want but also what their coaches think is best for their players. How hard it is to understand that the management, once again, decides what ever they want to do with the team and it's players. They might have asked Artosis what he thinks, Artosis might have said what they SHOULD do, but in the end, only the management decides what they will do. Without any proof, it's stupid to blame or even drag Artosis into this.
And I think it's stupid that people are attacking Major and acting like Sixjax is some kind of saint, ain't stopping it at all. Whatever, you keep putting words in my mouth. Not going to play into that anymore. Maybe read my post again while you're at it.
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On September 04 2011 20:55 TheAntZ wrote:
hope NSH kicks him out asap. We all know its gonna happen, I'd be glad if it happened sooner rather than later.
He never joined the team, he simply played for an opening in the house.
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