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Roaches
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark152 Posts
August 23 2011 18:44 GMT
#121
With his strong BW past I can't help but wonder how good his ties are with Liquid. They may have some room in the budget with the deal meant for Huk and Fenix could want to stay in Korea.

I like watching Fenix play and it seems like a good fit, though of course EG and FXO could also be in the mix.
hi grack
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
August 23 2011 18:44 GMT
#122
On August 24 2011 03:32 neoenigma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 01:34 Termit wrote:
Cleaning up in their roster cuz of lacking results or what is going on? LucifroN, Gretorp, Sen and now Fenix. And the rest of the team doesn't show much excecpt Rain last MLG.

Did you even read the article? They wanted to keep him, but they couldn't come to a mutual agreement on the terms of his contract. He's going to search for a team that can support him the way he needs.


I feel that the problem of the fair value of a SC2 player is going to rise again in the future. SC2 is a very volatile game, with a fast changing metagame. In a matter of months, a player can be the best and then suffer of a really huge slump (like Jinro). Therefore, you have plenty of players with championship bells and no way to say who's better than who. HuK is paid 187000/year (at least, that's the rumor). What that this means for the other players? Naniwa, Thorzain or Sen are on the same level of HuK, or at least, have a shot at attaining that level. How much money should they win? By giving so much money to HuK, i think EG destabilize the market of SC2 pros, as they are a lot to legitimately think that they should get a huge pay rise. Problem is nobody is sure about who deserves the huge money. I wish it was possible, but i don't think that the pro-teams have the money to pay these these high 6 numbers salaries yet. MyM tried it, and failed.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
missingheaven
Profile Joined May 2011
35 Posts
August 23 2011 18:44 GMT
#123
On August 24 2011 01:29 MechKing wrote:
you should put an excerpt of the article because just a link and one liner won't do here lol.




Owned

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PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
August 23 2011 18:50 GMT
#124
On August 24 2011 03:21 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 03:04 PHILtheTANK wrote:
On August 24 2011 02:52 Arschmade wrote:
On August 24 2011 02:39 shawnyee wrote:
On August 24 2011 01:33 Jumob wrote:
Whats going on lately with the e-sports scene?
What Lebron started !!! hahah


is he the black golfer?


No, LeBron is a way bigger asshole than this black golfer who thought he was charly sheen.


How is Lebron an asshole for wanting to play for a team that is willing to acquire talent and actually give him a chance to win. The only "stars" that Cleveland was willing to acquire were has beens and never weres. Lebron is clearly an asshole for wanting to win.


Nah. He's the original quoted is talking about the drama about his decision. So now we get countdowns to announcements, people saying cryptic things, etc. This is at least what was being implied by the original person saying "What Lebron started." Teams need to stop hyping shit and just tell you what is going to happen...


Ya I understand what the first person said, but I wasn't responding to him. Also regardless of what you think people love the hype. A lot of people put a lot of time into the Huk to EG thing, and a ton of people were following it. Also "The Decision" had huge ratings, and even though the media condemned it afterwards, they were the ones who built it up and got him to do it in the first place.
Jieun <3
Roychez
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands54 Posts
August 23 2011 18:51 GMT
#125
On August 24 2011 03:42 justinpal wrote:
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On August 24 2011 03:23 Roychez wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:21 justinpal wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:04 PHILtheTANK wrote:
On August 24 2011 02:52 Arschmade wrote:
On August 24 2011 02:39 shawnyee wrote:
On August 24 2011 01:33 Jumob wrote:
Whats going on lately with the e-sports scene?
What Lebron started !!! hahah


is he the black golfer?


No, LeBron is a way bigger asshole than this black golfer who thought he was charly sheen.


How is Lebron an asshole for wanting to play for a team that is willing to acquire talent and actually give him a chance to win. The only "stars" that Cleveland was willing to acquire were has beens and never weres. Lebron is clearly an asshole for wanting to win.


Nah. He's the original quoted is talking about the drama about his decision. So now we get countdowns to announcements, people saying cryptic things, etc. This is at least what was being implied by the original person saying "What Lebron started." Teams need to stop hyping shit and just tell you what is going to happen...

Fact is, we can't always tell you everything yet, as it might upset parties or the entire deal. I don't know about others, but we are giving out the information we can. We can also say nothing about future signings too and leave you wondering about what will happen with our team, but I guess some info is better than none at all.

And obviously, we're a business, so we want to get as many hits and views, etc. out of it as possible, by giving a press release in the best possible manner, and not half-done.


I guess. I see a lot of people saying guess what we will announce, big announcement incoming, my next tweet will hold a big announcement, etc. I know hype is important as a business, but I think the actual moves will hype themselves in most cases. For example, when you signed NightEnD or Rain it was hyped by itself .

I'm not sure who does that, but we try not to go that far. We're just saying we're going to add new players so we don't leave you in the dark and that you know we're trying to move forward, and not backwards. I think our new additions will show our ambition.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 23 2011 18:55 GMT
#126
On August 24 2011 03:44 Roaches wrote:
With his strong BW past I can't help but wonder how good his ties are with Liquid. They may have some room in the budget with the deal meant for Huk and Fenix could want to stay in Korea.

I like watching Fenix play and it seems like a good fit, though of course EG and FXO could also be in the mix.


I was wrong about the HuK swap, but I'm fairly certain he'll find a home somewhere else.
aLite
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada36 Posts
August 23 2011 18:56 GMT
#127
It's unfortunate to see FnaticMSI lose yet another great player with much potential. As far as predictions go, like one person early in the thread said something bout the EG hype Spanish Audio clip and EG claiming they have more to announce in the future, I see Fenix joining EG as a possibility. He could easily join the EG team house in Korea as he is already in Korea playing for F.United in GSTL. Aside from that, maybe he'll join col or FXO. Good luck to both FnaticMSI and Fenix in the future!
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
August 23 2011 18:56 GMT
#128
Didn't Fenix used to be in Root/Fnatic house with CatZ/Drewbie/TT1/Kiwikaki ? So his relationship with CatZ and Drewbie (coL) must be really good. I can see him going to coL and join Drewbie @ MVP house.

And otherwise EG -> Korean EG house. But because EG house is gonna happen from October and on, I don't see this happening as Fenix wants to stay in Korea and his current place (we made fox) is going to disband in a week. So I expect news within a week time of Fenix' new plans.

Just speculations.
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
PowerDes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States520 Posts
August 23 2011 19:01 GMT
#129
EGFenix
twitch.tv/PowerDes
Crais
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2136 Posts
August 23 2011 19:03 GMT
#130
Wow Fnatic losing another heavy hitter. I wonder who they will bring in.
RIP MBC Game Hero
forgiveness_
Profile Joined August 2011
8 Posts
August 23 2011 19:05 GMT
#131
Fenix to EG,EG to GSTL

make it happen SirScoots!
Chilling
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
August 23 2011 19:05 GMT
#132
I personally see a Korean team picking him up if he wants to stay in Korea.

For some reason I see Startale maybe picking him up.

If he eventuallys leaves Korean I could see him in ReIGN or coL
pt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States813 Posts
August 23 2011 19:06 GMT
#133
EG.Fenix!!
EG-TL!
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
August 23 2011 19:16 GMT
#134
Please not EG, please not EG.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
August 23 2011 19:21 GMT
#135
On August 24 2011 01:33 GoKu` wrote:
I don't really see how this could be mutual because of how well Fenix has been improving as of late. But i don't know. Sad for them to Lose another player. Sen and now Fenix. Only one i can remember now is TT1 lol


Rain, Kawaiirice, and Nightend are there, right?
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 19:25:29
August 23 2011 19:23 GMT
#136
Would love to see Fenix on coL ~~

sad to see fnatic losing some of their stars
f0rzaa
Profile Joined August 2011
United States59 Posts
August 23 2011 19:23 GMT
#137
hopefully they get rid of TT1 whos a joke and fill their roster with worthy players

User was temp banned for this post.
got'em
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
August 23 2011 19:24 GMT
#138
No FXO guys.. sry I wasn't even aware Fenix was looking to leave fnatic... So we arent an option unfortunately...
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
Strike_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands704 Posts
August 23 2011 19:25 GMT
#139
EG probably on top of this shit already
Raysalis
Profile Joined July 2010
Malaysia1034 Posts
August 23 2011 19:25 GMT
#140
Fenix fighting!! Please do your best.
:)
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