Designated Balance Discussion Thread - Page 444

On April 12 2013 04:44 sibs wrote:
http://aligulac.com/reports/

Very nice graph of win rates, that is being kept up to date.

On April 12 2013 07:06 neoghaleon55 wrote:



holy cow, Terran dominating both match ups.
Hope they enjoy it, the nerf-bat commeth!

On April 12 2013 07:08 SlixSC wrote:


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At0PE4rdhsI9dDE0cEprWkwwMGxQdTczTTlLNW1qX1E#gid=0

Statistics for April. Did you not read the rest of the thread?

On April 12 2013 07:09 Dudasc wrote:


we are still at 11st, things might get even worse

On April 12 2013 07:11 neoghaleon55 wrote:



yea who the hell talks about april statistics when we're only a third of the way through the month.
Anyway, I trust aligulac best.

On April 12 2013 07:13 SlixSC wrote:


We don't, but likewise, who talks about march when it was only roughly 2 weeks of tournament play and aligulac is known to not include all games in their database?

On April 12 2013 07:14 neoghaleon55 wrote:


Their database is more complete than even TLPD according to an article published in february of this year.

On April 12 2013 07:17 SlixSC wrote:


But their database roughly ignores 30% of all the matches in the liquipedia database. You are comparing one inaccurate statistic with another one, what's the point?

On April 12 2013 07:18 neoghaleon55 wrote:


Can you give a source for that "ignoring 30%?"
Where did you get the number 30%?

On April 12 2013 07:29 SlixSC wrote:


It's actually a little bit more than that even.

The total amount of non-mirror matches played in GSL this season (ignoring up and downs since they were played in Wings) is 359 non-mirrors. Aligulac only has roughly 230 of these matches in their database. So they have missed roughly 35% of all matches.

http://aligulac.com/results/events/11898/
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_Korea_GSL/Qualifier
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_Korea_GSL/Code_S

How is this reliable to you?

On April 12 2013 07:33 neoghaleon55 wrote:


That's still being updated regularly.
It's like that for every current tournaments.
Even TLPD sometimes takes weeks to update fully on current events.

Weak sauce argument.

On April 12 2013 07:35 SlixSC wrote:


And the statistics I posted are updated in real time and include all games played in the respective tournaments. How is it a weak sauce argument when you are relying on statistics that are either terribly inaccurate or incomplete and I rely on statistics that include every single game that was played over the course of the last 2 weeks.

Explain it to me.

On April 12 2013 07:36 neoghaleon55 wrote:



because...you were talking about april balance when it's april 11th...
end of story.

On April 12 2013 07:37 SlixSC wrote:

almost 2 weeks worth of data, you were talking about march balance which didn't even include half as many games. Hypocrite.

On April 12 2013 07:40 neoghaleon55 wrote:



Are you really trying to sell the point that your 2 weeks worth of data paints a better picture of balance than aligulac's massive database that spans the whole life time of Wings of Liberty and Heart of the Swarm?
wow...
yea I give up with you.