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BFCrimson
United States176 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:22 namedplayer wrote: u need to pay $3000+ for getting round-trip tickets. also need to pay hotel + food fees. you know they are very poor.I think it is understandable. Why no one at least reads the last 2 pages of thread before posting is beyond me | ||
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ShootingStars
1475 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:25 JimSocks wrote: plane ticket is about 1k, the extra 1k can cover hotel and food for a weekend. probably have money left over. i'm guessing they wanted tickets for extra people like manager or coaches, maybe its hard traveling alone. but still, practically free trip with the chance of winning 40k, i don't know what they're thinking. It is hard traveling alone when you don't know what the heck is ahead of you... Koreans > America | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:20 SimDawg wrote: Here's a question, how the heck do we show our displeasure to this mysterious SC2Con if we can't stop buying GSL passes or whatever, since it's not GSL's fault? I mean without foreign money these guys are sitting on their thumbs for pennies. We should be able to do something as a group of pissed off fans. Well GSL viewers used twitter to thank pepsi. NASL viewers use twitter to show displeasure with SC2con teams? Do the coaches (or teams themselves, or sc2con itself) have a twitter? | ||
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whateverpeeps
United States214 Posts
And they STILL say no? WTF is going on with SC2Con lately? First the drama with other leagues, then the TSL drama, and now this? Seems like a series of some pretty bad decisions by their management. And if they really told NASL on the 2nd day of filming...that's pretty fked up. Of course, we haven't heard the whole story yet. But the way SC2Con has been acting lately, it makes me wonder why do all these Korean teams and managers follow it. Good luck to NASL. No doubt this will hurt them but I hope they pull through. Doesn't seem like SC2Con and Korean teams are going to go unscathed either though...SC2Con really should evaluate their goals and what they want to achieve with some of these decisions in the long run. PS: Is there a contact for SC2Con? Maybe if people would email them, the SC2Con would rethink their decision. | ||
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Sturov
United Kingdom29 Posts
 Will there be more players added to the league? ... To replace the Koreans who are no longer participating. I bet the international players are now feeling rather good  Gogo Ret!! | ||
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StarcraftKevin
United States285 Posts
sigh. it sucks | ||
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Compete in NASL, get $2000 travel expenses. Play 1 bo3 and get knocked out (well actually you played 9 weeks of online play), or go further and spend 3-5 days in the US with chance to win $40,000. Not acceptable. Compete in GSL, fly to korea on your own money. Get housed in the GOM house, live in conditions that most in the west find disagreeable. Play 1 bo3, get knocked out. Go further and spend up to 1 month in Korea for the chance to win up to $1,500. Acceptable. Double standards much? | ||
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Moosy
Canada396 Posts
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insaneMicro
Germany761 Posts
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KoshkaTV
United States430 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:20 SimDawg wrote: Here's a question, how the heck do we show our displeasure to this mysterious SC2Con if we can't stop buying GSL passes or whatever, since it's not GSL's fault? I mean without foreign money these guys are sitting on their thumbs for pennies. We should be able to do something as a group of pissed off fans. Yes... i think Gom is a part of it. Gom/MLG trying to kill off the competition. | ||
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Dali.
New Zealand689 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:24 ShootingStars wrote: It's not that hard to enforce policies you know... like "this hotel" only and etc. It's pretty you're obviously that you're not sincere. Please stop derailing. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:25 DoomsVille wrote: This isn't about money. That has been made clear over and over by people in this thread. This is about one of a few things: 1) Koreans trying to squeeze out NASL so that GSL remains number 1 2) They're pissed off at the EG/PuMa thing and they don't want that to repeat 3) They're pissed off at the hours of play and don't want to go through it again 4) They hate the tournament format for the finals and think its a waste of time There may be other reasons, but those are the ones I can think of. What I don't understand is why they went through the trouble of giving NASL an ultimatum. They clearly had no intention of competing to begin with. NASL has basically agreed to cover all travel costs... if its about 2-4 then why would they have ever signed up to qualify or make this ultimatum. its about money. | ||
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Stropheum
United States1124 Posts
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snailz
Croatia900 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:25 DoomsVille wrote: This isn't about money. That has been made clear over and over by people in this thread. This is about one of a few things: 1) Koreans trying to squeeze out NASL so that GSL remains number 1 2) They're pissed off at the EG/PuMa thing and they don't want that to repeat 3) They're pissed off at the hours of play and don't want to go through it again 4) They hate the tournament format for the finals and think its a waste of time There may be other reasons, but those are the ones I can think of. What I don't understand is why they went through the trouble of giving NASL an ultimatum. They clearly had no intention of competing to begin with. NASL has basically agreed to cover all travel costs... 1) is laughable because right now there are several tournaments that NASL needs to be better than to come close to GSL 3) probably isn't so because they all knew what they were getting themselves into prior to applying for season2 - huge prize pool is worth the hassle 2) and 4) are most probably the reason. it's only logical from korean pov | ||
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ronpaul012
United States769 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:15 forgottendreams wrote: So you like watching inferior play? Color me not surprised at your username.... User was warned for this post When an nfl game is on, would you rather watch 2 teams that are mediocre and fighting for a playoff spot, or would you rather watch a team who has one locked in beat a team with no shot? All I'm saying is go back and watch the games from a few months ago. Were the players better? No. Were the games closer and more exciting? HELL YES. Can anybody really say they enjoyed championship sunday with a bunch of koreans playing from mlg anaheim more than they did back in dallas when naniwa made his spectacular run? Absolutely not. I'll grant you this, you do get games such as puma mc that are very good, but the pure amount of good/exciting games has decreased since more koreans have been playing. | ||
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SillyPrincess
Canada115 Posts
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Sombre
United Kingdom86 Posts
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arbitrageur
Australia1202 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:26 emythrel wrote: So let me get this straight.... Compete in NASL, get $2000 travel expenses. Play 1 bo3 and get knocked out (well actually you played 9 weeks of online play), or go further and spend 3-5 days in the US with chance to win $40,000. Not acceptable. Compete in GSL, fly to korea on your own money. Get housed in the GOM house, live in conditions that most in the west find disagreeable. Play 1 bo3, get knocked out. Go further and spend up to 1 month in Korea for the chance to win up to $1,500. Acceptable. Double standards much? Durrrrr Both teams are maximising their perceived expectation .. it is a decision of how to allocate what little resources they have. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:27 jmbthirteen wrote: if its about 2-4 then why would they have ever signed up to qualify or make this ultimatum. its about money. Maybe they thought having a healthy amount of their players already qualified, would mean NASL would do whatever they asked? | ||
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ShootingStars
1475 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:28 snailz wrote: 1) is laughable because right now there are several tournaments that NASL needs to be better than to come close to GSL 3) probably isn't so because they all knew what they were getting themselves into prior to applying for season2 - huge prize pool is worth the hassle 2) and 4) are most probably the reason. it's only logical from korean pov 2 and 4 is most definitely the reason... as their players are not on contracts. | ||
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