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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:07 FliedLice wrote: No. In that case they should've withdrawn several weeks ago already. There are several NA and EU players who showed up to all their games, what if they want an exception too? Sure why not? After all, they've earned it for participating fully in the league in Season 1. | ||
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Swad1000
United States366 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:05 Dali. wrote: If 90% of viewers watch simply to spot a 'mythical' Korean then they're fools. The game > the player. The player makes the game Im not tuning into watch Mc vs Catz because I already know what is going to happen. I will tune into watch Nestea vs Mc because it will be top level all around. Also the finals that made Nasl good was complete bullshit. Watching guys like Ret and Boxer get knocked out of the tournament instantly was terrible. Not to mention they had Dustin Browder balancing the sound. | ||
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supdubdup
United States916 Posts
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wklbishop
United States1286 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:05 NASL.tv wrote: This is absolutely false. Mr.Chae works VERY HARD to unite the Korean and foreign scene. I've spoken to him extensively about this issue and others, and I consider him a friend of mine. He has tried to argue our case to the Korean teams. He has been nothing but helpful. Please, show your respect to GOMTV and Mr.Chae, they're truly trying to help make eSports more global! <3 Mr.Chae I actually am impressed by the constant communication you've provided throughout this thread and to clear up misunderstandings. So I'd like to say thank you! | ||
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Midgetman101
United States825 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:06 Beyonder wrote: Sadly there is truth to this.. I think ret had it worst of all tho TT! Ret literally lost in like 10 minutes with no shot at redemption and he was number 1 seed... | ||
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Amlitzer
United States471 Posts
 I'm glad I decided to purchase a GSL season ticket rather than a NASL season ticket. Don't worry though I'll still tune in to the free stream every night, I actually like Gretorp. Who knows things might actually work out better this way. | ||
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Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:08 hdan wrote: And people going on about the format, seems kinda similar when foeigners win code A status and have one bo3 otherwise good luck requalifying through code b hell, tournaments dont need to be double elimination to be great, NASL had great finals IMO, and I find the format better that way because then all the matches can be broadcast and you dont have to miss out on what could be potentially awesome games like we do in MLG because there are hundreds of games played every day. Think twice please. Foreigners got SEEDED into Code A. ALL foreigners (and koreans) that participated in NASL S1 got SEEDED. And yes, the NASL finals were good. Guess why?  | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:05 NASL.tv wrote: This is absolutely false. Mr.Chae works VERY HARD to unite the Korean and foreign scene. I've spoken to him extensively about this issue and others, and I consider him a friend of mine. He has tried to argue our case to the Korean teams. He has been nothing but helpful. Please, show your respect to GOMTV and Mr.Chae, they're truly trying to help make eSports more global! <3 Mr.Chae I can also attest to how awesome Mr Chae is and how hard he works for e-sports. This is SC2CON. | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:08 NASL.tv wrote: Ensnare forfeited games twice. While in general, the Koreans were more professional about their participation that foreigners, it wasn't exemplary. I offered the Korean teams to talk to me personally if the deposits were a problem and we could work something out, but I heard no responses other than the same repeated ultimatum. Seems like it's a communication problem then. I hope that you continue to try to pursue as many channels as possible to communicate with the teams, because I really hope Korean participation in the league can be salvaged. :/ | ||
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legaton
France1763 Posts
Viva le Kespa! | ||
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SxYSpAz
United States1451 Posts
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Lupita
United States290 Posts
From what i can tell, and what I've heard from the commentators/people involved, the Koreans love the American fans and the atmosphere here in the states. I expect more Koreans to defect to American teams in the future if more decisions like this keep coming out of Korea. And the effect on NASL viewership may not be as substantial as 90%, but the fact that it will no longer be a tournament involving the full gamut of the best players in the world will definitely make it take a hit in viewers/subscribers. | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:08 NASL.tv wrote: Ensnare forfeited games twice. While in general, the Koreans were more professional about their participation that foreigners, it wasn't exemplary. I offered the Korean teams to talk to me personally if the deposits were a problem and we could work something out, but I heard no responses other than the same repeated ultimatum. This is really bizarre. If their demand was travel expenses and no security deposit, and the $1000 travel expenses + guaranteed $1000 even if they lost in the first round covered travel expenses, the security deposit seems to be the only issue left. Are we sure there isn't just some kind of misunderstanding or maybe translations giving off the wrong tone? | ||
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sWs
United States409 Posts
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hdan
27 Posts
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Carras
Argentina860 Posts
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ShootingStars
1475 Posts
You know what they say, no money no skill. NASL needs to give much more money to attract the Koreans. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:08 Z3kk wrote: I would say that the Korean teams were in the wrong for pulling out with such late notice, but really think that NASL should consider changing the format, because it punishes just one bad series with a trip back home on a plane. Yet they still get $1,000 for the one bad series. This has nothing to do with format and everything to do with money. Do you think that they would still be in NASL if players played a minimum of two series instead of one? I certainly dont. | ||
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snailz
Croatia900 Posts
On August 12 2011 09:07 Silver777 wrote: Or the Koreans could choose to not participate knowing this beforehand...its not like GSL allows for participation for those outside of Korea until the finals.... so it's ok for you that #1 seed can get knocked out of the tournament in half an hour, after 2 months hard work getting to that #1 seed, traveling across the ocean to play in the finals? format is bad, it should be double elimination, and open tourney player shouldn't be seeded as last, because skill-wise he obviously won't be. | ||
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ronpaul012
United States769 Posts
When koreans started playing in more tournaments such as the nasl, or the exchange with mlg I was pumped. But now its starting to become lame and I kind of want the older more exciting matches back. | ||
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