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Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-01 23:30:23
September 23 2011 00:04 GMT
#1161
I actually really enjoy moletrap, he and all of the people at sc2gg made me get into starcraft and alot of people seem to forget that he was one of the best youtube commentators for a long time.

While i like him his game knowledge does suck, but so does doa also they should play the game more seeing as this is a career for them
"Yeah, I send (hopefully) helpful PM's quite frequently. You don't have to warn/ban everything" - KadaverBB
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
September 23 2011 00:10 GMT
#1162
moletrap is awesome.

the only thing that bothers me is that he's obviously self-conscious because he reads the hate. to that i'd say, don't read threads like this, and just imagine you're back in your car with a microphone co-casting with cholera and diggity for the violetak account. :D
b0t
Profile Joined July 2010
Luxembourg37 Posts
September 23 2011 00:11 GMT
#1163
>> While i like him his game knowledge does suck, but so does wolf also they should play the game more seeing as this is a career for them

Hmm? IMHO their game knowledge is far superior to Artless, the last claim that going fast obs is good in PvT (LOL) .
Wear conservative blue or white Oxford shirts
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 23 2011 01:13 GMT
#1164
Well good for Moletrap, though tbh he is my least favorite of the Code A group (who I usually mute >.<). I just find his casting dry and his in game knowledge terrible. Often times in casts I hear him make claims about things that are clearly not true, or grossly misinforming us about things that are going on in front of us. I have to assume he is on the Observing computer and not watching the cast we get as often we get shown something by the observer that the casters are confused about for several minuets more (which kinda of makes listening to them hard sometimes).

Sorry to be negative, I'm not trying to be mean or anything, just sharing my opinion. Can only hope the extended casting of Code A will allow him to grow as a caster.
I can take that responsibility.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
October 01 2011 23:27 GMT
#1165
Dear doa/moletrap, if you read this thread:
You need to pay attention to what the observer is showing you. I dont know what you have set up, but its frustrating when hes showing something kind of important and you dont say anything about it or wonder about something he showed already.

Example (minor arena of legends spoilers): MKP vs MMA - Game 1, he showed energy for both people... ignored (does he have enough energy to scan!? no... he showed us)... Game 2, he showed MKP missed the factory with his scouting factory and you were like "lol hes showing us the thor why lol". Game 3, "but the viking is going to get the banshee" as the observer is clicking the cloak button to show he can cloak... then he does and the viking doesnt kill the banshee.

This is just something that really irritates me
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
October 01 2011 23:29 GMT
#1166
On September 23 2011 09:04 Darkren wrote:
I actually really enjoy moletrap, he and all of the people at sc2gg made me get into starcraft and alot of people seem to forget that he was one of the best youtube commentators for a long time.

While i like him his game knowledge does suck, but so does wolf also they should play the game more seeing as this is a career for them

if you think wolf's game knowledge is lacking, you clearly don't know the game and your opinions on casters' game knowledge carry no weight.

moletrap, however, doesn't know much about the game.
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Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
October 01 2011 23:30 GMT
#1167
On October 02 2011 08:29 nath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 09:04 Darkren wrote:
I actually really enjoy moletrap, he and all of the people at sc2gg made me get into starcraft and alot of people seem to forget that he was one of the best youtube commentators for a long time.

While i like him his game knowledge does suck, but so does wolf also they should play the game more seeing as this is a career for them

if you think wolf's game knowledge is lacking, you clearly don't know the game and your opinions on casters' game knowledge carry no weight.

moletrap, however, doesn't know much about the game.


Typo meant doa corrected it
"Yeah, I send (hopefully) helpful PM's quite frequently. You don't have to warn/ban everything" - KadaverBB
frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
January 27 2012 11:43 GMT
#1168
Firstly, I hope I am right in bumping this and that this is the right place to discuss this.

I feel that Moletrap's casting has gone from bad to worse and its so hard not to caster bash in LR threads when he just says utterly wrong things. People who watched today's GSTL would know what I mean.

Khaldor isn't the best caster imo either but he does good play by play without screaming into the mic and giving me an earbleed. I would really like it if gom paired moletrap with Wolf or another more knowledgeable caster.

The thing thats most troubling with him is that he isn't improving and knows so little about players and the game
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
January 27 2012 11:45 GMT
#1169
On January 27 2012 20:43 frucisky wrote:
Firstly, I hope I am right in bumping this and that this is the right place to discuss this.

I feel that Moletrap's casting has gone from bad to worse and its so hard not to caster bash in LR threads when he just says utterly wrong things. People who watched today's GSTL would know what I mean.

Khaldor isn't the best caster imo either but he does good play by play without screaming into the mic and giving me an earbleed. I would really like it if gom paired moletrap with Wolf or another more knowledgeable caster.

The thing thats most troubling with him is that he isn't improving and knows so little about players and the game


Wholeheartedly agree with this. It was bad enough Moletrap seems to be either factually incorrect on various things, or just likes to ramble. But it's even worse when a big battle goes on he's screaming to the mic.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Sylfyre
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia222 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 12:22:48
January 27 2012 11:47 GMT
#1170
congrats to him for the success....though personally not a fan of his casting, it's still an epic opportunity for him and hopefully he'll improve as time goes
SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
January 27 2012 12:03 GMT
#1171
I don't mean to be demeaning or anything, but MoleTrap really needs to learn the game more.. he thinks 1 baneling can kill many banelings.. he doesn't know that banelings are not light units.. I mean how can you be a professional commentator without knowing basic things like this? and this is just 1 of many many things he doesn't understand about the game.
Alasper
Profile Joined June 2011
179 Posts
January 27 2012 12:05 GMT
#1172
"When xxx player wins xxx tournament I'll give him credit xxxxxxx"

^He needs to stop saying stupid things like this.
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jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
January 27 2012 12:06 GMT
#1173
hmmm :/
actually missed his casting and khaldors.
good to have some variety of casters imo.

he is pretty good and fine
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
January 27 2012 12:07 GMT
#1174
On January 27 2012 21:06 jjhchsc2 wrote:
hmmm :/
actually missed his casting and khaldors.
good to have some variety of casters imo.

he is pretty good and fine

I agree. Moletrap and Khaldor are strange yet enjoyable.
themask4f
Profile Joined December 2011
138 Posts
January 27 2012 12:10 GMT
#1175
On January 27 2012 20:43 frucisky wrote:
Firstly, I hope I am right in bumping this and that this is the right place to discuss this.

I feel that Moletrap's casting has gone from bad to worse and its so hard not to caster bash in LR threads when he just says utterly wrong things. People who watched today's GSTL would know what I mean.

Khaldor isn't the best caster imo either but he does good play by play without screaming into the mic and giving me an earbleed. I would really like it if gom paired moletrap with Wolf or another more knowledgeable caster.

The thing thats most troubling with him is that he isn't improving and knows so little about players and the game


You haters never cease to amaze me in how persistent you are at making your points. If you dont like him then dont listen to him, dont try to force your plat league opinions on us and if you cant help hating then keep it for yourself and shut the fuck up about it. Pointless thread bump, and pathetic human being

User was temp banned for this post.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
January 27 2012 12:11 GMT
#1176
On January 27 2012 21:10 themask4f wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 20:43 frucisky wrote:
Firstly, I hope I am right in bumping this and that this is the right place to discuss this.

I feel that Moletrap's casting has gone from bad to worse and its so hard not to caster bash in LR threads when he just says utterly wrong things. People who watched today's GSTL would know what I mean.

Khaldor isn't the best caster imo either but he does good play by play without screaming into the mic and giving me an earbleed. I would really like it if gom paired moletrap with Wolf or another more knowledgeable caster.

The thing thats most troubling with him is that he isn't improving and knows so little about players and the game


You haters never cease to amaze me in how persistent you are at making your points. If you dont like him then dont listen to him, dont try to force your plat league opinions on us and if you cant help hating then keep it for yourself and shut the fuck up about it. Pointless thread bump, and pathetic human being

He offered constructive criticism, chill the fuck out.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Saiton
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden467 Posts
January 27 2012 12:12 GMT
#1177
On January 27 2012 21:10 themask4f wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 20:43 frucisky wrote:
Firstly, I hope I am right in bumping this and that this is the right place to discuss this.

I feel that Moletrap's casting has gone from bad to worse and its so hard not to caster bash in LR threads when he just says utterly wrong things. People who watched today's GSTL would know what I mean.

Khaldor isn't the best caster imo either but he does good play by play without screaming into the mic and giving me an earbleed. I would really like it if gom paired moletrap with Wolf or another more knowledgeable caster.

The thing thats most troubling with him is that he isn't improving and knows so little about players and the game


You haters never cease to amaze me in how persistent you are at making your points. If you dont like him then dont listen to him.


This is the worst argument i've ever heard. We are customers, we pay for high quality GSL-matches casted by professionals and just because we don't like the caster we can't watch the games?

Come back with a reasonable argument please.
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
January 27 2012 12:12 GMT
#1178
On January 27 2012 21:10 themask4f wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 20:43 frucisky wrote:
Firstly, I hope I am right in bumping this and that this is the right place to discuss this.

I feel that Moletrap's casting has gone from bad to worse and its so hard not to caster bash in LR threads when he just says utterly wrong things. People who watched today's GSTL would know what I mean.

Khaldor isn't the best caster imo either but he does good play by play without screaming into the mic and giving me an earbleed. I would really like it if gom paired moletrap with Wolf or another more knowledgeable caster.

The thing thats most troubling with him is that he isn't improving and knows so little about players and the game


You haters never cease to amaze me in how persistent you are at making your points. If you dont like him then dont listen to him, dont try to force your plat league opinions on us and if you cant help hating then keep it for yourself and shut the fuck up about it. Pointless thread bump, and pathetic human being


Do you have a magical moletrap muting device while having Khaldor's casting still being audible? Otherwise, keep out of it. This thread's purpose is about Moletrap's casting, if people dislike his casting for whatever reason, they have as much right to post it as you. You're just hating for the sake of hating.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
FluXen
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada210 Posts
January 27 2012 12:14 GMT
#1179
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You haters never cease to amaze me in how persistent you are at making your points. If you dont like him then dont listen to him, dont try to force your plat league opinions on us and if you cant help hating then keep it for yourself and shut the fuck up about it. Pointless thread bump, and pathetic human being


I understand what your saying, don't like it, don't listen to it, but there is no need to go into that language and to go into this "plat league opinion". League doesn't mean anything when you are talking about a caster, the caster should be knowledgeable about the game, and being in plat makes you that, I think you need to calm down on the hate
"Rise and Rise Again till Lamb become Lion"-Robin Hood
kurrysauce
Profile Joined October 2010
272 Posts
January 27 2012 12:26 GMT
#1180
I actually enjoyed today's matches and casting. Don't know why everybody is throwing a hissy fit over moletrap . I take whatever khaldor and moletrap says with a grain of salt because iirc khaldor is plat on KR and moletrap is ... plat on NA? .

I'd say it was bad planning on the producer's part , should've had a more knowledgable caster paired with either of them.
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