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gehgrfhgrh
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany294 Posts
August 15 2011 11:32 GMT
#841
On August 15 2011 19:18 namste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 02:29 itstheTB wrote:
moletrap + doa works really, really well. I hope they both can do Code A in the long term

need day[9] for Code S! would be epic


Moletrap + doa combo lacks the knowledge tho, they're entertaining and all that but can't really give any insight on anything like Wolf and Artosis can for example.


/facepalm

No one needs "Insight", thats bullshit. There is no "Insight" in SC2. It's all about the entertainment. I rather take Moletrap or Totalbiscuit than some retarded Pseudo-Grandmaster who is boring as hell.
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zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 11:34:29
August 15 2011 11:34 GMT
#842
I want to see all three of them do something. Dolftrap! The three-way archon!

Of course, that would probably just mean listening to Moletrap 95% of the time.
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
August 15 2011 12:41 GMT
#843
On August 15 2011 20:32 gehgrfhgrh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 19:18 namste wrote:
On August 14 2011 02:29 itstheTB wrote:
moletrap + doa works really, really well. I hope they both can do Code A in the long term

need day[9] for Code S! would be epic


Moletrap + doa combo lacks the knowledge tho, they're entertaining and all that but can't really give any insight on anything like Wolf and Artosis can for example.


/facepalm

No one needs "Insight", thats bullshit. There is no "Insight" in SC2. It's all about the entertainment. I rather take Moletrap or Totalbiscuit than some retarded Pseudo-Grandmaster who is boring as hell.


Remember when some pro casted, like Idra back in the days? That was true insight, and it was pretty nice to hear.

But I agree, we cant expect pro insight from the likes of Idra etc, so I too only want entertainment.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
August 15 2011 12:54 GMT
#844
On August 15 2011 20:32 gehgrfhgrh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 19:18 namste wrote:
On August 14 2011 02:29 itstheTB wrote:
moletrap + doa works really, really well. I hope they both can do Code A in the long term

need day[9] for Code S! would be epic


Moletrap + doa combo lacks the knowledge tho, they're entertaining and all that but can't really give any insight on anything like Wolf and Artosis can for example.


/facepalm

No one needs "Insight", thats bullshit. There is no "Insight" in SC2. It's all about the entertainment. I rather take Moletrap or Totalbiscuit than some retarded Pseudo-Grandmaster who is boring as hell.

its the opposite for me and many others, we like casters, that tell more than we can see ourselfs, so we prefer Artosis, IdrA or other pros (like on the Homestory Cup)
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n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 13:00:56
August 15 2011 12:56 GMT
#845
On August 15 2011 20:32 gehgrfhgrh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 19:18 namste wrote:
On August 14 2011 02:29 itstheTB wrote:
moletrap + doa works really, really well. I hope they both can do Code A in the long term

need day[9] for Code S! would be epic


Moletrap + doa combo lacks the knowledge tho, they're entertaining and all that but can't really give any insight on anything like Wolf and Artosis can for example.


/facepalm

No one needs "Insight", thats bullshit. There is no "Insight" in SC2. It's all about the entertainment. I rather take Moletrap or Totalbiscuit than some retarded Pseudo-Grandmaster who is boring as hell.


I don't mind it either way (insight and entertainment are both fine). When a caster lacks both though, then we have an issue. Code A/ GSTL is at a stage where it's losing viewers (or followed on mute) simply because the casting is really painful (to some).

As a sidenote, I'd love having TB in GSL ^_^
roflcopter420
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden168 Posts
August 15 2011 16:32 GMT
#846
On August 11 2011 16:35 zombeez wrote:
Moletrap is a fat ugly annoying fuck.

User was quite banned for this post.


I think you are being to hard on him ;_; I like him, he is rather nice I think lol
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
August 15 2011 16:35 GMT
#847
On August 16 2011 01:32 roflcopter420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 16:35 zombeez wrote:
Moletrap is a fat ugly annoying fuck.

User was quite banned for this post.


I think you are being to hard on him ;_; I like him, he is rather nice I think lol


trash posts that contribute nothing but hate towards himself and his beliefs will be dealt with as such.
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
August 15 2011 18:49 GMT
#848
On August 16 2011 01:35 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2011 01:32 roflcopter420 wrote:
On August 11 2011 16:35 zombeez wrote:
Moletrap is a fat ugly annoying fuck.

User was quite banned for this post.


I think you are being to hard on him ;_; I like him, he is rather nice I think lol


trash posts that contribute nothing but hate towards himself and his beliefs will be dealt with as such.


As well they fucking should be. The scum of the community needs incinerating.
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oxxo
Profile Joined February 2010
988 Posts
August 15 2011 19:18 GMT
#849
Wow really? Doa + moletrap are almost as bad as they were the first time around. They constantly interrupt each other literally midsentence and the sad part is it's necessary because they both ramble on and on without letting the other guy get a word in. They have horrible chemistry. Wolf + Moletrap is decent, Wolf + Doa is decent, but Doa + Moletrap is terrible.
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
August 15 2011 19:22 GMT
#850
On August 16 2011 04:18 oxxo wrote:
Wow really? Doa + moletrap are almost as bad as they were the first time around. They constantly interrupt each other literally midsentence and the sad part is it's necessary because they both ramble on and on without letting the other guy get a word in. They have horrible chemistry. Wolf + Moletrap is decent, Wolf + Doa is decent, but Doa + Moletrap is terrible.


What? The only reason why Wolf + Moletrap seems to "work" is because Wolf is too nice to interrupt Moletrap, but Moletrap interrupts Wolf all the time.

Moletrap is just too used to solo casting and he hasn't quite gotten the chemistry down yet. Hopefully he can improve on his co-casting skills and we'll see him settle into his role.
Logic is Overrated
Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
August 15 2011 19:24 GMT
#851
On August 15 2011 21:54 Zeon0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 20:32 gehgrfhgrh wrote:
On August 15 2011 19:18 namste wrote:
On August 14 2011 02:29 itstheTB wrote:
moletrap + doa works really, really well. I hope they both can do Code A in the long term

need day[9] for Code S! would be epic


Moletrap + doa combo lacks the knowledge tho, they're entertaining and all that but can't really give any insight on anything like Wolf and Artosis can for example.


/facepalm

No one needs "Insight", thats bullshit. There is no "Insight" in SC2. It's all about the entertainment. I rather take Moletrap or Totalbiscuit than some retarded Pseudo-Grandmaster who is boring as hell.

its the opposite for me and many others, we like casters, that tell more than we can see ourselfs, so we prefer Artosis, IdrA or other pros (like on the Homestory Cup)



I absolutly don't care about the entertainement as long as I can watch games without hearing wrong stuff about it. I'd prefer people who don't talk than people being under grandmaster level, trying to explain what they try to understand in a wrong way... An entertaining guy like tasteless doesn't bother me as long as he doesn't try too hard to explain the game and let artosis do it. Artosis is sometimes wrong at understanding the game but it only happens when a terran player desn't make a very conventional build so it is understandable since he doesn't play terran at all.
About doa, wolf and moletrap, my favorite is doa for the way he speaks but no one of them is good enough to be a good gsl caster, at least alone. They need someone who understands completly the game.
http://www.twitch.tv/becosmos
hewley
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1063 Posts
August 15 2011 19:29 GMT
#852
My biggest problem with Moletrap is that he doesn't bring anything new or analysis to the cast. I can accept humorous or laid-back commentary, but I cant accept just wrong reads or analysis. Especially with Doa and Moletrap, I often wonder whether they even played multiplayer in sc2.
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acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
August 15 2011 19:37 GMT
#853
On August 15 2011 20:32 gehgrfhgrh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 19:18 namste wrote:
On August 14 2011 02:29 itstheTB wrote:
moletrap + doa works really, really well. I hope they both can do Code A in the long term

need day[9] for Code S! would be epic


Moletrap + doa combo lacks the knowledge tho, they're entertaining and all that but can't really give any insight on anything like Wolf and Artosis can for example.


/facepalm

No one needs "Insight", thats bullshit. There is no "Insight" in SC2. It's all about the entertainment. I rather take Moletrap or Totalbiscuit than some retarded Pseudo-Grandmaster who is boring as hell.


I can't describe on how many levels this post is just wrong. Artosis/Wolf demonstrate real passion for the game by accurately explaining what is going on, what can happen, what is about to happen, etc (where many other casters fail). They spend an incredible amount of time researching/playing the game, and as a result are a level above some other casters. They can just as easily inject excitement into their voices during tense points of the match, and often do.

I don't mind moletrap and doa, but the viewing experience isn't as enjoyable when they make so many bad predictions, observing errors, and don't take the time to understand the game on a deeper level. It's mostly only a problem when the viewer is a player who can pick these things out, but that probably includes a lot of the viewership.
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
August 15 2011 19:40 GMT
#854
so much hate for moletrap in here. he gave up everything to pursue his dream in a completely different country and it's not good enough because his name isn't Artosis or Tasteless.
The Show of a Lifetime
cowpies
Profile Joined April 2010
United States43 Posts
August 15 2011 19:42 GMT
#855
I can't watch the games that moletrap casts. His voice ruins it for me
pewpew444
Profile Joined May 2011
United States121 Posts
August 15 2011 19:43 GMT
#856
I like the trio casters for Code A, it mixes up the duo every time and keeps it fresh. Moletrap is the weakest of the three in my opinion, but that doesn't mean he is bad.
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
August 15 2011 19:44 GMT
#857
I like moletrap because he is tolerable. Any caster who is tolerable and can bring excitement to the game is a good caster in my book!

So yeah... Keep up the good work!
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kanix
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden67 Posts
August 15 2011 19:46 GMT
#858
Nice hes a good caster! Congratz Moletrap !
To The Extreme!
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
August 15 2011 19:46 GMT
#859
On August 16 2011 04:42 cowpies wrote:
I can't watch the games that moletrap casts. His voice ruins it for me

Every time I get annoyed by a caster, I just mute the stream and turn on music. It is the best way to watch multiple user streams also.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 19:51:31
August 15 2011 19:51 GMT
#860
On August 16 2011 04:40 Terranist wrote:
so much hate for moletrap in here. he gave up everything to pursue his dream in a completely different country and it's not good enough because his name isn't Artosis or Tasteless.


You're generalizing quite a bit here. I am fine with Moletrap and Doa - I don't dislike them, I can listen to them, but they're far from my favorite casters. If you listen to what Tastetosis or Idra say when they cast compared to when Moletrap/Doa is casting, you can clearly tell that the former just know more about the game, and you actually learn and realize certain things that you didn't realize before when you listen to them. I find that far more enjoyable than just enthusiastic play-by-plays with mediocre analysis. Who knows - maybe Moletrap and Doa actually have great game knowledge and just don't communicate effectively on camera for some reason. I respect them, they're cool guys, but I have clear reasons for preferring Tastetosis beyond just their identities.
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