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Jimbooo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
203 Posts
August 01 2011 19:21 GMT
#21
The only thing im pretty sure is illegal is keeping the vods. Im not exactly sure about the restream but keeping free vods of mlg anaheim prolly isnt legal.
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
August 01 2011 19:21 GMT
#22
Just because it's free doesn't mean you can restream it. MLG probably copyrighted their broadcast
Bonkarooni
Profile Joined October 2010
United States383 Posts
August 01 2011 19:22 GMT
#23
On August 02 2011 04:12 FryktSkyene wrote:
I agree with above.

I'm pretty sure it's not legal to restream the free stream. You still get ads on the free stream and MLG makes money from that.


I'm pretty sure this is actually 100% illegal. Did you contact MLG before doing this?

Yes, you still get ads on the free stream, but if you restream, MLG is no longer making money from those ads. They make money for their ads based on how many viewers they get, and if 1,000 people are watching via your stream, they only get 1 viewer...

And i'm sure you're going to say "Well people who watched my stream probably couldnt watch the MLG stream, so they didn't lose any money" But i'm pretty sure they won't look at it that way. What if

a)Someone COULD of watched the MLG stream, but it was just easier to pull it up on justin.tv? b)What if someone thought MLG was corrupt/immoral/whatever for making money off of starcraft 2, and decided to deprive them of that money by watching your stream?

In reality, would a lot of people have done that? No probably not. Is there enough for a lawyer to make a case here if they really wanted to? Maybe.

You REALLY need to check into this kind of stuff before you stream someone elses content. I hope for your sake MLG doesn't pursue this
Octanepro
Profile Joined May 2011
United States416 Posts
August 01 2011 19:23 GMT
#24
On August 02 2011 04:21 awu25 wrote:
Just because it's free doesn't mean you can restream it. MLG probably copyrighted their broadcast


If you can show me a link that says it is illegal to re-stream their Free Public Stream. I will take this down right away. I am not looking to do anything illegal just looking to help out the Starcraft 2 & Team Liquid community.
Daily Terran Streaming - http://www.twitch.tv/octaneproscii
Octanepro
Profile Joined May 2011
United States416 Posts
August 01 2011 19:24 GMT
#25
On August 02 2011 04:22 Bonkarooni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 04:12 FryktSkyene wrote:
I agree with above.

I'm pretty sure it's not legal to restream the free stream. You still get ads on the free stream and MLG makes money from that.


I'm pretty sure this is actually 100% illegal. Did you contact MLG before doing this?

Yes, you still get ads on the free stream, but if you restream, MLG is no longer making money from those ads. They make money for their ads based on how many viewers they get, and if 1,000 people are watching via your stream, they only get 1 viewer...

And i'm sure you're going to say "Well people who watched my stream probably couldnt watch the MLG stream, so they didn't lose any money" But i'm pretty sure they won't look at it that way. What if

a)Someone COULD of watched the MLG stream, but it was just easier to pull it up on justin.tv? b)What if someone thought MLG was corrupt/immoral/whatever for making money off of starcraft 2, and decided to deprive them of that money by watching your stream?

In reality, would a lot of people have done that? No probably not. Is there enough for a lawyer to make a case here if they really wanted to? Maybe.

You REALLY need to check into this kind of stuff before you stream someone elses content. I hope for your sake MLG doesn't pursue this


MLG is no longer making money from this as the live stream is over. But if you can show me a link that says it is illegal to re-stream their Free Public Stream. I will take this down right away. I am not looking to do anything illegal just looking to help out the Starcraft 2 & Team Liquid community.
Daily Terran Streaming - http://www.twitch.tv/octaneproscii
Octanepro
Profile Joined May 2011
United States416 Posts
August 01 2011 19:24 GMT
#26
Jeez so many people hate the fact I have put this up to help out the Starcraft 2 and Team Liquid community. Does anyone even appreciate this at all? jeez
Daily Terran Streaming - http://www.twitch.tv/octaneproscii
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
August 01 2011 19:24 GMT
#27
Its copyrighted materiel, I am not going to waste time finding links for you from MLGs site on such an obvious infringement of THEIR product.
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
August 01 2011 19:25 GMT
#28
Thank you, god among men.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
th3_great
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom429 Posts
August 01 2011 19:25 GMT
#29
i might have it backwards here, but didnt Incontrol get into trouble for restreaming the GSL? even when he and idra did commentary over it two seasons ago they had to black the stream and put the gif of the dancing cat so they didnt show any images of the GSL.
I dont see how this is much different from that situation.
did you read the script?
Joseph123
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria1144 Posts
August 01 2011 19:27 GMT
#30
Thank you prefer that over the MLG player
croupier
Profile Joined July 2010
United States92 Posts
August 01 2011 19:27 GMT
#31
Thanks for trying to help the community Octanepro, it really is appreciated.

I couldn't find a "legal" page or "terms & conditions" page on the MLG site, but i would contact MLG and ask. It's the right thing to do. More work for you, i know, and that's probably not what you wanted to hear.

If they say that restreaming like this is not legal, then they should probably make that more obvious on their future events.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
August 01 2011 19:27 GMT
#32
you are so going to be shut down for copyright violations. just because they provided it to you free (with their ads), doesn't mean you get to take it and re-stream it. justin.tv is going to shut this down when they find out as they should. mlg relies on vod views (as well as live views) to sell its products. you are taking those away from them without their permission. shame on you.
HorsemasterK
Profile Joined August 2010
United States606 Posts
August 01 2011 19:29 GMT
#33
hang on, let me download these before the copyright white knights go cry to the cops. I bet using adblock is amoral in their eyes too.
Octanepro
Profile Joined May 2011
United States416 Posts
August 01 2011 19:30 GMT
#34
I will contact MLG before reposting the stream links. Thanks guys
I will contact MLG before reposting the stream links. Thanks guys
I will contact MLG before reposting the stream links. Thanks guys
I will contact MLG before reposting the stream links. Thanks guys
I will contact MLG before reposting the stream links. Thanks guys
Daily Terran Streaming - http://www.twitch.tv/octaneproscii
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 01 2011 19:30 GMT
#35
"Damn I missed Anaheim, oh well I'll just buy the vods. *Opens teamliquid* Oh wait, a free restream? And the the quality is pretty good anyway! ROFL fuck buying the stupid pass, than you illegal restreaming guy!"
Nerski
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1095 Posts
August 01 2011 19:31 GMT
#36
your taking money away from MLG your stream will be ban by jtv once MLG points it out to them
Twitter: @GoForNerski /// Youtube: Youtube.com/nerskisc
Jtn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
444 Posts
August 01 2011 19:31 GMT
#37
What on earth made you think this was okay to do?
well-named
Profile Joined June 2011
United States10 Posts
August 01 2011 19:32 GMT
#38
MLG Terms of Service


Section 5. Your Conduct

(E) The Website contains copyrighted material, trademarks and other proprietary information, including, but not limited to, text, software, photos, video, graphics, music and sound. The entire contents of the Website are copyrighted as a collective work under the United States copyright laws. MLG owns a copyright in the selection, coordination, arrangement and enhancement of such content, as well as in the content original to it. You may not modify, publish, transmit, participate in the transfer or sale, create derivative works, or in any way exploit, any of the content, in whole or in part. Except as otherwise expressly permitted under copyright law, no copying, redistribution, retransmission, publication or commercial or non-commercial exploitation of material on the Website will be permitted without the express permission of MLG and the copyright owner. In the event of any permitted copying, redistribution or publication of copyrighted material, no changes in or deletion of author attribution, trademark legend or copyright notice shall be made. You acknowledge that you do not acquire any ownership rights by accessing or otherwise using copyrighted material.


Emphasis is mine.

In short, re-transmitting is a violation of copyright law. It doesn't matter that it's their free stream, or that you aren't making money from it.

Not that what you are doing is some morally evil thing, but it's good to understand how copyright law in the US actually works and there is no doubt that re-transmitting recordings from the free stream violates MLG's copyrights on that material, and it does also potentially cost them some amount of lost ad revenue as well, which is enough of a reason not to do it, imo.
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Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 01 2011 19:32 GMT
#39
On August 02 2011 04:29 HorsemasterK wrote:
hang on, let me download these before the copyright white knights go cry to the cops. I bet using adblock is amoral in their eyes too.

Refer to my previous post to see why you're a douchebag.
1800STFU
Profile Joined February 2011
158 Posts
August 01 2011 19:32 GMT
#40
This guy is just trying to help out : /

Thank you good sir
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