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Octanepro
Profile Joined May 2011
United States416 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 19:31:44
August 01 2011 19:08 GMT
#1
I will contact MLG to make sure this is legal before reposting this, as you all scared me too much.
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arbitrageur
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1202 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 19:11:33
August 01 2011 19:10 GMT
#2
Doubt this is legal.
- What legal reasoning do you have for thinking that restreaming the free stream is legal?
- What legal reasoning do you have for thinking that storing these videos of the free stream for later (free) consumption is legal?
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
August 01 2011 19:12 GMT
#3
Yeah... I dont think restreams are/were allowed? Not to mention saving the VODs
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
Octanepro
Profile Joined May 2011
United States416 Posts
August 01 2011 19:12 GMT
#4
On August 02 2011 04:10 arbitrageur wrote:
Doubt this is legal.

I don't understand how I could be doing something illegal? This is just the MLG Public Stream re-streamed. This is not the HD Stream where people paid money for. I completely support MLG and would never restream their HD Stream. Just trying to help out the Team Liquid Community.
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FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
August 01 2011 19:12 GMT
#5
I agree with above.

I'm pretty sure it's not legal to restream the free stream. You still get ads on the free stream and MLG makes money from that.
Snitches get stiches
Octanepro
Profile Joined May 2011
United States416 Posts
August 01 2011 19:13 GMT
#6
On August 02 2011 04:12 JerKy wrote:
Yeah... I dont think restreams are/were allowed? Not to mention saving the VODs


The actually REPLAYS where not allowed. These are not the actually REPLAYS themselves. This is just exactly what was streamed at MLG's Website.

They didn't want the REPLAYS saved to protect the players.
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Octanepro
Profile Joined May 2011
United States416 Posts
August 01 2011 19:13 GMT
#7
On August 02 2011 04:12 FryktSkyene wrote:
I agree with above.

I'm pretty sure it's not legal to restream the free stream. You still get ads on the free stream and MLG makes money from that.


There are ADS in the VODS, as it was exactly what was re-streamed.
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arbitrageur
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia1202 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 19:14:45
August 01 2011 19:14 GMT
#8
On August 02 2011 04:12 Octanepro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 04:10 arbitrageur wrote:
Doubt this is legal.

I don't understand how I could be doing something illegal? This is just the MLG Public Stream re-streamed. This is not the HD Stream where people paid money for. I completely support MLG and would never restream their HD Stream. Just trying to help out the Team Liquid Community.

I'm not saying you're doing something immoral, I just doubt the legality of your actions and will continue to do so until some legal precedent is shown to me. Not that I actually care. I've screenshotted the URLs incase the thread gets deleted. So thank you from myself for the service, you've obviously put a lot of time into this.
Saishuuheiki
Profile Joined November 2010
United States188 Posts
August 01 2011 19:14 GMT
#9
Not sharing the replays is unrelated

This is much like the GSL. It's free to watch the GSL in LQ if you watch it live, but VODs are not free
Octanepro
Profile Joined May 2011
United States416 Posts
August 01 2011 19:15 GMT
#10
On August 02 2011 04:14 arbitrageur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 04:12 Octanepro wrote:
On August 02 2011 04:10 arbitrageur wrote:
Doubt this is legal.

I don't understand how I could be doing something illegal? This is just the MLG Public Stream re-streamed. This is not the HD Stream where people paid money for. I completely support MLG and would never restream their HD Stream. Just trying to help out the Team Liquid Community.

I'm not saying you're doing something immoral, I just doubt the legality of your actions and will continue to do so until some legal precedent is shown to me. Not that I actually care. I've screenshotted the URLs incase the thread gets deleted.


HAHA Thanks. MLG Actually re-streamed exactly what was on their website stream to Justin.tv because they where aware that alot of viewers couldn't view their website. A ton of other Justin.tv Members did the same thing.

I just went and put them in order and together for you guys. Just helping out the Team Liquid community.
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Octanepro
Profile Joined May 2011
United States416 Posts
August 01 2011 19:16 GMT
#11
On August 02 2011 04:14 Saishuuheiki wrote:
Not sharing the replays is unrelated

This is much like the GSL. It's free to watch the GSL in LQ if you watch it live, but VODs are not free


These are not Replay VODS this is the stream VODS. There is a difference.
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Fission
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1184 Posts
August 01 2011 19:17 GMT
#12
I'm almost completely sure this is illegal.
croupier
Profile Joined July 2010
United States92 Posts
August 01 2011 19:17 GMT
#13
I am one of the folks looking for MLG vods. Is there an "official" way that they're being made available for free or is that what the MLG pass for $9.99 is for?
DNA61289
Profile Joined August 2010
United States665 Posts
August 01 2011 19:17 GMT
#14
If it's on the internet it's free!! Don't you people know anything?...Might want to make sure it really is legal.
But yeah being a Korean gamer is very imba. If you're a non-korean gamer you have to balance your game playing with earning money and your real life. If you're Korean you just sit around playing games all day eating 2 cent ramyun and becoming gosu.
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
August 01 2011 19:18 GMT
#15
On August 02 2011 04:13 Octanepro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 04:12 FryktSkyene wrote:
I agree with above.

I'm pretty sure it's not legal to restream the free stream. You still get ads on the free stream and MLG makes money from that.


There are ADS in the VODS, as it was exactly what was re-streamed.

the difference is that when watching it through the MLG website they get hits that they can forward to their sponsors. This does nothing for them. Sure it's free exposure but MLG cant gauge it and hence it just becomes guesstimates(which are irrelevant).

untill proven illegal though I say good work, there will definitely be people who cant pay for a pass and didnt catch the whole free stream live.
Do you really want chat rooms?
Octanepro
Profile Joined May 2011
United States416 Posts
August 01 2011 19:18 GMT
#16
On August 02 2011 04:17 Fission wrote:
I'm almost completely sure this is illegal.


Show me a link to an MLG site that says this is illegal and i will take it down instantly. I don't want to break any rules.
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Octanepro
Profile Joined May 2011
United States416 Posts
August 01 2011 19:18 GMT
#17
On August 02 2011 04:17 croupier wrote:
I am one of the folks looking for MLG vods. Is there an "official" way that they're being made available for free or is that what the MLG pass for $9.99 is for?


I think you need to purchase the MLG HD package.
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Octanepro
Profile Joined May 2011
United States416 Posts
August 01 2011 19:19 GMT
#18
On August 02 2011 04:18 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 04:13 Octanepro wrote:
On August 02 2011 04:12 FryktSkyene wrote:
I agree with above.

I'm pretty sure it's not legal to restream the free stream. You still get ads on the free stream and MLG makes money from that.


There are ADS in the VODS, as it was exactly what was re-streamed.

the difference is that when watching it through the MLG website they get hits that they can forward to their sponsors. This does nothing for them. Sure it's free exposure but MLG cant gauge it and hence it just becomes guesstimates(which are irrelevant).

untill proven illegal though I say good work, there will definitely be people who cant pay for a pass and didnt catch the whole free stream live.


Thanks Man, just trying to help people out.

Show me a link to an MLG site that says this is illegal and i will take it down instantly. I don't want to break any rules.
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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 19:20:23
August 01 2011 19:19 GMT
#19
On August 02 2011 04:13 Octanepro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 04:12 FryktSkyene wrote:
I agree with above.

I'm pretty sure it's not legal to restream the free stream. You still get ads on the free stream and MLG makes money from that.


There are ADS in the VODS, as it was exactly what was re-streamed.


1. The "video" ads, i.e. recorded ads played back in the video, don't help MLG at all. If I said "Watch MLG, Dr. Pepper sponsors them", MLG receives no money from Dr. Pepper because I said that.

2. Any actual ads from watching these videos give YOU money.

tl;dr:

MLG gets no money from this. You get money from this. It's their product you're selling. That's not exactly legal.
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Octanepro
Profile Joined May 2011
United States416 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 19:20:44
August 01 2011 19:20 GMT
#20
On August 02 2011 04:19 Chargelot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 04:13 Octanepro wrote:
On August 02 2011 04:12 FryktSkyene wrote:
I agree with above.

I'm pretty sure it's not legal to restream the free stream. You still get ads on the free stream and MLG makes money from that.


There are ADS in the VODS, as it was exactly what was re-streamed.


1. The "video" ads, i.e. recorded ads played back in the video, don't help MLG at all. If I said "Watch MLG, Dr. Pepper sponsors them", MLG receives no money from Dr. Pepper.

2. Any actual ads from watching these videos give YOU money.

tl;dr:

MLG gets no money from this. You get money from this. It's their product you're selling. That's not exactly legal.


how do i get money for this? I just spent my free time today putting this together for people. There's no money to be made here. I am not looking to make money jeez
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