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bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
July 26 2011 04:13 GMT
#81
Australia outshining lots of far bigger countries in terms of viewers is kind of sad. Lift your game other countries! (I realise we have the best GSL viewing time as we are in an "Asian" timezone).
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
July 26 2011 04:16 GMT
#82
I believe I read somewhere on the Korean GOM site that they average 150,000+ people per night tuning in to the GSL.

So yeah, GSL is the biggest SC2 tournament in the world. Not surprised.

Hopefully the July finals are a huge success with a big turnout.
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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
July 26 2011 04:18 GMT
#83
On July 26 2011 12:32 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 12:26 lunchforthesky wrote:
On July 26 2011 12:24 jmbthirteen wrote:
On July 26 2011 12:19 InvalidID wrote:
On July 26 2011 12:18 jmbthirteen wrote:
This is lower than I expected. Mlg Columbus, a three day event, had 22.5 million views. So for 7 months of gsl to barely have a bit more than double that, it just seems low.


MLG Columbus also had mass refreshing, while that isn't really a problem with GSL. MLG is also at US prime time, versus with GOM where I imagine most of the US/EU views are from VODs due to the horrible time zone difference.

Its still 3 days vs 7 months of content. I don't care about the timezones and refreshes. Its 7 months compared to 3 days.


Did you actually watch MLG? I refresh about 100 times across the weekend and swapped between streams, between lq and hq.

Not to mention that MLG was free, and GSL charges.

Yes I watched. But gsl also has a free stream as well. Only charges for hq/vods. And yes, there were a ton of refreshes, but its still three days vs seven months. I tuned into gsl more times than I refreshed the mlg stream.

The thing is, if GSL is a special 3 days tourney, gathers all the like of Nestea,MC,Bomber, features Tastosis casting, with awesome preshow kpop, no disconnecting whatsoever, and at a lil bit reasonable time etc Im sure it would surpass MLG by miles
1800STFU
Profile Joined February 2011
158 Posts
July 26 2011 04:20 GMT
#84
I'd be REALLY curious to see the context behind these numbers.....

I dont think these can be a negative as it's pretty obvious the scene has grown tremendously.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 26 2011 04:23 GMT
#85
On July 26 2011 13:18 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 12:32 jmbthirteen wrote:
On July 26 2011 12:26 lunchforthesky wrote:
On July 26 2011 12:24 jmbthirteen wrote:
On July 26 2011 12:19 InvalidID wrote:
On July 26 2011 12:18 jmbthirteen wrote:
This is lower than I expected. Mlg Columbus, a three day event, had 22.5 million views. So for 7 months of gsl to barely have a bit more than double that, it just seems low.


MLG Columbus also had mass refreshing, while that isn't really a problem with GSL. MLG is also at US prime time, versus with GOM where I imagine most of the US/EU views are from VODs due to the horrible time zone difference.

Its still 3 days vs 7 months of content. I don't care about the timezones and refreshes. Its 7 months compared to 3 days.


Did you actually watch MLG? I refresh about 100 times across the weekend and swapped between streams, between lq and hq.

Not to mention that MLG was free, and GSL charges.

Yes I watched. But gsl also has a free stream as well. Only charges for hq/vods. And yes, there were a ton of refreshes, but its still three days vs seven months. I tuned into gsl more times than I refreshed the mlg stream.

The thing is, if GSL is a special 3 days tourney, gathers all the like of Nestea,MC,Bomber, features Tastosis casting, with awesome preshow kpop, no disconnecting whatsoever, and at a lil bit reasonable time etc Im sure it would surpass MLG by miles

I don't mean to imply mlg is better, I love and watch both. I just expected more views.
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InvalidID
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1050 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 04:31:52
July 26 2011 04:31 GMT
#86
On July 26 2011 13:23 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 13:18 Arceus wrote:
On July 26 2011 12:32 jmbthirteen wrote:
On July 26 2011 12:26 lunchforthesky wrote:
On July 26 2011 12:24 jmbthirteen wrote:
On July 26 2011 12:19 InvalidID wrote:
On July 26 2011 12:18 jmbthirteen wrote:
This is lower than I expected. Mlg Columbus, a three day event, had 22.5 million views. So for 7 months of gsl to barely have a bit more than double that, it just seems low.


MLG Columbus also had mass refreshing, while that isn't really a problem with GSL. MLG is also at US prime time, versus with GOM where I imagine most of the US/EU views are from VODs due to the horrible time zone difference.

Its still 3 days vs 7 months of content. I don't care about the timezones and refreshes. Its 7 months compared to 3 days.


Did you actually watch MLG? I refresh about 100 times across the weekend and swapped between streams, between lq and hq.

Not to mention that MLG was free, and GSL charges.

Yes I watched. But gsl also has a free stream as well. Only charges for hq/vods. And yes, there were a ton of refreshes, but its still three days vs seven months. I tuned into gsl more times than I refreshed the mlg stream.

The thing is, if GSL is a special 3 days tourney, gathers all the like of Nestea,MC,Bomber, features Tastosis casting, with awesome preshow kpop, no disconnecting whatsoever, and at a lil bit reasonable time etc Im sure it would surpass MLG by miles

I don't mean to imply mlg is better, I love and watch both. I just expected more views.



Not even that, but they could really bring in a lot of foreigner viewers by capitalizing on early round GSL games targeted to foreigners as a special event. For example, they could broadcast a match in the RO32 of the GSL featuring a player popular in the foreign community at a time bracket targeted to foreign viewers, but still somewhat reasonable for the players. 10 PM EST, for example, would be decent for the players(10AM), but still hit a prime time type bracket. For example, I don't think the Korean interest in say, Sheths RO32 Code A game was much higher then foreigner interest.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 26 2011 04:50 GMT
#87
sounds impressive but who knows how many unique that is, i watch the GSL probably ~100 times a year
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SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
July 26 2011 04:51 GMT
#88
where is Korea on the list?
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Flowjo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States928 Posts
July 26 2011 04:52 GMT
#89
On July 26 2011 13:51 SheaR619 wrote:
where is Korea on the list?


LOL. Sorry being rude, it's a list of foreign views lol.
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Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
July 26 2011 05:32 GMT
#90
But guys, GSL is dying remember? i thought we all believed the people saying that the GSL is in viewer count trouble? (citation needed)

Clearly this is an elaborate hoax and i for one, will NOT be fooled into positive thoughts.
theBizness
Profile Joined July 2011
United States696 Posts
July 26 2011 05:36 GMT
#91
MLG can be used as a rough point of reference, but I don't feel like it's a good comparison. As mentioned, the time zone difference makes a huge difference. Also, the use of the GOMplayer, while not a big deal for hardcore fans, will stop some people from giving it a try, while MLG is viewable without any additional installation.
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SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
July 26 2011 05:38 GMT
#92
On July 26 2011 14:32 Headnoob wrote:
But guys, GSL is dying remember? i thought we all believed the people saying that the GSL is in viewer count trouble? (citation needed)

Clearly this is an elaborate hoax and i for one, will NOT be fooled into positive thoughts.

I think that was referring to their live audiences.
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Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
July 26 2011 05:39 GMT
#93
Given that the most viewed VOD on gomtv.net has less than 1 million views I am incredibly skeptical about the 50 million viewer figure. And I am aware that that 1 million doesn't take into account non English versions or VODs uploaded to other sites like Youtube.
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
July 26 2011 05:40 GMT
#94
Number of views is actually more relevant to ads than "number of viewers"
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RedHelix
Profile Joined August 2010
250 Posts
July 26 2011 05:44 GMT
#95
That's extremely impressive considering what insane times it is for most foreign countries, especially US time, a year ago I never would have thought to be watching a starcraft 2 tournament almost every day at 5 AM. Just goes to show what great production value, good casting and a good, consistent stream can do.
nukeazerg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States168 Posts
July 26 2011 05:46 GMT
#96
I bet they only have around 30k who pay for the ticket. Each of the Vods says they have 60,000 views but the first set is free. I just watch the first set once in awhile but never pay for it.
vertical101
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong311 Posts
July 26 2011 05:47 GMT
#97
wow i see japan on the list of the rankings of countries that watch GSL
HydraLF
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong626 Posts
July 26 2011 05:47 GMT
#98
I'm surprised that Japan is on the list (esp above UK wow)
Sure.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
July 26 2011 06:58 GMT
#99
What most amazes me is China's 12 million views in *two* months (May and June).

Also, the huge foreign numbers aren't too surprising, as you can see how the GSL has been making a very conscious effort to be foreigner friendly, first with the Code A seeding, then the MLG exchange program, ect.

But China... if the non-Chinese/Korean viewership is 50 mil for 6 months, China is going to be their most important market. I guess it's not too surprising since China is probably the biggest War3 scene and the year they hosted WCG they got like 100k people in attendance.

Best thing that could happen to GSL now is if Moon makes a deep Code A run next season lol.
madstarcraft
Profile Joined May 2011
United States103 Posts
July 26 2011 08:07 GMT
#100
well this is total views not at 1 time, sooo not really that shocking, but nevertheless this is great for esports
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