• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:02
CET 23:02
KST 07:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win1Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)35
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey!
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Which foreign pros are considered the best? Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Understand The Significa…
leoparker22
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1682 users

50 millions foreign GSL viewers in 2011 - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
July 26 2011 02:58 GMT
#21
Pretty impressive considering the not so foreign friendly time slots. Would like to see unique views and also Korean views.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
July 26 2011 02:59 GMT
#22
On July 26 2011 11:56 Jonas wrote:
Someone explain to me why this isn't on Television in the US? I mean, really. This is way more views than some current television stations get


Because Starcraft doesn't fit into TV's 1 hour blocks and in order to attract the general audience, you have to dumb it down, which the typical SC2 fan wouldn't enjoy.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
July 26 2011 03:00 GMT
#23
I wouldn't be surprised if korean views were much smaller. The turnouts to the GSL finals weren't too impressive given the density of korea and also being completely free with a live performance from a famous kpop group. GSL also happens at the same time as some important sc1 matches as well.
Applecakes
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia319 Posts
July 26 2011 03:01 GMT
#24
http://thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=715354&category=13438

◈ Number of watching foreign GSL (cumulative) Rank

USA 1
Canada 2
Sweden 3
Australia 4
UK 5
Germany 6
Norway 7
Denmark 8
France 9
Dutch 10
Finland 11
Singapore 12
New Zealand 13
Austria 14
Brazil 15
Switzerland 16
Belgium 17
Poland 18
Ireland 19
Japan 20
MicroTastiC
Profile Joined January 2011
375 Posts
July 26 2011 03:02 GMT
#25
are these views unique?
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
July 26 2011 03:02 GMT
#26
wow japan is top 20 o.o, not china?
fuck lag
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
July 26 2011 03:03 GMT
#27
On July 26 2011 12:02 ZidaneTribal wrote:
wow japan is top 20 o.o, not china?

those aren't including china
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 26 2011 03:03 GMT
#28
If we assume 100 "air days" through the Super Tournament, that's roughly 500k views per day.

If we assume 180 "air days" through the Super Tournament (since there's days with double blocks, and I don't feel like counting them all up), that's roughly 300k views per day.

Either way, that's a whole lot more than I was expecting.

Why don't they air any commercials during the downtime for the English stream? That's better than most of the cable channels get here it the States, lol.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 26 2011 03:04 GMT
#29
Does that include what airs on Korean TV 3 days a week?
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
July 26 2011 03:05 GMT
#30
Denmark 8th, woohoo! :D That's quite unexpected lol. Considering how small a population we have.

I agree that 50 million viewers is misleading because it's not unique viewers, so hard to get an image of how many actually watch GSL. Would be cool to see numbers fir highest and average simultaneous viewers.
@Munck
SLTR.Maverick
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada142 Posts
July 26 2011 03:05 GMT
#31
Woah, that's surprising. I'm glad they got so many foreign views. I wonder how many Korean views they had?

I know MLG Columbus got almost half that in 3 days but I still think its quite impressive considering MLG is a foreign tournament that should be getting those foreign views.
[S]laughter Gaming
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
July 26 2011 03:06 GMT
#32
The poll is kind hard to answer. How is a person supposed to estimate these kind of #s? Theres been many GSL events, and so many repeat viewers its just nearly impossible to even come remotely close to any kind of #.
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1601 Posts
July 26 2011 03:06 GMT
#33
On July 26 2011 11:45 CursedFeanor wrote:
GomTV has apparently released some numbers about its viewership according to this source. Over 50 millions viewers in the first half of 2011 is indeed an impressive feat! It would be interesting to know how many unique viewers there are too...

Poll: Does GSL gets more or less viewers than you expected?

I thought GSL had less viewers. (472)
 
92%

I thought GSL had more viewers. (24)
 
5%

I thought GSL had about this number of viewers. (17)
 
3%

513 total votes

Your vote: Does GSL gets more or less viewers than you expected?

(Vote): I thought GSL had less viewers.
(Vote): I thought GSL had about this number of viewers.
(Vote): I thought GSL had more viewers.



Considering we've heard recently that the sc2 scene in korea is not doing too well, this seems surprising to me personally. What do you think?


That is why I would really like to know.
How many people actually subscribe per event.

Then we could work out how much money is working towards improving the stream quality and how much is going into their pockets. I personally wouldn't mind paying $5 per season even if almost all of it went into their pockets, but with advertising they probably make enough cash to pay for the stream to US as is. I just wish they wouldn't just attempt to capitalize so much off of foreign viewers, because when their contract is up with Blizzard, someone cheaper will come around.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
July 26 2011 03:06 GMT
#34
I honestly thought it would be much much lower than this. I so happy I'm wrong though


I'm really interested in a country wise break up.
MonkSEA
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia1227 Posts
July 26 2011 03:07 GMT
#35
I'm interested in the live viewer ship of it. I would expect Australia being #1 just because of the time it's on. Dunno though (x
http://www.youtube.com/user/sirmonkeh Zerg Live Casts and Commentary!
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
July 26 2011 03:07 GMT
#36
On July 26 2011 12:05 SLTR.Maverick wrote:
Woah, that's surprising. I'm glad they got so many foreign views. I wonder how many Korean views they had?

I know MLG Columbus got almost half that in 3 days but I still think its quite impressive considering MLG is a foreign tournament that should be getting those foreign views.


Well the MLG stream was filled with people refreshing for lag and tabbing between streams. I watch all weekend and probably contributing 100 views alone if not more.
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
July 26 2011 03:07 GMT
#37
I can't stop laughing thinking how how Justin bieber's MV and Friday both have more views than this lol.
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
July 26 2011 03:08 GMT
#38
On July 26 2011 12:06 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 11:45 CursedFeanor wrote:
GomTV has apparently released some numbers about its viewership according to this source. Over 50 millions viewers in the first half of 2011 is indeed an impressive feat! It would be interesting to know how many unique viewers there are too...

Poll: Does GSL gets more or less viewers than you expected?

I thought GSL had less viewers. (472)
 
92%

I thought GSL had more viewers. (24)
 
5%

I thought GSL had about this number of viewers. (17)
 
3%

513 total votes

Your vote: Does GSL gets more or less viewers than you expected?

(Vote): I thought GSL had less viewers.
(Vote): I thought GSL had about this number of viewers.
(Vote): I thought GSL had more viewers.



Considering we've heard recently that the sc2 scene in korea is not doing too well, this seems surprising to me personally. What do you think?


That is why I would really like to know.
How many people actually subscribe per event.

Then we could work out how much money is working towards improving the stream quality and how much is going into their pockets. I personally wouldn't mind paying $5 per season even if almost all of it went into their pockets, but with advertising they probably make enough cash to pay for the stream to US as is. I just wish they wouldn't just attempt to capitalize so much off of foreign viewers, because when their contract is up with Blizzard, someone cheaper will come around.


GSL is cheap already. It costs about the price of a movie and you get a months entertainment.
GeorgeForeman
Profile Joined April 2005
United States1746 Posts
July 26 2011 03:11 GMT
#39
There was no "I have no way of contextualizing that number" option. :-(
like a school bus through a bunch of kids
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 03:12:44
July 26 2011 03:11 GMT
#40
On July 26 2011 11:56 lunchforthesky wrote:
To put this in context, Husky has 72 million views. Of course that is since June 2009 and you don't pay to watch Husky. Where as the majority of those views will be paying subscribers.

There's so much more you need to know though. For example, how many unique views, is this just on the live stream, or just the vods or both? When I watch a seven game series does this count me seven times or just once? If I watch the same vod twice does that count as 2 views or 1?

Really hard to read much into such an open ended stat.


1) They said it was Vods + Live
2) Series = 1 vod. So it counts you only once
3) I don't know if watching twice counts as 2 views, but I doubt that has much of a difference on the results. I actually just tried to try some form of pseudo scientific test, but even that failed because every time I refresh, it has went up by like 4-5 views

I'm pretty certain its a bloated stat though. Most people only release the best stat they have, and they figured that was it. It is kinda like when a product says it can DO THIS UP TO (number here)% or something. I just automatically divide by half and subtract my favorite number.
We talkin about PRACTICE
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 58m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 242
JuggernautJason176
ForJumy 42
CosmosSc2 16
ProTech13
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 1318
Shuttle 204
UpATreeSC 132
Dota 2
syndereN161
Counter-Strike
FalleN 2635
Coldzera 1406
byalli1198
shoxiejesuss1078
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor157
Other Games
gofns12836
tarik_tv4873
Grubby1633
FrodaN1324
Beastyqt738
ToD291
Liquid`Hasu276
C9.Mang0128
Mew2King127
QueenE92
Livibee87
KnowMe25
Liquid`Ken1
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 23
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 32
• Adnapsc2 15
• Reevou 5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 69
• RayReign 32
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade1534
• Shiphtur576
Other Games
• imaqtpie2202
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
2h 58m
Replay Cast
10h 58m
RongYI Cup
12h 58m
herO vs Solar
TriGGeR vs Maru
WardiTV Invitational
15h 58m
The PondCast
1d 10h
HomeStory Cup
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
HomeStory Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
HomeStory Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-26
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.