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dcsoda
Profile Joined June 2011
United States583 Posts
July 26 2011 00:17 GMT
#41
I don't think we need anymore comparisons to other sports. The only reason that teams talk to teams there is because it is always a trade situation. This is a different beast since there was no trade planned but an acquisition of an uncontracted player. Unless we get a system similar to this there will be no impetus for teams to contact other teams unless it is in the players contract...which PuMa didn't have.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 26 2011 00:17 GMT
#42
Here's a question: does EG usually go around asking random players at tournaments (who are already affiliated with teams) if they'd like to join? Do they already know if these players have contracts? Do they ever consider making business proposals to management, or do they just go around sniffing for players?
VoAchilles
Profile Joined January 2011
United States82 Posts
July 26 2011 00:17 GMT
#43
Well written. Glad to see this come out.
History shall be kind to me, for I intend to write it. - Winston Churchill
Deadiam
Profile Joined October 2010
United States69 Posts
July 26 2011 00:17 GMT
#44
On July 26 2011 09:13 Ingebrigtsen wrote:
Why would they need to apoligies to Milkis. They were never rude to him, and he just said the same thing over and over again untill most people in chat were flipping tables because of it.


Never rude? Did you watch the same interview. Milkis tries to good good things for the community by bring news of abroad and they completely shit on him, especially the last 15 minutes. Honestly, Milkis was not the right one to have on the other side of the debate, I knew from the get go it was going to be a slaughter.

The guy, without a doubt, deserves an apology.
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Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 26 2011 00:17 GMT
#45
On July 26 2011 09:16 aderum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 09:15 zeru wrote:
Still no apology to milkis? Extremely disappointed.



Does he have to apologies for having a different opinion then him and debating that with him? What?

he deserves an apology after being accused of dishonest journalism and defamation, to say the least.
Samp
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada783 Posts
July 26 2011 00:18 GMT
#46
nice, good recruit for EG =)!
Banelings, "They're cute, they live in a nest". -Artosis
trikshun
Profile Joined October 2010
United States437 Posts
July 26 2011 00:18 GMT
#47
On July 26 2011 09:16 jambOng wrote:
Where's the Milkis apology? Completely unprofessional.

How is that completely unprofessional. He had a debate. Look he just typed this whole thing out give him a break
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 00:20:30
July 26 2011 00:19 GMT
#48
Milkis needs an apology too ):

I think the problem is that EG approached Puma who everyone knew is already with TSL. He may not be contracted but he's still a part of TSL...
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awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
July 26 2011 00:19 GMT
#49
On July 26 2011 09:16 aderum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 09:15 zeru wrote:
Still no apology to milkis? Extremely disappointed.



Does he have to apologies for having a different opinion then him and debating that with him? What?

How can you debate with a translator...
storm44
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1293 Posts
July 26 2011 00:19 GMT
#50
On July 26 2011 09:18 trikshun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 09:16 jambOng wrote:
Where's the Milkis apology? Completely unprofessional.

How is that completely unprofessional. He had a debate. Look he just typed this whole thing out give him a break


Its not a debate when Alex attacks him and when Milkis tries to defend himself Wheat cuts him off repeatedly.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 26 2011 00:20 GMT
#51
On July 26 2011 09:16 aderum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 09:15 zeru wrote:
Still no apology to milkis? Extremely disappointed.



Does he have to apologies for having a different opinion then him and debating that with him? What?

No, for accusing him of not being a good journalist (when he was just a translator) at the end of Weapon of Choice. Alot of people in the community, including TLO/Tyler, called him out for that, and apparently even DJWheat apologized to Milkis for that happening after WoC.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18820 Posts
July 26 2011 00:20 GMT
#52
On July 26 2011 09:17 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 09:16 aderum wrote:
On July 26 2011 09:15 zeru wrote:
Still no apology to milkis? Extremely disappointed.



Does he have to apologies for having a different opinion then him and debating that with him? What?

he deserves an apology after being accused of dishonest journalism and defamation, to say the least.

Well after the information that has come to light, Milikis effectively promulgated and defended outright incorrect information. Maybe not with his translation, but with his decision to appear on Lo3 his side was clear.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
July 26 2011 00:20 GMT
#53
Well, this is nice and all, but:

-Milkis deserves an apology as well
-Just don't let this happen again
-Even if he wasn't under contract, it's still fishy

I don't think I can, personally, like EG again, but it doesn't really matter, I'm just a spectator. An apology is nice, that's all there's to say, and hopefully the drama can now be put to a rest, while people involved learn everything they can from this situation.
Ezze
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada934 Posts
July 26 2011 00:20 GMT
#54
On July 26 2011 09:17 Shiori wrote:
Here's a question: does EG usually go around asking random players at tournaments (who are already affiliated with teams) if they'd like to join? Do they already know if these players have contracts? Do they ever consider making business proposals to management, or do they just go around sniffing for players?


I'd like to know too!
Toxi78
Profile Joined May 2010
966 Posts
July 26 2011 00:21 GMT
#55
after reading this post I feel like you just wrote over and over again that puma should speak with mr lee first, we got it, no need to write it a thousand times.
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
July 26 2011 00:21 GMT
#56
I think the unfortunate part is that most of the people who are ragging on EG, even after watching WoC, probably won't read/understand this either, heh.

But i'm glad it's here for people to see at least!
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 26 2011 00:21 GMT
#57
On July 26 2011 09:18 trikshun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 09:16 jambOng wrote:
Where's the Milkis apology? Completely unprofessional.

How is that completely unprofessional. He had a debate. Look he just typed this whole thing out give him a break

He did call Milkis unprofessional, accused him of defamation, and called him a bad journalist for just translating a PlayXP article.
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
July 26 2011 00:21 GMT
#58
Also, why did it take this long for your side of the story?
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 26 2011 00:21 GMT
#59
On July 26 2011 09:21 Toxi78 wrote:
after reading this post I feel like you just wrote over and over again that puma should speak with mr lee first, we got it, no need to write it a thousand times.

While reading this I was thinking that he writes just like he talks lol (no disrespect intended, but anyone who saw his podcast/show appearances knows what I'm talking about lol)
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
July 26 2011 00:21 GMT
#60
I appreciate the whole PR speech to calm the flames (that were pretty much dead), but I'm now more interested on where Puma is going to go. How are you going to make him a better player? Yes, he is now a better paid player, but what are the plans to make him the best player he can be? Him moving to the USA to the EG team house, in my opinion, and no offense, would be a drastic drop off to the practice he was getting in Korea. The practice partners aren't as good, ladder is way below Korea's, and there isn't the coaching staff that TSL had. If he stays in Korea, where will he practice? I am sure that he will bring the skill level of the EG players with how good of a terran he is, but how will he become a better player?
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