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LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
July 21 2011 16:50 GMT
#3561
All of you guys are fucking retarded.

EG did nothing wrong. They went to the player, who the ultimate decision belongs to, and sent him an offer. He thought about it, he talked to his coach about it, he accepted it.

Get off your high horse and stop all of the crying.
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
July 21 2011 16:50 GMT
#3562
On July 22 2011 01:46 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 01:44 Mioraka wrote:
I like how most people think EG's move is perfectly fine and good for them, while half of thepeople hate what they did, and the reason they did it is for marketing.

If your move make half of the people hate ur brand image, that's not a good move, that's a retarded move.


Well, this is the team that has kept IdrA all this time...


Yeah hes just one of the best non korean players in the world, they're so dumb !!

seriously? Think before you hit the submit button please.
Master League Zerg - EGIdrA - IMNesTea - EGMachine - EGIncoNtrol - IMLosirA - Destiny - MVPDRG -
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
July 21 2011 16:50 GMT
#3563
On July 22 2011 01:49 RusHXceL wrote:
Liquid now needs a Korean to join their team lol.



Liquid'Foxer FIGHTING!!!!

Would be so sick.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Telebear
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom107 Posts
July 21 2011 16:51 GMT
#3564
On July 22 2011 01:46 canikizu wrote:

Legally EG did nothing wrong, but in a moral-driven Korean esports business, EG did everything wrong.




its business it has no place for morals and respect only to make as much money as possible this is true whether you're american, korean or any other nationality
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
July 21 2011 16:51 GMT
#3565
On July 22 2011 01:50 LovE-z33k wrote:
All of you guys are fucking retarded.

EG did nothing wrong. They went to the player, who the ultimate decision belongs to, and sent him an offer. He thought about it, he talked to his coach about it, he accepted it.

Get off your high horse and stop all of the crying.


Yeah agree, Its just funny some ( most of the TL ) posters think they have the right to decide whats right or wrong and judge people.
Master League Zerg - EGIdrA - IMNesTea - EGMachine - EGIncoNtrol - IMLosirA - Destiny - MVPDRG -
Lankeer
Profile Joined July 2011
35 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 16:52:00
July 21 2011 16:51 GMT
#3566
On July 22 2011 01:49 stratmatt wrote:
ITT: A bunch of people who have no idea what playing for TSL was like and have no idea exactly how their team was structured crying over a great sc2 player pursuing a life oppurtunity that he obviously feels was a better direction to go in. In fact, they are more concerned about some COACH's feelings than the players. Seriously, the COACH...what has he won again? So pathetic.

Lol that's a retarded view. So apparently the ONLY people who deserve to be treated fairly in the esports business are the players? Let's just forget the hundreds/thousands of people that work tirelessly behind the scenes to help and support esports. Coach Lee gave his time to help the players of TSL become who they are.
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
July 21 2011 16:51 GMT
#3567
This is made more hilarious because of that "korean values" talk, the korean business practices are some of the most corrupt in the entire world. This is all about a bad manager butthurt because his team is falling apart.
Mioraka
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada1353 Posts
July 21 2011 16:51 GMT
#3568
On July 22 2011 01:46 Grimsong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 01:44 Mioraka wrote:
I like how most people think EG's move is perfectly fine and good for them, while half of thepeople hate what they did, and the reason they did it is for marketing.

If your move make half of the people hate ur brand image, that's not a good move, that's a retarded move.


Can't control peoples opinions. EG did the best for EG. Puma did the best for Puma. If TSL did the best for TSL, this thread never exists.

I don't think you understand the purpose of marketing....
RoyalCheese
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic745 Posts
July 21 2011 16:51 GMT
#3569
On July 22 2011 01:50 LovE-z33k wrote:
All of you guys are fucking retarded.

EG did nothing wrong. They went to the player, who the ultimate decision belongs to, and sent him an offer. He thought about it, he talked to his coach about it, he accepted it.

Get off your high horse and stop all of the crying.


This. I love how so many TL-ers think that their opinion actually matters.
Kennigit: "Chill was once able to retire really young, but decided to donate his entire salary TO SUPPORT ESPORTS"
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
July 21 2011 16:51 GMT
#3570
On July 22 2011 01:50 berserkboar wrote:
okay i officially hate foreigners peace out

Have fun posting on playxp, we won't miss ya.
Capook
Profile Joined April 2010
United States122 Posts
July 21 2011 16:51 GMT
#3571
Why are people mad that the TSL coach wasn't contacted? Is it really the tradition in Korea that you're supposed to ask somebody's current boss permission to hire that person?

It is certainly not this way in the west...

Of course if Puma is violating some contract then there's a legal issue, but nobody seems to be accusing anybody of breach of contract. Why all the rage?
berserkboar
Profile Joined June 2011
114 Posts
July 21 2011 16:52 GMT
#3572
okay stop it and please dont cuss you guys are messed up
:(
Leafren
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium66 Posts
July 21 2011 16:52 GMT
#3573
Assuming we know everything there is to know:

Of course EG has the 'right' to do this. However I dont think its respectful towards TSL to approach a player directly. As mentioned, in professional sports moves like this are forbiden outside of the transfer window for obvious reasons. If we want eSPORTS to grow and especially become more professional, moves like this shouldn't be tolerated in my opinion.

lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
July 21 2011 16:52 GMT
#3574
On July 22 2011 01:50 LovE-z33k wrote:
All of you guys are fucking retarded.

EG did nothing wrong. They went to the player, who the ultimate decision belongs to, and sent him an offer. He thought about it, he talked to his coach about it, he accepted it.

Get off your high horse and stop all of the crying.


You have no idea about business.
berserkboar
Profile Joined June 2011
114 Posts
July 21 2011 16:52 GMT
#3575
On July 22 2011 01:51 Sandro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 01:50 berserkboar wrote:
okay i officially hate foreigners peace out

Have fun posting on playxp, we won't miss ya.

i miss you
:(
lunchforthesky
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom967 Posts
July 21 2011 16:53 GMT
#3576
On July 22 2011 01:51 Capook wrote:
Why are people mad that the TSL coach wasn't contacted? Is it really the tradition in Korea that you're supposed to ask somebody's current boss permission to hire that person?

It is certainly not this way in the west...

Of course if Puma is violating some contract then there's a legal issue, but nobody seems to be accusing anybody of breach of contract. Why all the rage?


It is that way in the West.
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
July 21 2011 16:53 GMT
#3577
Korea is so honorable in their business practices, just look at how they treat their pop idols for one!
ploy
Profile Joined January 2006
United States416 Posts
July 21 2011 16:53 GMT
#3578
On July 22 2011 01:47 doihy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 01:40 fush wrote:
On July 22 2011 01:39 doihy wrote:
On July 22 2011 01:32 enecateReAP wrote:
I challange each and every one of you, to stay in your current job and never move up - because then you'll be betraying your former employer!

In the real world, you don't offer a person's job to the person's boss, you offer it to the person, then it is THEIR DECISSION weather they accept. This was the case here.


Without TSL, he wouldn't have a practice house

Without TSL, he wouldn't have a salary

Without TSL he wouldn't have gotten to show how good he is in the team league.

Without TSL, he wouldn't have convenient practice partners to play with. (oh please don't list that koreans practice with ppl from other teams, they were all people who have been eliminated from the gsl, if they were still in the gsl they would have been too busy to practice from someone from another team)

Without a team, he could have not entered the NASL open tournament

Without TSL, he would have never gotten a plane ticket


Without TSL, Puma would be a fucking nobody.

So puma can just leave cause he is a sell out with lack of respect?
And you people can't see anything wrong with that?


by your logic you should stay at your own home and be a servant to your parents. or work forever at your entry level job.

seems like we're all fucking sellouts with no respect.


No i agree with you, i was wrong, it's not like a pro gamer is any different from a "real job", both of them you live with your co workers, you interact with them all day, they are your friends... Oh wait....


You are seriously stupid and naive. You must be really young or something. Anyone whose friend left their identical job for an upgrade would understand. It's seriously standard practice. If Puma was on a team before TSL (not sure if he was or wasn't), then by your logic he shouldn't have left that team.

You say Puma wouldn't be who he is today without TSL.

Well, Puma also wouldn't be who he is today if he didn't leave those behind that aren't in his best interest to move up.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
July 21 2011 16:53 GMT
#3579
On July 22 2011 01:50 Moralez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2011 01:46 TheDougler wrote:
On July 22 2011 01:44 Mioraka wrote:
I like how most people think EG's move is perfectly fine and good for them, while half of thepeople hate what they did, and the reason they did it is for marketing.

If your move make half of the people hate ur brand image, that's not a good move, that's a retarded move.


Well, this is the team that has kept IdrA all this time...


Yeah hes just one of the best non korean players in the world, they're so dumb !!

seriously? Think before you hit the submit button please.


Hmm? I think Idra's a fantastic player, the quote I was responding to was talking about publicity and I was saying that any publicity is good publicity, IdrA is imo THE BEST example of that in e-sports. He gets a lot a views for some of his less well mannered antics, and from there generates both fans and anti-fans, all of which help EG.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
berserkboar
Profile Joined June 2011
114 Posts
July 21 2011 16:53 GMT
#3580
On July 22 2011 01:52 Leafren wrote:
Assuming we know everything there is to know:

Of course EG has the 'right' to do this. However I dont think its respectful towards TSL to approach a player directly. As mentioned, in professional sports moves like this are forbiden outside of the transfer window for obvious reasons. If we want eSPORTS to grow and especially become more professional, moves like this shouldn't be tolerated in my opinion.


hello i agree
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