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Page 26 and onwards I will issue at least two day bans to anyone who clearly has not read the original topic post and the explanations contained therein. He was barred access to the event days before the actual event took place and used some random diamond player his account to try and get in anyway.
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On July 19 2011 01:35 naggerNZ wrote:
I'm not saying what he did wasn't wrong, but really I don't get why the controversy.
On July 18 2011 11:04 evoli wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 10:59 DeepBlu2 wrote:
I don't think Artosis, or sixjax (evoli) has anything to say about it.. It's not the first time someone has done this, and yeah, he deserves to lose respect IF it's proven true... But this isn't the worst backlash he has gotten from the community (think sixjax recruitment) so it shouldn't affect anything. People are just overreacting. And the site will load, be patient, it loaded for me after a minute.. -_- I was traveling from San Francisco back home when this happened. When I came home I talked to everyone involved. I've already talked to Kelly Milkies, another admin, and Juan about it. All and all, relatively small potatoes. I hope their events go with out a hitch in the future, and I'm sorry that Juan caused a hiccup in what was supposed to be a fun event for the folks of the oft neglected SEA server.
Because evoli, the team manager for sixjax, didn't take it seriously at first. Then things snowballed right into hell. Now that it's melted and Major posted everythings REALLY gone crazy.
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On July 19 2011 01:35 naggerNZ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2011 01:25 arbitrageur wrote:On July 19 2011 01:05 naggerNZ wrote:
From what I've read in the OP and it's responses, he never cheated in the tournament. Unless you consider being way, way better than everyone else cheating. Strawman. Also when you use "its" for possession you don't include the '. "It's" strictly means "it is". Haha it's 4:30 in the morning. Forgive my punctuation. All I'm saying is that this is nowhere near as big of a deal as everyone is making it out to be, and this issue was already resolved. I don't give a shit, and I'm sick of so called "SEA server representatives" making out that most SEA players will be absolutely shocked and appalled. The rule blocking non-SEA residents is ridiculous, so trying to make Major out to be some big eSports villain, doing serious damage to the SEA scene is just childish. No one he played against were really at any disadvantage, so the most they can complain about is being beaten by a guy who shouldn't have been there due to a requirements technicality. He's by far the best player on SixJax, and is probably one of the best Terrans on NA. I'm not saying what he did wasn't wrong, but really I don't get why the controversy.
Having "one of the best Terrans on NA" cheat and lie his way through a tournament - no matter on which server it is - is not a huge controversy (considering major's terrible reputation in the scene as is), but it should still be brought to everyone's attention. It's important that people are made aware what kind of person and what kind of representative major is so infractions like these do not go unnoticed [and ideally, unpunished, but there's been no word from sixjax so I guess nothing won't be happening there. He will be banned from future Dox/SEA tournament as I understand, and major got pretty lucky that he's not in deep shit for cheating in a money tournament and lying in a tournament admin's face].
How is a kid like major supposed to learn if there are no consequences for his actions?
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On July 19 2011 01:35 t3tsubo wrote:
sixjax.major read the OP of the tourney and understood it to mean anyone with a valid SEA account could play, then was told by the manager that he actually meant only SEA citizens could play, but by that time he had already passed on another tournament that was going on at the same time as this one so he was left with no tournament to play for that block of time, so he resorted to smurfing.
Both parties at fault and unsatisfactory resolution for everyone but o wells e-drama all around. Nope, re-read the OP and this thread.
major was informed of the rules and him not being non-eligible five days before the tournament and already admitted in this thread that he smurfed because he "was pissed to the max".
Hardly a compelling reason for cheating and lying. :/
On July 19 2011 01:40 AeonStrife wrote:
Huge thread. No official announcement from Mr. Princess or sixjax? I am interested in their comments in this debacle. Everyones post is starting to be same recycled rant.
Nothing from sixjax, major posted three times in this thread, explaining why he did what he did [see above for a summary].
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United States528 Posts
From my point of view, even if there is ambiguity in who can play and who can't - in regards to rule on SEA citizens - he was still told he can't play in it 5 days prior to the tourney. That should have been the end of story, pure and simple.
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What the heck are you discussing about for 52 pages?
Major got told he couldn't play 5 days before the tournament, that's where the whole story should've been over.
But no, he decided to trick his way into it, fucking it up for some of the players, go caught and on top of that decided he was in a position to be a dick about all of it and had the right to call the admin a fag.
The dude setting up the tourney could have been a bit more clear about the situation (he even admitted that himself). But they still told Major 5 (FIVE) days before that, that's more than enough time to get fucking over it.
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On July 19 2011 01:40 AeonStrife wrote:
Huge thread. No official announcement from Mr. Princess or sixjax? I am interested in their comments in this debacle. Everyones post is starting to be same recycled rant.
Here is Majors (spoilers)
On July 19 2011 01:28 Bobster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 21:09 sixjaxMajor wrote:On July 18 2011 20:52 Ipp wrote:There is fault on both sides, just because Major has a bad past he is getting the huge PR Hit. Maybe I'm wrong but here is how I understand everything went down. - The official post states "Anyone with a valid SEA battle.net account can participate."
- Major buys a SEA Account expecting to compensate himself with tournament winnings.
- Major doesn't get seeded, and asks why.
- Admin says "You are not SEA Citizen", which is in the TL Tracker but not the forum post. Expecting a person to read both the TL Tracker + Official post is a little bit much.
- Upset Major, decides to smurf even after the admin said he couldn't play as a "F U for making me spend ~$60 for nothing."
Was Major right in smurfing? No. But the mistake was on both parties in this case. In my opinion they should not of kicked him out but if he won they should have given the prize money to the account holder. It would be up to the account holder to decide if Major gets the money or not, so if it was just a random person on the internet chances are Major wouldn't get paid anyways and he cannot complain about anything. Smurfing happens. We had an oGs player smurf one of the RQTV Opens but without explicit rules, I doubt the community would react this way. The only reason this is a "big deal" is because it is infact Major. I could understand if he didn't perform well in MLG but cut the man some slack. pretty much sum up everything and yes i didnt had to buy an account on the sea server but i had to use the playtime i had avaible for some other tourney cause missleading thread, i talked with Del 3-4 days before event asking if he could lend me an account to play on the tournament, he reponse me by saying he didnt think it was possible for me to play on the tourney but he wasnt sure but he said go register up and if they allow u to play i will lend u one, which by that time i realized i had to post my id - char code so i decided to use the playtime of the main account after logging in with the acc and going to the channel after seeing they didnt put me in the brackets god knows why @dox@ told me i wasnt allowed to play cause i wasnt a sea cetizen which pissed me off to the max cause thats not what the thread said it, it clearly said anyone with a valid sea account could play in the tournament after being denied i asked one member if i could play under his acc in the tourney to try to compensate the fact that i would have to refill my playtime cause i have another tournament in that same server, he agreed so i just proceed to play and all those screen shots in the 1st page are after they discovered i was playing with that account. wow, just wow Your complete lack of remorse and insight that what you did was completely wrong just shows your immaturity. Grow up, man up and apologise for your blatant disregard of the rules laid down. Terrible way to handle yourself, major. Nobody likes a cheater and a liar, no matter how good he is at Starcraft II. :/I have the feeling that you'll be the one harshest with yourself and your shitty behaviour once you grow up and mature and look back a couple years from now. At least I hope so.
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On July 19 2011 01:05 naggerNZ wrote:
From what I've read in the OP and it's responses, he never cheated in the tournament. Unless you consider being way, way better than everyone else cheating.
According to the Oxford Dictionary of English, cheating is an act of fraud or deception. First, Major was barred from the tournament, not because he was 'good', but because he was not a SEA citizen. Second, he smurfed, he did not use his own account, rather, he borrowed someone else's to play, pretending to be that person so that he could win the tournament, that is in itself, an act of cheating.
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It's funny the only people who support major, think this is blown out of proportion, or are disagreeing are people who aren't reading not just the thread, but the OP. If you aren't going to take the time to read the 52 pages of the thread, then don't post - or at LEAST read the OP and current page. Like wow, I love when these threads come up because it's just a big bantrap. Funny stuff on the ban thread.
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I don't get TL's obsession with drama, a lot of you blow things way out of proportion.
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Isn't he the perfect representative for sixjax, since they are a scam website that cheats people out of their money?
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Australia183 Posts
As a SC2 player, not just a SEA player, I am hugely disappointed with Major. Forgetting everything else - the rules were made clear to him by an admin and he then worked to circumvent them. It's a shame but probably bound to happen. Still, this doesn't excuse him as a player or a representative of the Sixjax team.
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Isn't he the perfect representative for sixjax, since they are a scam website that cheats people out of their money?
What is sixjax anyways?
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Would be interesting to get a response from a member of Sixjax to see what they have to say.
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On July 19 2011 01:57 Gurblechev wrote:
Isn't he the perfect representative for sixjax, since they are a scam website that cheats people out of their money?
Why is that?
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So, after cheating his way into a tournament he was told several times that he was not allowed to enter, his excuses were that he was forced to buy a SEA account (which was a lie) and "cause ur being a fag".
Then he comes in here and actually tries to justify what he did by making up more lies (As shown in deL's posts).
Pathetic. It doesn't look like he's matured a tiny bit from his bw days. It's not just one time mistake for this kid. He lies and cheats repeatedly without showing any remorse.
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On July 18 2011 21:44 Jate wrote:
What a pathetic cheater lol.
Are you that desperate that you cant be success in any tourney so you
smurfing in to server that you call "anyone is terrible" so you might win lol princess
And milady, you got caught, yet still BSing to justify youself
Grow up kitty, people like you meow, should be banned from all tourney meow.
This is unbelieveable, but not that unpredictable from you.
EDIT: and THIS, lady and geltleman, is what hurting E-Sport
There is one in every thread lol
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deL's post at the top of page 42 should probably be edited into the OP actually; I think it's the only post by him in the thread.
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On July 19 2011 01:57 Gurblechev wrote:
Isn't he the perfect representative for sixjax, since they are a scam website that cheats people out of their money?
perhaps you should do this in a new thread. at this point youre not even adding fuel to the fire you're starting a new fire right next to the current fire.
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On July 19 2011 02:01 Belial88 wrote:Show nested quote +Isn't he the perfect representative for sixjax, since they are a scam website that cheats people out of their money? What is sixjax anyways?
They run penny auctions.
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I hope he's barred from a few high profile tournaments because of this.
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