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Page 26 and onwards I will issue at least two day bans to anyone who clearly has not read the original topic post and the explanations contained therein. He was barred access to the event days before the actual event took place and used some random diamond player his account to try and get in anyway.
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On July 18 2011 15:56 Prey Monkie wrote: who cares what major did i just wanna watch him play on 1080p. if he needs to pull some tricks to win a tournament get some money buy better pc for streaming. it's all good  and why are u guys focusing on the wrong problem here? obviously some tournament thought they had a nice scandal and announced it on kelly milkies stream? tha fuck is that?
The rules were he had to be a citizen of a country in SEA. That was not the case.
I'm just glad he was discovered so that the players who deserved it got their money.
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On July 18 2011 15:50 taLbuk wrote:
man i was just becoming a major fan, well i'll still be a fan of his play but not his personality
also its funny how tt1 manages to bring idra into everything just to shit on him even though the thread has nothing to do with him
is a good talent toi have, i told him he made the biggest mistake of his life when he decided to open his mouth in that ladder game.. but the more i think about it this seems like an unwinnable battle because of the amount of fanboys he has, gotta keep truckin tho even if ill probably retire as the least liked gamer of all time
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On July 18 2011 15:56 SeizeTheDay wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 15:52 Tppz! wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What I read out of these chats is that Maj0r did think u were allowed to play if you have a SEA account so he bought one. Afterwards he was told he just burned 50 bucks for nothing. I dont think any1 wouldnt have taken the oppourtunity to play as a smurf. He feeled like he wasnt able to play cause the admins didnt like him (since he states that other ppl were allowed). So he wanted to get some of his money back and since there was no clear official message about in the official thread that only citizens are able to participate it was "ok" for him. Im not going to defend someone who doesnt follow the rules but in this case its kind of understandable. I think both sides made errors and I dont think MajOr will do this again. Next time the admins should be clear about the rules - and by that I mean you should write the right rules in every official spot. Talking to 1 person to say one way about the rules and stating the other way in an official thread makes people angry/ feel betrayed etc. Anyways I dont like how the Pros/representatives/admins of the scence etc talk in this thread. 1) Dont make such a thread. This is just childish BM. 2) Dont be offensive/aggressive if you are a player/caster/admin. You still are a representative of SC2 and slow dont the grow of esports if you behave like this. Show some proffessionalism. 3) Dont talk about stuff that shouldnt be talked about (e.g Endrey stating he wanted MajOr to participate in a SHowmatch/stuff. You knew the risks and its still his choice to play or not to play) 4) Show professionalism! Dont be a drama Queen 5) see 4) I feel sad for SC2 right now cause there are still people who cant take the responsibility or cant handle being in the spotlight. You guys are truly hurting Esports. If you dont like somebody just keep if with yourself. If you are upset by a player: talk to his team. Make clear that they have to punish him. Only post if the team acts dickish. No need for these threads  Did u really read the thread? did you not see that it clearly says"YOU ARE NOT A CITIZEN OF SOUTH EAST ASIA SORRY!" they are talking about in starcraft 2 .. how do you miss soothing like that?
I did. Did you? Cause it seems that MajOr didnt understand first what that means (he is still Mexican). Then he talks about other ppl who were supposed to be participating. And then he talks about a citizen that isnt living in SEA at that moment. DO you really think MajOr knew what "citizen" means?
I thought TL would be the place of mannered and nice ppl. But it seems taht most ppl are only able to yell at each other in an unfriendly tone.
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On July 18 2011 15:56 Prey Monkie wrote: who cares what major did i just wanna watch him play on 1080p. if he needs to pull some tricks to win a tournament get some money buy better pc for streaming. it's all good and why are u guys focusing on the wrong problem here? obviously some tournament thought they had a nice scandal and announced it on kelly milkies stream? tha fuck is that?
Seriously, troll harder... even a 12 year old can troll better then you... how sad...
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On July 18 2011 15:55 ke_ivan wrote:TL should now start an auction house so that they can profit from sixjax.com's lack of PR. Well that's what I'd do. lulz. Capitalism ftw! @TT1 troll harder dude! all the fanboy rage is just spewing forth from their pre-pubescent loins! Did someone just say PES? Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 15:36 Jehct wrote:
Attacking anyone other than Major over this incident is ridiculous. Expecting Evoli or Artosis to have any strong feelings on the subject is unrealistic. Everyone has their own opinion on such events; it's fine to disagree, but don't be a dick about it. Lulz. I'll even agree with you on that point. Did you follow the News of the World incident? Yeah Rupert didn't hack man. Don't blame him for it. Evoli didn't cheat. Don't blame him for it. Just sayin'... I am so sorry I said that!
LOL dont say that out loud they might catch on
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This is a very serious crime, huge - no MAJOR deal!
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On July 18 2011 15:57 holycrapitsTony wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 15:55 Bobble wrote:On July 18 2011 15:41 holycrapitsTony wrote:On July 18 2011 14:26 Seij wrote:
There is a big difference in the skill level in lower levels between NA and SEA...SEA is harder. Not sure if you're being serious or not, but I'm fairly sure everyone knows that SEA is a joke. Lots of people here are doing everything they can to bring the SEA region up to a good E-Sports standard. Just as Dox said, he wants to see people here get better and represent the region on an international scale. We may not be the best region, but the people working on this region are probably the hardest-working out there. If that's really what Dox wants, then he shouldn't be making it an exclusively SEA tournament. How do you expect to show the world you're as good as them if you refuse to play them? This is the CatZ argument adapted for this tournament.
You have to build infrastructure to be able to compete with the World first.
There is no real incentive for SEA players to play professionally atm. If the rest of the world was invited how would that help grow the scene here?
In NA or EU there are already set competitions going on all the time and the scene is big enough to be able to sustain its players.
Here in the SEA there nothing like that as of yet.
Tournaments like this, do nothing but help the growth.
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On July 18 2011 15:59 Tppz! wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 15:56 SeizeTheDay wrote:On July 18 2011 15:52 Tppz! wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What I read out of these chats is that Maj0r did think u were allowed to play if you have a SEA account so he bought one. Afterwards he was told he just burned 50 bucks for nothing. I dont think any1 wouldnt have taken the oppourtunity to play as a smurf. He feeled like he wasnt able to play cause the admins didnt like him (since he states that other ppl were allowed). So he wanted to get some of his money back and since there was no clear official message about in the official thread that only citizens are able to participate it was "ok" for him. Im not going to defend someone who doesnt follow the rules but in this case its kind of understandable. I think both sides made errors and I dont think MajOr will do this again. Next time the admins should be clear about the rules - and by that I mean you should write the right rules in every official spot. Talking to 1 person to say one way about the rules and stating the other way in an official thread makes people angry/ feel betrayed etc. Anyways I dont like how the Pros/representatives/admins of the scence etc talk in this thread. 1) Dont make such a thread. This is just childish BM. 2) Dont be offensive/aggressive if you are a player/caster/admin. You still are a representative of SC2 and slow dont the grow of esports if you behave like this. Show some proffessionalism. 3) Dont talk about stuff that shouldnt be talked about (e.g Endrey stating he wanted MajOr to participate in a SHowmatch/stuff. You knew the risks and its still his choice to play or not to play) 4) Show professionalism! Dont be a drama Queen 5) see 4) I feel sad for SC2 right now cause there are still people who cant take the responsibility or cant handle being in the spotlight. You guys are truly hurting Esports. If you dont like somebody just keep if with yourself. If you are upset by a player: talk to his team. Make clear that they have to punish him. Only post if the team acts dickish. No need for these threads Did u really read the thread? did you not see that it clearly says"YOU ARE NOT A CITIZEN OF SOUTH EAST ASIA SORRY!" they are talking about in starcraft 2 .. how do you miss soothing like that? I did. Did you? Cause it seems that MajOr didnt understand first what that means (he is still Mexican). Then he talks about other ppl who were supposed to be participating. And then he talks about a citizen that isnt living in SEA at that moment. DO you really think MajOr knew what "citizen" means?
If your Mexican you know what CITIZEN means... I can say that about almost all Mexicans..no im not being racist he seems to speak pretty clear english also... AND I QUOTE AGAIN "DO YOU KNOW WHAT CITIZENSHIP IS? MAjOR: "YEA"
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On July 18 2011 15:57 holycrapitsTony wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 15:55 Bobble wrote:On July 18 2011 15:41 holycrapitsTony wrote:On July 18 2011 14:26 Seij wrote:
There is a big difference in the skill level in lower levels between NA and SEA...SEA is harder. Not sure if you're being serious or not, but I'm fairly sure everyone knows that SEA is a joke. Lots of people here are doing everything they can to bring the SEA region up to a good E-Sports standard. Just as Dox said, he wants to see people here get better and represent the region on an international scale. We may not be the best region, but the people working on this region are probably the hardest-working out there. If that's really what Dox wants, then he shouldn't be making it an exclusively SEA tournament. How do you expect to show the world you're as good as them if you refuse to play them? This is the CatZ argument adapted for this tournament.
It's exactly the same argument that Team Liquid used for the TSL 1/2.
Other servers already have a lot of tournaments and money invested. SEA does not, and it is prohibitively difficult to play in tournaments for other servers due to timezones/connection issues. Hence, most SEA tournaments are held for SEA players to ensure that they actually get to play tournaments, get exposure, and a chance to win money.
When there is enough competitive infrastructure and players in place, then it makes sense to open SEA up entirely. Even then, events like the Master's Cup do allow non-SEA players. The last one was won by a korean B-teamer.
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On July 18 2011 15:58 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 15:50 taLbuk wrote:
man i was just becoming a major fan, well i'll still be a fan of his play but not his personality
also its funny how tt1 manages to bring idra into everything just to shit on him even though the thread has nothing to do with him is a good talent toi have, i told him he made the biggest mistake of his life when he decided to open his mouth in that ladder game.. but the more i think about it this seems like an unwinnable battle because of the amount of fanboys he has, gotta keep truckin tho even if ill probably retire as the least liked gamer of all time
TT1, I find you to be a really fun player to watch and an overall nice guy. Though, you probably whine just as much as the Gracken himself.
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On July 18 2011 15:57 holycrapitsTony wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 15:55 Bobble wrote:On July 18 2011 15:41 holycrapitsTony wrote:On July 18 2011 14:26 Seij wrote:
There is a big difference in the skill level in lower levels between NA and SEA...SEA is harder. Not sure if you're being serious or not, but I'm fairly sure everyone knows that SEA is a joke. Lots of people here are doing everything they can to bring the SEA region up to a good E-Sports standard. Just as Dox said, he wants to see people here get better and represent the region on an international scale. We may not be the best region, but the people working on this region are probably the hardest-working out there. If that's really what Dox wants, then he shouldn't be making it an exclusively SEA tournament. How do you expect to show the world you're as good as them if you refuse to play them? This is the CatZ argument adapted for this tournament.
Well, it's Dox's mindset, but i'm guessing he wants to have an exclusive SEA tournament so at least a person from SEA gets the prize money, gets some incentive to play SC2 more competitively, get into a team, train harder, then go into international tournaments. It doesn't work when you have an accomplished player just come in, roll everyone and take the money. If that eventuated, then up and coming SEA players would get discouraged, and not play as much or even play altogether.
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It's ok at least he knows what fag means.
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Im not completely sure what the repercussions are, but what are blizzards exact stances on account smurfing? Im assuming its a ban from b.net on that account.
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Honestly after reading that conversation I think going into it Terran or whoever you want to call him did not know what a citizenship was. And I am not sure he knows yet.
+ Show Spoiler +Extra points if you spot the irony in my comment.
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On July 18 2011 16:08 BootySmakaRaX wrote:
Im not completely sure what the repercussions are, but what are blizzards exact stances on account smurfing? Im assuming its a ban from b.net on that account.
Sharing accounts is illegal and progamers have been warned for it.
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On July 18 2011 16:08 BootySmakaRaX wrote:
Im not completely sure what the repercussions are, but what are blizzards exact stances on account smurfing? Im assuming its a ban from b.net on that account.
In the cases where they do care(Huk on TLOs account) they will tell you to stop it and warn you, apparently.
Major wont really have any repercussions from this other then not being able to play in this tournament.
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On July 18 2011 16:08 BootySmakaRaX wrote:
Im not completely sure what the repercussions are, but what are blizzards exact stances on account smurfing? Im assuming its a ban from b.net on that account.
Think blizzard only have a problem if he smurfs on the ladder for someone else. If it is someone's first time then they get a warning, if they keep doing it they get a suspension for a week or so, if they do it again then a month long suspension, if they do it AGAIN then probably a permanent ban. But it would be a real big offense for blizzard to ban someone.
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On July 18 2011 16:02 SeizeTheDay wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 15:59 Tppz! wrote:On July 18 2011 15:56 SeizeTheDay wrote:On July 18 2011 15:52 Tppz! wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What I read out of these chats is that Maj0r did think u were allowed to play if you have a SEA account so he bought one. Afterwards he was told he just burned 50 bucks for nothing. I dont think any1 wouldnt have taken the oppourtunity to play as a smurf. He feeled like he wasnt able to play cause the admins didnt like him (since he states that other ppl were allowed). So he wanted to get some of his money back and since there was no clear official message about in the official thread that only citizens are able to participate it was "ok" for him. Im not going to defend someone who doesnt follow the rules but in this case its kind of understandable. I think both sides made errors and I dont think MajOr will do this again. Next time the admins should be clear about the rules - and by that I mean you should write the right rules in every official spot. Talking to 1 person to say one way about the rules and stating the other way in an official thread makes people angry/ feel betrayed etc. Anyways I dont like how the Pros/representatives/admins of the scence etc talk in this thread. 1) Dont make such a thread. This is just childish BM. 2) Dont be offensive/aggressive if you are a player/caster/admin. You still are a representative of SC2 and slow dont the grow of esports if you behave like this. Show some proffessionalism. 3) Dont talk about stuff that shouldnt be talked about (e.g Endrey stating he wanted MajOr to participate in a SHowmatch/stuff. You knew the risks and its still his choice to play or not to play) 4) Show professionalism! Dont be a drama Queen 5) see 4) I feel sad for SC2 right now cause there are still people who cant take the responsibility or cant handle being in the spotlight. You guys are truly hurting Esports. If you dont like somebody just keep if with yourself. If you are upset by a player: talk to his team. Make clear that they have to punish him. Only post if the team acts dickish. No need for these threads Did u really read the thread? did you not see that it clearly says"YOU ARE NOT A CITIZEN OF SOUTH EAST ASIA SORRY!" they are talking about in starcraft 2 .. how do you miss soothing like that? I did. Did you? Cause it seems that MajOr didnt understand first what that means (he is still Mexican). Then he talks about other ppl who were supposed to be participating. And then he talks about a citizen that isnt living in SEA at that moment. DO you really think MajOr knew what "citizen" means? If your Mexican you know what CITIZEN means... I can say that about almost all Mexicans..no im not being racist he seems to speak pretty clear english also... AND I QUOTE AGAIN "DO YOU KNOW WHAT CITIZENSHIP IS? MAjOR: "YEA"
So Caps Lock makes your argument more powerful? Pls be more mannered.
So why do you think would MajOr burn 50 bucks on a SC2 account he could never ever use for anything?
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On July 18 2011 16:14 Tppz! wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 16:02 SeizeTheDay wrote:On July 18 2011 15:59 Tppz! wrote:On July 18 2011 15:56 SeizeTheDay wrote:On July 18 2011 15:52 Tppz! wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What I read out of these chats is that Maj0r did think u were allowed to play if you have a SEA account so he bought one. Afterwards he was told he just burned 50 bucks for nothing. I dont think any1 wouldnt have taken the oppourtunity to play as a smurf. He feeled like he wasnt able to play cause the admins didnt like him (since he states that other ppl were allowed). So he wanted to get some of his money back and since there was no clear official message about in the official thread that only citizens are able to participate it was "ok" for him. Im not going to defend someone who doesnt follow the rules but in this case its kind of understandable. I think both sides made errors and I dont think MajOr will do this again. Next time the admins should be clear about the rules - and by that I mean you should write the right rules in every official spot. Talking to 1 person to say one way about the rules and stating the other way in an official thread makes people angry/ feel betrayed etc. Anyways I dont like how the Pros/representatives/admins of the scence etc talk in this thread. 1) Dont make such a thread. This is just childish BM. 2) Dont be offensive/aggressive if you are a player/caster/admin. You still are a representative of SC2 and slow dont the grow of esports if you behave like this. Show some proffessionalism. 3) Dont talk about stuff that shouldnt be talked about (e.g Endrey stating he wanted MajOr to participate in a SHowmatch/stuff. You knew the risks and its still his choice to play or not to play) 4) Show professionalism! Dont be a drama Queen 5) see 4) I feel sad for SC2 right now cause there are still people who cant take the responsibility or cant handle being in the spotlight. You guys are truly hurting Esports. If you dont like somebody just keep if with yourself. If you are upset by a player: talk to his team. Make clear that they have to punish him. Only post if the team acts dickish. No need for these threads Did u really read the thread? did you not see that it clearly says"YOU ARE NOT A CITIZEN OF SOUTH EAST ASIA SORRY!" they are talking about in starcraft 2 .. how do you miss soothing like that? I did. Did you? Cause it seems that MajOr didnt understand first what that means (he is still Mexican). Then he talks about other ppl who were supposed to be participating. And then he talks about a citizen that isnt living in SEA at that moment. DO you really think MajOr knew what "citizen" means? If your Mexican you know what CITIZEN means... I can say that about almost all Mexicans..no im not being racist he seems to speak pretty clear english also... AND I QUOTE AGAIN "DO YOU KNOW WHAT CITIZENSHIP IS? MAjOR: "YEA" So Caps Lock makes your argument more powerful? Pls be more mannered. So why do you think would MajOr burn 50 bucks on a SC2 account he could never ever use for anything?
He did not buy an account.
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