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Page 26 and onwards I will issue at least two day bans to anyone who clearly has not read the original topic post and the explanations contained therein. He was barred access to the event days before the actual event took place and used some random diamond player his account to try and get in anyway.
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On July 18 2011 15:41 holycrapitsTony wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 14:26 Seij wrote:
There is a big difference in the skill level in lower levels between NA and SEA...SEA is harder. Not sure if you're being serious or not, but I'm fairly sure everyone knows that SEA is a joke.
He's being serious - at the lower levels, the smaller player count means there are also less terrible players. This makes the low divisions harder than NA. 'Course. it works the other way around at the top - there's less good players, so it's easier compared to NA. SEA players can compete, but for every top level SEA player, there's 100 NA players of the same caliber.
That doesn't make it a joke, however, just a server starved for competitive players. People put in effort, and try to compete and improve, and in this case, Major comes in the fuck it up.
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On July 18 2011 15:41 holycrapitsTony wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 14:26 Seij wrote:
There is a big difference in the skill level in lower levels between NA and SEA...SEA is harder. Not sure if you're being serious or not, but I'm fairly sure everyone knows that SEA is a joke.
Plat and Lower imo SEA is harder than NA but M and GM on NA is harder than on SEA. imo
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On July 18 2011 15:41 holycrapitsTony wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 14:26 Seij wrote:
There is a big difference in the skill level in lower levels between NA and SEA...SEA is harder. Not sure if you're being serious or not, but I'm fairly sure everyone knows that SEA is a joke.
I just quickly scrolled through the NA server GrandMaster League rankings and easily picked out a handful of recognisable SEA players in the top 50. Some of them are ranked higher than TT1 and MajOr.
Just thought you should know who you're calling a joke.
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man i was just becoming a major fan, well i'll still be a fan of his play but not his personality
also its funny how tt1 manages to bring idra into everything just to shit on him even though the thread has nothing to do with him
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On July 18 2011 15:49 Dox wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 15:41 holycrapitsTony wrote:On July 18 2011 14:26 Seij wrote:
There is a big difference in the skill level in lower levels between NA and SEA...SEA is harder. Not sure if you're being serious or not, but I'm fairly sure everyone knows that SEA is a joke. I just quickly scrolled through the NA server GrandMaster League rankings and easily picked out a handful of recognisable SEA players in the top 50. Some of them are ranked higher than TT1 and MajOr. Just thought you should know who you're calling a joke.
Notice how the SEA players play on NA? Because SEA's ladder isn't very good.
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On July 18 2011 15:50 holycrapitsTony wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 15:49 Dox wrote:On July 18 2011 15:41 holycrapitsTony wrote:On July 18 2011 14:26 Seij wrote:
There is a big difference in the skill level in lower levels between NA and SEA...SEA is harder. Not sure if you're being serious or not, but I'm fairly sure everyone knows that SEA is a joke. I just quickly scrolled through the NA server GrandMaster League rankings and easily picked out a handful of recognisable SEA players in the top 50. Some of them are ranked higher than TT1 and MajOr. Just thought you should know who you're calling a joke. Notice how the SEA players play on NA? Because SEA's ladder isn't very good.
You were one of those guys that grew up with the gift of finding all the facts easily, am I right? If SEA people are tearing up NA GM ladder, it means they are boss mode. Thanks.
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What I read out of these chats is that Maj0r did think u were allowed to play if you have a SEA account so he bought one. Afterwards he was told he just burned 50 bucks for nothing.
I dont think any1 wouldnt have taken the oppourtunity to play as a smurf. He feeled like he wasnt able to play cause the admins didnt like him (since he states that other ppl were allowed). So he wanted to get some of his money back and since there was no clear official message about in the official thread that only citizens are able to participate it was "ok" for him.
Im not going to defend someone who doesnt follow the rules but in this case its kind of understandable. I think both sides made errors and I dont think MajOr will do this again.
Next time the admins should be clear about the rules - and by that I mean you should write the right rules in every official spot. Talking to 1 person to say one way about the rules and stating the other way in an official thread makes people angry/ feel betrayed etc.
Anyways I dont like how the Pros/representatives/admins of the scence etc talk in this thread.
1) Dont make such a thread. This is just childish BM.
2) Dont be offensive/aggressive if you are a player/caster/admin. You still are a representative of SC2 and slow dont the grow of esports if you behave like this. Show some proffessionalism.
3) Dont talk about stuff that shouldnt be talked about (e.g Endrey stating he wanted MajOr to participate in a SHowmatch/stuff. You knew the risks and its still his choice to play or not to play)
4) Show professionalism! Dont be a drama Queen
5) see 4)
I feel sad for SC2 right now cause there are still people who cant take the responsibility or cant handle being in the spotlight. You guys are truly hurting Esports.
If you dont like somebody just keep if with yourself.
If you are upset by a player: talk to his team. Make clear that they have to punish him. Only post if the team acts dickish. No need for these threads
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On July 18 2011 15:50 holycrapitsTony wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 15:49 Dox wrote:On July 18 2011 15:41 holycrapitsTony wrote:On July 18 2011 14:26 Seij wrote:
There is a big difference in the skill level in lower levels between NA and SEA...SEA is harder. Not sure if you're being serious or not, but I'm fairly sure everyone knows that SEA is a joke. I just quickly scrolled through the NA server GrandMaster League rankings and easily picked out a handful of recognisable SEA players in the top 50. Some of them are ranked higher than TT1 and MajOr. Just thought you should know who you're calling a joke. Notice how the SEA players play on NA? Because SEA's ladder isn't very good.
So is NA.... Since NA players arent good, if SEA members are beating them.... right ?
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On July 18 2011 15:50 holycrapitsTony wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 15:49 Dox wrote:On July 18 2011 15:41 holycrapitsTony wrote:On July 18 2011 14:26 Seij wrote:
There is a big difference in the skill level in lower levels between NA and SEA...SEA is harder. Not sure if you're being serious or not, but I'm fairly sure everyone knows that SEA is a joke. I just quickly scrolled through the NA server GrandMaster League rankings and easily picked out a handful of recognisable SEA players in the top 50. Some of them are ranked higher than TT1 and MajOr. Just thought you should know who you're calling a joke. Notice how the SEA players play on NA? Because SEA's ladder isn't very good.
LOL stop before you hurt yourself.
The reason why alot of SEA players play NA..Bigger pool of players, you don't have to wait for ever to get into a game.
Some days, it can take up to 10 minutes or longer to find a game on SEA
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On July 18 2011 15:52 Maynarde wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 15:50 holycrapitsTony wrote:On July 18 2011 15:49 Dox wrote:On July 18 2011 15:41 holycrapitsTony wrote:On July 18 2011 14:26 Seij wrote:
There is a big difference in the skill level in lower levels between NA and SEA...SEA is harder. Not sure if you're being serious or not, but I'm fairly sure everyone knows that SEA is a joke. I just quickly scrolled through the NA server GrandMaster League rankings and easily picked out a handful of recognisable SEA players in the top 50. Some of them are ranked higher than TT1 and MajOr. Just thought you should know who you're calling a joke. Notice how the SEA players play on NA? Because SEA's ladder isn't very good. You were one of those guys that grew up with the gift of finding all the facts easily, am I right? If SEA people are tearing up NA GM ladder, it means they are boss mode. Thanks.
Define "tearing up." Unless the majority of GM on NA are SEA players, I don't see what you're getting at. There are great players from SEA, no doubt, but their ladder is considered among the worst.
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On July 18 2011 15:50 holycrapitsTony wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 15:49 Dox wrote:On July 18 2011 15:41 holycrapitsTony wrote:On July 18 2011 14:26 Seij wrote:
There is a big difference in the skill level in lower levels between NA and SEA...SEA is harder. Not sure if you're being serious or not, but I'm fairly sure everyone knows that SEA is a joke. I just quickly scrolled through the NA server GrandMaster League rankings and easily picked out a handful of recognisable SEA players in the top 50. Some of them are ranked higher than TT1 and MajOr. Just thought you should know who you're calling a joke. Notice how the SEA players play on NA? Because SEA's ladder isn't very good.
The SEA players holding positions on NA are also at the top of the SEA ladder. The issue is more a simple lack of players - the top of SEA is rather small because the entire server is small, so the top-tier play on NA/KR a fair amount.
This is why SEA has tournaments with region restriction - so that the rest of the players can actually get to compete and try to win prizes. There simply aren't enough high-end SEA players to let SEA compete on NA's turf.
This is all irrelevant to the main discussion, though. Don't suppose we can take the server butthurt elsewhere?
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On July 18 2011 15:50 holycrapitsTony wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 15:49 Dox wrote:On July 18 2011 15:41 holycrapitsTony wrote:On July 18 2011 14:26 Seij wrote:
There is a big difference in the skill level in lower levels between NA and SEA...SEA is harder. Not sure if you're being serious or not, but I'm fairly sure everyone knows that SEA is a joke. I just quickly scrolled through the NA server GrandMaster League rankings and easily picked out a handful of recognisable SEA players in the top 50. Some of them are ranked higher than TT1 and MajOr. Just thought you should know who you're calling a joke. Notice how the SEA players play on NA? Because SEA's ladder isn't very good.
Actually they're playing on NA because it's the only way we can break the stigma you're clinging to.
Search times for the top tier of SEA is truly awful.
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On July 18 2011 15:27 TT1 wrote:
retarded newage bandwagonners on tl
Don't really like TT1, but gotta agree with him here...
Why does everyone think its cool to form a lynch mob when someone makes a mistake?
He messed up...I'm sure he knows it...get over it.
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TL should now start an auction house so that they can profit from sixjax.com's lack of PR.
Well that's what I'd do. lulz. Capitalism ftw!
@TT1 troll harder dude! all the fanboy rage is just spewing forth from their pre-pubescent loins! Did someone just say PES?
On July 18 2011 15:36 Jehct wrote:
Attacking anyone other than Major over this incident is ridiculous. Expecting Evoli or Artosis to have any strong feelings on the subject is unrealistic. Everyone has their own opinion on such events; it's fine to disagree, but don't be a dick about it.
Lulz. I'll even agree with you on that point. Did you follow the News of the World incident?
Yeah Rupert didn't hack man. Don't blame him for it.
Evoli didn't cheat. Don't blame him for it.
Just sayin'... I am so sorry I said that!
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On July 18 2011 15:41 holycrapitsTony wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 14:26 Seij wrote:
There is a big difference in the skill level in lower levels between NA and SEA...SEA is harder. Not sure if you're being serious or not, but I'm fairly sure everyone knows that SEA is a joke.
the key word is lower levels. The lower levels in SEA are pretty damn hard, considering we got less noobs to stomp. And how dare you just dismiss an entire region like that. Lots of people here are doing everything they can to bring the SEA region up to a good E-Sports standard. Just as Dox said, he wants to see people here get better and represent the region on an international scale. We may not be the best region, but the people working on this region are probably the hardest-working out there.
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On July 18 2011 15:52 Tppz! wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What I read out of these chats is that Maj0r did think u were allowed to play if you have a SEA account so he bought one. Afterwards he was told he just burned 50 bucks for nothing. I dont think any1 wouldnt have taken the oppourtunity to play as a smurf. He feeled like he wasnt able to play cause the admins didnt like him (since he states that other ppl were allowed). So he wanted to get some of his money back and since there was no clear official message about in the official thread that only citizens are able to participate it was "ok" for him. Im not going to defend someone who doesnt follow the rules but in this case its kind of understandable. I think both sides made errors and I dont think MajOr will do this again. Next time the admins should be clear about the rules - and by that I mean you should write the right rules in every official spot. Talking to 1 person to say one way about the rules and stating the other way in an official thread makes people angry/ feel betrayed etc. Anyways I dont like how the Pros/representatives/admins of the scence etc talk in this thread. 1) Dont make such a thread. This is just childish BM. 2) Dont be offensive/aggressive if you are a player/caster/admin. You still are a representative of SC2 and slow dont the grow of esports if you behave like this. Show some proffessionalism. 3) Dont talk about stuff that shouldnt be talked about (e.g Endrey stating he wanted MajOr to participate in a SHowmatch/stuff. You knew the risks and its still his choice to play or not to play) 4) Show professionalism! Dont be a drama Queen 5) see 4) I feel sad for SC2 right now cause there are still people who cant take the responsibility or cant handle being in the spotlight. You guys are truly hurting Esports. If you dont like somebody just keep if with yourself. If you are upset by a player: talk to his team. Make clear that they have to punish him. Only post if the team acts dickish. No need for these threads
Did u really read the thread? did you not see that it clearly says"YOU ARE NOT A CITIZEN OF SOUTH EAST ASIA SORRY!" they are talking about in starcraft 2 .. how do you miss somthing like that? So everything u just typed means nothing :D
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who cares what major did i just wanna watch him play on 1080p. if he needs to pull some tricks to win a tournament get some money buy better pc for streaming. it's all good and why are u guys focusing on the wrong problem here? obviously some tournament thought they had a nice scandal and announced it on kelly milkies stream? tha fuck is that?
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On July 18 2011 15:55 Bobble wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2011 15:41 holycrapitsTony wrote:On July 18 2011 14:26 Seij wrote:
There is a big difference in the skill level in lower levels between NA and SEA...SEA is harder. Not sure if you're being serious or not, but I'm fairly sure everyone knows that SEA is a joke. Lots of people here are doing everything they can to bring the SEA region up to a good E-Sports standard. Just as Dox said, he wants to see people here get better and represent the region on an international scale. We may not be the best region, but the people working on this region are probably the hardest-working out there.
If that's really what Dox wants, then he shouldn't be making it an exclusively SEA tournament. How do you expect to show the world you're as good as them if you refuse to play them? This is the CatZ argument adapted for this tournament.
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