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Cudaflu
Profile Joined July 2010
33 Posts
July 16 2011 22:13 GMT
#1701
On July 17 2011 07:10 Denzil wrote:
Carter King just "shoved" all in. Is that him saying I could have shit I could have something nice but do you really want to decide your tournament life on a coin flip?

That was before the flop I think.


He had a small stack of about 20bb, which is not a lot to work with. He had a hand that he was willing to risk his tournament life on and decided to "shove" or raise all in. It is very unlikely he didn't have a good hand (AJ+, 88+)
ste0731
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom435 Posts
July 16 2011 22:13 GMT
#1702
On July 17 2011 07:11 FryktSkyene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 07:10 ste0731 wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:09 FryktSkyene wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:08 ste0731 wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:08 FryktSkyene wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:06 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:02 Telcontar wrote:
I have a question; Why do some poker broadcasts show the players' hands from the beginning and some hide them?


They aren't showing the hands in this WSOP because the event is being broadcasted live, and as such they are trying to prevent cheating. I think this is the first event that has been broadcasted live ever, so it's a very big deal as well as uncharted territory.



wait what?

Your allowed to have a cellphone at these tables and look at it?

I don't see how thats a very good idea.


Why is it a bad idea? What use is a cellphone in a game of poker...


Well if they dont have it, they cant recieve texts telling them the hands, thus allowing the live viewers to see them online?




Then they just as easily have a friend sat in the audience who they walk over to every 30seconds to get the info :D Or a friend near entrance etc



Wouldnt that be really obv? Then they could kick that guy out for cheating, and kick the other guy out of the venue.


You'd have to stop every single player from speaking to anyone in the casino for 10hours a day :D
xlat
Profile Joined August 2010
176 Posts
July 16 2011 22:14 GMT
#1703
On July 17 2011 07:05 KiZoGe wrote:
I will be streaming the WSOP @ http://www.twitch.tv/atlandsend# and will Be updating KiWiKaKi's chipcount on screen as I get updated. Enjoy



Thanks! Love the overlay
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
July 16 2011 22:15 GMT
#1704
Another question I'll throw in there.

What's going on with the players organising their stacks and how do they know the exact amount to raise or call. I know they count it but sometimes they see someone raise and call / push the chips in pretty fast.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 16 2011 22:17 GMT
#1705
God I hate Russell Brand.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Sqq
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway2023 Posts
July 16 2011 22:17 GMT
#1706
On July 17 2011 07:15 Denzil wrote:
Another question I'll throw in there.

What's going on with the players organising their stacks and how do they know the exact amount to raise or call. I know they count it but sometimes they see someone raise and call / push the chips in pretty fast.


I play a lot on my sparetime with friends. We have a poker set that isn't numbered. But we play with them every friday, and we know exactly how much to call just about anything.
Dead girls don't say no.
ste0731
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom435 Posts
July 16 2011 22:17 GMT
#1707
On July 17 2011 07:15 Denzil wrote:
Another question I'll throw in there.

What's going on with the players organising their stacks and how do they know the exact amount to raise or call. I know they count it but sometimes they see someone raise and call / push the chips in pretty fast.


Once you play live you can count out a stack of 20 chips in milliseconds just using your eyes, and the majroity of players keep their stacks in size of 20. So can just snap 1 pile + 4 chips for 24 x 5k chips for a 120k bet in a second. Or they use stacks of 40 then just quickly half the pile to count out 20 chips.
zFugitivE
Profile Joined July 2010
United States58 Posts
July 16 2011 22:19 GMT
#1708
On July 17 2011 07:09 FryktSkyene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 07:08 ste0731 wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:08 FryktSkyene wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:06 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:02 Telcontar wrote:
I have a question; Why do some poker broadcasts show the players' hands from the beginning and some hide them?


They aren't showing the hands in this WSOP because the event is being broadcasted live, and as such they are trying to prevent cheating. I think this is the first event that has been broadcasted live ever, so it's a very big deal as well as uncharted territory.



wait what?

Your allowed to have a cellphone at these tables and look at it?

I don't see how thats a very good idea.


Why is it a bad idea? What use is a cellphone in a game of poker...


Well if they dont have it, they cant recieve texts telling them the hands, thus allowing the live viewers to see them online?




The way they can ensure no cheating is being done is by not showing the live stream viewers the content of a players hand until AFTER the hand is over. On television, you always see their hands while they are playing because it's not broadcasted live...it's just a replay / highlight show of a previous tournament.

So...cell phones are not a problem as long as the people watching it live do not know the players hands while they are in play.
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 22:23:30
July 16 2011 22:21 GMT
#1709
On July 17 2011 07:19 zFugitivE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 07:09 FryktSkyene wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:08 ste0731 wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:08 FryktSkyene wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:06 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:02 Telcontar wrote:
I have a question; Why do some poker broadcasts show the players' hands from the beginning and some hide them?


They aren't showing the hands in this WSOP because the event is being broadcasted live, and as such they are trying to prevent cheating. I think this is the first event that has been broadcasted live ever, so it's a very big deal as well as uncharted territory.



wait what?

Your allowed to have a cellphone at these tables and look at it?

I don't see how thats a very good idea.


Why is it a bad idea? What use is a cellphone in a game of poker...


Well if they dont have it, they cant recieve texts telling them the hands, thus allowing the live viewers to see them online?




The way they can ensure no cheating is being done is by not showing the live stream viewers the content of a players hand until AFTER the hand is over. On television, you always see their hands while they are playing because it's not broadcasted live...it's just a replay / highlight show of a previous tournament.

So...cell phones are not a problem as long as the people watching it live do not know the players hands while they are in play.


Its not live live, there is about 30min delay.
xyl0s
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland30 Posts
July 16 2011 22:22 GMT
#1710
On July 17 2011 07:19 zFugitivE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 07:09 FryktSkyene wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:08 ste0731 wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:08 FryktSkyene wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:06 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:02 Telcontar wrote:
I have a question; Why do some poker broadcasts show the players' hands from the beginning and some hide them?


They aren't showing the hands in this WSOP because the event is being broadcasted live, and as such they are trying to prevent cheating. I think this is the first event that has been broadcasted live ever, so it's a very big deal as well as uncharted territory.



wait what?

Your allowed to have a cellphone at these tables and look at it?

I don't see how thats a very good idea.


Why is it a bad idea? What use is a cellphone in a game of poker...


Well if they dont have it, they cant recieve texts telling them the hands, thus allowing the live viewers to see them online?




The way they can ensure no cheating is being done is by not showing the live stream viewers the content of a players hand until AFTER the hand is over. On television, you always see their hands while they are playing because it's not broadcasted live...it's just a replay / highlight show of a previous tournament.

So...cell phones are not a problem as long as the people watching it live do not know the players hands while they are in play.


You can't show hole cards at all when there are communication devices allowed, knowing what your opponent had in the last hand also gives you a big edge.
Gooey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States944 Posts
July 16 2011 22:23 GMT
#1711
On July 17 2011 07:19 zFugitivE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 07:09 FryktSkyene wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:08 ste0731 wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:08 FryktSkyene wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:06 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:02 Telcontar wrote:
I have a question; Why do some poker broadcasts show the players' hands from the beginning and some hide them?


They aren't showing the hands in this WSOP because the event is being broadcasted live, and as such they are trying to prevent cheating. I think this is the first event that has been broadcasted live ever, so it's a very big deal as well as uncharted territory.



wait what?

Your allowed to have a cellphone at these tables and look at it?

I don't see how thats a very good idea.


Why is it a bad idea? What use is a cellphone in a game of poker...


Well if they dont have it, they cant recieve texts telling them the hands, thus allowing the live viewers to see them online?




The way they can ensure no cheating is being done is by not showing the live stream viewers the content of a players hand until AFTER the hand is over. On television, you always see their hands while they are playing because it's not broadcasted live...it's just a replay / highlight show of a previous tournament.

So...cell phones are not a problem as long as the people watching it live do not know the players hands while they are in play.

Not to mention, the live feed is on a roughly 30 minute delay.
www.twitch.tv/Thatgooey
Denar
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1633 Posts
July 16 2011 22:24 GMT
#1712
On July 17 2011 07:08 tofubeans wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 06:34 jinixxx123 wrote:
im curious why kiwi plays sc2 , it costs 10 000 just to enter this poker event while mlg has its top prize as 5000...............

if i was in his position i'd be playing poker full time, if he plays sc2 purely for passion thats amazing.


here is an interview with kiwi by askjoshy. the first minute goes through his gaming/poker history and why he plays sc2 now instead of poker.



Thanks a lot for that interview, he looks like a really cool guy, I hope he goes far in the tournament!

(By the way, I often tend to forget that many Canadians have french as their mother tongue, and I got so surprised by the french accent at first :D)
Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
July 16 2011 22:26 GMT
#1713
[image loading]
Bryan Devonshire's gravity defying stack.

lol wth :D
Train like an animal, eat like a horse, sleep like a baby, grow like a weed.
zFugitivE
Profile Joined July 2010
United States58 Posts
July 16 2011 22:27 GMT
#1714
On July 17 2011 07:26 Shinobi1982 wrote:
[image loading]
Bryan Devonshire's gravity defying stack.

lol wth :D


epic
Pleiades
Profile Joined June 2010
United States472 Posts
July 16 2011 22:28 GMT
#1715
Should get more interesting now, people are getting over 3 million chip counts.
I love you sarge.... AHHHH
ste0731
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom435 Posts
July 16 2011 22:31 GMT
#1716
GOGO frinx Smashing this!
BG1
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Canada1550 Posts
July 16 2011 22:32 GMT
#1717
Mcniff (FrinkX) doing well!
There was once a dream that was Esports. You could only whisper it. Anything more than a whisper and it would vanish... Now is the time to make that dream a reality!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 22:35:37
July 16 2011 22:35 GMT
#1718
On July 17 2011 07:32 BG1 wrote:
Mcniff (FrinkX) doing well!


Very well actually. No spoilers though, if someone wants to watch the broadcast.

+ Show Spoiler +
McNiff was back in action on the next hand, five-betting Elder out of a hand preflop to pick up still more chips. He up to 1.932 million now.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 16 2011 22:35 GMT
#1719
LOL I love when people do funny things with their stack but that is the best chip castle I've ever seen haha, he must have sat out like 10 straight hands and was bored as fuck hahaha
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ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
July 16 2011 22:41 GMT
#1720
That chip stack... If Kiwi busts, I hope he wins the game.
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