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Alexl
Profile Joined January 2011
288 Posts
July 17 2011 02:05 GMT
#2001
yeah but the top200 from NASL don't make that much :D
SickControl
Profile Joined July 2011
United States89 Posts
July 17 2011 02:07 GMT
#2002
On July 17 2011 10:09 johnnywup wrote:
idra would complain about "i'm better than you i should win". itd like cmon man theres a lot of luck ;;


Flush's are OP nerf them and please buff straights.
AdreN-
Profile Joined November 2010
United States503 Posts
July 17 2011 02:08 GMT
#2003
On July 17 2011 10:42 FryktSkyene wrote:
Eh!

47k profit in 5-6 days Isn't bad :p

Buyin is 10K so its only 37K + pay taxes + whoever he shared action with. Still pretty awesome though.
Cassel_Castle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States820 Posts
July 17 2011 02:12 GMT
#2004
On July 17 2011 11:02 bluestuff wrote:
47k the equivalent of winning NASL :/

starcraft has a long way to go


Yeah no, you'll always be able to make more money playing poker because you put your own money at risk.
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
July 17 2011 02:15 GMT
#2005
On July 17 2011 11:12 Cassel_Castle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 11:02 bluestuff wrote:
47k the equivalent of winning NASL :/

starcraft has a long way to go


Yeah no, you'll always be able to make more money playing poker because you put your own money at risk.


I'm scratching my head on this logic, as there are plenty of sports that pay far more than poker and players don't have to buy in. Golf, Tennis, and then of course the team sports.
In order to move forward, we must rid ourselves of that which holds us back. Check out my stream and give me tips! twitch.tv/intotheskyy
SickControl
Profile Joined July 2011
United States89 Posts
July 17 2011 02:17 GMT
#2006
On July 17 2011 11:15 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 11:12 Cassel_Castle wrote:
On July 17 2011 11:02 bluestuff wrote:
47k the equivalent of winning NASL :/

starcraft has a long way to go


Yeah no, you'll always be able to make more money playing poker because you put your own money at risk.


I'm scratching my head on this logic, as there are plenty of sports that pay far more than poker and players don't have to buy in. Golf, Tennis, and then of course the team sports.


If esports ever make it into the mainstream like traditional sports have then we can expect the kind of money those players make or close to it.
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
July 17 2011 02:19 GMT
#2007
On July 17 2011 11:15 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 11:12 Cassel_Castle wrote:
On July 17 2011 11:02 bluestuff wrote:
47k the equivalent of winning NASL :/

starcraft has a long way to go


Yeah no, you'll always be able to make more money playing poker because you put your own money at risk.


I'm scratching my head on this logic, as there are plenty of sports that pay far more than poker and players don't have to buy in. Golf, Tennis, and then of course the team sports.


Those sports also have loads more people watching the sport and more established leagues and tournaments. But don't forget the amount of people who are in huge debt because of poker... All of their money has to go somewhere.
@Munck
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
July 17 2011 02:22 GMT
#2008
haha, no way.. texas hold em is pretty sweet.. I don't really play though.. wouldn't mind.. love euchre as well.

but nice job, beating negreanu, hehe.

XD
~ The Ultimate Weapon
FreshNoThyme
Profile Joined March 2008
United States356 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-17 02:27:47
July 17 2011 02:25 GMT
#2009
On July 17 2011 11:19 mnck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 11:15 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
On July 17 2011 11:12 Cassel_Castle wrote:
On July 17 2011 11:02 bluestuff wrote:
47k the equivalent of winning NASL :/

starcraft has a long way to go


Yeah no, you'll always be able to make more money playing poker because you put your own money at risk.


I'm scratching my head on this logic, as there are plenty of sports that pay far more than poker and players don't have to buy in. Golf, Tennis, and then of course the team sports.


Those sports also have loads more people watching the sport and more established leagues and tournaments. But don't forget the amount of people who are in huge debt because of poker... All of their money has to go somewhere.


I don't really know what you're getting at. He was addressing the logic of the statement. The logic was flawed, and he correctly pointed out that flaw.

Saying "you'll never make that much from SC because you put your own money at risk in poker" directly implies that the reason you can't make money from SC is because you don't put your own money at risk. That was his logic in its entirety. It is flawed because plenty of people compete in sports, without risking their own money, and make more. Obviously, it isn't viable for all professional SC2 players to make that kind of money because, as you said, it is not established enough yet to draw those audiences and sponsorships, but that's stating the obvious (everyone already knows that).

Simply put: Cassel's logic is flawed. There are plenty of reasons SC2 does/may never pay out that much, but betting your own money isn't really a factor worth considering. Yes, it is a reason why poker pays out so much, but plenty (read: nearly all) sports pay out huge amounts to competitors for putting no money in. Sponsorships, yadda yadda.
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
July 17 2011 02:52 GMT
#2010
On July 17 2011 11:25 RANDOMCL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 11:19 mnck wrote:
On July 17 2011 11:15 KiLL_ORdeR wrote:
On July 17 2011 11:12 Cassel_Castle wrote:
On July 17 2011 11:02 bluestuff wrote:
47k the equivalent of winning NASL :/

starcraft has a long way to go


Yeah no, you'll always be able to make more money playing poker because you put your own money at risk.


I'm scratching my head on this logic, as there are plenty of sports that pay far more than poker and players don't have to buy in. Golf, Tennis, and then of course the team sports.


Those sports also have loads more people watching the sport and more established leagues and tournaments. But don't forget the amount of people who are in huge debt because of poker... All of their money has to go somewhere.


I don't really know what you're getting at. He was addressing the logic of the statement. The logic was flawed, and he correctly pointed out that flaw.

Saying "you'll never make that much from SC because you put your own money at risk in poker" directly implies that the reason you can't make money from SC is because you don't put your own money at risk. That was his logic in its entirety. It is flawed because plenty of people compete in sports, without risking their own money, and make more. Obviously, it isn't viable for all professional SC2 players to make that kind of money because, as you said, it is not established enough yet to draw those audiences and sponsorships, but that's stating the obvious (everyone already knows that).

Simply put: Cassel's logic is flawed. There are plenty of reasons SC2 does/may never pay out that much, but betting your own money isn't really a factor worth considering. Yes, it is a reason why poker pays out so much, but plenty (read: nearly all) sports pay out huge amounts to competitors for putting no money in. Sponsorships, yadda yadda.


Thank you, not everyone here is stupid, glad to see it
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Cassel_Castle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States820 Posts
July 17 2011 02:58 GMT
#2011
On July 17 2011 11:25 RANDOMCL wrote:
Simply put: Cassel's logic is flawed. There are plenty of reasons SC2 does/may never pay out that much, but betting your own money isn't really a factor worth considering. Yes, it is a reason why poker pays out so much, but plenty (read: nearly all) sports pay out huge amounts to competitors for putting no money in. Sponsorships, yadda yadda.


Hm, if SC2 makes it into the mainstream I can see where you might be right, but when you compare two things similar in popularity (SC2 and poker) there's a clear advantage in the one where you risk your own money.

My logic is not flawed, it's a slippery slope argument to mention mainstream sports when SC2 and poker are far from the mainstream.
Sangyerians
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Australia248 Posts
July 17 2011 03:09 GMT
#2012
Poker is also more beginner friendly. Definitely not the hardcore strategies but if a beginner gets quad aces or something he thinks he's Daniel Negreanu.
http://www.justin.tv/sangyerians
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
July 17 2011 03:45 GMT
#2013
Big congrats to Kiwi, great finish :D
the farm ends here
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
July 17 2011 03:46 GMT
#2014
On July 17 2011 12:09 Sangyerians wrote:
Poker is also more beginner friendly. Definitely not the hardcore strategies but if a beginner gets quad aces or something he thinks he's Daniel Negreanu.



I don't know where you came up with that opinion, because the majority of poker players are losing players.
Gooey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States944 Posts
July 17 2011 04:06 GMT
#2015
Main table coverage is back! Let's go McNiff!
www.twitch.tv/Thatgooey
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
July 17 2011 04:07 GMT
#2016
Pretty sure he just means that a newbie in SC2 won't win a single game especially against top players, whereas a newbie who put in his 10k and the main event could flop quad aces and take out that whiny Hellmuth guy (which would be awesome, he's worse than Idra).
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
July 17 2011 04:11 GMT
#2017
On July 17 2011 11:08 AdreN- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 10:42 FryktSkyene wrote:
Eh!

47k profit in 5-6 days Isn't bad :p

Buyin is 10K so its only 37K + pay taxes + whoever he shared action with. Still pretty awesome though.


What's "action"? Like some kind of money pimp?
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 17 2011 04:21 GMT
#2018
On July 17 2011 13:11 StyLeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 11:08 AdreN- wrote:
On July 17 2011 10:42 FryktSkyene wrote:
Eh!

47k profit in 5-6 days Isn't bad :p

Buyin is 10K so its only 37K + pay taxes + whoever he shared action with. Still pretty awesome though.


What's "action"? Like some kind of money pimp?

if someone bought in for him ie he didnt pay the 10k buyin
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
July 17 2011 04:22 GMT
#2019
On July 17 2011 11:04 Looms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 11:02 bluestuff wrote:
47k the equivalent of winning NASL :/

starcraft has a long way to go


umm players in the NASL dont put up $10k to play in the league...

they put up 50 bucks. So just figure out the proportion
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
July 17 2011 04:27 GMT
#2020
On July 17 2011 11:08 AdreN- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 10:42 FryktSkyene wrote:
Eh!

47k profit in 5-6 days Isn't bad :p

Buyin is 10K so its only 37K + pay taxes + whoever he shared action with. Still pretty awesome though.



Hes from canada so no taxes.
He bought in with Fayth someone in the thread said before but idk how much

But yeah. Making money over a week which most make in months
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