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Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
July 15 2011 23:09 GMT
#661
SK is probably using this to acquire sponsors. They will present MC and Nada as SK players with a long list of accomplishments. Sponsors will then go to SK's player profile and and get the impression that both players are exclusively playing for SK. Smart.
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Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
July 15 2011 23:10 GMT
#662
That...seems questionable, imo.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
July 15 2011 23:11 GMT
#663
On July 16 2011 08:09 Arcanne wrote:
SK is probably using this to acquire sponsors. They will present MC and Nada as SK players with a long list of accomplishments. Sponsors will then go to SK's player profile and and get the impression that both players are exclusively playing for SK. Smart.


LOL if these sponsors don't check the backgrounds of two of the most famous SC2 players in the world they deserved to get duped. But I don't think SK is stupid enough to try a stunt like that. A Google search would disprove it.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Wheelyman
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada53 Posts
July 15 2011 23:11 GMT
#664
I dont know if the question has been answered yet but what about the TLAF partnership? Will MC and Nada have a TLAF patch alongside with the SK patch? That sounds a bit overdoing it imo. I'm a bit confused.
DPK
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada487 Posts
July 15 2011 23:13 GMT
#665
Such a sad news. I will dislike SK even more after this. Buying their way into sc2 is just plain awful and make them look like just bad. I don't wanna see MC and NaDa wear the SK tag seriously... Wearing a SK badge on their shirt is OK because SK will act as a "sponsor" for them but wearing the tag in their names just NO.
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Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
July 15 2011 23:13 GMT
#666
On July 16 2011 08:11 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 08:09 Arcanne wrote:
SK is probably using this to acquire sponsors. They will present MC and Nada as SK players with a long list of accomplishments. Sponsors will then go to SK's player profile and and get the impression that both players are exclusively playing for SK. Smart.


LOL if these sponsors don't check the backgrounds of two of the most famous SC2 players in the world they deserved to get duped. But I don't think SK is stupid enough to try a stunt like that. A Google search would disprove it.


They will get sponsors though, that's the whole reason for this deal. The question is how much of that sponsorship money will go to oGs.
/commercial
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
July 15 2011 23:14 GMT
#667
On July 16 2011 08:13 DPK wrote:
Such a sad news. I will dislike SK even more after this. Buying their way into sc2 is just plain awful and make them look like just bad. I don't wanna see MC and NaDa wear the SK tag seriously... Wearing a SK badge on their shirt is OK because SK will act as a "sponsor" for them but wearing the tag in their names just NO.


They'll wear an SK shirt and a tag.
/commercial
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
July 15 2011 23:17 GMT
#668
On July 16 2011 08:13 Novalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 08:11 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On July 16 2011 08:09 Arcanne wrote:
SK is probably using this to acquire sponsors. They will present MC and Nada as SK players with a long list of accomplishments. Sponsors will then go to SK's player profile and and get the impression that both players are exclusively playing for SK. Smart.


LOL if these sponsors don't check the backgrounds of two of the most famous SC2 players in the world they deserved to get duped. But I don't think SK is stupid enough to try a stunt like that. A Google search would disprove it.


They will get sponsors though, that's the whole reason for this deal. The question is how much of that sponsorship money will go to oGs.


I imagine they will but SK won't pull out a baldfaced (and easily disprovable) lie to do so.

If they do get the sponsors I've concerned how SK will be using the money. Like I said before they haven't exactly laid out a long-term plan to establish themselves in the SC2 scene.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
July 15 2011 23:21 GMT
#669
This is good news because presumably SK will be flying these guys out to more events. MC is already quite prominent in the foreign scene, but this pretty much makes it guaranteed to see him at the vast majority of foreign events.

And honestly, I think whether you love or hate him, he brings a lot of excitement to every event he's at.
MaestrO_
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States591 Posts
July 15 2011 23:26 GMT
#670
oGs-TL-SK fighting?

As long as NaDa and MC continue going to foreign events, i don't really care what team they're representing. Just want to see some quality games out of top class players.
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
July 15 2011 23:34 GMT
#671
SK looking real weak these days. Such a shame.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
July 15 2011 23:39 GMT
#672
On July 16 2011 07:09 iNz wrote:
Reading some of the comments people are suggesting that oGs are doing SK the favour, but lets be honest SK holds a tighter grip on the E-sports scene.


SK has a tighter grip on the esports scene? Really? What with their CS team, quake players, and WoW team? Real esports powerhouse there. In the two largest esports scenes, SC and fighting games, they have shit. I would say they have a very weak grip on the esports scene and are grasping at straws here.
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
July 15 2011 23:41 GMT
#673
HeatoN says it all in the Fragbite interview. Really makes SK look bad.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
dreamsmasher
Profile Joined November 2010
816 Posts
July 15 2011 23:41 GMT
#674
On July 16 2011 04:53 SiNoCiDe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 04:50 SiNoCiDe wrote:
On July 16 2011 04:33 Olinim wrote:
On July 16 2011 04:25 SiNoCiDe wrote:
A shame that MC and Nada agreed to represent a trashy sponsor such as SK. They lost my respect after what they did to Madfrog.


What exactly did they do to madfrog?


Taken off the interview from Gosugamers

+ Show Spoiler +

"Fredrik needs more budget than we are willing to pay for one StarCraft 2 player at the moment," explained Muller. "He is a great guy and player and we had a good time to check where he and SK are in terms of StarCraft 2. But for him to do what he wants, probably moving to Korea and all, we would have to invest way more than what we think [an organization] should in StarCraft 2 these days."

"If [MaDFroG] were a top 5 candidate, it would have been a different scenario. I mean no disrespect, but to sum it up, his expectations and ours did not match for 2011," he said. "But it's a dynamic market. Anything can happen."

Muller also mentions that it is not so much about saving money:

- "I feel players have the wrong approach. Right now the casters are the stars, not the players," says Muller


Pretty trashy response for a player who did a lot for SK in WC3 and took best gamer of the year in '04. It's clear that SK are parasites just want to make money and market their brand. They don't give a shit about e-sports or the players that represent them.


? what do you mean. i wouldn't even put him in top 50 for sc2 players.
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-15 23:47:27
July 15 2011 23:45 GMT
#675
On July 16 2011 04:53 SiNoCiDe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 04:50 SiNoCiDe wrote:
On July 16 2011 04:33 Olinim wrote:
On July 16 2011 04:25 SiNoCiDe wrote:
A shame that MC and Nada agreed to represent a trashy sponsor such as SK. They lost my respect after what they did to Madfrog.


What exactly did they do to madfrog?


Taken off the interview from Gosugamers

+ Show Spoiler +

"Fredrik needs more budget than we are willing to pay for one StarCraft 2 player at the moment," explained Muller. "He is a great guy and player and we had a good time to check where he and SK are in terms of StarCraft 2. But for him to do what he wants, probably moving to Korea and all, we would have to invest way more than what we think [an organization] should in StarCraft 2 these days."

"If [MaDFroG] were a top 5 candidate, it would have been a different scenario. I mean no disrespect, but to sum it up, his expectations and ours did not match for 2011," he said. "But it's a dynamic market. Anything can happen."

Muller also mentions that it is not so much about saving money:

- "I feel players have the wrong approach. Right now the casters are the stars, not the players," says Muller


Pretty trashy response for a player who did a lot for SK in WC3 and took best gamer of the year in '04. It's clear that SK are parasites just want to make money and market their brand. They don't give a shit about e-sports or the players that represent them.


Sponsors have always been and always will be about making money, expanding their brand recognition, etc. I didn't even know sk HAD an SC2 team at all. You can't blame them for wanting good representation. If anything, that's BETTER for Esports, because Sponsorships SHOULD be difficult to obtain and require you to be one of the best, rather than a joke.

EDIT: No idea why I capitalized Sponsorships, including in this edit.
Sufroner
Profile Joined July 2011
Spain119 Posts
July 16 2011 00:09 GMT
#676
I think that MaDFroG was a bit too much greedy for his results and that SK can't be flamed for that move.

I really like that SK is going to sponsorship MC and NaDa and I think that it's a great way to position theirselves at the scene (because their former team was too much unknown), but it'll be a bit strange seeing them with different tags.
Everybody gets knocked down, how quick are you gonna get up?
kiy0
Profile Joined August 2010
Portugal593 Posts
July 16 2011 00:16 GMT
#677
SKMC and SKNaDa... can't say I saw this comming. Great news though.
Wisemen speak when they have something to say. Others speak when they have to say something.
Colonial
Profile Joined June 2011
United States81 Posts
July 16 2011 00:33 GMT
#678
SK Gaming has been doing poorly these days. It will actually make MC and Nada look bad. SK Gaming has been holding onto CS 1.6 too tightly these days and with such controversies surrounding the stealing of players from other teams and not paying their players which caused some to leave gives SK a bad name...Been following the CS scene since it came out and SK was the driving force of E-Sports but since they didn't approach SC2 with seriousness now they are lagging behind...and nobody wants to sponsor them...probably why they are making nada and MC represent them for SC2...

tl;dr

SK WAS a good organization but these days its full of people that don't know how to run their business.

"All your parties are our pre-parties cause you ain't from IV!"
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
July 16 2011 00:35 GMT
#679
wait so is this ruining esports? cause It seems like everything is ruining esports.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
July 16 2011 00:35 GMT
#680
One thing I always liked about SK they never attempt to make a team by getting the hot new up and comers it's always just "buy the best"
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
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