It's the weekend and time to rest for the GSL teams. It was very tough week for us because we broadcasted twice a day , but I really hope you guys enjoyed all the GSL and GSTL matches.
As part of our League Exchange Program with MLG, MLG and GSL will be sending 4 GSL pro players to MLG's Anaheim event July 29th - July 31st. Lee and I have been discussing which players to send for some time now and are pleased to announce the first two players to be invited by MLG.
First, MLG has set the policy that if a League Exchange Program player wins an MLG event, they will be invited back to the next Pro Circuit event. The first invitation spot goes to SlayerSMMA so that he can return to MLG and defend his title.
Joining him will the legend of Starcraft and the emperor Lim Yo Hwan "Boxer" to challenge his "son" and the other competitors for the title of MLG Anaheim Champion. At this time "succeeding you!!" is not for MMA but BoxeR
I am very excited to send these two excellent players to MLG's Anaheim event. Special thanks to MLG and Lee for their continuing support of our partnership and global e-sports.
GSL and MLG will announce last two players as soon as possible.
Don't forget (and don't confuse the times!)!! -- Next week all GSL / GSTL matches will be broadcasted at 18:10 KST.
You can find all information about GSL/GSTL below link
On July 02 2011 04:01 j4ckd4v13z wrote: Are the koreans all seeded into pool play? Or are some placed in the open bracket? (Like July last time)
July wasn't invited by MLG. July won a qualifying tournament that gave him an all-expenses paid trip, though he still had to go through the open bracket.
On July 02 2011 04:01 j4ckd4v13z wrote: Are the koreans all seeded into pool play? Or are some placed in the open bracket? (Like July last time)
All players invited as part of the League Exchange Program get seeded into the Championship Pool. If a player comes (like July) on their own (i.e. uninvited), they have to play thru Open.
On July 02 2011 04:00 aebriol wrote: This is awesome!
I hope they send DongRaeGu as well ... and, MC, for the drama !
I think the whole venue would collapse from all of the awesome if that happened...
Is CSN going to be doing another clash of the houses thing, or was that just a one-off thing? I'd love to see even more Korean players head to these MLG events.
I might fly over to attend and watch this amazing event. This is just too awesome! I really want Nestea and Genius aswell. I really want MKP aswell but that means the third terran
On July 02 2011 04:09 SigmaoctanusIV wrote: Damn going to get to spend a weekend with Boxer twice in one month living in Socal is absolutely amazing. :D
I'm sure MC will be there again... so along with the two unannounced ones and MMA/Boxer, there'll be at least 5 Koreans from the KR scene playing (Sorry for counting you separately, Moonan/Select ^_^).
We'll have to wait and see whether Moon, July and Losira also make the trip to make it a full 8 KR players (6 of which would be seeded in pool play).
On July 02 2011 04:07 GTR wrote: i wonder if boxer will stay in america after nasl to prepare for mlg
This is actually great point, from all, but business/practical aspect(where to live for that long period of time and to "create a gaming place".). However from pure esports point of view, to stay and get the "feel" of NA could be very good considering nothing keeps in Korea now - tournament wise.
On July 02 2011 04:01 j4ckd4v13z wrote: Are the koreans all seeded into pool play? Or are some placed in the open bracket? (Like July last time)
All players invited as part of the League Exchange Program get seeded into the Championship Pool. If a player comes (like July) on their own (i.e. uninvited), they have to play thru Open.
This isn't technically true. If IMLosira comes on his own, he has enough points to be seeded in championship pool play. Same with oGsMC. They wouldn't need to go through open bracket.
Ye, this sucks.. Wanted to TOP, MKP, Polt & Bomber so much more :-[ (As terran-representative) Hoping for DRG, Puzzle or someone else from Code A/B that hasnt been able to show their true potential in a big tourney..
besides.. BoxeR is rumoured to be quitting.. regardless if its false claims or not he doesnt belong to the *HOT* koreans atm..
Is it just me who thinks LosirA & MC were both playing better than MMA at Columbus?
On July 02 2011 04:01 j4ckd4v13z wrote: Are the koreans all seeded into pool play? Or are some placed in the open bracket? (Like July last time)
All players invited as part of the League Exchange Program get seeded into the Championship Pool. If a player comes (like July) on their own (i.e. uninvited), they have to play thru Open.
This isn't technically true. If IMLosira comes on his own, he has enough points to be seeded in championship pool play. Same with oGsMC. They wouldn't need to go through open bracket.
But you factor in the fact that they came for previous events. You are both right, just taking a slightly different approach.
I've been rooting against the koreans at foreign events for the most part. But I'll be rooting to see these 2 play eachother. Can anyone imagine them playing in the semi's or finals? Sooooo good
On July 02 2011 04:01 j4ckd4v13z wrote: Are the koreans all seeded into pool play? Or are some placed in the open bracket? (Like July last time)
All players invited as part of the League Exchange Program get seeded into the Championship Pool. If a player comes (like July) on their own (i.e. uninvited), they have to play thru Open.
This isn't technically true. If IMLosira comes on his own, he has enough points to be seeded in championship pool play. Same with oGsMC. They wouldn't need to go through open bracket.
But you factor in the fact that they came for previous events. You are both right, just taking a slightly different approach.
So this means, that both MMA and BoxeR who were just knocked out of code A can get into code S via MLG? Without going through the preliminaries? How nice.
GSL is sending big-name Code B players hoping they will win and bring more attention to code S. GOGO BOXER GRAB THAT CODE-S SPOT BY LOSING TO WHITE-RA IN FINALS BECAUSE WHITE-RA WOULDNT TAKE IT ANYWAY.
On July 02 2011 04:23 Phosgene wrote: So this means, that both MMA and BoxeR who were just knocked out of code A can get into code S via MLG? Without going through the preliminaries? How nice.
Maybe that was part of GSL's thought process, they know MMA is an amazing player and well... everyone loves boxer and everyone would love for him to be back in Code A/S. Come to think of it, I dont know a single person who doesn't like boxer haha
On July 02 2011 04:23 Phosgene wrote: So this means, that both MMA and BoxeR who were just knocked out of code A can get into code S via MLG? Without going through the preliminaries? How nice.
On July 02 2011 04:23 Phosgene wrote: So this means, that both MMA and BoxeR who were just knocked out of code A can get into code S via MLG? Without going through the preliminaries? How nice.
Yes, you are right but why so much hate ?
No hate, just saying. Because after translating all day interviews from Code A players who say how hard and crazy the preliminaries are. I just think it may be unfair for some of those kids who don't get such a chance.
On July 02 2011 04:23 Phosgene wrote: So this means, that both MMA and BoxeR who were just knocked out of code A can get into code S via MLG? Without going through the preliminaries? How nice.
Yes, you are right but why so much hate ?
Actually isn't he wrong ? I though they said the top non-korean would get the spot not the top spot ? At least that was the way with the code A spots from the last event I think.
from now on they will probably send the previous MLG champ( if applicable) and 3 code A players and below to MLG as it makes little sense to send a player who already has a code S spot.
On July 02 2011 04:23 Phosgene wrote: So this means, that both MMA and BoxeR who were just knocked out of code A can get into code S via MLG? Without going through the preliminaries? How nice.
Yes, you are right but why so much hate ?
No hate, just saying. Because after translating all day interviews from Code A players who say how hard and crazy the preliminaries are. I just think it may be unfair for some of those kids who don't get such a chance.
True. But nobody ever said life is fair and if that means Boxer or MMA has a chance at Code S spot. I won't complain.
Edit: Newcomers have always had to prove more than the old veterans to join their ranks.
On July 02 2011 04:01 j4ckd4v13z wrote: Are the koreans all seeded into pool play? Or are some placed in the open bracket? (Like July last time)
All players invited as part of the League Exchange Program get seeded into the Championship Pool. If a player comes (like July) on their own (i.e. uninvited), they have to play thru Open.
This isn't technically true. If IMLosira comes on his own, he has enough points to be seeded in championship pool play. Same with oGsMC. They wouldn't need to go through open bracket.
But you factor in the fact that they came for previous events. You are both right, just taking a slightly different approach.
Nope, that list is outdated and was posted before the final placement was finished at Columbus. Moon is 17th in the points and wouldn't qualify for seeding in the pool (if everyone shows up, that is - very likely that some won't come (TLO, Losira, maybe Socke if there's EPS) and everyone moves up a spot or two).
On July 02 2011 04:23 Phosgene wrote: So this means, that both MMA and BoxeR who were just knocked out of code A can get into code S via MLG? Without going through the preliminaries? How nice.
Yes, you are right but why so much hate ?
No hate, just saying. Because after translating all day interviews from Code A players who say how hard and crazy the preliminaries are. I just think it may be unfair for some of those kids who don't get such a chance.
Yes maybe I was to harsh, however code S spot is only for the winner of MLG, and that is not that easy. Every tournament no matter, what format is hard, the best player can be taken out by worse player through some cheese/gimmicky build. And those goes for both Code A and MLG. I know it's not "fair", but it's certainly nice to see that the winner of "LAN" event is worthy of GSL prime league spot.
So with MMA being 3rd in MLG overall rankings, and how the exchange programs works, does that mean you are going to take 17 people from rankings + 3 new Koreans to get to 20 total people in initial pool play? How will that work out?
Love boxer and all, but I would have preferred to see maybe DRG, since he just won that LG 3D tournament. He hasn't had his shot at Code S yet whereas Boxer has and fell out. I can understand GOMs decision though
Edit: Derp. Didn't see the part of the post saying there are 2 more players to be announced. There is still hope : ) .
On July 02 2011 04:31 gotyilk wrote: So with MMA being 3rd in MLG overall rankings, and how the exchange programs works, does that mean you are going to take 17 people from rankings + 3 new Koreans to get to 20 total people in initial pool play? How will that work out?
Probably, yeah.
Boxer + 2 unannounced players (if they are not in the rankings yet) are seeded straight into pool play, the rest is filled according to the rankings. So yeah, Top 17 (or rather 18 with TLO injured - Moon, Drewbie: you're in luck).
If July/MC/Moon/Losira decide to go on their own dime, their teams dime, do they retain their points from last mlg and get appropriate seeding? Is GSL not permitting them to go if they aren't 'invited'?
I wish I had money so I could go, plane tickets from NYC to Anaheim is expensive if you don't have a job . Also I predict the last 2 invites will be Bomber and DRG.
Holy crap sticks batman! I was super stoked when I got to meet JulyZerg at Columbus but I want to meet Boxer so bad!!!!!!!! So sad that I live on the east coast right now...
On July 02 2011 03:58 Kraznaya wrote: It's cool that Boxer is being sent and MMA can defend his title, but two terrans on the list already decreases the chances of MKP being sent
Well I'm all for sending 4 terrans from Korea. We have a shortage of good terrans in EU/NA.
Something told me he would go to MLG since, NASL finals is just a couple weeks, before, just like Withera will be attending. Also I guess he will stay over in the USA and take some holidays with his girl since it's this timeofthe yer :p
On July 02 2011 03:58 Kraznaya wrote: It's cool that Boxer is being sent and MMA can defend his title, but two terrans on the list already decreases the chances of MKP being sent
Well I'm all for sending 4 terrans from Korea. We have a shortage of good terrans in EU/NA.
Well, in case of europe at least we have Sjow, Thorzain, Kas, Strelok, Claud, (ev. TLO) I think they are not so bad.
Boxer should be wearing a crown and carrying a scepter, while he is carried in by a carriage made of nerds under a royal red carpet... or you know, whatever he's up to. Better see many pictures taken
And welcome back to MMA, I hope he can take another title convincingly... unless naniwa can make it XD
im happy but im also sad because i think this means MarineKing will not go since that is already 2 terran players. I would image the two companies to send now a protoss and a zerg. I'd pick NesTea and Alicia.
What's the point of inviting MMA when he already qualifies on points? He can go on his own and be seeded straight into pool play, and some other Korean who actually needs the invite can get it.
I know everyone wants high caliber code S players like NesTea and MC to come as well, but think about it, should they come thats one less korean from code A/B like say DongRaeGu, to have a shot at the Code S spot.
That said I hope DRG gets invited and I'm incredibly happy to see the Emperor himself in America!!!!
On July 02 2011 04:47 ReviLLuSion wrote: Flying in allllllll the way from Virginia for this!!
I'm flying in from Delaware for this, I was already excited before I knew Boxer was going but now I'm ecstatic. EDIT: I hope MC gets an invite as well, I was at Columbus and MC in particular made that event so epic.
On July 02 2011 04:53 alexhard wrote: What's the point of inviting MMA when he already qualifies on points? He can go on his own and be seeded straight into pool play, and some other Korean who actually needs the invite can get it.
On July 02 2011 04:50 Isaac wrote: im happy but im also sad because i think this means MarineKing will not go since that is already 2 terran players. I would image the two companies to send now a protoss and a zerg. I'd pick NesTea and Alicia.
Nestea would win MLG without even breaking a sweat. It's boring to send in established code S players. I'd rather see some upcoming superheroes, like DRG and Puzzle. Maybe Moon again, who always does well outside Korea.
I know I already said how awesome this is, but got to say it again (AWESOME) but also very big props to MLG for helping start a program that will end with Boxer playing at a live LAN in NA! So cool!
On July 02 2011 04:50 Isaac wrote: im happy but im also sad because i think this means MarineKing will not go since that is already 2 terran players. I would image the two companies to send now a protoss and a zerg. I'd pick NesTea and Alicia.
Nestea would win MLG without even breaking a sweat. It's boring to send in established code S players. I'd rather see some upcoming superheroes, like DRG and Puzzle. Maybe Moon again, who always does well outside Korea.
Nestea hasn't won any foreign tourneys he's entered, lol.
On July 02 2011 05:04 Whynaut wrote: Boxer's gonna be in the open bracket. I'm guessing a few hundred random people just bought a player pass in hopes of facing him.
On July 02 2011 04:53 alexhard wrote: What's the point of inviting MMA when he already qualifies on points? He can go on his own and be seeded straight into pool play, and some other Korean who actually needs the invite can get it.
I'm pretty sure invites get their expenses paid by MLG. Nobody is going to go on his own unless his sponsor or somebody else picks up the tab. MLG's 4th place prize barely covers the plane ticket.
On July 02 2011 05:04 Whynaut wrote: Boxer's gonna be in the open bracket. I'm guessing a few hundred random people just bought a player pass in hopes of facing him.
If he's one of the invitees then shouldn't he be seeded into pool play?
On July 02 2011 05:04 Whynaut wrote: Boxer's gonna be in the open bracket. I'm guessing a few hundred random people just bought a player pass in hopes of facing him.
He won't, because he's an invite. July wasn't seeded in the past MLG because a separate organization funded his expenses.
Good pick, but now I don't like the chances of mkp getting invited now. I wanted him to be invited so bad and would have liked slayers to pay for mma to free up an invite spot instead of getting a repeat.
Also I'm pretty sure Bomber is already invited because mlg announced he would be going to anaheim after the visa issues, so that leaves only 1 invite spot.
Ideally, the invites should have been, Boxer, MKP, Bomber, DRG with slayers paying for MMA. Kind of feel like it's a waste to use a precious invite on a repeat player as I'm sure slayers could afford to send MMA on their own.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought there was a stipulation in the GSL/MLG exchange program that stated that those who do win (or place high enough) at MLG get a placement in GSL code A or S, except for the Korean nationals. Was this change between MLGs?
That's cool, I hope the other 2 players will be a zerg and a protoss. Maybe DRG and Sage, code B players that are actually good and could use the code S pass! =D
On July 02 2011 05:10 xavierofsparta wrote: Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought there was a stipulation in the GSL/MLG exchange program that stated that those who do win (or place high enough) at MLG get a placement in GSL code A or S, except for the Korean nationals. Was this change between MLGs?
does GSL own these players or something? how is it up to GSL to decide who does and doesnt go? surley the players managers/the players themselves should decide? or am i missing something? does anyone know if HuKs going?
The one thing that worries me is boxer's shoulder. MLG is constant playing back to back unlike the gsl where there are breaks for matches. This has some thoughts for me.
On July 02 2011 05:10 xavierofsparta wrote: Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought there was a stipulation in the GSL/MLG exchange program that stated that those who do win (or place high enough) at MLG get a placement in GSL code A or S, except for the Korean nationals. Was this change between MLGs?
the code S spot is available for anyone. the gsl exchange program koreans are not eligible for the code A spots.
On July 02 2011 05:15 ThatGuy89 wrote: does GSL own these players or something? how is it up to GSL to decide who does and doesnt go? surley the players managers/the players themselves should decide? or am i missing something? does anyone know if HuKs going?
questions ftw eh :D
I'm pretty sure since GSL are the ones paying for the trip, they get to decide who they invite for it.
On July 02 2011 05:15 ThatGuy89 wrote: does GSL own these players or something? how is it up to GSL to decide who does and doesnt go? surley the players managers/the players themselves should decide? or am i missing something? does anyone know if HuKs going?
questions ftw eh :D
Lol wtf? Why should the players decide? How would that be sorted out when a bunch of koreans want to go with only 4 spots?
going to assume the other KR slots will be filled by a Zerg & Protoss player so hope the Zerg representative will be Nestea or DRG
don't care who the Protoss representative will be although I doubt MC will be sent again.
On July 02 2011 05:15 ThatGuy89 wrote: does GSL own these players or something? how is it up to GSL to decide who does and doesnt go? surley the players managers/the players themselves should decide? or am i missing something? does anyone know if HuKs going?
questions ftw eh :D
whoever gets invited, will have their travel & lodging costs covered for them. non-invited players can attend MLG Anaheim if they'd like. they'd just have to find a sponsor or use their own resources to do it.
On July 02 2011 05:15 ThatGuy89 wrote: does GSL own these players or something? how is it up to GSL to decide who does and doesnt go? surley the players managers/the players themselves should decide? or am i missing something? does anyone know if HuKs going?
questions ftw eh :D
GSL pays the fares, so GSL picks the players. The players not picked can still elect to go, but won't have their trip paid for.
On July 02 2011 05:10 xavierofsparta wrote: Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought there was a stipulation in the GSL/MLG exchange program that stated that those who do win (or place high enough) at MLG get a placement in GSL code A or S, except for the Korean nationals. Was this change between MLGs?
Not really, what do you mean?
That the only players that can take advantage of the automatic placement into the GSL via MLG are non-Koreans. I am fairly certain that this was the case when the arrangement between the leagues originally happened. I am just unsure if it is still the case, since there are a few people in this thread stating that is is a way for MMA or Boxer to get back into code A or S.
does GSL own these players or something? how is it up to GSL to decide who does and doesnt go?
I think they are (MLG and GSL) putting up the money to get the players here, so in that regard they have some choice of who they are sending and seeding into the tournament.
I don't see any reason why any other Korean players couldn't come play if they got over here, they'd just go through the open bracket though. But if MLG and GSL are going to put up the money and the tournament is going to give them an advantageous seed I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be picking the players. They want not only good players but ones that will bring the fans because after all it is about money. Having Boxer will bring in the viewers more than pretty much any player so that is an obvious choice, along with bringing back the player that won it to defend.
I think the timing of this is perfect for Boxer. The support he gets at MLG will be insane, and after the recent criticisms coming at him from within Korea it should be a great pick up.
On July 02 2011 05:10 xavierofsparta wrote: Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought there was a stipulation in the GSL/MLG exchange program that stated that those who do win (or place high enough) at MLG get a placement in GSL code A or S, except for the Korean nationals. Was this change between MLGs?
Not really, what do you mean?
That the only players that can take advantage of the automatic placement into the GSL via MLG are non-Koreans. I am fairly certain that this was the case when the arrangement between the leagues originally happened. I am just unsure if it is still the case, since there are a few people in this thread stating that is is a way for MMA or Boxer to get back into code A or S.
AFAIK the rules always were 3 Code A spots open only to non-Koreans and 1 Code S spot open to any non-Code-S player (Only applies to MLGs after Columbus).
Oh man. HYPE!!1 I do worry about BoxeR pushing his shoulder too much as well though, but just him being there is going to be awesome. And any games we can send MMA's way are always good of course, guy's got something, be it a little raw still.
Also, thanks for the continuous efforts to improve things for the fans MLG/GOM <3
On July 02 2011 05:10 xavierofsparta wrote: Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought there was a stipulation in the GSL/MLG exchange program that stated that those who do win (or place high enough) at MLG get a placement in GSL code A or S, except for the Korean nationals. Was this change between MLGs?
Not really, what do you mean?
That the only players that can take advantage of the automatic placement into the GSL via MLG are non-Koreans. I am fairly certain that this was the case when the arrangement between the leagues originally happened. I am just unsure if it is still the case, since there are a few people in this thread stating that is is a way for MMA or Boxer to get back into code A or S.
They can get into Code S if they win, but not Code A.
Winner of MLG (korean or non korean) gets a code S spot. Next 3 (not invited korean, don't know how it is if someone paid for their own trip to go through open bracket) that accept get a code A invite.
On July 02 2011 05:15 ThatGuy89 wrote: does GSL own these players or something? how is it up to GSL to decide who does and doesnt go? surley the players managers/the players themselves should decide? or am i missing something? does anyone know if HuKs going?
questions ftw eh :D
Lol wtf? Why should the players decide? How would that be sorted out when a bunch of koreans want to go with only 4 spots?
maybe people didnt understand what i was saying. why should the players decide? are you crazy? i know this is their life - for most of them - but the way its worded is like GSL saying 'youre going and thats that' fair enough if GSL are paying for it but that doesnt mean that the players should just drop everything and go? all i meant was, do the players actually get any kind of say in the matter?
On July 02 2011 05:15 ThatGuy89 wrote: does GSL own these players or something? how is it up to GSL to decide who does and doesnt go? surley the players managers/the players themselves should decide? or am i missing something? does anyone know if HuKs going?
questions ftw eh :D
Lol wtf? Why should the players decide? How would that be sorted out when a bunch of koreans want to go with only 4 spots?
maybe people didnt understand what i was saying. why should the players decide? are you crazy? i know this is their life - for most of them - but the way its worded is like GSL saying 'youre going and thats that' fair enough if GSL are paying for it but that doesnt mean that the players should just drop everything and go? all i meant was, do the players actually get any kind of say in the matter?
Obviously they can't force the players to go against their will. Not even Kespa could pull that shit (maybe).
On July 02 2011 05:15 ThatGuy89 wrote: does GSL own these players or something? how is it up to GSL to decide who does and doesnt go? surley the players managers/the players themselves should decide? or am i missing something? does anyone know if HuKs going?
questions ftw eh :D
Lol wtf? Why should the players decide? How would that be sorted out when a bunch of koreans want to go with only 4 spots?
maybe people didnt understand what i was saying. why should the players decide? are you crazy? i know this is their life - for most of them - but the way its worded is like GSL saying 'youre going and thats that' fair enough if GSL are paying for it but that doesnt mean that the players should just drop everything and go? all i meant was, do the players actually get any kind of say in the matter?
Of course they get a say. Why would you think it was any other way? + Show Spoiler +
On July 02 2011 05:15 ThatGuy89 wrote: does GSL own these players or something? how is it up to GSL to decide who does and doesnt go? surley the players managers/the players themselves should decide? or am i missing something? does anyone know if HuKs going?
questions ftw eh :D
Lol wtf? Why should the players decide? How would that be sorted out when a bunch of koreans want to go with only 4 spots?
maybe people didnt understand what i was saying. why should the players decide? are you crazy? i know this is their life - for most of them - but the way its worded is like GSL saying 'youre going and thats that' fair enough if GSL are paying for it but that doesnt mean that the players should just drop everything and go? all i meant was, do the players actually get any kind of say in the matter?
Of course, if they don't want to go they don't go and the invite is given to someone else. I reckon they discussed a lot, invited the players, and then when they got a confirmation they announced it. Anything else would be stupid.
On July 02 2011 05:15 ThatGuy89 wrote: does GSL own these players or something? how is it up to GSL to decide who does and doesnt go? surley the players managers/the players themselves should decide? or am i missing something? does anyone know if HuKs going?
questions ftw eh :D
Lol wtf? Why should the players decide? How would that be sorted out when a bunch of koreans want to go with only 4 spots?
maybe people didnt understand what i was saying. why should the players decide? are you crazy? i know this is their life - for most of them - but the way its worded is like GSL saying 'youre going and thats that' fair enough if GSL are paying for it but that doesnt mean that the players should just drop everything and go? all i meant was, do the players actually get any kind of say in the matter?
What of course the koreans get a say in the matter. They're all saying PICK ME!!
On July 02 2011 05:15 ThatGuy89 wrote: does GSL own these players or something? how is it up to GSL to decide who does and doesnt go? surley the players managers/the players themselves should decide? or am i missing something? does anyone know if HuKs going?
questions ftw eh :D
Lol wtf? Why should the players decide? How would that be sorted out when a bunch of koreans want to go with only 4 spots?
maybe people didnt understand what i was saying. why should the players decide? are you crazy? i know this is their life - for most of them - but the way its worded is like GSL saying 'youre going and thats that' fair enough if GSL are paying for it but that doesnt mean that the players should just drop everything and go? all i meant was, do the players actually get any kind of say in the matter?
They don't decide just like any other invitational-like tournament ಠ_ಠ
They probably can put there name in the hat figuratively but... I don't even know what you're saying.
hm, guessing the reasons for these choices: MMA: to be able to defend his title Boxer: to use his popularity in both Korea and the Rest of the World to advertise the GSL
What if boxer faced mma in the finals! Does boxer go, son it's time to take one for the team and let me have my code s spot!! Nah...boxer would have too much honour to match fix!
I don't know why they are trying this hard to get BoxeR and MMA into code s. Even if they get code s from mlg, they will drop down to code b anyway. I guess people don't want these two to play code a preliminaries.
This is some pretty cool news, looking forward to see how they'll perform, I'd only imagine them doing well. Also curious to find out who the last two will be, personally I'm hoping for MC, I'm always happy when seeing his name in foreign tournaments, however I bet it's unlikely for anyone but the winner to receive an invite twice in a row.
On July 02 2011 05:47 Canucklehead wrote: What if boxer faced mma in the finals! Does boxer go, son it's time to take one for the team and let me have my code s spot!! Nah...boxer would have to much honour to match fix!
I'm building up my thick skin now in case one of them wins, followed by the trolls saying it's not legit because they lost their code A matches.
On July 02 2011 05:47 Djagulingu wrote: I don't know why they are trying this hard to get BoxeR and MMA into code s. Even if they get code s from mlg, they will drop down to code b anyway. I guess people don't want these two to play code a preliminaries.
you sicken me. even if these two were in Code S, they would be going to MLG because they are competitors. btw MMA and Boxer are Code S level. They are just in a slump.
I really wonder who the other 2 players will be. One thing that I'm thinking about is how many unique players are the Koreans going to send. If they keep sending the winner of the previous MLG tournament + 3 people who haven't played that year we will have a metric ton of Koreans in the grand finals since Koreans do so well. If they keep sending the same people back with only a few new people then the grand finals late this year will have only a few Koreans.
Hell yeah, after that shitty article thats going around about boxers downfall it is time to show him how much support he has in the foreign scene! I really hope that the venue will explode into chant/cheers whenever boxer is on stage. Show him how much we love him and make that MMA chant look like child play.
On July 02 2011 05:47 Djagulingu wrote: I don't know why they are trying this hard to get BoxeR and MMA into code s. Even if they get code s from mlg, they will drop down to code b anyway. I guess people don't want these two to play code a preliminaries.
you sicken me. even if these two were in Code S, they would be going to MLG because they are competitors. btw MMA and Boxer are Code S level. They are just in a slump.
They might be in a slump but neither are code s level. Especially considering the fact that there are lots and lots of new up and coming players like sage, puzzle, asd, dream, dongraegu and others. In fact, they are hardly code a level and one of those guys will get a free pass to code s while people like dongraegu, thestc, puzzle, asd, dream and sage have to take the code b -> code a -> code s road. Even code b is fucking stacked with better players.
I hope that Losira and MC show interest in Anaheim and come to play regardless of the whole "exchange" program, since they're seeded in the pool play now anyway.
The whole point of the exchange program is really to compensate for the travel costs. That is the whole issue now with the globalization of Starcraft2. Players simply can't afford to shell out hundreds or thousands of dollars every few weeks to fly around the world, not to mention the sleep and practice toll is takes. It would be awesome if an airline corporation decides to sponsor eSports in some fashion because I think that would be a HUGE boost to the mobilization of players around the world.
I hope that Losira and MC show interest in Anaheim and come to play regardless of the whole "exchange" program, since they're seeded in the pool play now anyway.
MC has been traveling like crazy the last two months, he may want a break. He said at the end of Homestory he was traveling so much he had little time to practice.
Im only scared that MLG stream will fail cause they will undeerestimate the amount of people that is gonna watch boxer. Man I would be so pissed off when I hear day9 go "give a cheer for boxer" then streams dies.... gonna buy premium just to see boxer in HD.
I swear to god, if I watch a Boxer comeback all the way to the finals to get defeated by his protege one more time, I will cry man-tears for days on end. And maybe follow that up with a state-wide killing spree, who knows?
On July 02 2011 06:30 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote: I swear to god, if I watch a Boxer comeback all the way to the finals to get defeated by his protege one more time, I will cry man-tears for days on end. And maybe follow that up with a state-wide killing spree, who knows?
Gogo BoXeR!!!
What state are you in? Also, white-ra boxer BW rematch in finals. White-ra will win.
oh....my....god! I have plans on going to the finals but really.... It would be so insane to get to see Boxer live! Damn.. how much can a ticket to LA really cost
On July 02 2011 03:58 Kraznaya wrote: It's cool that Boxer is being sent and MMA can defend his title, but two terrans on the list already decreases the chances of MKP being sent
This was my first thought exactly.
Oh well, at least DRG is probably going as well... I wonder who the protoss will be tho... Can't really think of any that are really viable candidates.
Then again, it was originally gonna be bomber, MMA, Losira and Moon last time, so I guess I could see them not entirely caring about racial distribution among the koreans. It'd be a little wierd if they sent Alicia, 3 "slayers" players might not look good to some (I think it'd be sick of course lol).
REALLY hope they send MKP as well tho.
Foxer, Boxer, and MMA!? Holy shit that'd be exciting. Especially with DRG lurking in the shadows
Marineking for 3rd spot please. So you'll have the whole female population@Anaheim too <3 (and the whole "I'm not gay but it's MKP so I'm a little bicurious")
Great news still hope MLG will take some action to make the experience a bit better for the people that don't get placed but have to play a shitload of matches in very little time. After reading comments about that from July, Thorzain etc i fear people outside the USA will stop coming to MLG because so many matches in combination with a jetlag seems to be too exhausting to have a fair chance of competing in the next round the day after.
I hope they save all the awesome people for Raleigh, specifically the grandmaster of Zerg. It would be an honor to stand before the emperor, but I'd rather stand before Nestea instead.
On July 02 2011 05:47 Djagulingu wrote: I don't know why they are trying this hard to get BoxeR and MMA into code s. Even if they get code s from mlg, they will drop down to code b anyway. I guess people don't want these two to play code a preliminaries.
you sicken me. even if these two were in Code S, they would be going to MLG because they are competitors. btw MMA and Boxer are Code S level. They are just in a slump.
MMA isnt really in a big slump. He lost a game to a protoss who likely will make it into code S. Before that he won both MLG and came in second at Super Tournament. Boxer is someone who I think doenst play well to his style. He likes to do midgame timing attacking against his opponents to avoid endgame because his macro isnt very good. However I think he should probably do opposite since endgame macro is easier then midgame macro and his micro is still terrific.
MMA isnt really in a big slump. He lost a game to a protoss who likely will make it into code S. Before that he won both MLG and came in second at Super Tournament.
This. Code B may be the most brutal, but Code A is definitely brutal as well. Get someone who is very good in your first game (or simply not play your best games) and you are back down to B. Code S you have to get 4th place out of 4 people in your group and not make it through up/downs, much more stability than A.
I'm sorry if this was answered, but will MMA be the number 3 seed? If so does this mean that the 17th overall seed will be in pool play, since otherwise there would only be 19 players instead of 20 in pool play. Also where would the 17th seed be placed? Would he be placed where the fourth Korean would usually be placed in group A of pool play. Of course none of this would matter if MMA was just seeded as a normal GSL invite.
I hope they don't base the last two picks on race. It's not like Koreans will be the only players there, there are plenty of NA/EU players representing Toss/Zerg. Fact is a lot of top players in Korea right now, or at least players people want to see, are Terran.
They released the pools for Anaheim. Won't the top 16 change now that it is announce that MMA will be returning to anaheim? He's not just some generic GSL invite. He's got accumulated points.
oh man! can't wait for this!!!! i'm going to try my hardest to meet him, even though he'll have the secret service around him at all times, escorting him to and from his matches
I can't even express how awesome this is. NASL Finals, a LAN tournament at Odyssey gaming for 2 thousand bucks, and MLG Anaheim all 20 minutes from my house and within three weeks of each other. My life is complete. Also, PM me if you'd like any info on the Odyssey gaming LAN tourney. Pros and AMs are welcome. Excuse my shameless plug.
On July 02 2011 07:22 Refused. wrote: The last two will be DRG and MC.
MC won't get invited since he got invited last time and mlg said it would be 4 new koreans each time until today when they suddenly added in the rule the champion would be re-invited hence the reason for mma again.
MLG Anaheim is going to be awesome, ahhh I want to be a part of it so badly! It's so awesome that MMA is coming back to defend his title and that The Emperor is going to be there as well. Can't wait to see those two play some games on the main stage against the best MLG has to offer. I'm so glad that Huk and Naniwa will be back as well, can't wait!
I seriously can not be more excited about MLG Anaheim.
On July 02 2011 04:00 iNcontroL wrote: I want boxer
s head?
Back on topic. I would love to see MMA and Boxer have a little TvT showdown. It is Boxers best MU, he probably knows everything MMA can throw at him, while MMA should have seen a little less of Boxer. It should be a great game unless his shoulder is a big problem.
On July 02 2011 04:08 videogames wrote: That's one Korean who might be eliminated by foreigners
If your talking about boxer, there is nothing that supports that statement. Boxer went 8-1 in his NASL group only losing to fellow korean zenio, and thats with latency.
Also boxer took out two of the very top foreigners in the NASL sen and idra. I see no reason why he would be more likely then others to have troubles with foreigners considering hes proven himself more than most against foreigners already.
On July 02 2011 04:00 iNcontroL wrote: I want boxer
s head?
Back on topic. I would love to see MMA and Boxer have a little TvT showdown. It is Boxers best MU, he probably knows everything MMA can throw at him, while MMA should have seen a little less of Boxer. It should be a great game unless his shoulder is a big problem.
Yea boxer's TVT can be really impressive, thats why i was dissapointed with his games against ASD, i know for sure boxer in top form could dismantle asd but he was being so indecisive trying to play mind games on top of mind games, possibly from overpracticing.
I love boxer and i hope he can overcome the troubles hes been having, favourite esports player ever! XD
Wow, great news for MLG, and obviously for any fans close enough to make it in. For my part I'm looking forward to watching it from home, should be a satisfying weekend.
DRG seems like a shoo-in for zerg, and as for Protoss? I'm not sure :o I hope they can find someone else besides MC, just to get some new blood in there.
On July 02 2011 08:17 Sina92 wrote: Is there a good reason they are sending Boxer and not a more accomplished SC2 player?
-He accepted -The fans want to see Boxer = more tickets/viewers -Its Boxer... -MMA is already going so logistically sending another SlayerS member would probably be a lot easier. -He has the time to do it... -etc.
On July 02 2011 08:17 Sina92 wrote: Is there a good reason they are sending Boxer and not a more accomplished SC2 player?
-He accepted -The fans want to see Boxer = more tickets/viewers -Its Boxer... -MMA is already going so logistically sending another SlayerS member would probably be a lot easier. -He has the time to do it... -etc.
So you agree his invite had nothing or very little to do with his skills. They want viewers.
On July 02 2011 08:17 Sina92 wrote: Is there a good reason they are sending Boxer and not a more accomplished SC2 player?
-He accepted -The fans want to see Boxer = more tickets/viewers -Its Boxer... -MMA is already going so logistically sending another SlayerS member would probably be a lot easier. -He has the time to do it... -etc.
So you agree his invite had nothing or very little to do with his skills. They want viewers.
On July 02 2011 08:17 Sina92 wrote: Is there a good reason they are sending Boxer and not a more accomplished SC2 player?
-He accepted -The fans want to see Boxer = more tickets/viewers -Its Boxer... -MMA is already going so logistically sending another SlayerS member would probably be a lot easier. -He has the time to do it... -etc.
So you agree his invite had nothing or very little to do with his skills. They want viewers.
Boxer is still better than most of the players seeded.
I Dare MLG to put IdrA and Boxer in the same pool, that would be the most epic series EVER!!!!!! And is CSL going to do the open pool invite thing again?
On July 02 2011 08:26 MechKing wrote: Honestly I'd rather see someone like MVP than boxer.
Has IM applied for NASL at all? I'd rather see someone that shows an interest in the west. Their players might have the interest, but for whatever reason it feels like they aren't allowed to apply for NASL. I think most everyone else would rather see Boxer anwyay, even tho IMMvp would be awesome.
On July 02 2011 08:31 xbankx wrote: Boxer will draw more viewers than any other pro ever. I do hope they invite MVP. The best terran in the world deserves this...
He sure does deserve it, but sadly skill doesn't seem to be a deciding factor. Anyway, the fans in Anaheim should cheer Boxer up, he said he only plays for the fans and there should be plenty of them there.
On July 02 2011 08:26 MechKing wrote: Honestly I'd rather see someone like MVP than boxer.
Has IM applied for NASL at all? I'd rather see someone that shows an interest in the west. Their players might have the interest, but for whatever reason it feels like they aren't allowed to apply for NASL. I think most everyone else would rather see Boxer anwyay, even tho IMMvp would be awesome.
IM doesn't really have anyone that speaks english on their team afaik. One of the people in charge of the FXO events said it's really hard to get in touch with them since they speak very limited english, so Idk how well they can communicate with the western tournaments.
On July 02 2011 08:31 xbankx wrote: Boxer will draw more viewers than any other pro ever. I do hope they invite MVP. The best terran in the world deserves this...
He sure does deserve it, but sadly skill doesn't seem to be a deciding factor. Anyway, the fans in Anaheim should cheer Boxer up, he said he only plays for the fans and there should be plenty of them there.
When they had voting ballets in NASL season 1, MVP beat every korean by a landslide. Doesn't say much, but he's a very popular player.
On July 02 2011 08:31 xbankx wrote: Boxer will draw more viewers than any other pro ever. I do hope they invite MVP. The best terran in the world deserves this...
He sure does deserve it, but sadly skill doesn't seem to be a deciding factor. Anyway, the fans in Anaheim should cheer Boxer up, he said he only plays for the fans and there should be plenty of them there.
When they had voting ballets in NASL season 1, MVP beat every korean by a landslide. Doesn't say much, but he's a very popular player.
He's my favorite player but he doesn't seem to have the "hype" factor. He is pretty popular, but I think that's only because of his results.
On July 02 2011 08:34 Powerfoe wrote: How about san and DongRaeGu. Both I think are Code S calibre and not even in Code A.
DRG sure but not San. I guess it will be someone who drops out of Code S/A early. Potentially Bomber/Polt/MVP then but I doubt they'd send more than two Terran's. Alicia might be a good pick.
On July 02 2011 08:31 xbankx wrote: Boxer will draw more viewers than any other pro ever. I do hope they invite MVP. The best terran in the world deserves this...
He sure does deserve it, but sadly skill doesn't seem to be a deciding factor. Anyway, the fans in Anaheim should cheer Boxer up, he said he only plays for the fans and there should be plenty of them there.
When they had voting ballets in NASL season 1, MVP beat every korean by a landslide. Doesn't say much, but he's a very popular player.
He's my favorite player but he doesn't seem to have the "hype" factor. He is pretty popular, but I think that's only because of his results.
It prolly just seems like that because we haven't seen him in LONG.
On July 02 2011 08:31 xbankx wrote: Boxer will draw more viewers than any other pro ever. I do hope they invite MVP. The best terran in the world deserves this...
He sure does deserve it, but sadly skill doesn't seem to be a deciding factor. Anyway, the fans in Anaheim should cheer Boxer up, he said he only plays for the fans and there should be plenty of them there.
When they had voting ballets in NASL season 1, MVP beat every korean by a landslide. Doesn't say much, but he's a very popular player.
He's my favorite player but he doesn't seem to have the "hype" factor. He is pretty popular, but I think that's only because of his results.
It prolly just seems like that because we haven't seen him in LONG.
MVP is one of those guys who are quickly forgotten if they aren't producing results. MKP hasn't done shit in a while, but because he has a legion of fans who aren't his fans due of his SC2 skills, it doesn't matter.
Look at the Fantasy Team League picks. NesTea was picked FAR more than MVP, even though NesTea almost never plays in the GSTL, and MVP has the most wins out of anyone not named MMA, even with IM not participating in the last GSTL.
On July 02 2011 05:09 Canucklehead wrote: Good pick, but now I don't like the chances of mkp getting invited now. I wanted him to be invited so bad and would have liked slayers to pay for mma to free up an invite spot instead of getting a repeat.
Also I'm pretty sure Bomber is already invited because mlg announced he would be going to anaheim after the visa issues, so that leaves only 1 invite spot.
Ideally, the invites should have been, Boxer, MKP, Bomber, DRG with slayers paying for MMA. Kind of feel like it's a waste to use a precious invite on a repeat player as I'm sure slayers could afford to send MMA on their own.
Indeed. We want Foxer!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't see how anyone can not love foxer, I don't see anything more awesome than him and boxer both being in Anaheim. Please send Foxer :S
On July 02 2011 10:14 iamthedave wrote: I hope his shoulder holds up. MLG is pretty punishing.
Honestly, as much as I'd love to see the Emperor compete at MLG it seems like the absolute WORST tournament to compete in if you have health issues.
None the less best of luck to the Emperor and MMA, I'd love seeing either of you get the code S spot
On a side note, what if Naniwa wins? Is anaheim during GSL July or August? I mean obviously he will get code S but what will happen to his code A spot that he would potentially be leaving empty?
[QUOTE]On July 02 2011 10:19 chipmonklord17 wrote: [QUOTE]On July 02 2011 10:14 iamthedave wrote:
On a side note, what if Naniwa wins? Is anaheim during GSL July or August? I mean obviously he will get code S but what will happen to his code A spot that he would potentially be leaving empty?[/QUOTE]
I assume if naniwa won code s, then there would just be one more open spot in the code b qualifiers to be won. Right now there are only 12 code a spots to be had by koreans with sase, naniwa, fenix and thorzain taking 4 spots.
Sheth is dropping out of august code A, so I assume there will now be 13 spots to be had for koreans.
if i remember correctly , bomber was suppose to come last mlg but could not, then there was some response where he would be coming the next mlg instead
Just realized, we won't see many other commitments until after the Ro32 from Code S. Legitimate finals contenders wouldn't agree to come and then have to drop out, most likely, as the finals & MLG Anaheim are the same time.
So, if you really want your favorite player in Code S to come over, hope they take 3rd in their group.
MLG Lee tweeted that Bomber's case will depend on whether he can progress to the GSL Final or not. (GSL Final is on 30th, MLG is from 29th to 31st). So it applies to all other remaining Code S players
On July 02 2011 11:07 Arceus wrote: MLG Lee tweeted that Bomber's case will depend on whether he can progress to the GSL Final or not. (GSL Final is on 30th, MLG is from 29th to 31st). So it applies to all other remaining Code S players
Ah too bad, MC definitely won't be able to go now...^.^
Double edged sword for Boxer. He will be greeted with so much praise here, however if he doesn't perform as well as the Koreans like the netziens are going to be so brutal. Wish him the best of luck and wanting a first place finish for him!
On July 02 2011 11:26 Irave wrote: Double edged sword for Boxer. He will be greeted with so much praise here, however if he doesn't perform as well as the Koreans like the netziens are going to be so brutal. Wish him the best of luck and wanting a first place finish for him!
I forsee someone beating him on stage, then promptly apologizing.
Sheth wasn't much of a traveler in BW, this is (I think) his first big year, he might be a bit worn out. That plane flight to Korea, plus cost of living would be difficult even without the language barrier
On July 02 2011 11:41 sambo400 wrote: Sheth wasn't much of a traveler in BW, this is (I think) his first big year, he might be a bit worn out. That plane flight to Korea, plus cost of living would be difficult even without the language barrier
his team pays for flights and cost of living so...
this is the first ive heard of shelth not returning to code a, any actual proof?
It makes me really really really sad to live here far from US Europe and KR(even from here air tix to KR are not cheap at all). I hope the passionate fans in MLG can cheer on Boxer and MMA and help rejuvenate their spirits!
nestea and polt for others please, just bring the best names. I guess boxer is great for the big name but i think he'll be the first korean to not do well, depending on the pool he is in he can still get first but i don't see him doing well in the knockout system after that really.
On July 02 2011 13:05 Markwerf wrote: nestea and polt for others please, just bring the best names. I guess boxer is great for the big name but i think he'll be the first korean to not do well, depending on the pool he is in he can still get first but i don't see him doing well in the knockout system after that really.
They cant send Nestea and Polt if they win there GSL Ro32 matches because of finals being on same day.
Wait a second, this should make the 2nd and 3rd players invited. It was discussed on Inside the Game by MLG Lee and Mr. Chae that ST_Bomber would be the 1st player invited to MLG Anaheim. I specifically remember the discussion of who would be invited and being excited to see bomber, is this not the case anymore? And if not why leave that information out of this post? It would be a real shame to see them retract their previous statements about allowing bomber to play in MLG. And although I like Slayers_Boxer, I really would like to see them choose at least 1 player from each race instead of sending us 3 or 4 Terans. They should really try and promote diversity within the races when they select players for MLG. There are definitely more than enough players of each race deserving of a spot and singling one race out of this program would be tragic. I was really hoping MKP would be selected but if Bomber is in fact going (as he rightfully should be) I fear that 4 Korean Terans is really too much for this exchange program.
Hilarious that people are acting as though Boxer won't do well. Nobody saw his NASL stuff? He's at least as good as the average top 16 seeded player going into MLG.
Anyway, this is pretty cool. Depending on who else GSL sends, MMA has a very good chance at a repeat.
On July 02 2011 13:20 StickNMove wrote: Wait a second, this should make the 2nd and 3rd players invited. It was discussed on Inside the Game by MLG Lee and Mr. Chae that ST_Bomber would be the 1st player invited to MLG Anaheim. I specifically remember the discussion of who would be invited and being excited to see bomber, is this not the case anymore? And if not why leave that information out of this post? It would be a real shame to see them retract their previous statements about allowing bomber to play in MLG. And although I like Slayers_Boxer, I really would like to see them choose at least 1 player from each race instead of sending us 3 or 4 Terans. They should really try and promote diversity within the races when they select players for MLG. There are definitely more than enough players of each race deserving of a spot and singling one race out of this program would be tragic. I was really hoping MKP would be selected but if Bomber is in fact going (as he rightfully should be) I fear that 4 Korean Terans is really too much for this exchange program.
Bomber is still in GSL Code S for July. Presumably, they have two more tentative invitees but cannot announce until they can be confirmed. Since the Code S Finals are the same weekend, it seems likely that the remaining two candidates are in Code S and they have to wait until they are eliminated to confirm. So presumably, Bomber is one but they won't confirm until (if) he is knocked out. If he were to make it to the Code S Finals, obviously he would be unable to attend and a different player would go, so they don't want to make a premature announcement.
this is a dream come true. boxer, the biggest esport icon of all time, stepping on foreign soil. and mma, winner of columbus goes to defend his title. gonna be great!
That reaction that people have when great big and exciting news comes about where they suddenly gasp almost uncontrollably and awfully loud.
well i just did that because boxer is coming to California which roughly translates into boxer may sign something i own. All this all culminating in fanboy spasms
On July 02 2011 13:41 taldarimAltar wrote: haha boxer should quit slayers and join an foreign team, he'll get more exposure now that he's out of code A
yes, boxer should quit his own team...
he is the motha fuckin emperor, he doesnt need exposure
I am so excited to see Boxer, I don't care if he is slumping hes the damned emperor! Hopefully he doesn't get sick this time like he did before DreamHack?
being in australia, i am extremely jealous that i will not be able to do my part at MLG anaheim and cheer on boxer, remind him in person that there are fans who love him and to want him to do well despite douchebag sensationalist reporters
On July 02 2011 03:58 Kraznaya wrote: It's cool that Boxer is being sent and MMA can defend his title, but two terrans on the list already decreases the chances of MKP being sent
Think of it as an increased chance we are gonna see an awesome protoss & zerg. Namely MC & Nestea or maybe DRG?
On July 02 2011 03:58 Kraznaya wrote: It's cool that Boxer is being sent and MMA can defend his title, but two terrans on the list already decreases the chances of MKP being sent
Think of it as an increased chance we are gonna see an awesome protoss & zerg. Namely MC & Nestea or maybe DRG?
Really hope they send DRG.
And this is the perfect chance for Boxer to go smash some nerd skulls and get back his crown!
BRB going on cross-country run from New York to Cali. Also, Boxer 1st place please, get back into Code S that way.
Now that that's out of the way - good players for Gom to send. Certainly both have a following, with one being the emperor, one being his current rising star, and also the defending champion. I'm begging gom though - do not send any more terrans. Of all match-ups that I cannot stand to watch, TvT is the king of them. Anything else, I can enjoy, but TvT is just disgusting.
Of protoss, I'm not sure who to send. Maybe MC returns? (doubt it, why send someone twice when there are many others?) Alicia? (but then we have three slayers team members...) HuK? (just to lead idra to rage quit. And he's been tearing up the foreign tournaments lately.)
If they send Nestea, he's going to dominate, there is no doubt in my mind. No other player is comparably "solid" as Nestea is. I think I would rather see someone who isn't so guaranteed to take it all, maybe DRG, or maybe a smaller name player. TSL.RevivaL (if TSL really wants to build their team up...) Slayers_Min (lol 4 slayers players?) I suppose I can even see them sending it to an unknown, since top places DO give code A qualifications...
Also, does anyone know if nani/thorzain/the FXO guys will be coming back for this?
I sincerely hope the other Koreans that went to Columbus don't come too, otherwise I feel like 8 Koreans into a group of waht....is it 16 seeded players? That would overrun the tournament, especially when they are already all seeded...
Boxer coming to MLG is pretty awesome. The timing, though, has pros and cons. With his injury impacting his performance in games, he's probably not going to be able to put on the show we'd all love to see. On the other hand, getting a good reception from the foreign fans could be just the thing he needs right now because of that, especially in light of the article slamming him for his loss in GSL
Can't wait to see him play, though, regardless of his performance. Go Boxer!
On July 02 2011 16:12 enecateReAP wrote: I sincerely hope the other Koreans that went to Columbus don't come too, otherwise I feel like 8 Koreans into a group of waht....is it 16 seeded players? That would overrun the tournament, especially when they are already all seeded...
Actually, that is what I hope for. But I can't see how you come up with the number 8. I think not even Moon managed to get seeded because Machine still beat him by 10 points, so that makes 5 at most.
I guess that GSL will pick different players (except MMA) for Anaheim, which is fair enough. Nevertheless I would like to see MC again, he is just behaving like a star and in a way, which foreign fans love!
P.S. The idea MC co-casting with Tastetossis for few games is genious! :-)
Personally, I'd rather not see any Code S players. I'd rather see Code B monsters like DongRaeGu, Puma, and Sage have a chance at nabbing that Code S spot.
They're likely going to invite a Korean who's also going to the NASL finals, and maybe cut costs like that. So I'm going to guess Puma and a fan favorite, DRG.
On July 02 2011 17:41 StyLeD wrote: They're likely going to invite a Korean who's also going to the NASL finals, and maybe cut costs like that. So I'm going to guess Puma and a fan favorite, DRG.
On July 02 2011 17:41 StyLeD wrote: They're likely going to invite a Korean who's also going to the NASL finals, and maybe cut costs like that. So I'm going to guess Puma and a fan favorite, DRG.
arent they like three weeks apart?
Oh yeah, that's true..I was going to say that if you're going to go to the NASL finals, doesn't hurt to stay a few more weeks, go to the Verizon LAN tournament to compete for 1k+ USD and then to MLG Anaheim for another ~14k total USD, then go back. But it might interfere with Code A if Puma/DRG/Boxer/MMA get through the qualifiers (or whoever they really invite).
On July 02 2011 17:21 Tech0 wrote: This is gonna be EPIC!
MLG Europe please :-)
I guess that GSL will pick different players (except MMA) for Anaheim, which is fair enough. Nevertheless I would like to see MC again, he is just behaving like a star and in a way, which foreign fans love!
P.S. The idea MC co-casting with Tastetossis for few games is genious! :-)
Mc could just go and play through the open bracket
On July 02 2011 04:00 iNcontroL wrote: I want boxer
in bed???
Seriously amazing!! Tournaments keep getting better and better, MLG already making a nice step in the right direction to make an even better tournament.
havent read the whole thread, but i hope they think about sending some newer talent like DRG and HoseoSage! those two would put on some sick shows, and then we'd get replays *gasp* a guy can dream right???????? ^________^
On July 02 2011 17:21 Tech0 wrote: This is gonna be EPIC!
MLG Europe please :-)
I guess that GSL will pick different players (except MMA) for Anaheim, which is fair enough. Nevertheless I would like to see MC again, he is just behaving like a star and in a way, which foreign fans love!
P.S. The idea MC co-casting with Tastetossis for few games is genious! :-)
Mc could just go and play through the open bracket
ogs will most likely send him anyway or Mc will pay this trip on his own, he's a rich baller after all and he won't have to play in the open bracket because he's seeded afaik.
i think the only way he's not coming is if he's in the code s finals or doesn't feel like traveling again because as it DID tire him after all as we saw @ homestory cup III
But this would mean we MUST have a terran winner. Korean terran players are imba. Unless MMA and Boxer play before the finals, which would be a bit dumb of the organizers.
On July 02 2011 21:56 Shawcross wrote: Invite Nestea and MVP and get MC to cast along with Artosis and it'll be perfect.
MC cast? He speaks broken English I thought
His English isn't best, but compared to the other Koreans it is good. Its very funny to listen him. Its like listening White-RA or TLO ... their accents are adorable. :-) Also I can imagine how epic will be tastetossis + some player like MC, TLO or White-RA. :-)
On July 02 2011 22:33 Nivity wrote: Nice to see boxer go, but he will most likley not make it far, he can't practice much anymore and play there after.
I'll bet you 50$ that Boxer will at least make Top 24 among Anaheim's field of 276 players.
On July 02 2011 22:33 Nivity wrote: Nice to see boxer go, but he will most likley not make it far, he can't practice much anymore and play there after.
I'll bet you 50$ that Boxer will at least make Top 24 among Anaheim's field of 276 players.
Isn't he guaranteed to do that already considering he will be seeded?
On July 02 2011 22:33 Nivity wrote: Nice to see boxer go, but he will most likley not make it far, he can't practice much anymore and play there after.
I'll bet you 50$ that Boxer will at least make Top 24 among Anaheim's field of 276 players.
Isn't he guaranteed to do that already considering he will be seeded?
On July 02 2011 22:33 Nivity wrote: Nice to see boxer go, but he will most likley not make it far, he can't practice much anymore and play there after.
I'll bet you 50$ that Boxer will at least make Top 24 among Anaheim's field of 276 players.
Isn't he guaranteed to do that already considering he will be seeded?
On July 02 2011 22:33 Nivity wrote: Nice to see boxer go, but he will most likley not make it far, he can't practice much anymore and play there after.
I'll bet you 50$ that Boxer will at least make Top 24 among Anaheim's field of 276 players.
Isn't he guaranteed to do that already considering he will be seeded?
I think he`s only guaranteed Top 28 since they are 6 players per pool (+4 from looser`s bracket).
BOXER VS IDRA PLEASE.... 'this many battlecruisers, no grack?'
hmm, looking like we won't get getting a Protoss invite... Boxer, MMA, Bomber and probably DRG, unless they bend the rules a little and send a 5th, though I can't think who it would be... Ace? Puzzle?
Korea is so Terran heavy its going to be hard to imagine them not sending at least three Terrans. I doubt we will see a Protoss - who would it be? Alicia is probably the second best Protoss in Korea (I'm assuming they won't invite MC again) but having three slayers players would seem kind of weird. After that the list of famous Protoss kind of drops off... In terms of results it would be Inca or San (lol). Honestly the best Korean Protosses are still in Code A/B (Puzzle, Hero, Sage) and I don't know if GSL/MLG will necessarily want to send lesser known players.
On July 03 2011 02:38 sickoota wrote: Korea is so Terran heavy its going to be hard to imagine them not sending at least three Terrans. I doubt we will see a Protoss - who would it be? Alicia is probably the second best Protoss in Korea (I'm assuming they won't invite MC again) but having three slayers players would seem kind of weird. After that the list of famous Protoss kind of drops off... In terms of results it would be Inca or San (lol). Honestly the best Korean Protosses are still in Code A/B (Puzzle, Hero, Sage) and I don't know if GSL/MLG will necessarily want to send lesser known players.
On July 02 2011 03:58 Kraznaya wrote: It's cool that Boxer is being sent and MMA can defend his title, but two terrans on the list already decreases the chances of MKP being sent
This
On a different note, if MLG matches my trip to the US this summer I'll take whatever bus will drive me there. HWAITING!
Would like to see 1 zerg and 1 protoss now. As much as I digg MC and how much of a show he puts on, I'd like to see some other toss get a chance instead of the same players over and over.
Alicia would be great but they already have two from SlayerS so that feels kinda meh. I doesn't know that much about Protoss players in Korea so I can't think of anyone else. As Zerg NesTea would be fucking brutal, if not him I would like to see DongRaeGu.
MLG invites should be done as follows: Invite winner back and then invite one for each race. That guarantees some variety. Because of this, I don't want to see Bomber. We already have Boxer and MMA to represent Terrans. Set aside the remaining spots for Zerg and Protoss respectively
I think DongRaeGu will get in but I want July to be invited this time. He was't last time, he fought his way with the help of CSN. This MLG does take place in JULY, so I want to see if the legend holds true.
Finding a toss besides MC is kinda hard, if you give it to Alicia then you have 3/4 spots being SlayerS. Kinda unfair. I want Sage to be in but he may be too new for MLG to notice. Genius could be a potential but if MLG wants to announce soon, its not going to be him cause Genius won't know if hes done with GSL till 2 weeks.
Ahhhhhhhh, a good toss is hard to pinpoint right now in Korea.
bomber is not 100 percent, if he makes it to the gsl finals then he can't go... marine king prime or july has a higher chance of getting invited because they already got eliminated.
On July 03 2011 02:38 sickoota wrote: Korea is so Terran heavy its going to be hard to imagine them not sending at least three Terrans. I doubt we will see a Protoss - who would it be? Alicia is probably the second best Protoss in Korea (I'm assuming they won't invite MC again) but having three slayers players would seem kind of weird. After that the list of famous Protoss kind of drops off... In terms of results it would be Inca or San (lol). Honestly the best Korean Protosses are still in Code A/B (Puzzle, Hero, Sage) and I don't know if GSL/MLG will necessarily want to send lesser known players.
Boxer and MMA are Code A/B.... just saying..
He said "lesser known"...
Anyway, maybe they should send Nestea to represent Zerg. Also, I don't mind if MC is invited.
On July 02 2011 22:33 Nivity wrote: Nice to see boxer go, but he will most likley not make it far, he can't practice much anymore and play there after.
I'll bet you 50$ that Boxer will at least make Top 24 among Anaheim's field of 276 players.
Yea this reminds me of when everyone was like LOL MOON SUCKZZZ and then he went on to beat mostly everyone he faced
they said originally they are waiting for the RO32 to finish before they announce. I imagine thats why we only got 2 announced so far. They want to see who else is eligible. I hope for MKP
Lol, I guess MLG are sure to sell a lot of venue passes to people just wanting to meet and greet with Boxer.
To be fair though, there are other players I would like to see in the seeded spot before him. Not because I dont like him, but because he is in a bad physical state and should take care of his health at this time.
On July 03 2011 02:07 mumming wrote: Two code B players... Nice...
Well if I do remember correctly, MMA did WIN the last MLG >.> He also beat losira, who is a code S player.
Also placed 2nd in the GSL super tournament -_-... Mumming know the player before you pass him as a "code b" player. Just because he's in code B now doesn't mean he's not an amazing player rofl.
On July 04 2011 01:03 TheResidentEvil wrote: they said originally they are waiting for the RO32 to finish before they announce. I imagine thats why we only got 2 announced so far. They want to see who else is eligible. I hope for MKP
I think the player who fell on 3rd place in the group match is more possible to be sent. The 4th (like MKP ) might need to prepare for their up/down matches.
On July 03 2011 02:38 sickoota wrote: Korea is so Terran heavy its going to be hard to imagine them not sending at least three Terrans. I doubt we will see a Protoss - who would it be? Alicia is probably the second best Protoss in Korea (I'm assuming they won't invite MC again) but having three slayers players would seem kind of weird. After that the list of famous Protoss kind of drops off... In terms of results it would be Inca or San (lol). Honestly the best Korean Protosses are still in Code A/B (Puzzle, Hero, Sage) and I don't know if GSL/MLG will necessarily want to send lesser known players.
Boxer and MMA are Code A/B.... just saying..
He said "lesser known"...
Anyway, maybe they should send Nestea to represent Zerg. Also, I don't mind if MC is invited.
Yeah and exactly what was MMA well known for before he came to MLG? The Team League and losing in the code A.
Edit: And Moon is only known for owning white dudes. Anyway, what I mean is that they should just send whoever they want and they'll probably end up in top 5 regardless.
On July 03 2011 02:38 sickoota wrote: Korea is so Terran heavy its going to be hard to imagine them not sending at least three Terrans. I doubt we will see a Protoss - who would it be? Alicia is probably the second best Protoss in Korea (I'm assuming they won't invite MC again) but having three slayers players would seem kind of weird. After that the list of famous Protoss kind of drops off... In terms of results it would be Inca or San (lol). Honestly the best Korean Protosses are still in Code A/B (Puzzle, Hero, Sage) and I don't know if GSL/MLG will necessarily want to send lesser known players.
Boxer and MMA are Code A/B.... just saying..
He said "lesser known"...
Anyway, maybe they should send Nestea to represent Zerg. Also, I don't mind if MC is invited.
Yeah and exactly what was MMA well known for before he came to MLG? The Team League and losing in the code A.
Edit: And Moon is only known for owning white dudes. Anyway, what I mean is that they should just send whoever they want and they'll probably end up in top 5 regardless.
MMA was the ace of slayers, beating MC, MVP and getting 3 kills against ST seems pretty impressive. he lost in code a against bomber who crushed mvp in the finals.
So sad that Losira and MC don't want to participate on their own money. Kind of understandable, though. They have to place like top 4 just for the trip to become economically viable and they miss out tons of training during that. :-(
They should invite a good Korean Zerg, so that MMA can win another great TvZ finals. People will probalby tear the building appart in excitement!
On the other hand, I think that I am not the only one who secretly hopes that The Emperor finally wins something big. Well, there is still NASL, but another possibility is great.
Hi, I am an uknown TLer and I approve this choice of players!
Wait... So including the Koreans that earned seeds at Columbus they're chucking in 3 more?? That's weird. Or are the first 4 guys (other than MMA) not coming back?
God I hope MKP comes. MKP and BoxeR at MLG would make me buy a plane ticket to America for it.
This is AWESOME!! I hope Nestea is willing to go/gets invited. I really want to see him absolutely rip through the competition at MLG. Even if he didn't, it'd be awesome to see some foreigners go toe-to-toe with him.
On July 05 2011 01:23 lolsixtynine wrote: This is AWESOME!! I hope Nestea is willing to go/gets invited. I really want to see him absolutely rip through the competition at MLG. Even if he didn't, it'd be awesome to see some foreigners go toe-to-toe with him.
Can't wait to see who the other invites are! :D
Nestea will only go if he loses to Ensnare next round of GSL. Which is not likely.
On July 05 2011 01:23 lolsixtynine wrote: This is AWESOME!! I hope Nestea is willing to go/gets invited. I really want to see him absolutely rip through the competition at MLG. Even if he didn't, it'd be awesome to see some foreigners go toe-to-toe with him.
Can't wait to see who the other invites are! :D
Nestea has been in quite a few foreign tourneys, but he has done extremely poorly though.
Boxer is not going to make it far. MMA is beatable with the likes of Naniwa, Huk and Idra there, especially since MMA is awful TvP.
I wonder if the other 2 Koreans GSL sends will be top tier players or not. That will likely determine if a Korean wins MLG again or not, since I really don't think Boxer or MMA will take this MLG.
Yeh Boxer!! I will be rooting for him all the way!! Thank you GSL and MLG for giving me these awesome chills all over my body. Btw. great that MMA can defend his title.
I have a feeling they will start to only send code A/B Koreans to battle for that code S spot, which i dont mind at all considering the majority of talent in those leagues. Im hoping for DRG <3
On July 05 2011 05:43 Zzoram wrote: Boxer is not going to make it far. MMA is beatable with the likes of Naniwa, Huk and Idra there, especially since MMA is awful TvP.
I wonder if the other 2 Koreans GSL sends will be top tier players or not. That will likely determine if a Korean wins MLG again or not, since I really don't think Boxer or MMA will take this MLG.
No, the koreans are going to tear through the foreigners and make it to the finals.
Well that spoils the finals a little bit. Its kinda like mixing the university and pro leagues of pro sports... obviously the pro league players will outperform the university level players with the exception of players that practice at the level of the pro players or those with natural talent. There is a reason GSL has different code brackets and MLG doesn't. If you mixing players from these leagues and ignore this distinction you create an unfair advantage for the high bracket GSL players.
On July 05 2011 05:43 Zzoram wrote: Boxer is not going to make it far. MMA is beatable with the likes of Naniwa, Huk and Idra there, especially since MMA is awful TvP.
I wonder if the other 2 Koreans GSL sends will be top tier players or not. That will likely determine if a Korean wins MLG again or not, since I really don't think Boxer or MMA will take this MLG.
Ya, Boxer gets crushed in foreign tournaments like the NASL. Your point is very well grounded and informed sir!
MMA is surely AWFUL at TvP seeing as he won the last MLG. Another piece of golden insight from you sir!
On July 05 2011 05:43 Zzoram wrote: Boxer is not going to make it far. MMA is beatable with the likes of Naniwa, Huk and Idra there, especially since MMA is awful TvP.
I wonder if the other 2 Koreans GSL sends will be top tier players or not. That will likely determine if a Korean wins MLG again or not, since I really don't think Boxer or MMA will take this MLG.
Ya, Boxer gets crushed in foreign tournaments like the NASL. Your point is very well grounded and informed sir!
MMA is surely AWFUL at TvP seeing as he won the last MLG. Another piece of golden insight from you sir!
The nasl thing is true, but MMA pretty much dodged tvp entirely last mlg
Boxer going is awesome, think he'll do fine. The fact that he's playing means that the streaming numbers, especially, from Korea, are going to be through the roof, which is great news for MLG.
WOW this MLG-GSL cooperation, sending players from one tournament to the other after good results, is so awesome! It makes such interesting line-ups. <3
On July 05 2011 05:43 Zzoram wrote: Boxer is not going to make it far. MMA is beatable with the likes of Naniwa, Huk and Idra there, especially since MMA is awful TvP.
I wonder if the other 2 Koreans GSL sends will be top tier players or not. That will likely determine if a Korean wins MLG again or not, since I really don't think Boxer or MMA will take this MLG.
Ya, Boxer gets crushed in foreign tournaments like the NASL. Your point is very well grounded and informed sir!
MMA is surely AWFUL at TvP seeing as he won the last MLG. Another piece of golden insight from you sir!
The nasl thing is true, but MMA pretty much dodged tvp entirely last mlg
Losira is awful at ZvT in Korea. Did that prevent him from rolfstomping his non-korean Terran opponents at MLG?
On July 05 2011 05:43 Zzoram wrote: Boxer is not going to make it far. MMA is beatable with the likes of Naniwa, Huk and Idra there, especially since MMA is awful TvP.
I wonder if the other 2 Koreans GSL sends will be top tier players or not. That will likely determine if a Korean wins MLG again or not, since I really don't think Boxer or MMA will take this MLG.
Ya, Boxer gets crushed in foreign tournaments like the NASL. Your point is very well grounded and informed sir!
MMA is surely AWFUL at TvP seeing as he won the last MLG. Another piece of golden insight from you sir!
The nasl thing is true, but MMA pretty much dodged tvp entirely last mlg
Losira is awful at ZvT in Korea. Did that prevent him from rolfstomping his non-korean Terran opponents at MLG?
In most cases Korean Terrans are just plain better than their non Korean counterparts. However, besides MC, Korean protoss haven't had the best results compared to non korean protoss.
On July 06 2011 23:59 Spacekyod wrote: Have they announced that they're sending DRG yet?
Wait, is he confirmed, or is this still speculation?
It's not confirmed, they haven't announced anything about DRG yet.
Mr.Chae has been teasing about sending DRG to Anaheim.
I think the last 2 invites will be 2 of these 3. MKP, Bomber, and DRG.
Going to be hard when MKP has up and down matches and Bomber has advanced to ro16. DRG MVP are done with their gsl season so they could possibly be coming :D
They may be waiting because they have choice A and choice B and choice A is still in the GSL, and if he makes it to the finals then he won't be able to make it to MLG.
On July 08 2011 10:30 namedplayer wrote: MKP please!
MKP is slumping for atleast 2-3 months now, why would he deserve to even go?
DRG, NaDa or Even MVPGenius deserves it more.
I don't know how you define 'slumping' but he reached Ro4 of the Super tournament and won the latest FXO Invitational. Yeah he hasn't performed very well in Code S lately but he's definitely not slumping.
On July 08 2011 10:30 namedplayer wrote: MKP please!
MKP is slumping for atleast 2-3 months now, why would he deserve to even go?
DRG, NaDa or Even MVPGenius deserves it more.
Making top 4 in the super tourney and being 1 win away from finals is considered slumping for 2-3 months? o.O
Don't forget qualifying for NASL by beating Min, Curious, Alicia, and Polt...
as well as Champions Trophy Champion
And winning FXOpen. The korean slumping myth is just a by product of just the few amount of games you see them play.
Mkp lost 2 best of 1s for a total of 2 games and because of that's he's gone for a month. Imagine if someone like naniwa or idra lost 2 games in a month cause that's all you saw of them and people said they were slumping. Kind of a ridiculous thing to say given the sample size, but because foreigners have way more tournies to play in they have more opportunity to show their games so no one would be silly enough to say someone is in a slump cause they lost 2 games.
Even if you take 2 r32 gsl exits, that's still only 4 games lost in 2 months. People lose more than 4 games just in group stage in 1 day at like a mlg or dreamhack and no one bats an eye cause it's just a few losses in 1 day.
I really want DRG to go. I could see sage or puzzle going, but for Sage definitely it's been a one time thing, they need to prove more consistency, whereas DRG has had 2 3-kills, won the LG cinema tourney, and did well in previous teamleagues.
I predict DRG and Sage. Two players not in Code A that have proven they are awesome. A Protoss and a Zerg. This is their chance to get possibly get into Code S where they pretty much deserve.
If it's DRG, we should ALL be afraid. In MLG conditions (little preparation, lots of matches) DRG may be un killable. I certainly don't see him dropping a game to a Terran all weekend.
Holy damn. If DRG/MKP/MMA/Boxer goes to MLG it will be insane LOL. but MKP still has up and down matches and idk if it will conflict with MLG schedule lol. But DRG/Boxer/MMA im so drooling over that right now LOL! DRG idk if anyone can stop him right now >.>
DRG vs MMA bo7 extended series would be insane!!!!!
Would love to see PuMa again, but 3 terrans is a no-go. It should be 1 protoss and 1 zerg and preferably somebody who is not in the up-and-down matches or Code S, since they will fight for a Code S spot. DRG would definitely be the most deserving Zerg. For protoss... hard to decide... definitnely not Alicia, he is in Code S already.
EPT
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