• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 02:29
CET 08:29
KST 16:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win1BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced14[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 Proleague Discontinued; SKT, KT, SGK, CJ disband Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced Information Request Regarding Chinese Ladder SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest RSL Revival: Season 3 Tenacious Turtle Tussle [Alpha Pro Series] Nice vs Cure
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation
Brood War
General
Which season is the best in ASL? [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ FlaSh's Valkyrie Copium BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? The Perfect Game
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Esports Earnings: Bigger Pri…
TrAiDoS
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1543 users

The Official Live On Three Thread - Page 95

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 93 94 95 96 97 157 Next
zawk9
Profile Joined March 2011
United States427 Posts
May 24 2012 05:16 GMT
#1881
On May 24 2012 14:12 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 14:04 magnaflow wrote:
On May 24 2012 13:36 windsupernova wrote:
On May 24 2012 11:36 magnaflow wrote:
God, this community is going to be the death of itself, I say another year at the most and SC2 will be the same way it was in BW


Fucking disgusting how terrible this community is


96,557 subbed to the starcraft reddit,16146 stream viewers on TL, judges the whole community based on a few posts.

Terribly community indeed >_>



A few posts? Do you not visit this site or reddit often? Everyone harps on how bad the Battle Net forums are, these aren't much better, if at all


You do realize most of the time its a vocal minority. Most of the fans can't really be arsed to be active on the forums >_>


I'd like to see some proof its a vocal minority. Certainly those posting are a minority (I wouldn't even add the qualifier "most of the time" as you do), but for all we know most people who don't post could be reading and generally agree with the negativity.
there's a bug in the new patch where the other player keeps killing all my dudes.. please nerf this
dnld12
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States324 Posts
May 24 2012 05:34 GMT
#1882
Ok, Please let me just state. You do not know anything about Day9, Idra, Naniwa, Any other contreversial figure unless you've talked, met and had a very long conversation over a long period of time. Other than that you are all gossiping like little school girls on some big name celebrity. You are taking "OH MY GOD HE IS MAKING MONEY" as a sex scandal in a magazine.
As we grow as a community this will obviously happen. People will hate the changes or like em or be neutral. What really matters is that we all play nice. Now people can rage at forums, type angrily on their keyboards, or not. Either get educated, learn, be patient, inquisitive, and so on.
But honestly, we know nothing about them. And everything everyone says on this forum is a guess, an assumption, an opinion. Therefore:

GROW UP

We are a Starcraft 2 Community. The community said to be MATURE. How is this mature? Squabbling about how people are making money. Lost their passion. Arguing about who said what. Why some people have more money than others.

The world isn't fair people. I've worked at place where my co-workers we're renting room apartments and living off cup of noodles. I have had classmates who came from pretty well off families. Some of them were arses. Some of them were great. But you just have to accept you cannot stereotype ANYONE, based off speculation. I KNOW Day9 BUT I do not know Sean Plott.

We do not know what goes on in his head. We do not know how much money he makes. It is not his job to inform us. He cannot bend to our every desire. We need to Grow Up. Accept what he gives us.

AND BE GRATEFUL

Look at what Teamliquid gives us. A forum, constant updates, streams, access, coverage. We should be PRAISING the GOOD in our community rather than just Shitting on it. I mean come on, We already have enough crap outside the world, why Cant we just for once have all around happiness for everyone in the community.

Is it really too hard to ask to just STOP flaming, STOP hating and just learn to accept and give critique.

Can we stop calling people fake, washed up, rager, hater, troller, etc. and Just bond together as a community.

If its really that difficult, how are we mature?

How are we going to be able to build an Industry around people who are just angry about making money, acting, etc.

Passion goes on and off. People go on and off. But what remains is the community. We are what makes up Starcraft 2 and E-sports in general. If we really want to make a better e-sports, shoudlnt we look at ourselves to improve it?

Thanks for listening :D
TlDR: Lets all get along and stop the hate
When life gives you Stalkers, Get blink.
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
May 24 2012 05:37 GMT
#1883
On May 24 2012 14:16 zawk9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 14:12 windsupernova wrote:
On May 24 2012 14:04 magnaflow wrote:
On May 24 2012 13:36 windsupernova wrote:
On May 24 2012 11:36 magnaflow wrote:
God, this community is going to be the death of itself, I say another year at the most and SC2 will be the same way it was in BW


Fucking disgusting how terrible this community is


96,557 subbed to the starcraft reddit,16146 stream viewers on TL, judges the whole community based on a few posts.

Terribly community indeed >_>



A few posts? Do you not visit this site or reddit often? Everyone harps on how bad the Battle Net forums are, these aren't much better, if at all


You do realize most of the time its a vocal minority. Most of the fans can't really be arsed to be active on the forums >_>


I'd like to see some proof its a vocal minority. Certainly those posting are a minority (I wouldn't even add the qualifier "most of the time" as you do), but for all we know most people who don't post could be reading and generally agree with the negativity.


The problem is that most of us readers who recognize the bitching and whining as stupidity also realize the futility of trying to respond to it, it just baits more trolls and haters while wasting your time and dragging yourself into their lowly mud.
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
r4pture
Profile Joined May 2011
United States397 Posts
May 24 2012 07:10 GMT
#1884
I missed it. VOD link? Not into the mp3, looking for a full VOD.
http://teamfortress.tv - For your TF2 streaming and discussion needs!
Torra
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway469 Posts
May 24 2012 07:41 GMT
#1885
On May 24 2012 16:10 r4pture wrote:
I missed it. VOD link? Not into the mp3, looking for a full VOD.

http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/319159653
Fabozi
Profile Joined March 2011
Slovakia336 Posts
May 24 2012 11:06 GMT
#1886
The mp3
http://soundcloud.com/mat-fabo/live-on-three-e117
eNIKa
Profile Joined April 2011
Poland29 Posts
May 24 2012 11:32 GMT
#1887
Big THX for mp3. Cheers!
Frumsan
Profile Joined September 2008
Sweden117 Posts
May 24 2012 11:59 GMT
#1888
On May 24 2012 20:06 Fabozi wrote:
The mp3
http://soundcloud.com/mat-fabo/live-on-three-e117


Thank you soooooooo much, Fabozi! :D
"The best counter to anything in Starcraft is to go fuckin' kill him." - Day[9]
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 13:04:38
May 24 2012 13:04 GMT
#1889
On May 24 2012 13:35 IMNasty wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

idra gives his opinion on day9 (again):



starts at 47:15

Would be nice if he actually said anything. On Naniwa he is rather specific, on Day[9] he says some vague allusions and that is it. So basically he says nothing.
Escape
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada306 Posts
May 24 2012 13:42 GMT
#1890
On May 24 2012 20:06 Fabozi wrote:
The mp3
http://soundcloud.com/mat-fabo/live-on-three-e117


Thank you!
Okyn
Profile Joined June 2011
Belgium18 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 15:22:48
May 24 2012 15:19 GMT
#1891
SirScoots says 2GD went on a tirade, only thing 2GD said was: "Day9 has done allot for esports...and himself".
Seems more like a joke towards Day9 than a tirade...

anyways Scoots is a tard and I still don't know why people are going mental about this and blowing it up, but everyone sure loves some drama.

User was warned for this post
www.rtstudios.be
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
May 24 2012 15:22 GMT
#1892
On May 25 2012 00:19 Okyn wrote:
SirScoots says 2GD went on a tirade, only thing 2GD said was: "Day9 has done allot for esports...and himself".
Seems more like a joke towards Day9 than a tirade...

anyways Scoots is a tard and I still don't know why people are going mental about this and blowing it up, but everyone sure loves some drama.


The statement from 2GD is interesting since the same thing can be applied to 2GD himself. Is that a bad thing for either of them? Nope.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
May 24 2012 15:30 GMT
#1893
On May 25 2012 00:22 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 00:19 Okyn wrote:
SirScoots says 2GD went on a tirade, only thing 2GD said was: "Day9 has done allot for esports...and himself".
Seems more like a joke towards Day9 than a tirade...

anyways Scoots is a tard and I still don't know why people are going mental about this and blowing it up, but everyone sure loves some drama.


The statement from 2GD is interesting since the same thing can be applied to 2GD himself. Is that a bad thing for either of them? Nope.


To give James the benefit of the doubt, he ought to know that. It might be just another instance of James being James and reddit happily jumping unto it.
Okyn
Profile Joined June 2011
Belgium18 Posts
May 24 2012 15:36 GMT
#1894
On May 25 2012 00:22 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2012 00:19 Okyn wrote:
SirScoots says 2GD went on a tirade, only thing 2GD said was: "Day9 has done allot for esports...and himself".
Seems more like a joke towards Day9 than a tirade...

anyways Scoots is a tard and I still don't know why people are going mental about this and blowing it up, but everyone sure loves some drama.


The statement from 2GD is interesting since the same thing can be applied to 2GD himself. Is that a bad thing for either of them? Nope.


If someone would say the same thing about 2GD, I wouldn't care neither but the fact remains that the community loves to make drama and anyone with a bit of brain knows that any personality in esports like Day9, 2DG and even you Totalbiscuit has to work a shitload to make all this content that you do every day of the week.

Tip of the day: Use your own brain to make your own conclusion and don't go mental.
www.rtstudios.be
Vega62a
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
946 Posts
May 25 2012 16:16 GMT
#1895
Aeroplaneoverthesea, you're literally the most absurd person I've encountered all day. There are all these facts available to you, and you bothered to seek out precisely none of them. Let's just go over some of the more ridiclous things you've said here.

He adds absolutely nothing to any discussion on any shows he attends (not the he really does them anymore unless he has a product to sell (i.e the latest Red Bull foray into Esports or the After Hours Gaming League, which is terrible by the way, but Day9 doesn't care because he's making money from it) other than to be 100% positive about everything and anything because he wouldn't want to ruin his public image by having an opinion on something.


So uh, I don't know if you knew this, but Day[9] does this show Sunday through Thursday, it's called the Day[9] Daily. In it, he analyzes professional replays, and uses his extensive knowledge of Starcraft 2 to dissect the game and use it as a teaching experience. How can you sit there and imply with a straight face that Day[9] doesn't care about the scene, or the game, or doesn't contribute, when he still puts on this show, and it's still immensely useful? Like, I don't know where you got the notion that the daily was stale, but it helps a lot of people, myself included, learn more about the game. It's not like the whole daily is his face drinking a can of Red Bull. If you watch it with a pen and paper, you DO learn something.

You do understand that the AHGL is a charity event, don't you? And that he actually SPENDS money on it? Actually, here's the liquipedia article on it, maybe it will explain it better than I can:

The After Hours Gaming League (AHGL) is a team league that puts leading technology companies in competition at StarCraft 2 for both fun and a $5,000 grand prize donation by Day[9]TV to the winner's charity of choice.


In Sc2 his number one priority is taking pay cheques from big business to make Sc2 or any general gaming related content (he's not really bothered what they want from him anymore provided esports dollars are changing hands).


I'm also curious as to why you think you know a person's motivations. If you're psychic, you should probably tell us now. The world needs your power.


Day9/the panel completely ignoring the distinction between getting into esports for the money (which clearly Day9 didn't) and becoming a corporate shill once the money comes in (which imo Day9 has become).


Which part of being a "corporate shill" is a bad thing for an industry that needs sponsorship dollars to expand? Is it the corporate part? Where do you think the money is going to come from? Donations? Small businesses? Finding pennies on the street?

Please, explain to me how we are going to grow esports without corporate connections.


Exceptions to this include Artosis, Wolf, DjWheat, Khaldor and CatzPyjamas who regardless of their casting or playing ability definitely follow the scene as much as they can and watch everything because they love the game.


I don't know if you knew this, but there is a limited amount of time in each day. I know you think that somebody who "really loved the scene" would just "watch everything even if they were really busy," but if you don't sleep enough every night, and don't get enough time to yourself to do things that are not related to your job, you burn out. I don't know if you know what real burnout feels like, but it prevents you from, er, working. Day[9] frequently mentions that he is absurdly busy (which is unsurprising as he has his hands in so many things). He needs time to rest, too.
Content of my posts reflects only my personal opinions, and not those of any employer or subsidiary
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
May 25 2012 17:16 GMT
#1896
On May 24 2012 14:34 dnld12 wrote:
Ok, Please let me just state. You do not know anything about Day9, Idra, Naniwa, Any other contreversial figure unless you've talked, met and had a very long conversation over a long period of time. Other than that you are all gossiping like little school girls on some big name celebrity. You are taking "OH MY GOD HE IS MAKING MONEY" as a sex scandal in a magazine.
As we grow as a community this will obviously happen. People will hate the changes or like em or be neutral. What really matters is that we all play nice. Now people can rage at forums, type angrily on their keyboards, or not. Either get educated, learn, be patient, inquisitive, and so on.
But honestly, we know nothing about them. And everything everyone says on this forum is a guess, an assumption, an opinion. Therefore:

GROW UP

We are a Starcraft 2 Community. The community said to be MATURE. How is this mature? Squabbling about how people are making money. Lost their passion. Arguing about who said what. Why some people have more money than others.

The world isn't fair people. I've worked at place where my co-workers we're renting room apartments and living off cup of noodles. I have had classmates who came from pretty well off families. Some of them were arses. Some of them were great. But you just have to accept you cannot stereotype ANYONE, based off speculation. I KNOW Day9 BUT I do not know Sean Plott.

We do not know what goes on in his head. We do not know how much money he makes. It is not his job to inform us. He cannot bend to our every desire. We need to Grow Up. Accept what he gives us.

AND BE GRATEFUL

Look at what Teamliquid gives us. A forum, constant updates, streams, access, coverage. We should be PRAISING the GOOD in our community rather than just Shitting on it. I mean come on, We already have enough crap outside the world, why Cant we just for once have all around happiness for everyone in the community.

Is it really too hard to ask to just STOP flaming, STOP hating and just learn to accept and give critique.

Can we stop calling people fake, washed up, rager, hater, troller, etc. and Just bond together as a community.

If its really that difficult, how are we mature?

How are we going to be able to build an Industry around people who are just angry about making money, acting, etc.

Passion goes on and off. People go on and off. But what remains is the community. We are what makes up Starcraft 2 and E-sports in general. If we really want to make a better e-sports, shoudlnt we look at ourselves to improve it?

Thanks for listening :D
TlDR: Lets all get along and stop the hate


It comforts me that there actually mature and rational people like you around. Keep posting, who knows, someday people might grow up/calm down and see your behavior and view points as an example.
"Right on" - Morrow
ZergX
Profile Joined October 2010
France436 Posts
May 30 2012 17:21 GMT
#1897
On May 24 2012 20:06 Fabozi wrote:
The mp3
http://soundcloud.com/mat-fabo/live-on-three-e117

.
♥♥ Thx
Nestea fightingg ! DRG fightingggg !! Sen fightinggg ! July fighting ! SoO fighting !
Felnarion
Profile Joined December 2011
442 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 17:43:23
May 30 2012 17:42 GMT
#1898
This whole Day9 hate thing is such an embarrassment.

What, no one has said a racial slur for a bit, so we have to cannibalize someone to feed the machine?

Community just wants personalities. It wants to suck the life out of them, then spit them out. Day9 makes questionable decision: !!!!!!! News! People make questionable decisions. Get over it. He's done so much, Idra points out, he's done so much that he didn't want to talk about it. We should, as mature people, be able to forgive a personality for a bad decision when they've done so much for us. His payment or non-payment is a non-issue. Personally, I love computers, I'm in IT....But I wouldn't be here if I weren't being paid, we all have to eat.

Stop trying to be cool by harping on problems with the relatively good personalities in the community. You're just going to make them go away.
Slasher
Profile Joined September 2007
United States1095 Posts
May 30 2012 23:33 GMT
#1899
We be live now!
OzVelas
Profile Joined September 2011
Bulgaria516 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 23:51:08
May 30 2012 23:44 GMT
#1900
For ur info Matt Dallon said in itw that oxent will pay the cash prizes for 2011 as soon as possible, it was on the deal for oxent to buy eswc
Prev 1 93 94 95 96 97 157 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 31m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 152
ProTech77
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 579
Hyuk 477
BeSt 337
Tasteless 285
Stork 281
Shuttle 239
actioN 168
Soma 162
Leta 86
sorry 75
[ Show more ]
ZergMaN 55
Dewaltoss 34
Backho 27
Aegong 26
Movie 21
ajuk12(nOOB) 16
Noble 16
Bale 13
yabsab 10
zelot 10
ivOry 10
Shine 9
Icarus 6
SilentControl 4
Dota 2
monkeys_forever1562
XaKoH 493
NeuroSwarm88
XcaliburYe86
League of Legends
JimRising 594
C9.Mang0314
Other Games
summit1g12308
WinterStarcraft590
Mew2King94
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick902
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 65
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 10
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1739
• Lourlo1011
• Stunt681
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
4h 31m
StarCraft2.fi
9h 31m
PiGosaur Monday
17h 31m
Wardi Open
1d 4h
StarCraft2.fi
1d 9h
Replay Cast
1d 16h
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
[ Show More ]
SC Evo League
4 days
BSL 21
4 days
Sziky vs OyAji
Gypsy vs eOnzErG
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
BSL 21
5 days
Bonyth vs StRyKeR
Tarson vs Dandy
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
StarCraft2.fi
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-28
RSL Revival: Season 3
Light HT

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
Acropolis #4 - TS3
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
Kuram Kup
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.