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Naniwa, Thorzain to Korea - Page 37

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00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
June 16 2011 03:39 GMT
#721
On June 16 2011 00:46 Fatekeeper wrote:
Code a is like terran only... and thorzain is really good in TvT so i think he can do very well.
I dont know how good naniwas PvT is, but the Protoss player in GSL struggle recently versus terran.

Thorzain is good. But TvT is considered his weakest matchup. He even stated it himself.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/detailed-elo
Ventil
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden414 Posts
June 16 2011 20:25 GMT
#722
More vikings heading over to Korea! Norse invasion!
This is awesome.
Twitter: @VeNtiLSC
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
June 16 2011 20:28 GMT
#723
On June 16 2011 12:39 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 00:46 Fatekeeper wrote:
Code a is like terran only... and thorzain is really good in TvT so i think he can do very well.
I dont know how good naniwas PvT is, but the Protoss player in GSL struggle recently versus terran.

Thorzain is good. But TvT is considered his weakest matchup. He even stated it himself.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/detailed-elo


Thorzain has been great in TvT ever since he started practice it for Kas in TSL. His weakest MU now is TvZ.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 16 2011 20:51 GMT
#724
T-Zain's been pretty good at TvT recently. He beat Kas, and 4-0 Select at MLG. But to be honest, he's probably gonna have real trouble against the Korean Terrans, they're in a class of their own.
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Major
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Mexico539 Posts
June 16 2011 20:57 GMT
#725
On June 17 2011 05:28 Eury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 12:39 00Visor wrote:
On June 16 2011 00:46 Fatekeeper wrote:
Code a is like terran only... and thorzain is really good in TvT so i think he can do very well.
I dont know how good naniwas PvT is, but the Protoss player in GSL struggle recently versus terran.

Thorzain is good. But TvT is considered his weakest matchup. He even stated it himself.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/detailed-elo


Thorzain has been great in TvT ever since he started practice it for Kas in TSL. His weakest MU now is TvZ.


thorzain tvt is good but its far from great
Progamer
Strike_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands704 Posts
June 16 2011 20:58 GMT
#726
Omg good luck to all!
RaE21
Profile Joined September 2010
United States260 Posts
June 16 2011 20:58 GMT
#727
Thorzain fighting!
CPTBadAss
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States594 Posts
June 16 2011 20:59 GMT
#728
i really can't wait to see naniwa and thorzain tear up korea. i think it's really gonna show ppl how western e-sports is just as competitive as korea
I'll keep on struggling, 'cause that's the measure of a man | "That was the plan: To give him some hope, and then crush him" -Stephano
Skank
Profile Joined October 2010
United States329 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 21:01:41
June 16 2011 21:00 GMT
#729
On June 16 2011 12:39 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 00:46 Fatekeeper wrote:
Code a is like terran only... and thorzain is really good in TvT so i think he can do very well.
I dont know how good naniwas PvT is, but the Protoss player in GSL struggle recently versus terran.

Thorzain is good. But TvT is considered his weakest matchup. He even stated it himself.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/detailed-elo


Naniwa's PvT record before the TSL final was a 92% win ratio, and I believe it's still his statistically best match-up. I don't think he'll have too much trouble.

EDIT: Confirmed, it is his best match-up statistically.
"To be honest, to play protoss is ridiculously simple" -NesTea
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
June 17 2011 00:48 GMT
#730
On June 17 2011 05:25 Obbeskrutt wrote:
More vikings heading over to Korea! Norse invasion!
This is awesome.



You are a hero among men.
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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
June 17 2011 01:17 GMT
#731
On June 17 2011 06:00 Skank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 12:39 00Visor wrote:
On June 16 2011 00:46 Fatekeeper wrote:
Code a is like terran only... and thorzain is really good in TvT so i think he can do very well.
I dont know how good naniwas PvT is, but the Protoss player in GSL struggle recently versus terran.

Thorzain is good. But TvT is considered his weakest matchup. He even stated it himself.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/detailed-elo


Naniwa's PvT record before the TSL final was a 92% win ratio, and I believe it's still his statistically best match-up. I don't think he'll have too much trouble.

EDIT: Confirmed, it is his best match-up statistically.


He said Thorzain, not Naniwa. :p
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Bogeyman
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden307 Posts
June 18 2011 02:14 GMT
#732
Three Swedes in Code A!? Let's hope they all advance to code S immediately.

Seriously though, as much as I think they're all awesome I don't expect them to tear Code A apart.
Thorzain hasn't been dedicated to sc2 for THAT long, and sure he's awesome despite that, but he still needs more time before he has a chance to dominate in GSL.
Naniwa seems to be unstoppable when he's on a roll, but he's not good enough to continually dominate every player in GSL like he did when he won MLG. So the question is if his confidence is good enough to play solid every game even when feeling mortal. If so, he's got a chance to go far in Code S, even win if he adjusts well to korean play and his own living situation over there.
And of course Jinro who is already over there, I don't really know but I think maybe what MC said about Jinro needing to control his anger is what's been troubling him. Maybe if he sorts that out he will stop making silly mistakes and such.

Also, it will be really cool to see Naniwa and Thorzain participate in the GSTL with WeMadeFox. I hope they do well.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
June 18 2011 02:17 GMT
#733
Did they ever announce the third Code A participant?
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Dragonmaster26
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia311 Posts
June 18 2011 06:42 GMT
#734
Is Thorzain going to participate in the GSTL? I saw a thread earlier saying he wasn't but it seems to be deleted so I'm thinking maybe it was false?
Nexic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States729 Posts
June 18 2011 06:45 GMT
#735
On June 18 2011 15:42 Dragonmaster26 wrote:
Is Thorzain going to participate in the GSTL? I saw a thread earlier saying he wasn't but it seems to be deleted so I'm thinking maybe it was false?
He is now. Apparently MLG/GOM announced he would play in it without asking him or his team, but they worked something out and now he will play.
unnar
Profile Joined April 2011
Iceland211 Posts
June 18 2011 23:41 GMT
#736
Who is the third player?
Antylamon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1981 Posts
June 18 2011 23:53 GMT
#737
On June 17 2011 05:51 MCDayC wrote:
T-Zain's been pretty good at TvT recently. He beat Kas, and 4-0 Select at MLG. But to be honest, he's probably gonna have real trouble against the Korean Terrans, they're in a class of their own.

Select is Korean
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8302 Posts
June 19 2011 00:30 GMT
#738
On June 15 2011 23:40 Mentor wrote:
I'm actually more interested in the GSTL appearance. Moon, Lyn, Thorzain, Naniwa and ???
That is a weird, yet awesome mix.


They should get Grubby so they can be the official TeamWC3 lol
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
DirtYLOu
Profile Joined May 2010
575 Posts
June 19 2011 18:46 GMT
#739
On June 16 2011 12:39 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 00:46 Fatekeeper wrote:
Code a is like terran only... and thorzain is really good in TvT so i think he can do very well.
I dont know how good naniwas PvT is, but the Protoss player in GSL struggle recently versus terran.

Thorzain is good. But TvT is considered his weakest matchup. He even stated it himself.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/detailed-elo


From ELO statistics we can see that his TvT is the strongest MU lol.
http://sc2ranks.com/c/9051/slayersteam/ <-- SlayerS players in Grandmaster !
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
June 19 2011 18:51 GMT
#740
On June 19 2011 09:30 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 23:40 Mentor wrote:
I'm actually more interested in the GSTL appearance. Moon, Lyn, Thorzain, Naniwa and ???
That is a weird, yet awesome mix.


They should get Grubby so they can be the official TeamWC3 lol


Or Kiwikaki.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
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