I am not denying the fact that not picking up Slush and Kiwi is a big deal but one thing you have to understand is that ROOT has alot of upcoming and unharnessed players. Destiny, although at this point is WAY overrated, could potentially be a top player once he matures more and keeps playing high level players which CoL has. CatZ and Drewbie are two players that have very unique styles but lack mechanics, which can always be improved with hard work. And Minigun has come SO far since ROOT first signed him. They also had ROOT Kitty/Princess who looked to be a Terran prodigy, its a shame they lost him because he too had so much potential. Its a risk but i think CoL will pay off by at least one of the upcoming players.

StanzA

Canada478 Posts

June 13 2011 04:23 GMT

#983

Really, really bummed to see ROOT go. I hope you guys can still maintain your awesome team spirit and personality with Complexity, glhf.

Volume

United States104 Posts

June 13 2011 04:23 GMT

#984

Where. Will. KiWi. Go?????????

Mallard86

186 Posts

June 13 2011 04:26 GMT

#985

Destiny, although at this point is WAY overrated, could potentially be a top player once he matures more and keeps playing high level players which CoL has.

Im not sure if you have been watching him lately but he has improved leap and bounds over the last MLG and he just seems to be getting better and better. I would rate him as by far the most improved player in the last month or two.

worosei

Australia198 Posts

June 13 2011 04:26 GMT

#986

I dont understand why people are upset, the players are all there, and in fact the team has only gotten stronger.

Not only has CoL and ROOT gotten more talent, they are able to grown in size, pool their funds and learn off each other. Their roster has only gotten stronger.

Look at the Hite Entus merger, CJ Entus after the acquisition is rampaging through pro-league now.

Sure Kiwi and Slush has left, but im assuming that these players would be wanting to move some time in general. If they were that dedicated to their ROOT origins, then they'd most likely have stayed as the only thing that I can see as being of detriment is the removal of the ROOT name.

EnOmy

Australia183 Posts

June 13 2011 04:37 GMT

#987

I agree with most other posters in wondering where Kiwi and Slush will end up

Masq

Canada1792 Posts

June 13 2011 04:42 GMT

#988

im betting kiwi ends up in FXO ;p

tylermakesmusic

United States122 Posts

June 13 2011 04:44 GMT

#989

Not a big fan of any coL players, but I will continue to root for ROOT players on coL. (nPi)

Mordiford

4448 Posts

June 13 2011 04:50 GMT

#990

On June 13 2011 13:26 worosei wrote:
I dont understand why people are upset, the players are all there, and in fact the team has only gotten stronger.

Not only has CoL and ROOT gotten more talent, they are able to grown in size, pool their funds and learn off each other. Their roster has only gotten stronger.

Look at the Hite Entus merger, CJ Entus after the acquisition is rampaging through pro-league now.

Sure Kiwi and Slush has left, but im assuming that these players would be wanting to move some time in general. If they were that dedicated to their ROOT origins, then they'd most likely have stayed as the only thing that I can see as being of detriment is the removal of the ROOT name.

This isn't a merger, it's an acquisition. It doesn't take any sort of genius to realize there's no pooling of funds, the players on ROOT are being transferred over to Complexity's player sheet entirely.

adrenaLinG

Canada676 Posts

June 13 2011 05:05 GMT

#991

Hi who wants to hire me as an investment banker for Starcraft 2?? I can make pitch books and sell my soul to Starcraft. You can pay for transaction fees in autographs and coaching sessions.

Tegin

United States840 Posts

June 13 2011 05:33 GMT

#992

Congrats to Complexity. Wishing the best for Kiwi and Slush as well. I'd have to say FXO? Liquid? EG?

zoLo

United States5896 Posts

June 13 2011 05:36 GMT

#993

Wow, this is random. I did not expect this at all since ROOT recently got IGN and Justin.TV as sponsors, so I assumed they were settled. coL really just got a lot stronger because of this merger. I'm curious to know where kiwi and slush will go to.

DMXD

United States4064 Posts

June 13 2011 05:37 GMT

#994

I was really confuse when I saw the recent TL attack .
RIP Root
Good luck to the players

orn

Australia76 Posts

June 13 2011 05:42 GMT

#995

Sounds great. Wish Blizzard offered some sort of namechange service like in WoW, so awkward when people change teams when they're in Grandmasters and they're kinda stuck with their old teams name unless they want to remake another account and be high Masters...

SweetAs

New Zealand290 Posts

June 13 2011 05:47 GMT

#996

LOL? all the good players didn't go. Hopefully slush and kiwikaki will get picked up by good teams.

DeltruS

Canada2214 Posts

June 13 2011 05:54 GMT

#997

I am rooting for a LiquidKiwikaki in Korea.

worosei

Australia198 Posts

June 13 2011 05:56 GMT

#998

On June 13 2011 13:50 Mordiford wrote:

Show nested quote +

Ah, well i still think the acquisition isnt as bad as everyone is saying it is. Maybe it's the subconscious thought processes of 'evil big corporation buying out the little guys' that we associate with 'aquisitions' these days.

But if CoL acquired ROOT, on a very simple level it still means CoL gets ROOT's stuff (subject to whatever terms and conditions they agreed to).

If CoL's the bigger organisation, then their acquisition of ROOT means they have the benefit of the players and learning capabilities from the ROOT guys, and ROOT gets the benefit of joining a much better funded organisation to help them grow as well. ROOT was a small team created by Catz and Drewbie, they didnt have the funds, they didnt have the facilities. Being acquired now means that the ROOT team can focus on being players without being bogged down with as many administration issues. I still cant see where the loss is.

CoL isnt some evil corporation to wants to buy over ROOT and strip them off its assets and make everyone go unemployed. ROOT being acquired only helps them become not only the best, but the greatest pro-gaming team in America.

Back to the Hite Entus example, CJ in essence acquired Hite through CJ's acquisition of controlling share of OnMedia (which owned Hite Sparky, but kept Hite name through sponsorship deals). The only detriment would be a number of the B-team players who found themselves out of a job and having to find another team... but for the CoL/ROOT there is no team league format to worry like that, a with a team like ROOT, i think the only peope who have to fear about being side-lined would be some of the CoL players!

seupac

Canada148 Posts

June 13 2011 06:01 GMT

#999

On June 13 2011 11:53 Isaac wrote:
offtopic, for col: does flex/flexxi/flexx still play?

from what ive heard he does but not competitive level. wow arena is worse even than it was when he played beastcleave in coL black, and it has no future in esport

starcraft 2 is where everyone is going though. wow arena and counterstrike players making the transition have a much harder time than wc3 and BW players for obvious reasons. that said, minigun made the transition very well and nadagast is already grandmasters - i would give everyone else some time haha

Battousai13

United States638 Posts

June 13 2011 06:02 GMT

#1000

Best wishes to ROOT and Complexity.

I can't help but feel that Complexity got a bad public image after the TSL3, centering around the Cruncher vs IdrA match. Cruncher is a part of Complexity, and they are responsible for safeguarding all their players. Hopefully with the infusion of ROOT members, they will be able to reset their public image the SC2 community.