오늘 최지성선수가 MLG 콜럼버스행 비행기를 못탔습니다. 모두다 제 잘못입니다. 너무속상하고 지성이한테 미안하네요. 아쉽지만 다음달 애너하임대회때 출전시킬계획입니다. 최지성선수를 응원해주시는 팬분들께도 죄송하단말씀드립니다.
Bomber has missed his flight to the United States. The google translation implies that this means that he will miss MLG and Milkis has confirmed that to be true.
normally if iw anst going to mlg id be super disappointed but seeing as how on the slim chance id have to play him and now i definitely dont im happy lol
But yes, how can he miss a flight when there's a fucking image of him on his way to the airport with two other people? Did he forget his passport at home, or something?
Also, any idea what will happen to the spot in the group? Will it go to the winner of the CotH? Or maybe simply the next ranking unseeded player?
On June 02 2011 13:06 Pirat6662001 wrote: Well this sucks, Koreans seem to not be very punctual, just the other day Maka got a free win because his opponent didnt show up
wtf stop trolling idiot. take a look at nasl, sometimes shit happens and players cannot make it. it happens to everyone.
If bomber and losira went to the airport together and losira is on the plane then there must have been some sort of problem....
Either that or hes afraid of flying, i doubt it would be the latter though must have been some kind of problem like he forgot his passport or something.
djWheat just told IdrA on the EG tournament as they are casting and IdrA said something along the lines of "Oh wow, he was in my group... he was the best player in my group. I was actually looking forward to playing him after watching him against Nestea."
That really sucks though... he was probably the strongest player coming from Korea, but it's good for everyone else!
Wow, this is so depressing :-( I was really looking forward to seeing him play... Why Bomber, why? >.> He's also probably the best Korean out of the four that were seeded, so how he performed would be a big part of comparing the best foreigners at MLG to "the Koreans" in general. Really a shame :-(
Bomber vs IdrA was going to be the epic opening match for friday if i'm not mistaken too :/ it's a shame but somehow I'm not worried about match quality at MLG.
Will you guys please at least give the other 268 or 269 non-Korean players a chance to beat 3 KOREANS?????? Yes the Koreans going to MLG are really good but wow. The second they announced them going all I hear is "It's over. Koreans will wipe the face of the earth with them."
On June 02 2011 13:10 Chicane wrote: djWheat just told IdrA on the EG tournament as they are casting and IdrA said something along the lines of "Oh wow, he was in my group... he was the best player in my group. I was actually looking forward to playing him after watching him against Nestea."
That really sucks though... he was probably the strongest player coming from Korea, but it's good for everyone else!
I just watched that vod last night before sleep. In fact, I watch all of his vods. It always excites me to see him listed in an upcoming event. Hope he makes it somehow.
Honestly this has happened in the past with many pro gamers, not just in SC. BUT REALLY?... people are just.. sigh -_- oh well, better chance for the foreigners.
On June 02 2011 12:57 Sworn wrote: ........No bomber? God damn he couldn't catch another flight before MLG starts really?
You do realize that it's roughly a 15 hour flight (and that's without delays) right? Also, having to search for a scheduled flight in time by late thurs-friday would be near impossible.
On June 02 2011 12:59 Limenade wrote: normally if iw anst going to mlg id be super disappointed but seeing as how on the slim chance id have to play him and now i definitely dont im happy lol
"Exit Permits: Usually you do not need an exit permit to leave the Republic of Korea; however, if one parent requests the ROK Immigration Service to place a travel restriction on his or her child, ROK Immigration may prevent the child from departing the Republic of Korea, even if traveling with the other parent. Please see also the section below on Passport Seizures, Exit Bans, and Commercial Disputes."
Edit : But Bomber is 23 so......... my quote probably doesn't make any sense. Edit 2 : These rules apply to US citizens apparently, so double fail on my part
On June 02 2011 12:57 Sworn wrote: ........No bomber? God damn he couldn't catch another flight before MLG starts really?
You do realize that it's roughly a 15 hour flight (and that's without delays) right? Also, having to search for a scheduled flight in time by late thurs-friday would be near impossible.
no...it's a hassle to get another flight but if MLG pulls some strings they can make it happen. nothing is impossible
On June 02 2011 13:18 garlicface wrote: And from HuK's twitter:
LorangerChris I wouldn't worry about Bomber not showing up guys, I have a feeling that someone else will show up instead....
Oh snap. Either Nestea or MKP perhaps??
He probably means Jinro or the person who the CotH tournament.
I don't know if they could find a replacement for Bomber out of nowhere, get all the paper work done and send him on a flight to make the first round at MLG.
On June 02 2011 13:18 garlicface wrote: And from HuK's twitter:
LorangerChris I wouldn't worry about Bomber not showing up guys, I have a feeling that someone else will show up instead....
Oh snap. Either Nestea or MKP perhaps??
He probably means Jinro or the person who the CotH tournament.
I don't know if they could find a replacement for Bomber out of nowhere, get all the paper work done and send him on a flight to make the first round at MLG.
Or he could mean MVP.. since MVP got knocked out and doesn't have games upcoming.
I feel less sorry for myself as a spectator who will miss out watching a great competitor than I do for Bomber himself. Koreans are always talking about how much they would like to compete abroad. He must have really been looking forward to this ever since he got his invite. Poor guy.
On June 02 2011 13:18 garlicface wrote: And from HuK's twitter:
LorangerChris I wouldn't worry about Bomber not showing up guys, I have a feeling that someone else will show up instead....
Oh snap. Either Nestea or MKP perhaps??
He probably means Jinro or the person who the CotH tournament.
I don't know if they could find a replacement for Bomber out of nowhere, get all the paper work done and send him on a flight to make the first round at MLG.
Or he could mean MVP.. since MVP got knocked out and doesn't have games upcoming.
*whistles*
I don't think MVP would have the time and resources a few hours after losing to fly to America.
Maybe, a super long shot, would be MC since he was eliminated a week ago, has learned some English, has nothing to do, and is close with Jinro-Huk.
TorcHGaming Trevor Housten by SeltzerPlease ST Bomber is going to be giving these away to his favorite fan at the end of MLG! http://yfrog.com/h8mnnbjj #ZowieGear 12 hours ago
If HuK made that comment, it is probably someone from oGs or maybe an ST replacement like Ace or Squirtle (hoping for Ace or Nada) but I will lol if it is MC since he will go right into IdrAs group after IdrA has been preparing for Bomber. It will be the ultimate troll move.
I'm surprised that MLG/Startale/GSL didn't coordinate for this event. A visa is, sometimes, tough to obtain, but I feel like they had pretty adequate time. It wasn't just some tourist - he had other interests that had...interests...in seeing him come to America: two competitive organizations and his team. It's too bad but it isn't some travesty, someone somewhere made a mistake.
On June 02 2011 13:23 AlBundy wrote: Thanks for editing the OP. Meh... all this mess because of one piece of (electronic) paper...
Also after reading Huk's tweet I'd say that either Ace or Squirtle is going to replace Bomber.
lol guys huk implied someone was going but he never gave the slightest hint about WHO would go. we can only speculate. not sure where you are getting ace or squirtle.
On June 02 2011 13:23 AlBundy wrote: Thanks for editing the OP. Meh... all this mess because of one piece of (electronic) paper...
Also after reading Huk's tweet I'd say that either Ace or Squirtle is going to replace Bomber.
lol guys huk implied someone was going but he never gave the slightest hint about WHO would go. we can only speculate. not sure where you are getting ace or squirtle.
He was clearly only speculating, and he was probably under the assumption that it would be another ST player since Bomber is in ST.
On June 02 2011 13:22 slugMUDorange wrote: HAHHAHHHHAHAHA MLG is already looking like a disappointment.
I think this is quite rude. There's other koreans going. It's not like Bomber was the only korean, or guaranteed the win.
It's because of all the hype surrounding Bomber and how he's a huuuge favorite to win.
But still, I wouldn't decide not to watch MLG because of one missing player, and a top-tier player at that. There are plenty of other great players in this tourney that also deserve to win.
I don't think it can be MC because MC goes to Shanghai for the semi-finals of the Stars War tournament sometime in the next week, even though it'd be amazing if MC showed up. Since it's Huk personally tweeting the only other person I assume it will be is Jinro. I don't know why people are assuming it's going to be anyone else like MKP or Nestea who are in the GSL Super Tournament and would want to focus solely on their chance of winning that and not getting jetlagged.
"Exit Permits: Usually you do not need an exit permit to leave the Republic of Korea; however, if one parent requests the ROK Immigration Service to place a travel restriction on his or her child, ROK Immigration may prevent the child from departing the Republic of Korea, even if traveling with the other parent. Please see also the section below on Passport Seizures, Exit Bans, and Commercial Disputes."
Edit : But Bomber is 23 so......... my quote probably doesn't make any sense.
I don't know specifics about their culture, and how e-sports team are generally structured, but my initial thoughts are this is a huge fail by their team manager. Looking into passports/visas should pretty much be one of the top priorities to look into, once you know your player is going overseas. Tough times for Bomber.
Very unfortunate. They even rescheduled super tournament around bombers flight to accommodate for MLG. TBH, I'd be disappointed if Jinro was the replacement(out of the tournament, tweet from huk, seems likely). No disrespect to Jinro but I believe Bomber is a much stronger player and increases the competition greatly at MLG. I hope he gets re-invited into the next MLG.
wtf? He even went there with torch and losira, yet he didnt manage to get on the plane?
Some mystery we got here
If I understand correctly, he doesnt have a biometric passport, just a normal one Korean can go to USA without visa only if they have a biometric passport otherwise they need to apply for visa on the US Embassy
So probably when he checked-in at the airport they notice that he doesnt have a biometric passport and thus cant let him board the plane
On June 02 2011 13:37 Vorlik wrote: Very unfortunate. They even rescheduled super tournament around bombers flight to accommodate for MLG. TBH, I'd be disappointed if Jinro was the replacement(out of the tournament, tweet from huk, seems likely). No disrespect to Jinro but I believe Bomber is a much stronger player and increases the competition greatly at MLG. I hope he gets re-invited into the next MLG.
startale mentioned on their twitter that bomber is going to Anaheim i believe
On June 02 2011 13:28 Mitchlew wrote: At least Idra will be happy about this news
He said he was actually looking forward to playing him...unless that was sarcastic.
It was most likely sincere. Didn't get to hear it myself though. IdrA has more respect for Korean opponents, and Bomber is definitely no slouch.
Ya I heard it and he sounded sincere... but like I said if MC replaces Bomber and beats IdrA that will be the ultimate troll move by MLG.
MC is going to Shanghai for the Stars War tournament. My bet is on Jinro since he's out of the GSL, leaving Korea, and he's someone that can easily get into the US without dealing with a bunch of visa nonsense.
On June 02 2011 13:36 hunts wrote: sad, really wanted to see bomber play But on the bright side, I bet somewhere out there, is a VERY happy grack
doesn't sound like it he wanted to play bomber and I wanted to watch it T_T
I really wanted to see it too idra vs bomber in th group play is definitely a finals worthy match (and I was honeslty predicting that in the finals as well) both players are so amazing
On June 02 2011 13:28 Mitchlew wrote: At least Idra will be happy about this news
He said he was actually looking forward to playing him...unless that was sarcastic.
It was most likely sincere. Didn't get to hear it myself though. IdrA has more respect for Korean opponents, and Bomber is definitely no slouch.
Ya I heard it and he sounded sincere... but like I said if MC replaces Bomber and beats IdrA that will be the ultimate troll move by MLG.
MC is going to Shanghai for the Stars War tournament. My bet is on Jinro since he's out of the GSL, leaving Korea, and he's someone that can easily get into the US without dealing with a bunch of visa nonsense.
Who said hes leaving Korea? I thought this was just people talking nonsense. Did he say something himself?
On June 02 2011 13:28 Mitchlew wrote: At least Idra will be happy about this news
He said he was actually looking forward to playing him...unless that was sarcastic.
It was most likely sincere. Didn't get to hear it myself though. IdrA has more respect for Korean opponents, and Bomber is definitely no slouch.
Ya I heard it and he sounded sincere... but like I said if MC replaces Bomber and beats IdrA that will be the ultimate troll move by MLG.
MC is going to Shanghai for the Stars War tournament. My bet is on Jinro since he's out of the GSL, leaving Korea, and he's someone that can easily get into the US without dealing with a bunch of visa nonsense.
Probably is Jinro, but he isn't leaving Korea. He said he loves it there and wants to live in Korea.
MMA has pretty much accomplished nothing besides beat a few good players and many relative unknowns in Bo1's. He almost got destroyed by Supernova who isn't even that good in TvT but Supernova threw it away with horrible macro. He really isn't on Bomber's level.
On June 02 2011 13:28 Mitchlew wrote: At least Idra will be happy about this news
He said he was actually looking forward to playing him...unless that was sarcastic.
It was most likely sincere. Didn't get to hear it myself though. IdrA has more respect for Korean opponents, and Bomber is definitely no slouch.
Ya I heard it and he sounded sincere... but like I said if MC replaces Bomber and beats IdrA that will be the ultimate troll move by MLG.
MC is going to Shanghai for the Stars War tournament. My bet is on Jinro since he's out of the GSL, leaving Korea, and he's someone that can easily get into the US without dealing with a bunch of visa nonsense.
wait what? Jinro was scheduled to leave Korea? for what? and this is temporary right?
On June 02 2011 13:28 Mitchlew wrote: At least Idra will be happy about this news
He said he was actually looking forward to playing him...unless that was sarcastic.
It was most likely sincere. Didn't get to hear it myself though. IdrA has more respect for Korean opponents, and Bomber is definitely no slouch.
Ya I heard it and he sounded sincere... but like I said if MC replaces Bomber and beats IdrA that will be the ultimate troll move by MLG.
MC is going to Shanghai for the Stars War tournament. My bet is on Jinro since he's out of the GSL, leaving Korea, and he's someone that can easily get into the US without dealing with a bunch of visa nonsense.
wait what? Jinro was scheduled to leave Korea? for what? and this is temporary right?
Nevermind then, thought I saw a post on gomtv's forums saying that Jinro was leaving but it might have been a troll thread. Either way, it's probably Jinro.
Bomber Vs MMA, my opinion: vP: Bomber is a god, no change here for MMA. vT: Bomber has better macro, but MMA uses more multitasking. So similar. vZ: Slightly to MMA.
That is good and bad. I'm happy that it'll give all the other people a great chance but out of all the Korean invitees, Bomber was indefinitely my favorite so I'm really sad that he won't be here to compete. At least the coth winner will be there to reign hell down on all who oppose!
On June 02 2011 13:45 Heavenly wrote: Nevermind then, thought I saw a post on gomtv's forums saying that Jinro was leaving but it might have been a troll thread. Either way, it's probably Jinro.
Seriously, don't ever believe any non-news posts in the GOM forum. That place is filled with trolls. No quality posts can be found over there.
On June 02 2011 13:49 MooMooMugi wrote: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
So sad to see him make such a fatal mistake =(
More the teams management mistake than his. There is still a little bit of hope from mlg staff to make it happen, and if not, I'm sure we'll see him next mlg (=
On June 02 2011 13:46 StarscreamG1 wrote: Bomber Vs MMA, my opinion: vP: Bomber is a god, no change here for MMA. vT: Bomber has better macro, but MMA uses more multitasking. So similar. vZ: Slightly to MMA.
I love them both
Are you implying MMA is somewhat competent at TvP?
His TvT is pretty depressing too.. if Supernova wasn't eh.. Supernova. Yeah. Any other top terran would have made Marines that third game after the insane harass and have a-moved and killed MMA.
On June 02 2011 13:46 StarscreamG1 wrote: Bomber Vs MMA, my opinion: vP: Bomber is a god, no change here for MMA. vT: Bomber has better macro, but MMA uses more multitasking. So similar. vZ: Slightly to MMA.
I love them both
Are you implying MMA is somewhat competent at TvP?
His TvT is pretty depressing too.. if Supernova wasn't eh.. Supernova. Yeah. Any other top terran would have made Marines that third game after the insane harass and have a-moved and killed MMA.
OKAY!!! There is approximately about 33? hours till MLG starts. It takes about 15 hours from korea to Colombus. MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN within the next 18 hours!
On June 02 2011 13:46 StarscreamG1 wrote: Bomber Vs MMA, my opinion: vP: Bomber is a god, no change here for MMA. vT: Bomber has better macro, but MMA uses more multitasking. So similar. vZ: Slightly to MMA.
I love them both
Are you implying MMA is somewhat competent at TvP?
His TvT is pretty depressing too.. if Supernova wasn't eh.. Supernova. Yeah. Any other top terran would have made Marines that third game after the insane harass and have a-moved and killed MMA.
lol...there is a reason MMA is the top player in the SlayerS.
On June 02 2011 13:43 Heavenly wrote: MMA has pretty much accomplished nothing besides beat a few good players and many relative unknowns in Bo1's. He almost got destroyed by Supernova who isn't even that good in TvT but Supernova threw it away with horrible macro. He really isn't on Bomber's level.
I don't know about you, but single handedly carrying your team to beat every other team out there in Korea in the team league, TWICE, is a pretty big accomplishment to me.
On June 02 2011 13:54 SEANSYE wrote: OKAY!!! There is approximately about 33? hours till MLG starts. It takes about 15 hours from korea to Colombus. MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN within the next 18 hours!
If there was ever a time for SC2 to prove it has the most amazing and fantastic community in the world, it's now.
On June 02 2011 13:54 SEANSYE wrote: OKAY!!! There is approximately about 33? hours till MLG starts. It takes about 15 hours from korea to Colombus. MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN within the next 18 hours!
I wonder how badly jet lag could hurt someones performance..
On June 02 2011 13:57 Voltaire wrote: Obviously no one is going to be sent from Korea to MLG to replace Bomber; that is not going to happen at this point.
MMA is awesome, but bomber has that x-factor quality... he's a top player's top player. it seems like all top players are really afraid of him and he destroyed whitera (i think it was) in two bo7s.
only person i'v seen convincingly take him out was nestea and it was only because nestea turned on extra awesome mode.
reallllllllllllllly want to see bomber this weekend
On June 02 2011 13:46 StarscreamG1 wrote: Bomber Vs MMA, my opinion: vP: Bomber is a god, no change here for MMA. vT: Bomber has better macro, but MMA uses more multitasking. So similar. vZ: Slightly to MMA.
I love them both
Are you implying MMA is somewhat competent at TvP?
His TvT is pretty depressing too.. if Supernova wasn't eh.. Supernova. Yeah. Any other top terran would have made Marines that third game after the insane harass and have a-moved and killed MMA.
Hilarious how much you hate on MMA. Give it a rest already. Every topic I see you in, you're whining about how MMA is overrated and now this. You're free to think that he's overrated because I can see where you're coming from, but when he has a >50% winrate in both TvP and TvT and you imply that his TvP is incompetent and say that his TvT is depressing, you're just flat-out wrong and being biased as hell.
On June 02 2011 13:54 SEANSYE wrote: OKAY!!! There is approximately about 33? hours till MLG starts. It takes about 15 hours from korea to Colombus. MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN within the next 18 hours!
Not to mention the final games of pool play happen on Saturday so theoretically if he gets there by then MLG can have Bomber play the people in his group while they're waiting to play the last member from the open bracket. Hopefully MLG can make this happen!
So I guess one of 4 things will happen: 1. Everyone who is scheduled to play Bomber gets a 2-0 walkover. 2. Highest seed from open bracket is bumped up into Group play, every other open bracket player jumps up one seed, top open bracket player gets a first round walkover/some random person fills last seed of open bracket. 3. Another Korean is sent to replace Bomber through MLG-GSL exchange program. 4. CSN is sending a Korean to MLG through the open bracket, perhaps that Korean can now be directly seeded.
I don't see a very high possibility for 3, I'm sure there's a lot of paperwork and preparation going into sending a person all the way across the world for 3-4 days.
4 seems like the most rational idea, but I have a feeling that MLG is going with 1.
On June 02 2011 13:43 Heavenly wrote: MMA has pretty much accomplished nothing besides beat a few good players and many relative unknowns in Bo1's. He almost got destroyed by Supernova who isn't even that good in TvT but Supernova threw it away with horrible macro. He really isn't on Bomber's level.
I don't know about you, but single handedly carrying your team to beat every other team out there in Korea in the team league, TWICE, is a pretty big accomplishment to me.
He didn't singlehandedly do it, he never all-killed anybody now did he? He may have sniped people in a Bo1 ace match and had a couple two or three kills against relatively unknown players but that doesn't mean he's accomplished anything that puts him on Bomber's level.
On June 02 2011 14:00 JKira wrote: So I guess one of 4 things will happen: 1. Everyone who is scheduled to play Bomber gets a 2-0 walkover. 2. Highest seed from open bracket is bumped up into Group play, every other open bracket player jumps up one seed, top open bracket player gets a first round walkover/some random person fills last seed of open bracket. 3. Another Korean is sent to replace Bomber through MLG-GSL exchange program. 4. CSN is sending a Korean to MLG through the open bracket, perhaps that Korean can now be directly seeded.
I don't see a very high possibility for 3, I'm sure there's a lot of paperwork and preparation going into sending a person all the way across the world for 3-4 days.
4 seems like the most rational idea, but I have a feeling that MLG is going with 1.
On June 02 2011 14:00 JKira wrote: So I guess one of 4 things will happen: 1. Everyone who is scheduled to play Bomber gets a 2-0 walkover. 2. Highest seed from open bracket is bumped up into Group play, every other open bracket player jumps up one seed, top open bracket player gets a first round walkover/some random person fills last seed of open bracket. 3. Another Korean is sent to replace Bomber through MLG-GSL exchange program. 4. CSN is sending a Korean to MLG through the open bracket, perhaps that Korean can now be directly seeded.
I don't see a very high possibility for 3, I'm sure there's a lot of paperwork and preparation going into sending a person all the way across the world for 3-4 days.
4 seems like the most rational idea, but I have a feeling that MLG is going with 1.
I hope it's option 4 too
#1 is the worst option possible >_< Walkovers are just horrible
On June 02 2011 14:00 JKira wrote: So I guess one of 4 things will happen: 1. Everyone who is scheduled to play Bomber gets a 2-0 walkover. 2. Highest seed from open bracket is bumped up into Group play, every other open bracket player jumps up one seed, top open bracket player gets a first round walkover/some random person fills last seed of open bracket. 3. Another Korean is sent to replace Bomber through MLG-GSL exchange program. 4. CSN is sending a Korean to MLG through the open bracket, perhaps that Korean can now be directly seeded.
I don't see a very high possibility for 3, I'm sure there's a lot of paperwork and preparation going into sending a person all the way across the world for 3-4 days.
4 seems like the most rational idea, but I have a feeling that MLG is going with 1.
They would never do 1 because its even against their own seeding procedure and would cause a shitstorm. Walkovers in group play would never happen. They must be aware of the chance of a seeded player not showing. Either they get another korean, possibly CSN, or they take the 17th in MLG points out of the open bracket before it starts.
this is like that time, when I had to go to my cousin's wedding across the border, and my passport which i thought was expiring in a month, had been expired for a year. D =
I know how you feel. Sucks for bomber. Would have been nice to watch him crush face.
On June 02 2011 14:06 Duoma wrote: I guess the airlines must have heard his ID.
Not a great practice to allow some guy name "Bomber" on a plane. =/
lol so true haha. Imagine some fans yelling at the airport like Justin BB's teen girls about somethings like bombs or bomber will rape or destroy NA and EU =))
On June 02 2011 14:06 Duoma wrote: I guess the airlines must have heard his ID.
Not a great practice to allow some guy name "Bomber" on a plane. =/
lol so true haha. Imagine some fans yelling at the airport like Justin BB's teen girls about somethings like bombs or bomber will rape or destroy NA and EU =))
NUKE THOSE FORIEGNERS BOMBER!! SNIPE THEM PEWPEWPEW!!!
Dont want to troll here but I dont really like him, just personally, so fine to me -_- still lilltle bit disappointed of not having a good player to own the North american Guess Naniwa will be enough though
On June 02 2011 14:12 Itsmedudeman wrote: could he fit like in a box maybe and they'll just smuggle him in?
:D:D
lol
okay in all seriousness they can't give people a walkover because it would raise hell, and they do not want hell this time around. So, imo, they would most likely let July take Bomber's place or fly another Korean out to appease the fans.
Letting July take the seed will not go down too well but better than most as he is widely known and popular among the community.
Jinro is great and all, but with his current form, he would more than likely get knocked out in the open bracket before he had a chance to make an impact.
Has to be a Code S class Korean or someone like MC for there to be a huge impact.
Kind of Ironic, after someone notable tweeting about how Korean players aren't afraid to fly and compete in foreign events and foreigners afraid of flying out to Korea to compete with Koreans.
To all the people that keep saying there's not enough time to fly someone from Korea: If they are replacing bomber's spot in the pool... it's 2 days and 14 hours until the start of pool play... that should be enough time to get over here.
On June 02 2011 14:21 Jugan wrote: Kind of Ironic, after someone notable tweeting about how Korean players aren't afraid to fly and compete in foreign events and foreigners afraid of flying out to Korea to compete with Koreans.
It isn't ironic at all since your point makes no sense. What does bomber missing the flight have anything to do with fear?
This is dissapointing indeed.. I was very interested in seeing how a top terran player such as bomber stacks up against top tier NA/EU players.
But then again, we get to watch MMA, Moon, Losira and another korean player in this mlg. I didn't understand why some people were putting down Moon in state of the game episode 40. His 2nd place in IEM and current record in NASL (6-2 mind you, with apparent lag issues) should speak for themselves and he should be a strong contender for mlg. Yes I am a Moon fanboy but his hype is just.
On June 02 2011 14:21 Jugan wrote: Kind of Ironic, after someone notable tweeting about how Korean players aren't afraid to fly and compete in foreign events and foreigners afraid of flying out to Korea to compete with Koreans.
im sorry but your comment is very ignorant and stupid when the OP clearly states that this was a VISA issue. read bro, there is nothing about being afraid or anything of that matter.
On June 02 2011 14:23 WardenSC wrote: This is dissapointing indeed.. I was very interested in seeing how a top terran player such as bomber stacks up against top tier NA/EU players.
But then again, we get to watch MMA, Moon, Losira and another korean player in this mlg. I didn't understand why some people were putting down Moon in state of the game episode 40. His 2nd place in IEM and current record in NASL (6-2 mind you, with apparent lag issues) should speak for themselves and he should be a strong contender for mlg. Yes I am a Moon fanboy but his hype is just.
On June 02 2011 14:21 Fionn wrote: Jinro is great and all, but with his current form, he would more than likely get knocked out in the open bracket before he had a chance to make an impact.
Has to be a Code S class Korean or someone like MC for there to be a huge impact.
Current Form? He has been in Korea and lost to very good Korean players. The margin of skill over there is unbelievably small. Saying Jinro is not a S class player at the moment is absurd. He is a great player and will show it.
On June 02 2011 14:23 WardenSC wrote: This is dissapointing indeed.. I was very interested in seeing how a top terran player such as bomber stacks up against top tier NA/EU players.
But then again, we get to watch MMA, Moon, Losira and another korean player in this mlg. I didn't understand why some people were putting down Moon in state of the game episode 40. His 2nd place in IEM and current record in NASL (6-2 mind you, with apparent lag issues) should speak for themselves and he should be a strong contender for mlg. Yes I am a Moon fanboy but his hype is just.
I want to agree with you but he just played soooooo bad in the super tournament recently and his previous track record in gsl is very poor. He's not bad by any means, but not a top level korean zerg.
Man...I was looking forward to seeing him play in person. Kinda surprised that something like this wasn't planned or executed better but meh, stuff happens.
On June 02 2011 14:22 Kerwinius wrote: To all the people that keep saying there's not enough time to fly someone from Korea: If they are replacing bomber's spot in the pool... it's 2 days and 14 hours until the start of pool play... that should be enough time to get over here.
That's not the point - you can't just fly over to the States for any reason, especially if you are coming for commercial reasons as Bomber is. I'm defining commercial reasons as ones that can win you money and can be classified as "work", which definitely covers playing in an MLG.
You've gotta apply for those, and 2 days is most definitely not enough to get that application through.
Unfortunate, cause Bomber would have easily been a contender to win this event. I'm still pulling for LZGamer though!!!!
On June 02 2011 14:21 Dubpace wrote: @Hot_Bid Hot_Bid official statement from Bomber "I am too offended by usage of certain inappropriate words on American broadcasts"
Am I the only one that has seen this tweet? >.>
I don't even know how to respond
Dude, it's Hot_Bid, 99% sure it's a troll tweet.
Edit: 100% sure after remembering the whole debate on SotG and stuff.
On June 02 2011 14:21 Dubpace wrote: @Hot_Bid Hot_Bid official statement from Bomber "I am too offended by usage of certain inappropriate words on American broadcasts"
On June 02 2011 14:25 Autobeat wrote: Man...I was looking forward to seeing him play in person. Kinda surprised that something like this wasn't planned or executed better but meh, stuff happens.
Was this his first time leaving the country? I'm also just kind of curious about how this could happen, but oh well. Someone earlier posted that the ST twitter said Bomber is planning to attend MLG Anaheim, though, so at least we'll get to see him there and they'll have everything worked out for that, I hope.
epic facepalm. Bomber could have been in the RO8 or 4 for sure or even win if he had some good luck/shape, too bad such a good player can't attend the MLG
On June 02 2011 14:21 Fionn wrote: Jinro is great and all, but with his current form, he would more than likely get knocked out in the open bracket before he had a chance to make an impact.
Has to be a Code S class Korean or someone like MC for there to be a huge impact.
Current Form? He has been in Korea and lost to very good Korean players. The margin of skill over there is unbelievably small. Saying Jinro is not a S class player at the moment is absurd. He is a great player and will show it.
his play vs that zerg at that ro64 was just bad. Nothing got to do with the level of play
On June 02 2011 14:21 Jugan wrote: Kind of Ironic, after someone notable tweeting about how Korean players aren't afraid to fly and compete in foreign events and foreigners afraid of flying out to Korea to compete with Koreans.
im sorry but your comment is very ignorant and stupid when the OP clearly states that this was a VISA issue. read bro, there is nothing about being afraid or anything of that matter.
I think its more ignorant to believe anyone trying to dodge a foreign tournament because they are afraid of losing would say "Hey, I won't come to you're tournament because I'm afraid of losing" rather than make up a good excuse such as "I missed my flight".
On June 02 2011 14:21 Fionn wrote: Jinro is great and all, but with his current form, he would more than likely get knocked out in the open bracket before he had a chance to make an impact.
Has to be a Code S class Korean or someone like MC for there to be a huge impact.
Current Form? He has been in Korea and lost to very good Korean players. The margin of skill over there is unbelievably small. Saying Jinro is not a S class player at the moment is absurd. He is a great player and will show it.
How is it absurd? He just got bumped down to Code A lol.
On June 02 2011 14:21 Jugan wrote: Kind of Ironic, after someone notable tweeting about how Korean players aren't afraid to fly and compete in foreign events and foreigners afraid of flying out to Korea to compete with Koreans.
It isn't ironic at all since your point makes no sense. What does bomber missing the flight have anything to do with fear?
what he's implying is that Bomber actually feigned his inability to attend MLG with visa issues because he was chickening out. aka he thinks Bomber was afraid to fly out and play foreigners out of fear of losing.
he's just some anti-korean foreigner troll probably. nvm him.
July just got his spot to MLG. If ST sorts his visa out in time, they should be able to do the same for Bomber. Here's to hoping it works out for both of them and they share the same flight.
I bet it was because some idiot accidentally used his Starcraft username when booking the tickets, and he got held up at security because his passenger ID said Bomber on it.
On June 02 2011 14:34 Gaius Baltar wrote: July just got his spot to MLG. If ST sorts his visa out in time, they should be able to do the same for Bomber. Here's to hoping it works out for both of them and they share the same flight.
the games were cast from replays, so startale actually had plenty of time to get his visa.
On June 02 2011 14:34 Gaius Baltar wrote: July just got his spot to MLG. If ST sorts his visa out in time, they should be able to do the same for Bomber. Here's to hoping it works out for both of them and they share the same flight.
The games were cast from replays. July knew he was coming to America a long time ago.
On June 02 2011 14:34 Gaius Baltar wrote: July just got his spot to MLG. If ST sorts his visa out in time, they should be able to do the same for Bomber. Here's to hoping it works out for both of them and they share the same flight.
The CSN CoTh games were played awhile ago so they had time to get Julys visa ready, shouldn't be a problem for July. Doubt they will get one for Bomber on time.
On June 02 2011 14:34 Gaius Baltar wrote: July just got his spot to MLG. If ST sorts his visa out in time, they should be able to do the same for Bomber. Here's to hoping it works out for both of them and they share the same flight.
I don't know for sure but it is highly possible since these were replays, the winner could have been determined days to weeks ago.
On June 02 2011 14:21 Fionn wrote: Jinro is great and all, but with his current form, he would more than likely get knocked out in the open bracket before he had a chance to make an impact.
Has to be a Code S class Korean or someone like MC for there to be a huge impact.
Current Form? He has been in Korea and lost to very good Korean players. The margin of skill over there is unbelievably small. Saying Jinro is not a S class player at the moment is absurd. He is a great player and will show it.
How is it absurd? He just got bumped down to Code A lol.
MVP got pretty easily knocked down into Code A in the Up/Downs a few months back as well. DRG is an absurdly amazing player who hasn't even had a shot in Code A yet. At the highest levels in Korea so many things can happen and top players can drop games any day. Haypro advanced through the open bracket and has had nowhere near the success of Jinro, but all of a sudden Jinro cannot compete? Please stop judging players simply on the one or two matches you see of them a month (if they get knocked out early) and saying that they don't have what it takes.
Wait. You need a visa to travel to the United States for a week? I feel like that isn't right. Every time I have traveled to a foreign country I have not needed a visa, is the U.S. different?
On June 02 2011 14:38 Dubpace wrote: Wait. You need a visa to travel to the United States for a week? I feel like that isn't right. Every time I have traveled to a foreign country I have not needed a visa, is the U.S. different?
The US is quite strict in terms of VISA requirements. Quite possibly stricter than getting a Schengen VISA (or maybe that was just my experience - didn't even have to interview for a Schengen).
On June 02 2011 14:43 Dimagus wrote: Grack attack - a heart attack preceded by a sudden relief which is then immediately followed by the arrival of bad news
This is exactly what i thought, the only thing that he hates more than terran is protoss.
Bomber is currently at the top of the TLPD Korean rankings and for good reason. But MC... well, it's fucking MC on a main stage and the dude just drips character.
People really don't get that you were looking at 5 of the top 10 Koreans were going to be at MLG. Now it's just even more nutty because the biggest Korean Character is going to be there.
"Intelligence was going to type in a pinch .. MLG Being notified on the morning of 7 ㅋ ㅋ gangime fertilizer row rep preparing to win!"
can someone get a better translation?
EDIT: He then tweeted: "i'm going MLG!"
He said "I'm heading to MLG in behalf of Ji Sung ( Bomber ). I was notified earlier today and getting prepared to get on plane at 7. Will do best to win the tourneyment!"
I don;t get the hype about bomber tbh. I haven't seen any games, specifically ZVT games that reflect brilliance. If Idra can roll MVP I have no doubt that he could roll bomber.
And the cherry on top was the absolute demolishing bomber got last night, wow did he get steam rolled.
Idra is going to be less than happy, as i imagine that he has been practicing his ass off for ZvT against bomber.... only now to face the one and only Minchul who happens to play Idra's favorite race haha.
This is assuming that MC takes Bomber's spot in group C.
On June 02 2011 14:47 DongWang wrote: I don;t get the hype about bomber tbh. I haven't seen any games, specifically ZVT games that reflect brilliance. If Idra can roll MVP I have no doubt that he could roll bomber.
And the cherry on top was the absolute demolishing bomber got last night, wow did he get steam rolled.
Umm Mvp beat Idra 2-1 last time they played in gsl. Idra has never rolled him.
On June 02 2011 14:47 DongWang wrote: I don;t get the hype about bomber tbh. I haven't seen any games, specifically ZVT games that reflect brilliance. If Idra can roll MVP I have no doubt that he could roll bomber.
And the cherry on top was the absolute demolishing bomber got last night, wow did he get steam rolled.
Come on Idra never rolled MVP.. he beat him in a single ladder game. Please don't downtalk people just because they lose to someone on ladder lol.
I'm glad you have a hero but that's not what this thread is about.
Bomber is an insane player, go watch his TvP series vs White-Ra or pretty much every GSL game he has played.
On June 02 2011 14:47 DongWang wrote: I don;t get the hype about bomber tbh. I haven't seen any games, specifically ZVT games that reflect brilliance. If Idra can roll MVP I have no doubt that he could roll bomber.
And the cherry on top was the absolute demolishing bomber got last night, wow did he get steam rolled.
Umm Mvp beat Idra 2-1 last time they played in gsl. Idra has never rolled him.
He's probably talking about the one game on Shakuras that they played on the ladder.
To all those saying the Koreans are automatically going to win the tournament, fuck off. Remember Naniwa busting his ass through the open bracket to win the whole thing? It's a tournament and anything can happen. The Koreans are going to be extremely jet lagged and I don't think they will do quite as well as all the fanboys think they will.
edit: Of course it's unfortunate that Bomber couldn't make it and definitely has what it takes to win it, but he's not the only player who has those skills.
On June 02 2011 14:47 DongWang wrote: I don;t get the hype about bomber tbh. I haven't seen any games, specifically ZVT games that reflect brilliance. If Idra can roll MVP I have no doubt that he could roll bomber.
And the cherry on top was the absolute demolishing bomber got last night, wow did he get steam rolled.
Hmm. I highly encourage you to see more of Bomber's games.
On June 02 2011 14:47 DongWang wrote: I don;t get the hype about bomber tbh. I haven't seen any games, specifically ZVT games that reflect brilliance. If Idra can roll MVP I have no doubt that he could roll bomber.
And the cherry on top was the absolute demolishing bomber got last night, wow did he get steam rolled.
Bomber is extremely good. 4-2 over MVP, beating MMA and Ryung in code A.
Top of korean ELO, crushed whitera 8-2 in a massive series and his win rates are insane. Sure he lost vs Nestea but I'd favour him over any other zerg.
On June 02 2011 14:00 JKira wrote: So I guess one of 4 things will happen: 1. Everyone who is scheduled to play Bomber gets a 2-0 walkover. 2. Highest seed from open bracket is bumped up into Group play, every other open bracket player jumps up one seed, top open bracket player gets a first round walkover/some random person fills last seed of open bracket. 3. Another Korean is sent to replace Bomber through MLG-GSL exchange program. 4. CSN is sending a Korean to MLG through the open bracket, perhaps that Korean can now be directly seeded.
I don't see a very high possibility for 3, I'm sure there's a lot of paperwork and preparation going into sending a person all the way across the world for 3-4 days.
4 seems like the most rational idea, but I have a feeling that MLG is going with 1.
Looks like it was number 3 afterall! I secretly had hoped for this because I wanted to see if they could replace someone of Bomber's calibre. Can't believe it actually hapepend!
On June 02 2011 14:50 dANiELcanuck wrote: To all those saying the Koreans are automatically going to win the tournament, fuck off. Remember Naniwa busting his ass through the open bracket to win the whole thing? It's a tournament and anything can happen. The Koreans are going to be extremely jet lagged and I don't think they will do quite as well as all the fanboys think they will.
edit: Of course it's unfortunate that Bomber couldn't make it and definitely has what it takes to win it, but he's not the only player who has those skills.
I agree with you that Koreans aren't gonna roflstomp, but what does Naniwa crushing Dallas have to do with that?
Poor european teams that send their player to MLG for the first time, then - news that 4 koreans are seeded - news that July is coming too - news that MC is coming. They should just go to korea instead of USA :D
On June 02 2011 14:21 Jugan wrote: Kind of Ironic, after someone notable tweeting about how Korean players aren't afraid to fly and compete in foreign events and foreigners afraid of flying out to Korea to compete with Koreans.
im sorry but your comment is very ignorant and stupid when the OP clearly states that this was a VISA issue. read bro, there is nothing about being afraid or anything of that matter.
I think its more ignorant to believe anyone trying to dodge a foreign tournament because they are afraid of losing would say "Hey, I won't come to you're tournament because I'm afraid of losing" rather than make up a good excuse such as "I missed my flight".
I don't believe he did that though just saying ^^
rofl you have got to be kidding me. read the OP damnit. this isn't some conspiracy to get out of MLG. gawd some people are hopeless.
Oh shiiii-----, I take back what I said about being disappointed. Idra/MC in the same room is going to be nuts. This is like finding a 20$ bill in the wash you forgot about.
I went from Super Excited (and voted in the poll as such) to Wrist Slitting Disappointed (sadly not a poll option) back to Super Excited all in the space of what, 2 hours?
On June 02 2011 13:02 Hot_Bid wrote: did anyone really think TSA would let someone named "Bomber" fly into the US??
edit: too soon?
of course theyd let bomber fly into the us who doesn't want to check and pat down bomber's to "ensure safety".
Anyways, that's pretty bad because there's not that many Koreans at MLG now and now it is possible that they could just simply be flushed out and not seen during ro8 and above
On June 02 2011 14:47 DongWang wrote: I don;t get the hype about bomber tbh. I haven't seen any games, specifically ZVT games that reflect brilliance. If Idra can roll MVP I have no doubt that he could roll bomber.
And the cherry on top was the absolute demolishing bomber got last night, wow did he get steam rolled.
Bomber is extremely good. 4-2 over MVP, beating MMA and Ryung in code A.
Top of korean ELO, crushed whitera 8-2 in a massive series and his win rates are insane. Sure he lost vs Nestea but I'd favour him over any other zerg.
His TvP is self proclaimed to be the best.
Bomber's TvZ is good but not great. It's the TvT and TvP that are scary, scary good. He's got the opposite problem from MVP (who's TvP is weak).
So, I don't think Idra was as worried for Bomber as some think, but MC is a whole different batch of unfun for Idra. I can already guess he's going to 1-base cheese him 3 games in a row, which should be good fun.
The other thing is, we don't know how Bomber is in LAN. Remember, I believe he failed to make the Code A twice. Which we know Code A is insanely hard, but it's also a LAN type event and some players are far better in those situations. So we don't know how Bomber would have done. We know MC can travel & win tournaments, so that's not a question.
Either way, MLG Columbus just took it from 11 to 12. No way around having MC there not upping the tournament's already insane storyline. Sundance's new internet is definitely going to be tested!
On June 02 2011 15:00 mango_destroyer wrote: MC is a great addition but to be honest I really wished to see Bomber play
Same In fact I nearly don't care about seeing MC play. Perhaps because I only play zerg and terran so I can't appreciate good protoss play. Well, I'm still excited about MC vs Idra games xD
The thing about MMA and Bomber is that MMA does really well in GSTL which I think is more suited to a MLG event. You are facing a series of competitors with little to no practice time against that opponent.
Also, MMA (and the rest of SlayerS right now) is playing really really good. Bomber might be better in TvT, but I don't know if I would say he is a better overall player.
Bomber winning a match against MMA doesn't make him better. As someone pointed out, Polt has beaten MC, but he is not better than MC.
This is kinda funny because in BW, this would have never happened. Pros had no motivation to leave Korea. Hopefully in the future, teams will be able to travel smoother because leaving Korea will become a regular thing.
I do hate the extra hoops US laws makes everyone jump through when you want to fly over there, but it's obviously Startale's responsibility to make sure all the formalities and technicalities are in order before sending your people over.
There was no problem sending Ace to Australia and Europe, so they probably assumed the US procedures were similarly accommodating (they're not. It's a total hassle in comparison to simple EU/SEA visits). Oh well. Startale's loss! MC and oGs are going to benefit from their negligence.
Unfortunate. Was really looking forward to having bomber there. He is really someone to judge the quality of forigners. If you can compete with bomber you can hold your own with the very best.
On June 02 2011 14:47 DongWang wrote: I don;t get the hype about bomber tbh. I haven't seen any games, specifically ZVT games that reflect brilliance. If Idra can roll MVP I have no doubt that he could roll bomber.
And the cherry on top was the absolute demolishing bomber got last night, wow did he get steam rolled.
Bomber is extremely good. 4-2 over MVP, beating MMA and Ryung in code A.
Top of korean ELO, crushed whitera 8-2 in a massive series and his win rates are insane. Sure he lost vs Nestea but I'd favour him over any other zerg.
His TvP is self proclaimed to be the best.
Bomber's TvZ is good but not great. It's the TvT and TvP that are scary, scary good. He's got the opposite problem from MVP (who's TvP is weak).
So, I don't think Idra was as worried for Bomber as some think, but MC is a whole different batch of unfun for Idra. I can already guess he's going to 1-base cheese him 3 games in a row, which should be good fun.
The other thing is, we don't know how Bomber is in LAN. Remember, I believe he failed to make the Code A twice. Which we know Code A is insanely hard, but it's also a LAN type event and some players are far better in those situations. So we don't know how Bomber would have done. We know MC can travel & win tournaments, so that's not a question.
Either way, MLG Columbus just took it from 11 to 12. No way around having MC there not upping the tournament's already insane storyline. Sundance's new internet is definitely going to be tested!
lol clearly you dont watch the GSL, bomber qualified for code a last season and preceeded to win the whole thing including taking out MVP in the finals and then won his up and down match and he is now in code s =/. He also won in the round of 64 in the super tournament but was taken out by nestea in the next round.
Dont try and chime in on things you have no idea about
On June 02 2011 14:47 DongWang wrote: I don;t get the hype about bomber tbh. I haven't seen any games, specifically ZVT games that reflect brilliance. If Idra can roll MVP I have no doubt that he could roll bomber.
And the cherry on top was the absolute demolishing bomber got last night, wow did he get steam rolled.
Bomber is extremely good. 4-2 over MVP, beating MMA and Ryung in code A.
Top of korean ELO, crushed whitera 8-2 in a massive series and his win rates are insane. Sure he lost vs Nestea but I'd favour him over any other zerg.
His TvP is self proclaimed to be the best.
Bomber's TvZ is good but not great. It's the TvT and TvP that are scary, scary good. He's got the opposite problem from MVP (who's TvP is weak).
So, I don't think Idra was as worried for Bomber as some think, but MC is a whole different batch of unfun for Idra. I can already guess he's going to 1-base cheese him 3 games in a row, which should be good fun.
do you mean idra is going to try to cheese MC because he doesn't think he can beat him in a straight up game? like in dreamhack?
It's a real shame for Bomber I bet he's bummed about it. Things like that really suck especially if he was all ready to go :/ In terms of MLG I guess the group of death just became a hell of a lot more comfortable. There's still plenty of good Terrans including the monster that is MMA so it'll still be a great tournament. Unlucky Bomber
On June 02 2011 14:47 DongWang wrote: I don;t get the hype about bomber tbh. I haven't seen any games, specifically ZVT games that reflect brilliance. If Idra can roll MVP I have no doubt that he could roll bomber.
And the cherry on top was the absolute demolishing bomber got last night, wow did he get steam rolled.
Bomber is extremely good. 4-2 over MVP, beating MMA and Ryung in code A.
Top of korean ELO, crushed whitera 8-2 in a massive series and his win rates are insane. Sure he lost vs Nestea but I'd favour him over any other zerg.
His TvP is self proclaimed to be the best.
Bomber's TvZ is good but not great. It's the TvT and TvP that are scary, scary good. He's got the opposite problem from MVP (who's TvP is weak).
So, I don't think Idra was as worried for Bomber as some think, but MC is a whole different batch of unfun for Idra. I can already guess he's going to 1-base cheese him 3 games in a row, which should be good fun.
The other thing is, we don't know how Bomber is in LAN. Remember, I believe he failed to make the Code A twice. Which we know Code A is insanely hard, but it's also a LAN type event and some players are far better in those situations. So we don't know how Bomber would have done. We know MC can travel & win tournaments, so that's not a question.
Either way, MLG Columbus just took it from 11 to 12. No way around having MC there not upping the tournament's already insane storyline. Sundance's new internet is definitely going to be tested!
lol clearly you dont watch the GSL, bomber qualified for code a last season and preceeded to win the whole thing including taking out MVP in the finals and then won his up and down match and he is now in code s =/. He also won in the round of 64 in the super tournament but was taken out by nestea in the next round.
Dont try and chime in on things you have no idea about
I do, that's why I know everyone was talking about Bomber in ecember*. He didn't qualify until this last time, then murdered his way through it. This isn't a knock against him, but it's still true he didn't make Code A his first run at it. So we haven't seen him in a LAN setting and we have seen MC win several already. This is why oGs sending MC makes a lot of sense (and MLG would want him anyway, plus he's out of the Super Tournament). LAN, Live Team League (winner's stays) and set-map Prepped matches are different beasts. You can't judge how someone is going to do by just their GSL results. He's still awesome, but Bomber is untested in this type of competition, especially with a HUGE travel component.
(You also missed the times I ran the Live Report threads for Code A & Code S )
On June 02 2011 14:47 DongWang wrote: I don;t get the hype about bomber tbh. I haven't seen any games, specifically ZVT games that reflect brilliance. If Idra can roll MVP I have no doubt that he could roll bomber.
And the cherry on top was the absolute demolishing bomber got last night, wow did he get steam rolled.
Bomber is extremely good. 4-2 over MVP, beating MMA and Ryung in code A.
Top of korean ELO, crushed whitera 8-2 in a massive series and his win rates are insane. Sure he lost vs Nestea but I'd favour him over any other zerg.
His TvP is self proclaimed to be the best.
Bomber's TvZ is good but not great. It's the TvT and TvP that are scary, scary good. He's got the opposite problem from MVP (who's TvP is weak).
So, I don't think Idra was as worried for Bomber as some think, but MC is a whole different batch of unfun for Idra. I can already guess he's going to 1-base cheese him 3 games in a row, which should be good fun.
do you mean idra is going to try to cheese MC because he doesn't think he can beat him in a straight up game? like in dreamhack?
Idra is fully capable of beating MC straight up. Idra choosing to do that is a completely separate issue. But that's a really well known deal these days.
Horrible mess up on whoever was in charge of that. From what the translation says, bomber is REALLY upset and the coach or whoever caused the error is also very distraught.
On June 02 2011 14:47 DongWang wrote: I don;t get the hype about bomber tbh. I haven't seen any games, specifically ZVT games that reflect brilliance. If Idra can roll MVP I have no doubt that he could roll bomber.
And the cherry on top was the absolute demolishing bomber got last night, wow did he get steam rolled.
Bomber is extremely good. 4-2 over MVP, beating MMA and Ryung in code A.
Top of korean ELO, crushed whitera 8-2 in a massive series and his win rates are insane. Sure he lost vs Nestea but I'd favour him over any other zerg.
His TvP is self proclaimed to be the best.
Bomber's TvZ is good but not great. It's the TvT and TvP that are scary, scary good. He's got the opposite problem from MVP (who's TvP is weak).
So, I don't think Idra was as worried for Bomber as some think, but MC is a whole different batch of unfun for Idra. I can already guess he's going to 1-base cheese him 3 games in a row, which should be good fun.
do you mean idra is going to try to cheese MC because he doesn't think he can beat him in a straight up game? like in dreamhack?
Idra is fully capable of beating MC straight up. Idra choosing to do that is a completely separate issue. But that's a really well known deal these days.
On June 02 2011 14:47 DongWang wrote: I don;t get the hype about bomber tbh. I haven't seen any games, specifically ZVT games that reflect brilliance. If Idra can roll MVP I have no doubt that he could roll bomber.
And the cherry on top was the absolute demolishing bomber got last night, wow did he get steam rolled.
Bomber is extremely good. 4-2 over MVP, beating MMA and Ryung in code A.
Top of korean ELO, crushed whitera 8-2 in a massive series and his win rates are insane. Sure he lost vs Nestea but I'd favour him over any other zerg.
His TvP is self proclaimed to be the best.
Bomber's TvZ is good but not great. It's the TvT and TvP that are scary, scary good. He's got the opposite problem from MVP (who's TvP is weak).
So, I don't think Idra was as worried for Bomber as some think, but MC is a whole different batch of unfun for Idra. I can already guess he's going to 1-base cheese him 3 games in a row, which should be good fun.
do you mean idra is going to try to cheese MC because he doesn't think he can beat him in a straight up game? like in dreamhack?
Idra is fully capable of beating MC straight up. Idra choosing to do that is a completely separate issue. But that's a really well known deal these days.
idra can't even beat minigun...
He won 2 of EG's matches the week before for the win. You win some and lose some. Idra has a good record of winning a lot and raging when he loses.
The title of the thread should be changed, so many people are only reading it and thinking something like he slept in and missed it. I've heard a lot of "lolol bomber purposely missed his flight because he's afraid to play in mlg" -.-
On June 02 2011 15:11 Serpico wrote: group C almost isn't fair. It's a freaking meat grinder.
Ya it actually frustrates me how stacked that and group B are, while D is by far the easiest. Then again I hate the MLG format all together. It favors the top seeded players far more than it really needs to. I am fine with giving them a bit of an advantage for their consistency... but I think it is just too much... it's really not even fair, especially when getting an "easy" group can launch you to an undeserving 6th place right away? Not a fan.
On June 02 2011 17:09 InstantKarma wrote: I think July deserves Bomber's spot. He won the Clash of the Houses Tourney and earned a trip to Columbus.
I also agree with this. July worked to get his spot, but then again if they did that MC probably wouldn't come. Personally I'd be fine with that, but I'm sure many people would not want that.
Regardless, hopefully all of the foreigners get a nice welcome, especially the koreans. I always love hearing about their response to foreign events.
Sucks that he isn't going to make it to Columbus, but at least he said in his twitter that he already has plans to try and make it to Anaheim instead. That and the fact that this is allowing MC to go and I couldn't be happier, really. I'm so excited to see MC in action this weekend! This was already such a stacked event and this just makes it that much more so.
shame bomber is missing out, would of loved to see him play!!!! But what a massive error not checking or knowing about the passport tilll a few days before leaving...
Man IdrA must be pissed, he's probably prepared for a ZvT the most seeing as Bomber was his first match, and a really tough one too, now suddenly he has to prepare a ZvP against possibly the best protoss in the world. On the other hand it makes for a really epic opening game ^^
On June 02 2011 18:06 LiOn wrote: fail organisation again~~ kinda sad to see this
if by this you mean MLG, you need to get your fact straight before posting. Its not MLG's fault, the fault is on team ST to let something silly like this happen.
On June 02 2011 18:12 Raid wrote: lol idra dodges a bullet
IdrA played on level with Koreans when he was over, and he is miles better now, so it would be a close series like all his matches over there, wtf kind of comment is that.
Personally I think his chance of beating Bomber is higher than beating MC
Okay, so whose fault is it, MLG or Bomber or Startale? I would say that it's MLG fault because they invited him and that means that they have a responsibility for his stay and arrival. Startale which stood in contact with MLG has also a responsibility. Bomber should blame MLG and not his team (who would blame his own team?)
On June 02 2011 18:51 archonOOid wrote: Okay, so whose fault is it, MLG or Bomber or Startale? I would say that it's MLG fault because they invited him and that means that they have a responsibility for his stay and arrival. Startale which stood in contact with MLG has also a responsibility. Bomber should blame MLG and not his team (who would blame his own team?)
As quoted from the OP
"Bomber's passport is a regular passport but he and his team mistook it as an electronic passport, and did not register for proper visa."
Fault totally lies with Bomber and ST for not finding out the difference between electronic and regular passport.
On June 02 2011 18:51 archonOOid wrote: Okay, so whose fault is it, MLG or Bomber or Startale? I would say that it's MLG fault because they invited him and that means that they have a responsibility for his stay and arrival. Startale which stood in contact with MLG has also a responsibility. Bomber should blame MLG and not his team (who would blame his own team?)
It's entirely his and Startale's fault because they didn't apply for the visa thinking they didn't need it. It's sad, but mistakes happen.
I knew it. Go to sleep, wake up and some kind of super sick news has hit. The thing that's so stupid about this that they actually twittered yesterday that they we're going to the airport.
Boom, Losira and Bomber in taxi on the way to airport. Src: http://yfrog.com/h490347222j So that really sucks. Everyone was hyping him up and after watching him play vs Nestea yesterday I must say. His mechanics are rediculously tight. Like out of control crazy good. So was really excited to see him, what arguably will be, an endurance game of sorts. Many days, many matches. He definitely would've had a high chance to do very well. Guess that makes it easy for me though. I'll just gonna be rooting for MMA now <3 saranghae
I think the title should be changed to something like ST.Bomber unable to attend MLG because of visa issues instead of saying he missed a flight because that's not the determining factor.
but seriously, I was looking toward him or losira to take the tourney, this really blows and I'm quite surprised more action wasn't taken to ensure his travel plans were set in stone...
After his game with Nestea Bomber's TvZ in the GSL Supertournament was looking extremely strong vs best Zerg in the world. Such as shame we miss out on Idra v Bomber, but now its a ZvZ v July! Not a horrible consolation ^^
On June 02 2011 18:12 Raid wrote: lol idra dodges a bullet
IdrA played on level with Koreans when he was over, and he is miles better now, so it would be a close series like all his matches over there, wtf kind of comment is that.
Personally I think his chance of beating Bomber is higher than beating MC
There is a fundamental flaw in your statement. Him being miles ahead is superficial. The quality of the players near him have drastically decreased which make it look like he got better, but in fact his skill should have dropped a bit due to the player pool around him.
On June 02 2011 18:51 archonOOid wrote: Okay, so whose fault is it, MLG or Bomber or Startale? I would say that it's MLG fault because they invited him and that means that they have a responsibility for his stay and arrival. Startale which stood in contact with MLG has also a responsibility. Bomber should blame MLG and not his team (who would blame his own team?)
As quoted from the OP
"Bomber's passport is a regular passport but he and his team mistook it as an electronic passport, and did not register for proper visa."
Fault totally lies with Bomber and ST for not finding out the difference between electronic and regular passport.
hmm i think Idra rage would have something to do in that he idra rage about terran and then pay the Customs to prevent him to come at MLG but now he screwed facing of MC hahaha Gracken vs Kratoss hmmmm
On June 02 2011 21:30 GhoSt[shield] wrote: After his game with Nestea Bomber's TvZ in the GSL Supertournament was looking extremely strong vs best Zerg in the world. Such as shame we miss out on Idra v Bomber, but now its a ZvZ v July! Not a horrible consolation ^^
MC replaces bomber and July goes to the Open brackets. How can you not read the OP before you post...
can someone make a slow-mo gif of incontrol on the SOTG podcast the one where he encompasses the camera in his hand moves it around slowly pans out and facepalms? We need that kindve cinematography in here! haha
On June 02 2011 18:12 Raid wrote: lol idra dodges a bullet
IdrA played on level with Koreans when he was over, and he is miles better now, so it would be a close series like all his matches over there, wtf kind of comment is that.
Personally I think his chance of beating Bomber is higher than beating MC
There is a fundamental flaw in your statement. Him being miles ahead is superficial. The quality of the players near him have drastically decreased which make it look like he got better, but in fact his skill should have dropped a bit due to the player pool around him.
On June 02 2011 18:51 archonOOid wrote: Okay, so whose fault is it, MLG or Bomber or Startale? I would say that it's MLG fault because they invited him and that means that they have a responsibility for his stay and arrival. Startale which stood in contact with MLG has also a responsibility. Bomber should blame MLG and not his team (who would blame his own team?)
As quoted from the OP
"Bomber's passport is a regular passport but he and his team mistook it as an electronic passport, and did not register for proper visa."
Fault totally lies with Bomber and ST for not finding out the difference between electronic and regular passport.
Or the US embassy worker screw-up
Yep, clearly it's America's fault when someone doesn't know the difference between a "proper visa" and an "electronic passport".
Late last night, MLG was informed that Startale Bomber, one of the Korean pro players invited as part of the GSL/MLG League Exchange, would not be able to make his flight because of emigration problems he encountered while at the airport in Seoul. We are very sorry that Bomber will not be joining us in Columbus, and we are working to resolve the issue so that he can attend future Pro Circuit Events.
To fill the spot Bomber's absence has created in the roster and the Pools, MLG reached out to a player who we believed would be a spectacular addition to MLG Columbus, and we are very happy to announce that he, and his team, have accepted the offer. Attending in Bomber's place will be none other than oGsMC.
We share your disappointment that Bomber will not be attending, and we are greatly looking forward to his participation in future Pro Circuit Events. At the same time, we could not have asked for a better participant than MC. We'd like to thank him and all of oGs for agreeing to our offer on such short notice. MC will be taking Bomber's spot in Pool C; all schedules on the site will be updated to reflect this before the start of the Tournament on Friday.
I'm super disappointed that Bomber can't make it. We spent quite a while last night working with GSL and our contacts in Korea trying to find a way to get Bomber his exit visa. As I understand the issue, Bomber has an older passport which requires a paper application (as opposed to an electronic application) for an EXIT visa from the S. Korean government (NOTE: Not the US Gov't). Unfortunately, it takes 7 days to get this processed which is just too late for the event.
We're working to make sure that Bomber can come to a future MLG event and hope to welcome him soon.
God damnit. I saw this thread and had a clever "we'll he's st.bomber, no wonder airplane security stopped him." and then I spotted the response two posts above.
That sucks tho, but I feel that my heroes will do better now; Idra, MC and so on. Destiny, ait?
On June 03 2011 00:38 svefnleysi wrote: How does Bomber miss his flight but they still have time to send a replacement for him from Korea?
i guess you didnt read OP. They dont have time to make a proper Visa to get Bomber in Colombus in time so MC (already has a proper visa) takes his place.
Can someone explain this visa stuff that keeps preventing players from going to tournaments? Do you have to go through some bureaucracy if you're intending to make money in some countries or.. what?
man, I was SO SO SO looking forward to him being there, this is devastating news! seriously, ANYONE but Bomber!!!
MLG is dead to me now. Food will be as ash upon my tongue...
I don't know why but this made me laugh too hard.
Am I an evil person for being glad this happened, I have more invested in MC as a player from watching his games than in bomber so I would rather see him play.
On June 03 2011 00:50 vyyye wrote: Can someone explain this visa stuff that keeps preventing players from going to tournaments? Do you have to go through some bureaucracy if you're intending to make money in some countries or.. what?
Seems like such a stupid thing to miss.
I went to Miami last year from Europe, you have to make an online declaration (I guess he's done this) and have a biometric passport. I guess he had an old passport, non biometric, and didn't think to verify if this was allowed. And it isn't. And USA is not taking those things lightly, it's not like he can talk his way to USA explaining he made a mistake.edt : t clarify I don't think it's a visa issue as Korea should be like Shengen's Europe (=no need of a visa if you're going for tourist purpose)
The MLG Columbus Preview is genius. =) I love the section on Idra
Imagine you're IdrA. You are playing Startale's Bomber in the first broadcast match of MLG, on stage, in front of a huge crowd. You're practicing hard for this match and you're going to show your best stuff. Bomber is really skilled, but you're confident in your ZvT and ZvZ. You just hate Protoss because they are imbalanced. But a day or so before the match, you find out Bomber missed his flight. That's not so bad, it'll be a walkover or someone from the Open Bracket, both options way better than playing against Bomber.
Then the day of the tournament you walk into the venue and sit down to play some warmups in the booth. You look over and there's already someone in the other booth. He looks Korean. Dde? SeleCT? Who is it? You walk out of your booth and over to the other one. You open the door. "Hello?"
The chair slowly turns around. You see his face, but it can't be. He's not supposed to be here. Not him. Not a Protoss. Not THAT Protoss.
Imagine you're IdrA. You are playing Startale's Bomber in the first broadcast match of MLG, on stage, in front of a huge crowd. You're practicing hard for this match and you're going to show your best stuff. Bomber is really skilled, but you're confident in your ZvT and ZvZ. You just hate Protoss because they are imbalanced. But a day or so before the match, you find out Bomber missed his flight. That's not so bad, it'll be a walkover or someone from the Open Bracket, both options way better than playing against Bomber.
Then the day of the tournament you walk into the venue and sit down to play some warmups in the booth. You look over and there's already someone in the other booth. He looks Korean. Dde? SeleCT? Who is it? You walk out of your booth and over to the other one. You open the door. "Hello?"
The chair slowly turns around. You see his face, but it can't be. He's not supposed to be here. Not him. Not a Protoss. Not THAT Protoss.
MC says, "Hi Greg, long time no see."
You back slowly out of the booth.
But you can't. It's already forcefielded.
LMAO.
It could be worse, it could be BoxeR saying, "Allo Grack."
Imagine you're IdrA. You are playing Startale's Bomber in the first broadcast match of MLG, on stage, in front of a huge crowd. You're practicing hard for this match and you're going to show your best stuff. Bomber is really skilled, but you're confident in your ZvT and ZvZ. You just hate Protoss because they are imbalanced. But a day or so before the match, you find out Bomber missed his flight. That's not so bad, it'll be a walkover or someone from the Open Bracket, both options way better than playing against Bomber.
Then the day of the tournament you walk into the venue and sit down to play some warmups in the booth. You look over and there's already someone in the other booth. He looks Korean. Dde? SeleCT? Who is it? You walk out of your booth and over to the other one. You open the door. "Hello?"
The chair slowly turns around. You see his face, but it can't be. He's not supposed to be here. Not him. Not a Protoss. Not THAT Protoss.
MC says, "Hi Greg, long time no see."
You back slowly out of the booth.
But you can't. It's already forcefielded.
That's excellent ! It's on the MLG website ? edit : nope, it's here :D I missed it ^^
Imagine you're IdrA. You are playing Startale's Bomber in the first broadcast match of MLG, on stage, in front of a huge crowd. You're practicing hard for this match and you're going to show your best stuff. Bomber is really skilled, but you're confident in your ZvT and ZvZ. You just hate Protoss because they are imbalanced. But a day or so before the match, you find out Bomber missed his flight. That's not so bad, it'll be a walkover or someone from the Open Bracket, both options way better than playing against Bomber.
Then the day of the tournament you walk into the venue and sit down to play some warmups in the booth. You look over and there's already someone in the other booth. He looks Korean. Dde? SeleCT? Who is it? You walk out of your booth and over to the other one. You open the door. "Hello?"
The chair slowly turns around. You see his face, but it can't be. He's not supposed to be here. Not him. Not a Protoss. Not THAT Protoss.
Imagine you're IdrA. You are playing Startale's Bomber in the first broadcast match of MLG, on stage, in front of a huge crowd. You're practicing hard for this match and you're going to show your best stuff. Bomber is really skilled, but you're confident in your ZvT and ZvZ. You just hate Protoss because they are imbalanced. But a day or so before the match, you find out Bomber missed his flight. That's not so bad, it'll be a walkover or someone from the Open Bracket, both options way better than playing against Bomber.
Then the day of the tournament you walk into the venue and sit down to play some warmups in the booth. You look over and there's already someone in the other booth. He looks Korean. Dde? SeleCT? Who is it? You walk out of your booth and over to the other one. You open the door. "Hello?"
The chair slowly turns around. You see his face, but it can't be. He's not supposed to be here. Not him. Not a Protoss. Not THAT Protoss.
Imagine you're IdrA. You are playing Startale's Bomber in the first broadcast match of MLG, on stage, in front of a huge crowd. You're practicing hard for this match and you're going to show your best stuff. Bomber is really skilled, but you're confident in your ZvT and ZvZ. You just hate Protoss because they are imbalanced. But a day or so before the match, you find out Bomber missed his flight. That's not so bad, it'll be a walkover or someone from the Open Bracket, both options way better than playing against Bomber.
Then the day of the tournament you walk into the venue and sit down to play some warmups in the booth. You look over and there's already someone in the other booth. He looks Korean. Dde? SeleCT? Who is it? You walk out of your booth and over to the other one. You open the door. "Hello?"
The chair slowly turns around. You see his face, but it can't be. He's not supposed to be here. Not him. Not a Protoss. Not THAT Protoss.
Imagine you're IdrA. You are playing Startale's Bomber in the first broadcast match of MLG, on stage, in front of a huge crowd. You're practicing hard for this match and you're going to show your best stuff. Bomber is really skilled, but you're confident in your ZvT and ZvZ. You just hate Protoss because they are imbalanced. But a day or so before the match, you find out Bomber missed his flight. That's not so bad, it'll be a walkover or someone from the Open Bracket, both options way better than playing against Bomber.
Then the day of the tournament you walk into the venue and sit down to play some warmups in the booth. You look over and there's already someone in the other booth. He looks Korean. Dde? SeleCT? Who is it? You walk out of your booth and over to the other one. You open the door. "Hello?"
The chair slowly turns around. You see his face, but it can't be. He's not supposed to be here. Not him. Not a Protoss. Not THAT Protoss.
Sad day Happy that MC (!!!!!!) is taking his place though. Walkover? Thats prolly what idra thought. But hes now furiously banging his head on a xelnaga watchtower. Will the gracken crawl back into his cave with his tail between his legs?
On June 03 2011 02:24 Soto wrote: good thing I ahvetn bought my pass yet... think ill save some dollars this week-end, Bomber was teh main attraction to me.
lol. Yeah you better hold on to that $10.00 because MC,Idra, iNcontrol, TLO, MMA, Losira, Thorzain, Ret, Morrow, Naniwa, etc. all in one tournament casted by Day9 and Tastosis on 2 simultaneous streams is definitely not worth the HUGE expenditure but Bomber definitely was.
On June 03 2011 00:38 svefnleysi wrote: How does Bomber miss his flight but they still have time to send a replacement for him from Korea?
I guess "misses his flight" is a poor choice of words for a passport/visa issue.
True. It makes it sound like Home Alone where he realizes all his brothers and sisters are gone and they don't realize they're missing him until they are already in the air
Imagine you're IdrA. You are playing Startale's Bomber in the first broadcast match of MLG, on stage, in front of a huge crowd. You're practicing hard for this match and you're going to show your best stuff. Bomber is really skilled, but you're confident in your ZvT and ZvZ. You just hate Protoss because they are imbalanced. But a day or so before the match, you find out Bomber missed his flight. That's not so bad, it'll be a walkover or someone from the Open Bracket, both options way better than playing against Bomber.
Then the day of the tournament you walk into the venue and sit down to play some warmups in the booth. You look over and there's already someone in the other booth. He looks Korean. Dde? SeleCT? Who is it? You walk out of your booth and over to the other one. You open the door. "Hello?"
The chair slowly turns around. You see his face, but it can't be. He's not supposed to be here. Not him. Not a Protoss. Not THAT Protoss.
Imagine you're IdrA. You are playing Startale's Bomber in the first broadcast match of MLG, on stage, in front of a huge crowd. You're practicing hard for this match and you're going to show your best stuff. Bomber is really skilled, but you're confident in your ZvT and ZvZ. You just hate Protoss because they are imbalanced. But a day or so before the match, you find out Bomber missed his flight. That's not so bad, it'll be a walkover or someone from the Open Bracket, both options way better than playing against Bomber.
Then the day of the tournament you walk into the venue and sit down to play some warmups in the booth. You look over and there's already someone in the other booth. He looks Korean. Dde? SeleCT? Who is it? You walk out of your booth and over to the other one. You open the door. "Hello?"
The chair slowly turns around. You see his face, but it can't be. He's not supposed to be here. Not him. Not a Protoss. Not THAT Protoss.
MC says, "Hi Greg, long time no see."
You back slowly out of the booth.
But you can't. It's already forcefielded.
made me laugh so hard :D I wish MC comes and rolls over everyone :D
MC and July will "ROFL Stomp" through the tourney imo and losing bomber isn't a big loss. Maybe for his fans i guess. I'd rather see bomber than MC and July any day though in an MLG event
Is there a reason this thread has a misleading/anger-inducing title btw? He didn't "miss" his flight like this implies, he didn't have a Visa. Sigh, sensationalism.
I don't know if it was posted already, nor if anyone cares, but heres the exact translation of the 2 twitter posts in @StarTale_SC2 related to the issue, by Won jongwook (I think it's their coach):
오늘 최지성선수가 MLG 콜럼버스행 비행기를 못탔습니다. 모두다 제 잘못입니다. 너무속상하고 지성이한테 미안하네요. 아쉽지만 다음달 애너하임대회때 출전시킬계획입니다. 최지성선수를 응원해주시는 팬분들께도 죄송하단말씀드립니다. Today Choi Jisung (Bomber) was not able to go to the MLG Columbus. It is all my fault. I'm really disappointed, and I feel sorry for him. It's unfortunate but we intend to send him over to the Aneheim Tournament next month. I apologise for the fans out there rooting for Bomber.
차후엔 오늘같은 착오없도록 하겠습니다. 비난은 저에게하시고 누구보다 속상할 최지성선수 에게 많은 격려 부탁드립니다. There won't be these kind of mistakes in the future. Please blame only me for this situation, and cheer for Bomber, who's the one most upset about this.
I have no knowledge about this Anaheim Tournament he's speaking of. Does any of you know?
On June 03 2011 08:31 nokz88 wrote: I don't know if it was posted already, nor if anyone cares, but heres the exact translation of the 2 twitter posts in @StarTale_SC2 related to the issue, by Won jongwook (I think it's their coach):
오늘 최지성선수가 MLG 콜럼버스행 비행기를 못탔습니다. 모두다 제 잘못입니다. 너무속상하고 지성이한테 미안하네요. 아쉽지만 다음달 애너하임대회때 출전시킬계획입니다. 최지성선수를 응원해주시는 팬분들께도 죄송하단말씀드립니다. Today Choi Jisung (Bomber) was not able to go to the MLG Columbus. It is all my fault. I'm really disappointed, and I feel sorry for him. It's unfortunate but we intend to send him over to the Aneheim Tournament next month. I apologise for the fans out there rooting for Bomber.
차후엔 오늘같은 착오없도록 하겠습니다. 비난은 저에게하시고 누구보다 속상할 최지성선수 에게 많은 격려 부탁드립니다. There won't be these kind of mistakes in the future. Please blame only me for this situation, and cheer for Bomber, who's the one most upset about this.
I have no knowledge about this Anaheim Tournament he's speaking of. Does any of you know?
He is talking about MLG Anaheim, the next MLG after Columbus.
On June 03 2011 08:31 nokz88 wrote: I don't know if it was posted already, nor if anyone cares, but heres the exact translation of the 2 twitter posts in @StarTale_SC2 related to the issue, by Won jongwook (I think it's their coach):
오늘 최지성선수가 MLG 콜럼버스행 비행기를 못탔습니다. 모두다 제 잘못입니다. 너무속상하고 지성이한테 미안하네요. 아쉽지만 다음달 애너하임대회때 출전시킬계획입니다. 최지성선수를 응원해주시는 팬분들께도 죄송하단말씀드립니다. Today Choi Jisung (Bomber) was not able to go to the MLG Columbus. It is all my fault. I'm really disappointed, and I feel sorry for him. It's unfortunate but we intend to send him over to the Aneheim Tournament next month. I apologise for the fans out there rooting for Bomber.
차후엔 오늘같은 착오없도록 하겠습니다. 비난은 저에게하시고 누구보다 속상할 최지성선수 에게 많은 격려 부탁드립니다. There won't be these kind of mistakes in the future. Please blame only me for this situation, and cheer for Bomber, who's the one most upset about this.
I have no knowledge about this Anaheim Tournament he's speaking of. Does any of you know?
On June 03 2011 08:31 nokz88 wrote: I don't know if it was posted already, nor if anyone cares, but heres the exact translation of the 2 twitter posts in @StarTale_SC2 related to the issue, by Won jongwook (I think it's their coach):
오늘 최지성선수가 MLG 콜럼버스행 비행기를 못탔습니다. 모두다 제 잘못입니다. 너무속상하고 지성이한테 미안하네요. 아쉽지만 다음달 애너하임대회때 출전시킬계획입니다. 최지성선수를 응원해주시는 팬분들께도 죄송하단말씀드립니다. Today Choi Jisung (Bomber) was not able to go to the MLG Columbus. It is all my fault. I'm really disappointed, and I feel sorry for him. It's unfortunate but we intend to send him over to the Aneheim Tournament next month. I apologise for the fans out there rooting for Bomber.
차후엔 오늘같은 착오없도록 하겠습니다. 비난은 저에게하시고 누구보다 속상할 최지성선수 에게 많은 격려 부탁드립니다. There won't be these kind of mistakes in the future. Please blame only me for this situation, and cheer for Bomber, who's the one most upset about this.
I have no knowledge about this Anaheim Tournament he's speaking of. Does any of you know?
I wonder if he'll have to go through the open bracket at Aneheim or get seeding in a group.
On June 03 2011 09:27 PurpleBebop wrote: That's too bad, he is by far my favorite Korean Terran player. At least Idra has a shot of winning his first match now.
dont count MC out yet, he's been regarded as a top toss in korea for a while. I expect him to place very highly, if not win, despite his liking of aggressive warp gate builds.
I thought regular passports were fine so long as they were machine readable (pinhole code at the bottom of the passport paper)? Travelling to the USA is so confusing these days.
On June 03 2011 18:11 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: I thought regular passports were fine so long as they were machine readable? Travelling to the USA is so confusing these days.
Not registering the proper visa was the problem i think. Not the type of his passport.
OK but if you have an electronic passport does this mean you don't need to register for a visa? Maybe there is something lost here in the translation but if the normal passport had nothing to do with the issue then why mention it.
Bomber's passport is a regular passport but he and his team mistook it as an electronic passport, and did not register for proper visa.
Sadface, i was looking forward to seeing how he could perform in this event, very good alround player which is what's required to do well at an event like MLG.
really sucks, i would have loved to see him vs idra.
edit:
On June 03 2011 18:30 AlphaWhale wrote: Has anybody thought he may have been denied flight privileges due to his ID? You can never be too careful these days.
So you can only get a visa/get in to the US with e-passport.
Weird, because I do know quite a number of people who goes in-out of the US regularly, and they do have biometric-passports. However, everyone seems to have a printed version i.e. you still need to go through the normal process at the embassy that takes forever. I don't know about americans coming out, but for people going 'in', it seems to always be a printed one as I see. Biometric or not, that was sloppy on the manager part counting on a gamer to know about international emigrations.
Edit: as I understand, the electronics part of the passport for most countries does not goes beyond storing identification data. Visas haven't changed at all.
Also, Bomber is quite young, which means that passports issued for someone with his age should already be an ePassport, I don't think that was the source of the problem. Did he even started the registration process at all?
So you can only get a visa/get in to the US with e-passport.
Weird, because I do know quite a number of people who goes in-out of the US regularly, and they do have biometric-passports. However, everyone seems to have a printed version i.e. you still need to go through the normal process at the embassy that takes forever. I don't know about americans coming out, but for people going 'in', it seems to always be a printed one as I see. Biometric or not, that was sloppy on the manager part counting on a gamer to know about international emigrations.
Edit: as I understand, the electronics part of the passport for most countries does not goes beyond storing identification data. Visas haven't changed at all.
Also, Bomber is quite young, which means that passports issued for someone with his age should already be an ePassport, I don't think that was the source of the problem. Did he even started the registration process at all?
As I understand it, to get into the US on the visa waiver program, you need a biometric passport if your passport was issued after October 2006. I'm assuming he has a passport that was issued after that date that is machine readable but is not biometric. That means he would need a visa to enter.
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ecember*. He didn't qualify until this last time, then murdered his way through it. This isn't a knock against him, but it's still true he didn't make Code A his first run at it. So we haven't seen him in a LAN setting and we have seen MC win several already. This is why oGs sending MC makes a lot of sense (and MLG would want him anyway, plus he's out of the Super Tournament). LAN, Live Team League (winner's stays) and set-map Prepped matches are different beasts. You can't judge how someone is going to do by just their GSL results. He's still awesome, but Bomber is untested in this type of competition, especially with a HUGE travel component.![[image loading]](http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg616/scaled.php?tn=0&server=616&filename=90347222.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
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