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On May 29 2011 22:39 Lennon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 22:22 Garnet wrote:
Many WC3 players are doing so well yet Grubby isn't. It's weird to me that players on the same level as him in WC3, e.g. Moon and Lyn, are much more successful in SC2. What's even more weird is that Naniwa, who would get completely dominated by Grubby in WC3, would now dominate Grubby in SC2. How have the tables turned so dramatically?
Also rememeber that he started out waaaay later than any of the current ex-Wc3 pros who're on the top did.
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He 2-0'd Demuslim, Tarson and Nerchio in a recent ESL event. That's not to say his NASL results haven't been disappointing, but it's not like he's not accomplishing anything at all...
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I consider the criticisms Grubby receives for his NASL performance are almost good for him as they will make it look even more impressive when he puts in a good performance at a LAN event.
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Give us a break, he`s almost zero in SC2 tourneys. I really don`t understand all this fus about Grubby, compared to other players that switched to SC2.
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How about you list his sc2 achievements being as it is an sc2 forum an all...
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On May 30 2011 09:32 Stijn wrote:
He 2-0'd Demuslim, Tarson and Nerchio in a recent ESL event. That's not to say his NASL results haven't been disappointing, but it's not like he's not accomplishing anything at all...
He also took third in the Copenhagen LAN over players like MorroW.
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On May 30 2011 00:33 LittLeD wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 22:39 Lennon wrote:On May 29 2011 22:22 Garnet wrote:
Many WC3 players are doing so well yet Grubby isn't. It's weird to me that players on the same level as him in WC3, e.g. Moon and Lyn, are much more successful in SC2. What's even more weird is that Naniwa, who would get completely dominated by Grubby in WC3, would now dominate Grubby in SC2. How have the tables turned so dramatically? Also rememeber that he started out waaaay later than any of the current ex-Wc3 pros who're on the top did.
Lyn and Moon were also taught by MakaPrime aka Townhall who was already well into the Korean metagame from his success in GSL.
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On June 03 2011 01:42 Holcan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2011 00:33 LittLeD wrote:On May 29 2011 22:39 Lennon wrote:On May 29 2011 22:22 Garnet wrote:
Many WC3 players are doing so well yet Grubby isn't. It's weird to me that players on the same level as him in WC3, e.g. Moon and Lyn, are much more successful in SC2. What's even more weird is that Naniwa, who would get completely dominated by Grubby in WC3, would now dominate Grubby in SC2. How have the tables turned so dramatically? Also rememeber that he started out waaaay later than any of the current ex-Wc3 pros who're on the top did. Lyn and Moon were also taught by MakaPrime aka Townhall who was already well into the Korean metagame from his success in GSL.
Maka is Townhall :O? How the hell can I not know that ;>.
Also to all the critics, to the LANs that he showed up at, he does decently.
His NASL performance is not that great, but he has a lot of 1-2's, while they are still losses, don't blame him on just that. I get the feeling that because he hasn't played a lot of tournaments yet, people just rate him for his NASL performance because it's a big league.
He's been doing decent in ESL Euro cups so yeah, Grubby fighting  !
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i have faith in the grubster.
grubby atm has flaws in his game but he practices a lot so those flaws will soon be ironed out.
also he is very very innovative which makes him very dangerous
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I hate you. All you fanboys, I hate all of you Grubby fanboys. Every thread with Grubby games in it is just like "give him more time", "wait for him to get used to SC2" etc. It sounds like he just picked up the game, whereas he is playing since 10 months now. Get it over with.
But then, I am becoming a Grubby-fanboy myself! At first I disliked him because he is A) Dutch (German dibs, sorry) and B) an ex-WC3-player (BW dibs, sorry), but the more I see of him the more I cheer for him. Leaving EG gave him a gazillon sympathy-points from me, and after his cool, intelligent, funny and well-spoken commentary at the Copenhagen Games, I totally fell for him. Plus, I like his unorthodox playstyle, which is most present in base-trade situations, when he forces his opponent to fail at multitasking properly. Go Grubby! :D
On May 29 2011 23:37 Greem wrote:
Naniwa showing some intelligent reply, i wonder what's your accomplishments in WC3 to troll like this ?
I wonder what WarCraft3 tournament results have to do with the eligibilty for commenting on a play schedule.
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Grubby's a laughing stock right now. He needs to step is game up. From what I've observed, his macro and overall strategy are his biggest weaknesses.
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I have a lot of respect for Grubby: picks Orcs, then picks Protoss.
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On May 29 2011 22:22 Garnet wrote:
Many WC3 players are doing so well yet Grubby isn't.
Which many wc3 players are doing so well? Moon is average. I don't remember Lyn's results but I doubt it is all that amazing. I'd say he is the weakest of the best wc3 players that have switched to sc2 but I wouldn't say the others are doing amazingly well.
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Sometimes he shows some great things and then end up losing anyway 
bad decision and poor army management most of the time.
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On June 03 2011 02:22 zere wrote:I hate you. All you fanboys, I hate all of you Grubby fanboys. Every thread with Grubby games in it is just like "give him more time", "wait for him to get used to SC2" etc. It sounds like he just picked up the game, whereas he is playing since 10 months now. Get it over with. But then, I am becoming a Grubby-fanboy myself! At first I disliked him because he is A) Dutch (German dibs, sorry) and B) an ex-WC3-player (BW dibs, sorry), but the more I see of him the more I cheer for him. Leaving EG gave him a gazillon sympathy-points from me, and after his cool, intelligent, funny and well-spoken commentary at the Copenhagen Games, I totally fell for him. Plus, I like his unorthodox playstyle, which is most present in base-trade situations, when he forces his opponent to fail at multitasking properly. Go Grubby! :D Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 23:37 Greem wrote:
Naniwa showing some intelligent reply, i wonder what's your accomplishments in WC3 to troll like this ? I wonder what WarCraft3 tournament results have to do with the eligibilty for commenting on a play schedule.
welcome in the club )
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On June 03 2011 03:46 Sumwar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 22:22 Garnet wrote:
Many WC3 players are doing so well yet Grubby isn't. Which many wc3 players are doing so well? Moon is average. I don't remember Lyn's results but I doubt it is all that amazing. I'd say he is the weakest of the best wc3 players that have switched to sc2 but I wouldn't say the others are doing amazingly well.
ThorZaIN, Kas, Naniwa, KiWiKaKi are the big 4. I can think of dozens of others who are close.
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Someone should summarize the Grubby-Moon rivalry. Apparently a lot of Korean tears were shed over not being able to win WC3 tourneys or something but I don't know the story at all.
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On May 29 2011 21:17 Naniwa wrote:cool story bro
Wasn't orc WIDELY regarded as the weakest race for years, I recall grubby taking out moon in wcg2004 (Dont quote me) Where he surrounded moons DH with 4 grunts, wasn't that when NE were so imba .. it was starting to ruin wc3?
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sc2 forum but lets live in the past 2004 baby!!!! rock out...
bottom line is grubby achievements = cool story bro
when ya gonna do something lately? This more time excuse is getting old... EG gave up on him..10 months and still gaping holes in his game.
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