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Bleak Turkey3059 Posts July 20 2011 19:13 GMT #341 What I'm affected by is not actually fear, but sort of like getting into mood. Playing 3-4 games most of the time mentally exhausts me, especially after long games. Also, I try to play only early in the day if I can. Add the fact that I am on a diet and have a ton of stuff to eat every day (light snacks) which means I have to plan my day around that, it just feels like watching the game feels much more easier than playing. I'm trying to get around it tho.

Koillette 56 Posts July 20 2011 19:17 GMT #342 I have the flip side of this. I'm scared of 2v2 3v3 4v4. I'm a crappy gold players and all my friends are like diamond 1v1 then all masters and i feel like im letting them down when i play with them so i would much rather play 1v1 where i can not feel like im letting them down but rather get a better personal understanding of what to do.

Rinnegan5 Netherlands319 Posts July 20 2011 19:22 GMT #343 Buy a smurf account! easy enough. And making this game even more casual then it is just hurts my eyes...gtfo if you cant handle it. Casuals allready ruined WoW.

isospeedrix United States215 Posts July 20 2011 19:26 GMT #344 The fear isn't the stats, it's the process of actually losing.

freetgy 1720 Posts July 20 2011 19:27 GMT #345 some people take this game way to serious... fear of ladder? holy... what funny is that beeing forced to play equal skilled players is what makes the whole ladder system work. if you don't want to see points, don't look at the points, period. it just a e-peen thing.

Treva United States535 Posts July 20 2011 19:29 GMT #346 Finding a fix besides getting a new account would be difficult. Some people don't ladder because they don't want to ruin their W/L. Others don't want to get demoted or lose ranking. Another group just don't like the stress that comes with a ladder game. There are many reasons why people don't ladder so finding a universal solution would be hard. I honestly think that hiding the losses was a good idea but I don't know how much further you can go before people start getting frustrated with how it is designed, especially when a lot of people have expressed their disapproval of the hide losses change. Your idea of having people have MMR but not have points or be in a division would be interesting but Blizzard would have to create an entirely separate ladder system that I honestly don't think a whole bunch of people would use simply because people like to have a way to track their progress and/or know where they stand in relation to friends/clan mates/everyone else.

Kaitokid Germany1327 Posts July 20 2011 19:29 GMT #347 just always remember that no matter how many games you lose your win% will always be around 50%, so don't worry, you will lose a lot while laddering but you will also win many games GLHF playing ladder

stk01001 United States786 Posts July 20 2011 19:35 GMT #348 honestly I don't see what else blizzard can do to alleviate "ladder fear" as you call it. They have SEVEN different tiers of leagues to make sure your matched against people of the same skill level. They ELIMINATED losses completely for diamond and under. Also, there is a mode that allows you to turn off ladder ranking.. it's called custom games. I mean what do you want blizzard to hold your hand while your playing too?? I'm really sick of these threads.. if your still afraid to play despite all this maybe SC2 isn't the right game for you..

lazydino Canada331 Posts July 20 2011 19:37 GMT #349 As long as it's not hurting ESPORTS, I'm cool with that.

Executor1 1353 Posts July 20 2011 19:37 GMT #350 A few of my friends have ladder fear, i see them as insecure though (not just because of starcraft) Like one of my friends always talks about builds hes going to use to pwn people and how he could be in platinum if he laddered etc. But he has ladder fear and he never ladders, im pretty sure his fear is that he is not as good as he thinks he is and he will get stuck in bronze (like he was last season) and for some reason he thinks that his friends wiill think less of him (he wont) because he claims to be alot better than that. Its rather pathetic but i know at least 3 people that are like this, I have 3 accounts and i really dont care too much about my ladder rank on any of them (i care more about it on one of them then the others) alot of times if ive played too many pvp's in a row ill just leave one without even playing thats how little i care, ive even got demoted from doing that too much before lol. I just dont understand this whole ladder fear thing it actually really kind of pisses me off.

Skaya United States126 Posts July 20 2011 19:41 GMT #351 what i don't get is how this ladder fear is only now coming out. no one ever even thought about talking about ladder fear in wc3. ladder fear sounds like an excuse to me, starcraft is a game, you shouldn't play games that make you frightened. in the end there is no "fix" to ladder fear on blizzards' side, they've already done all they can beyond making the ladder system meaningless. the burden lay on the people too scared to play. you don't skydive out of a plane flying 20 feet above the ground because you're afraid of heights. iono that's my take.

edc United States666 Posts July 20 2011 19:46 GMT #352 I understand why people are nervous before a game starts, but being scared to play a computer game for the fear of losing is ridiculous.

-Switch- Canada506 Posts July 20 2011 19:46 GMT #353 Ladder system is fine. Do not touch it imo

All.In United States214 Posts July 20 2011 19:55 GMT #354 Ladder fear isn't really hurting sc2 it just hurt the players that is scared. I know some people that are scared to ladder. I think the losses not being shown was an attempt to help but I think it is a personality issue more then anything. Some people got what it takes some don't.

Capped United Kingdom7236 Posts July 20 2011 19:59 GMT #355 I am one who has suffered with "ladder fear" over the course of several games, didnt want to play ranked matches in aoe3 / exp's because o noes i just ranked up to Colonel i might drop down again Cant play SC2 ladder, i might lose ranking and have a ragefit for no fucking reason!! (seriously, i do this. Although 95% not at my opponents, more my pillow XD) after losing one game >.< And what do i do? I suck it up, spend a night watching streams, get pumped, go kick ass or vice versa. Rinse and repeat. No need to find a solution for peoples issues.

Novalisk Israel1818 Posts July 20 2011 19:59 GMT #356 The thing about SC2 is, you don't even need to ladder to enjoy the game. You have custom maps, single player, and you can enjoy watching other people play. So even if less people are laddering, the game still sells.

Lorch Germany3711 Posts July 20 2011 20:04 GMT #357 Ladder fear? I don't really have that, might be something wrong with me, and I came to this game with 7 years of competitive console playing and zero RTS expirience, so I fucking sucked when I started playing and got into bronze, but instead of a fear of laddering | actually do enjoy it and the process of getting better.

FrayzZeUsher United States225 Posts July 20 2011 20:06 GMT #358 i play 25-45 ladder games a day, I never get nervous, or sad when losing or happy when winning.

DavidLindley United States84 Posts July 20 2011 20:15 GMT #359 I used to really think this was true, as I suffered a lot from this "ladder fear" however after playing many more games I think I have gotten over it pretty well. The more you play the less fear you will have, it's all about getting the experience to be confident in your play.

fds Slovenia258 Posts July 20 2011 20:29 GMT #360 just buy 2nd account for fun/practice. don't tell anyone that you have it. hf! p.s.: maybe blizzard should remove bonus pool to counter ladder fear!

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