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people who are complaining about 18 over thing
heres why it HAS to implemented
1) when under 18 you are most likely under high influence from parents how much you play
2) you have to worry about silly things like high school(you can get away with alot in university)
3) i dont believe most under 18 year olds can make this type of commitment(or should, you shouldnt ruin your chance @ a good university for a video game(SC1 is a different story so dont bother arguing that)
4)once 18 you are not bound by parents pretty much, if you a transffered to a gaming house you can do it without concent
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I fail to see how the next big thing must be under 18. Proponents of this ignore the many great players who became great after they were 18, there are quite a few brood war players who didn't become great until they were 18 or older, they are just ignored because people focus on progamers like Baby and Flash who were successful at a young age. I will be applying, but am waiting until after Columbus to submit my application, hoping I show good results there that might weigh in  . Also I wonder if pros on teams will apply for this, I don't see anything that says they can't, and it might be a better deal than their current teams are offering.
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On May 27 2011 09:19 Newguy wrote:
Also I wonder if pros on teams will apply for this, I don't see anything that says they can't, and it might be a better deal than their current teams are offering.
As long as those players aren't under a contractual obligation to those teams, they are welcome to apply.
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This is EPIC.
Such an incredible project
Ty complexity, community will absolutely grow with this initiative.
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fuck man, this makes me want to be masters+ and 18+
long way from gold to be that good Guess i just gotta keep chuggin along...eventually i'll get there
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DAMN, i thought this was really cool besides the youtube video part but was going to do it anyway but cant cause im not 18  and only 3 months b4 my 18th birthday in august
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On May 27 2011 09:45 Deception-35 wrote:DAMN, i thought this was really cool besides the youtube video part but was going to do it anyway but cant cause im not 18 and only 3 months b4 my 18th birthday in august
This won't be the only chance you will have, you should be eligible by the first open tournament.
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Awesome (: Just got done recording my app. Now to find some replays.
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The 18 thing is kind of a bummer, esp considering most pros got their start before they were 18. I mean most were like 15-17 when they got started and they got good around 17 really. Ahh well, I get the legality issues etc, just makes me sad
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bump for epic initiative! want as many players to see this as possible
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The title is a bit misleading ,for some reason I thought it was another coaching project ( so many of them recently). It's really a great initiative, I hope we will have some serious players applying for this.
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i disagree with the choice of only looking on NA server. Has been said a lot of time, a lot of player on NA but the level is a BIT under EU skill wise.
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On May 27 2011 08:47 coLtwixz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2011 06:17 StephenS wrote:So i just make my video, and make an account on your website and post the video here: http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/2766/#??? and i don't have a webcam, so i figure whilst answering the questions (via my microphone) i will have my screen being streamed into the video to prove i am who i say i am on the ladder? It would be preferable if you could get in touch with a friend who might have one, or use a phone cam etc..But yes just make an account on the site if you do not already have one and post the link to the video along with the other things for the application.
i can throw in a picture of myself, if you would like? but honestly i know no one with a webcam ><
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Mana is 17 and hes a damn good player on mousesports right? creatorprime is 14 and hes in gsl code A right?
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On May 28 2011 06:05 Drizzt3 wrote:
Mana is 17 and hes a damn good player on mousesports right? creatorprime is 14 and hes in gsl code A right?
and...? What % of players do you think are under the age of 18? Considering that you're getting I'd say at least 80% of the player base (that is eligible to apply age restrictions aside) over 18, and that complications with players over 18 are very little compared to that over underage players, why would you bend over backwards to deal with underage players who in all likelihood are not going to be any better than the players over 18?
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Sigh, i seriously want to do this... I just became a free agent but the req is 18+, 4 years is a long ways away especially considering I'll have more commitements by then while in college. Being 14 in sc2 is not great when trying to get into higher tier teams, ive checked nearly every team and all of them require at bare minimum of 16+. Tbh i think kids can commit more time to sc2 while in high school as supposed to during college when they are focusing on their majors and minors.
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I see their point though, someone under 18 can't make that commitment. Legally, they really can't. Plus Pokebunny there are VERRY few people in the sc2 community like you who both the skill and the parents (yes even many white parents in this day and age dont believe in video gaming careers a whole lot, however legitimate they are). Also I dont see the need for the few really good 15-17 year olds in the sc2 community to attend this CA thing. if they have the potential and are serious about it, they can continue to try to improve/maintain skill and play in online tournaments (there are plentyy of them these days) and compete in nearby LANs. If you do well in prominent online tournaments, you WILL get recruited to a decent pro team.
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On May 28 2011 06:15 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 06:05 Drizzt3 wrote:
Mana is 17 and hes a damn good player on mousesports right? creatorprime is 14 and hes in gsl code A right? and...? What % of players do you think are under the age of 18? Considering that you're getting I'd say at least 80% of the player base (that is eligible to apply age restrictions aside) over 18, and that complications with players over 18 are very little compared to that over underage players, why would you bend over backwards to deal with underage players who in all likelihood are not going to be any better than the players over 18?
Im sure this has been said before but age has nothing to do with skill level... Me and my freinds from sc2 are all 1400's and under 18 years old. In my opinion the player base in masters under 18 is a lot larger than 20%. And even if it isn't it certainly doesn't mean that we can't play at GM level... I play ROOT, VT, vVv, EG on a daily basis, i really don't think that age factors in to level of gameplay. Players like pokebunny are living examples of younger players with great success in the community.
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i think we can drop the age debate, they arent discriminating because they think minors are bad at starcraft lol, they just dont want to be liable for any issues that arise from players who are not their own legal gaurdian (obviously).
anyway, this looks awesome
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On May 28 2011 06:26 Boyo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2011 06:15 ExO_ wrote:On May 28 2011 06:05 Drizzt3 wrote:
Mana is 17 and hes a damn good player on mousesports right? creatorprime is 14 and hes in gsl code A right? and...? What % of players do you think are under the age of 18? Considering that you're getting I'd say at least 80% of the player base (that is eligible to apply age restrictions aside) over 18, and that complications with players over 18 are very little compared to that over underage players, why would you bend over backwards to deal with underage players who in all likelihood are not going to be any better than the players over 18? Im sure this has been said before but age has nothing to do with skill level... Me and my freinds from sc2 are all 1400's and under 18 years old. In my opinion the player base in masters under 18 is a lot larger than 20%. And even if it isn't it certainly doesn't mean that we can't play at GM level... I play ROOT, VT, vVv, EG on a daily basis, i really don't think that age factors in to level of gameplay. Players like pokebunny are living examples of younger players with great success in the community.
This isn't the point I was making though. I am not saying age makes you a better gamer. However there are more players over 18 than under; even more that are more serious and have more time to devote to gaming. A minor who is potentially still in school will have to deal with the rules of their parents and it can be a big mess trying to organize something like this when you don't know if player X under 18 will be grounded, banned from the computer, have to go to bed etc... So if you had the choice of having 2 equally skilled gamers, and one came with all these strings attached and conditions, the other being able to make his/her own schedule, who would you choose?
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