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On May 26 2011 11:09 Kammalleri wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 10:56 Ocedic wrote:On May 26 2011 10:53 Kammalleri wrote:
There are quite a few... EG, Fnatic, ROOT all have NA players that can compete against anyone in the world.
It really sound like a stupid post no offense. You don't even name anyone, let alone post their accomplishments that prove the point. Fact is, Team Liquid's NA players and Idra are the only ones from NA who have PROVEN they can compete on the world level. Claiming otherwise without posting results is just blind fanboyism. You said anyone not on TL, now you add Idra, there's one. There's only one NA-non-TL player that played in GSL and it's TT1, he beat San who finished fourth in GSL, lost to MC and 3-1 to MKP tho, 2 of the 4 players with the best accomplishment in the world. Beside that I could bring you a bunch of stuff, but you'll then use the latency excuse so it's pretty much a waste of time to argue about it with you the sample just isn't big enough. We will see at MLG what happens then we can discuss it. It's the first offline tournament with enough NA player to evaluate the situation. I basically have no stats that shows NA players can compete with top koreans, but you don't have stats that shows they can't either. Anyway the thread is about Complexity academy not about NA vs Korea soit's my last post on the issue.
Huh? You mean he won some matches in the world vs Korea tournament? You mean Bo1's? I said tournament RESULTS for a reason. Basically any tournament with world players so far, either a European or Korean has won, or one of the 3 I already mentioned (Huk, Nony, Idra.) Doesn't matter if it's online or offline; I think the latency argument is actually fairly dumb. So yeah, looks like you can point out some Bo1's or cherry pick some wins in NASL. Zero tournament victories or top finishes.
And so my original point still stands, why would someone put themselves through so much trouble to not even be on a world class team? If you're good enough, why go through this 'training academy' instead of just... going to MLG, winning games, making a name and becoming a star on your own? Why go through the reality show stuff?
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On May 26 2011 10:34 Noxie wrote:I like the name  ... I made up the name "Academy" for vVv's B team Glad to see it catching on! MWHAHAHA Best of luck! Maybe an Academy CW soon?
God your such a douche, i wish Jerry would put down MMORPG's for 5 minutes so he could realize what an egotistical schmuck you've let being a 'team manager' turn you into... tho to be fair i didn't ever meet you before you found a way to shove your whole head up your ass so perhaps you've always been like this.
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Time to hit masters ASAP. This is a hell of an opportunity to pass up to at least apply for.
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And so my original point still stands, why would someone put themselves through so much trouble to not even be on a world class team? If you're good enough, why go through this 'training academy' instead of just... going to MLG, winning games, making a name and becoming a star on your own? Why go through the reality show stuff?
Well maybe because being on a team that has a bit of exposure and experience with raising talented players is better than having no team at all. For example, no-one heard of cruncher before TSL, but he made quite a run for himself, regardless of whether you like his persona or not. Also, just going to mlg and expecting to win isnt enough, when you have people that put in hours of effort like Mr Bitter crashing out in the open bracket it doesnt bode well for other people who didnt have the option of the first-class coaching that he had in the '12 weeks with the pros' series. Even Catz and Destiny, who are very skilled players on a big NA team like ROOT crashed out in the first round of Dallas. Just saying that someone should just start 'winning games' isnt enough. If it was me in the position of people thinking of applying, i would still choose being on a team, 'world-class' or not, just because they know how to take in players and coach them.
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Wow complexity really has some money to support their players. They are a great team, arguably the best NA team as well. Goodluck to everyone that takes part in the event!
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actually sounds pretty good, id really consider it if i wasnt just some awful low masters player heh. GL to everyone that applies. Also that's really not nice rebelmusic, what has noxie done that would warrent that being said about him?
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Wait, so these players are going to be taught by Complexity? I don't think all-inning and abusing game mechanic flaws is going to make them any better.
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On May 26 2011 11:24 RebelMusic wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 10:34 Noxie wrote:I like the name ... I made up the name "Academy" for vVv's B team Glad to see it catching on! MWHAHAHA Best of luck! Maybe an Academy CW soon? God your such a douche, i wish Jerry would put down MMORPG's for 5 minutes so he could realize what an egotistical schmuck you've let being a 'team manager' turn you into... tho to be fair i didn't ever meet you before you found a way to shove your whole head up your ass so perhaps you've always been like this.
Just relax it.
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TBH, most "new fresh talent" would be under 18. IMO, you should have a "show like 10 replays of you playing well" for under 18, and must have parent/guardian signature
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On May 26 2011 11:24 RebelMusic wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 10:34 Noxie wrote:I like the name ... I made up the name "Academy" for vVv's B team Glad to see it catching on! MWHAHAHA Best of luck! Maybe an Academy CW soon? God your such a douche, i wish Jerry would put down MMORPG's for 5 minutes so he could realize what an egotistical schmuck you've let being a 'team manager' turn you into... tho to be fair i didn't ever meet you before you found a way to shove your whole head up your ass so perhaps you've always been like this.
So, why so bitter?
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On May 26 2011 12:06 elitesniper420 wrote:
Wait, so these players are going to be taught by Complexity?
The players will not be taught by the players complexity has right now. The academy players will be training and learning with one another. Academy players will be doing stuff and interacting with the other complexity players, but they aren't applying to be coached.
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On May 26 2011 12:22 coLtwixz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 12:06 elitesniper420 wrote:
Wait, so these players are going to be taught by Complexity? The players will not be taught by the players complexity has right now. The academy players will be training and learning with one another. Academy players will be doing stuff and interacting with the other complexity players, but they aren't applying to be coached.
Ah, the team is trying to get a fresh start with its lineup, I see.
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On May 26 2011 12:24 elitesniper420 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2011 12:22 coLtwixz wrote:On May 26 2011 12:06 elitesniper420 wrote:
Wait, so these players are going to be taught by Complexity? The players will not be taught by the players complexity has right now. The academy players will be training and learning with one another. Academy players will be doing stuff and interacting with the other complexity players, but they aren't applying to be coached. Ah, the team is trying to get a fresh start with its lineup, I see.
This is more of an opportunity for players to get together in a competitive atmosphere with all the tools needed to succeed, and be given a chance to use those tools to become the best they possibly can.
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best initiative i've seen in a long time. Looking forward to see who's gonna be the first amateur to sign a pro contract with complexity.
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here comes nadagast's first foray into pro sc2
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Wait are applicants expected to be able to still attend classes and school and stuff while the academy is happening?
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Awesome, too bad 18+! 
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im assuming if your already on a team you cant join the CA?
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