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1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 25 2011 02:39 GMT
#41
Ugh. Fan power ranks are usually a bad idea. People tend to throw foreigners, newer players, and popular names way above where they belong, without actually analyzing the games.
DRG? Guys he isn't even in Code A. Huk? He's 1-8 vs Code S players. etc etc.


People should take this with a grain of salt. If even that much
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
ePLocust
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States587 Posts
May 25 2011 02:52 GMT
#42
1. Nestea
2. Min Chul baby!!!!
3. MVP
4. Losira
5. MarineKingPrime
6. Inca
7. sc
8. July
9. San
10. MMA
11. Nada
12. SuperNova
13. Bomber
14. Polt
15. (I would LOVE to out huk here but I can't) Alicia

Here's my list feel free to yell at me or mock me etc.
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
May 25 2011 04:21 GMT
#43
On May 25 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote:
Ugh. Fan power ranks are usually a bad idea. People tend to throw foreigners, newer players, and popular names way above where they belong, without actually analyzing the games.
DRG? Guys he isn't even in Code A. Huk? He's 1-8 vs Code S players. etc etc.


People should take this with a grain of salt. If even that much


Cool man
not everyone 'll be like that
Midgetman101
Profile Joined February 2011
United States825 Posts
May 25 2011 04:38 GMT
#44
I like this idea! I'll have to think about this
~Terran For Life~
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
May 25 2011 04:39 GMT
#45
Zerg being underpowered is such a propaganda that it's always a Zerg player that is on top of such fan lists anyway. Not to say NesTea isn't a great player.
shabinka
Profile Joined October 2008
United States469 Posts
May 25 2011 04:39 GMT
#46
On May 25 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote:
Ugh. Fan power ranks are usually a bad idea. People tend to throw foreigners, newer players, and popular names way above where they belong, without actually analyzing the games.
DRG? Guys he isn't even in Code A. Huk? He's 1-8 vs Code S players. etc etc.


People should take this with a grain of salt. If even that much


So what you're saying is people don't have potential?
Oh, MC, July, etc were terrible in BW so they must be terrible in SC2.
Chill and worry about your own list. And probably read the OP too, its limited to only people who are playing in the Gom tournys.
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
May 25 2011 04:47 GMT
#47
How can people put Nestea #1? Because he won in the finals vs a terrible player? I like Nestea but let's see who he beat to get to the finals: Jinro twice, Fruitdealer, Anypro, sC and Inca. None of these players are that good tbh. I would put him top 3 but MC is definitely #1 and Mvp and Nestea are pretty closely tied for #2.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 05:39:56
May 25 2011 05:24 GMT
#48
On May 25 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote:
Ugh. Fan power ranks are usually a bad idea. People tend to throw foreigners, newer players, and popular names way above where they belong, without actually analyzing the games.
DRG? Guys he isn't even in Code A. Huk? He's 1-8 vs Code S players. etc etc.


People should take this with a grain of salt. If even that much


DRG has been around for a while. People have seen him on Korean streams, and he did go 5-1 in the GSTL which is a pretty good meter of his skill level against top players like MC, MarineKing, MMA and Nada.

I can promise you, from all the votes I've counted, that it is going a way that I think a lot of people will be happy with. There are some surprises, of course, but from my view, people aren't getting voted on over others on their popularity alone. I had the same fears you would have. I thought that maybe some people would get voted on higher because of their ties to the community, but I think all the rankings have been fair in their judgment. Of course I don't agree with all of them, but I don't see any blatant choices for foreigners.

Here's some stats for you guys:

After 52 lists checked:

45 different players have at least gotten one point.

Thirteen players have 100 points.

Two players have only 1 point.

Twelve teams are represented with at least one player.

Five players have received 1st place votes.

The breakdown of races represented currently are:

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Keep sending them in!
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
yiodee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States137 Posts
May 25 2011 05:45 GMT
#49
OP: next time try using some online service for surveys or voting. Try surveymonkey for example. It uses your IP address to distinguish votes and it is completely free
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 25 2011 05:51 GMT
#50
On May 25 2011 14:45 yiodee wrote:
OP: next time try using some online service for surveys or voting. Try surveymonkey for example. It uses your IP address to distinguish votes and it is completely free


Eh, it's fine. I like it this way. It allows people to give comments to why they picked said player in the place. I will be using those quotes in the final project. The survey online system might be easier than doing it by hand and counting votes, but I enjoy doing it, so no worries.

I also get to know who sent in which ranking by their profile. Also with Surveymonkey, people could just use proxies and stuff the vote for a certain player.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Moonling
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States987 Posts
May 25 2011 06:06 GMT
#51
Seems interesting will think while I sleep
1% of koreans control 99% of starcraft winnings. #occupykorea.
InFi.asc
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany518 Posts
May 25 2011 08:47 GMT
#52
I guess one of my votes has only one point. he is kind of forgotten by now
* Liquid'Hero * Liquid'TLO * oGsMC * oGsFin *
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 25 2011 13:00 GMT
#53
On May 25 2011 15:06 Moonling wrote:
Seems interesting will think while I sleep


No rush. The voting process will be open for at least two or three more days or more.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
May 25 2011 13:04 GMT
#54
I could imagine that the top5 or top10 from most people are very similiar as they will be based on most recent GSL success. Maybe by adding foreigners we would get more interesting results.
This is our town, scrub
dunc
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 13:17:00
May 25 2011 13:10 GMT
#55
These rankings will be shit because TL overhypes people like Bomber/MMA(OMG ARTOSIS SAID THEY ARE THE BEST WE MUST ALL BELIEVE HIM!!). Saying either of those 2 are better than MarineKing is absolutely hilarious.

Top4 should be MC/MVP/Nestea/MarineKing and based on results, players(who actually have a clue) opinions on those 4 players and the fact that those 4 are ALWAYS the favourites unless going against eachother I don't see how any argument is possible.


Also DRG and MMA both won Bo1's against good players. I love DRG but really, that's not a measurement of skill. We saw how MMA ended up when he had to play a bo3 against one of the four players.

On May 25 2011 13:39 shabinka wrote:
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On May 25 2011 11:39 1Eris1 wrote:
Ugh. Fan power ranks are usually a bad idea. People tend to throw foreigners, newer players, and popular names way above where they belong, without actually analyzing the games.
DRG? Guys he isn't even in Code A. Huk? He's 1-8 vs Code S players. etc etc.


People should take this with a grain of salt. If even that much


So what you're saying is people don't have potential?
Oh, MC, July, etc were terrible in BW so they must be terrible in SC2.
Chill and worry about your own list. And probably read the OP too, its limited to only people who are playing in the Gom tournys.


I kind of hope you are trolling but wow.
Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
May 25 2011 13:17 GMT
#56
Sent a PM, interested how this will turn out!
really?
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
May 25 2011 13:21 GMT
#57
On May 25 2011 22:10 dunc wrote:
These rankings will be shit because TL overhypes people like Bomber/MMA. Saying either of those 2 are better than MarineKing is absolutely hilarious.

Top4 should be MC/MVP/Nestea/MarineKing and based on results, players(who actually have a clue) opinions on those 4 players and the fact that those 4 are ALWAYS the favourites unless going against eachother I don't see how any argument is possible.


Also DRG and MMA both won Bo1's against good players. I love DRG but really, that's not a measurement of skill. We saw how MMA ended up when he had to play a bo3 against one of the four players.

Okay so youre coming in this thread where someone had a good idea and puts a lot of effort into it and you have to shit all over it.
You have your opinion and thats fine and thats why this ranking is made in the first place.
Me for example I didnt put DRG in my ranking as I dont think I have seen enough of him to judge, but you're simply going by results, which is not correct either. If you see someone play good , which DRG undeniably and consistenly did, in the 4-5 maps we saw him in , then that can be enough reason for someone here in the community to put him in his ranking.

Either you discuss the results when they are here in a reasonnable fashion or you may just stay out of this thread, there's noone forcing you to be here.
This is our town, scrub
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 25 2011 13:22 GMT
#58
On May 25 2011 22:10 dunc wrote:
These rankings will be shit because TL overhypes people like Bomber/MMA. Saying either of those 2 are better than MarineKing is absolutely hilarious.

Top4 should be MC/MVP/Nestea/MarineKing and based on results, players(who actually have a clue) opinions on those 4 players and the fact that those 4 are ALWAYS the favourites unless going against eachother I don't see how any argument is possible.


Also DRG and MMA both won Bo1's against good players. I love DRG but really, that's not a measurement of skill. We saw how MMA ended up when he had to play a bo3 against one of the four players.


There is a time limit for achievements of ~1 month. MKP got to the finals in february and hasn't got out of the first round in the last 2 code s tournies. Also he has almost no GSTL results, unlike MMA who has been (unrightfully so) deemed the legend killer. Bomber beat MVP, MMA, Ryung, and Lyn. Can you name a more impressive list of terran players beaten by someone else? DRG is not Code A yet so should not be considered for top 15 in korea yet however if he makes it to Code A and dominates there like we all expect him to he will shoot up mine (and probably everyone elses) rankings.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
May 25 2011 13:38 GMT
#59
On May 25 2011 22:10 dunc wrote:
These rankings will be shit because TL overhypes people like Bomber/MMA(OMG ARTOSIS SAID THEY ARE THE BEST WE MUST ALL BELIEVE HIM!!). Saying either of those 2 are better than MarineKing is absolutely hilarious.


So it's "absolutely hilarious" to consider Bomber better than MKP, even though Bomber's been sitting at the top of the TLPD ELO rank for weeks, if not months?

It's "hilarious" to consider Bomber better, even though, if we look at win percentages, Bomber has won

10.59% more TvT's,
9.82% more TvZ's, and
29.06% more TvP's,

You do realise GSL second places aren't the only things determining a good player, right?

You come off as rather arrogant. No, your opinion isn't correct. It's just an opinion, and we're all entitled to one.

My opinion is that Bomber and MKP are too close to call at the moment. Some people are more impressed by MKP, others are more impressed by Bomber. Calling other people's opinions "absolutely hilarious" and saying that people who agree with you "actually have a clue" is incredibly arrogant.
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
May 25 2011 13:39 GMT
#60
1. IMNesTea
2. oGsMC
3. STBomber
4. IMMvp
5. SlayerSMMA
6. MVPDongRaeGu
7. MarineKingPrime.WE
8. SlayerSAlicia
9. sCfOu
10. IMLosirA
11. STJuly
12. MVPKeen
13. oGsNaDa
14. TSLFruitdealer
15. GuMihofOu

I think I was pretty amazed by how good other players were with the recent GSTL, and I'm happy GSL really worked on expanding the GSTL.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
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