After the last MLG it can easily be agreed that the MLG Dallas experience for spectators was less than stellar.
Since then the MLG staff have seemed to endeavour to make sure a repeat of Dallas won't occur again, by getting feedback from the community and have realised that to win back some of the spectators they lost or let down they have to go above and beyond and strive to make vast improvements for the upcoming Columbus event. This is a feat that through announcements they are delivering, we won't know about how successful the event will have been until it occurs ^_^
A recap of announcements if you've missed some: - Addition of 4 korean players (Slayers_MMA, FoxMoon, ST_bomber and IMLosira) to pool play - Teaming up with the GSl for exchange program. Players coming over and conversely non-korean players who place will gain a place in the GSL. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=222580 - Tastosis joining the casting team alongside djWheat, itmeJP and Day[9] - Additional stream for more game coverage and less dowtime. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=223805
CLICK NO IF YOU GOT A FREE PASS BECAUSE OF DALLAS AND SELECT IT ON THE NEXT POLL.
Dallas let me down, if this runs smoothly I will consider purchasing one next time (477)
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I have a pass from Dallas that I recieved for free. (150)
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Other (138)
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Your vote: If you aren't purchasing a pass, why?
(Vote): I have a pass from Dallas that I recieved for free. (Vote): Dallas let me down, if this runs smoothly I will consider purchasing one next time (Vote): I just watch free streams (Vote): Other
Personally I got the free pass from having purchased the dallas pass, and am curious to see how many people will buy / hold off this time. Also I end up buying almost every major tournament available, GSL's, NASL, MLG, Blizzcon so despite the failure I would have ended up buying anyway. Even though MLG had its problems last event it seemed like the crew did their best given the circumstances (staying up all night, trying to fix things, responding to criticism's and it seems to have been a good learning experience for them.
I don't even care if Dallas didn't do so hot cause I've been with MLG way before SC2 was introduced into the pro-circuit so I know that this sort of thing doesn't happen often. Sucks though that I decided to buy HD Pass for the worst streamed event, but with how things are looking for Columbus (Koreans + Tastetosis), it was much worth my $10.
I'll consider it as the date gets closer. These newest sets of announcements (especially the double stream) have nearly swayed my vote... plus Tastosis... that's a pretty winning combination. It really depends on my work schedule that weekend and how much of a social life I plan to have.
Just curious, what happened to the spectators? They felt bored or felt like they didn't have a lot of privileges or what? I'm hoping to catch MLG Anaheim, and it's my first gamer convention ever, so I don't know what to expect.
I won't buy anything from MLG after all of the problems they've had at Dallas and all of the other SC2 tournaments they've held. Maybe if they did something for the people who didn't pay as well then maybe I would care and become a customer.
Its at some unviewable hour of the day so I wont be able to watch this. GG. Maybe I would pay for a pass if they offered hd vods as fast as gsl though.. As in within a few hours.
I just remember last year they also promised to improve the stream, there was still huge delays and low quality. I will wait to see if it runs smooth and on time, then buy =)
On May 17 2011 14:58 Phraxa wrote: Just curious, what happened to the spectators? They felt bored or felt like they didn't have a lot of privileges or what? I'm hoping to catch MLG Anaheim, and it's my first gamer convention ever, so I don't know what to expect.
Live you mean? I think that there was just not enough games shown on the main stage, and because of lack of soundproof booths they would only hear the commentators before and after the games because the players were able to hear everything the commentators were saying. Only thing I am aware of, someone wrote a blog about his MLG Dallas experience but I can't find it.
The soundproofing issue should be rectified though because they've purchased booths for future events!
On May 17 2011 15:03 StimiLant wrote: how much is it for the HD pass if you didnt buy one for Dallas ?
It's usually $10 dollars (I say usually incase they change it :p but it's always been $10 in the past)
On May 17 2011 14:59 Sworn wrote: I won't buy anything from MLG after all of the problems they've had at Dallas and all of the other SC2 tournaments they've held. Maybe if they did something for the people who didn't pay as well then maybe I would care and become a customer.
So getting koreans to come to their event, having the fan favorite casting archon come to cast, as well as having 2 SC2 streams along with completely hiring a new streaming team is nothing? Jeez, how self entitled or ignorant can you be.
If it is only $10 I probably will seeing as every weekend there is a MLG not close to me I have a bunch of people and we play games watch starcraft and eat pizza. Sadly last time we left to go watch a movie since the stream was so fucking broken -.- . After hearing how hard sundance worked to get to the stream up last time, I will blindly believe this stream will be godlike. The main reason I get the HD pass for MLG is I put it up on my TV, looks way better in HD that way. Plus I have the money to support e-sports and I do it every chance I get. Nice poll bro!
I wont because i get a free Hd because i bought dallas. However, if columbus is going to be as awesome as i think it could be, i will buy all future events
No, I'd rather spend those 10$ on purchasing a full gsl season which actually works. 10$ is too much imo if you compare it to gsl/NASL which give you far more value for the money.
Dallas pass has now become colombus pass. But buying future passes will be dependent heavily on what my experience is like and what the stream quality is like for the colombus stream.
Question: Last season, MLG had the horrid octoshape program. (sometimes it worked, sometimes it didnt. sometimes it errored, sometimes it froze.) they didn't have it this season for MLG Dallas but then again that was a disaster. I couldn't find any official statements about what they're doing about streaming for future events and I can see why they might go back to octoshape or something like that. Does anyone know if a third party client / software such as octoshape will be used again? Or if they are partnering up with a streaming website like justintv?
if third party programs are going to be necessary, most likely won't be buying a pass ever.
I highly doubt that I will buy since I am not convinced after MLG dallas. Maybe if you get it working properly I will buy it for the next MLG, if not then I will not purchase anything and I will have to settle with free streams with lower quality and no interruptions than paid, good quality and interrupted.
No to much free out there. Plus I'm poor college student lowes part time worker so I can only afford to pay for GSL and may stop that too if game play does not improve dramatically.
Didn't answer because it depends. Before the 2 streams, Tastosis announcement, and exchange program it was a definite no, but now I'm going to wait a couple hours and see if there's a problem with the HD passes since MLG tends to have problems. If the don't then I'll probably buy one.
I will be buying, i bought some of the other MLG events and enjoyed watching them also i never watched the last Dallas MLG because my internet was cut of but i heard about the problems
I've never even considered it worthwhile to get on for any of the previous MLGs, but with all the current things on the slate I'm thinking I may get one Saturday if the stream is stable on Friday.
Though I'd really prefer an MLG San Francisco and I'll gladly pay entrance fee :o
On May 17 2011 14:59 Sworn wrote: I won't buy anything from MLG after all of the problems they've had at Dallas and all of the other SC2 tournaments they've held. Maybe if they did something for the people who didn't pay as well then maybe I would care and become a customer.
That's such a fucking ungrateful attitude to have.
On May 17 2011 14:59 Sworn wrote: I won't buy anything from MLG after all of the problems they've had at Dallas and all of the other SC2 tournaments they've held. Maybe if they did something for the people who didn't pay as well then maybe I would care and become a customer.
That's such a fucking ungrateful attitude to have.
i will also have to agree with this guy fully. that is a very ungrateful attitude
Well they cost as much as 1 gsl season and for last mlg even before the problems the high quality didn't appear high enough quality to purchase. Maybe if it was 5 bucks like a gstl season or if they had a season ticket for half price all year long i'd consider. I must say though, they have taken steps to make the whole tournament more appealing.
Im afraid that I wont be buying a HD pass just cuz of how aweful the timezones are. Its very hard to watch everything form Sweden without totally messing up my sleep schedule.
I might buy one and not watch though, if they do what the promise I feel like it would be nice to give them some reward for the effort :-)
I wont buy it because for 10 dollars I get one GSL or half a NASL so for me it's to expensive. If it would be lower I might consider it - always depends on my evening plans for that weekend since it's normally at a time where i might not be at home (friday/saturday evening/night)
On May 17 2011 17:22 zolii wrote: I will probably buy it, but 25$ for a 3 day event is much NASL pass is the same price but for 10 weeks of sc2 25& is also 2x GSL Code A & S + 1 GSTL
Would be nice if the didn't milk it like that Anyway, hoping for a good weekend, hd all the way.
Don't forget... there are other events like Call of .... Hal... a team relay race! >_>
On May 17 2011 14:59 Sworn wrote: I won't buy anything from MLG after all of the problems they've had at Dallas and all of the other SC2 tournaments they've held. Maybe if they did something for the people who didn't pay as well then maybe I would care and become a customer.
That's such a fucking ungrateful attitude to have.
So what? It's well deserved. MLG have had more issues than any other tournament and as long as they continue that tradition I see no point in buying a pass, oh yeah ungrateful me for not throwing money at people shitting in my cereal.
Depending upon how this event runs will decide if I buy the next event. The inclusion of a second stream is the biggest thing. Being able to fill the downtime with more games is the most important thing for me, and if they succeed in doing that then I'll have no issue buying their future events' passes.
Other. MLG isn't worth my money. Not even if the stream runs smoothly which it never does. Bad production values, too many long commercials in a row all the time, never enough games shown, costs as much as an entire season of GSL. Even watching the free stream I'm always left feeling robbed for wasting my time.
Quit smoking. Pass costs 6 euros. One of the best events to spectate because you get a lot of "on the ground venue time".
I don't care if you plan on getting it or not. Or if you know you won't for whatever reason. But let me say this: They have changed a lot, be ready to get one when the stream goes live, you're gonna wanna.
On May 17 2011 17:22 zolii wrote: I will probably buy it, but 25$ for a 3 day event is much NASL pass is the same price but for 10 weeks of sc2 25$ is also 2x GSL Code A & S + 1 GSTL
Would be nice if the didn't milk it like that Anyway, hoping for a good weekend, hd all the way.
HD pass is 10 dollars yo!
25$ to be there live for 3 days with free food/drinks.
On May 17 2011 14:59 Sworn wrote: I won't buy anything from MLG after all of the problems they've had at Dallas and all of the other SC2 tournaments they've held. Maybe if they did something for the people who didn't pay as well then maybe I would care and become a customer.
That's such a fucking ungrateful attitude to have.
So what? It's well deserved. MLG have had more issues than any other tournament and as long as they continue that tradition I see no point in buying a pass, oh yeah ungrateful me for not throwing money at people shitting in my cereal.
Indeed. I wouldn't even consider it until they prove they can deliver. Giving them money blindly after the catastrophic failure that was Dallas is just stupid.
I wish I could watch the HD stream without any problems but the HD stream causes problem for my internet connection. I can watch NASL 720p live and TSL and everything else but the HD MLG stream is too much, my room mates complained a lot when I tried the MLG Dallas HD stream thats why I opted for a refund instead of an free MLG Columbus pass.
As soon as my internet connection supports it or the MLG stream is not causing any problems with my connection I will buy an HD pass.
On May 17 2011 17:22 zolii wrote: I will probably buy it, but 25$ for a 3 day event is much NASL pass is the same price but for 10 weeks of sc2 25$ is also 2x GSL Code A & S + 1 GSTL
Would be nice if the didn't milk it like that Anyway, hoping for a good weekend, hd all the way.
HD pass is 10 dollars yo!
25$ to be there live for 3 days with free food/drinks.
Damn you are actually right, doublechecked previous purcheses ;/ damn you mlg for tricking me :D:D
No offense to NA but it seems to me like it's ALWAYS problems in every single event run over there, always delay, lags and it's just messy. Sorry no pass.
I will never buy an MLG HD pass until MLG shows it can handle the event ONCE without any issues.
If Colombus is a success, I will. I bought Dallas and took the refund instead of waiting for Colombus. Though I do have to say the free stream is such terrible quality that they practically force you into buying HQ....
that said I may purchase it just for said reason IF AND ONLY IF it is smooth and without Dallas-like issues. >_>
Every MLG or at least for the last 2 years....the stream i want to watch is delayed 2 hours and i have to watch the doctor tell me about Dr. Pepper. If they fix it this time though (HUGE HOPES with GOM saying yes to them). Sundance knows shit was wrong, he's not dumb to fix it. High hopes!!!!!
The additions MLG making is a step in the right direction, but none of it matters if they do not resolve their stream issues. I have tuned in to 4 MLG events and all of them had issues/delays related to streaming.
I do think MLG is serious about making SC2 their #1 e-sport promotion, but I need to be convinced I can actually watch what I buy before I consider giving them any of my money.
On May 17 2011 17:22 zolii wrote: I will probably buy it, but 25$ for a 3 day event is much NASL pass is the same price but for 10 weeks of sc2 25$ is also 2x GSL Code A & S + 1 GSTL
Would be nice if the didn't milk it like that Anyway, hoping for a good weekend, hd all the way.
HD pass is 10 dollars yo!
25$ to be there live for 3 days with free food/drinks.
Damn you are actually right, doublechecked previous purcheses ;/ damn you mlg for tricking me :D:D
On May 17 2011 17:53 Redunzl wrote: Are you an intern or something for MLG. If so you should state as much.
Who me?
Nope, just your friendly neighbourhood Spidey!
Nah in all serious no relation whatsoever, just wanted to see how the community would react to what MLG has been doing in terms up upping there product / service quality.
On May 17 2011 17:46 Me1234 wrote: I wish I could watch the HD stream without any problems but the HD stream causes problem for my internet connection. I can watch NASL 720p live and TSL and everything else but the HD MLG stream is too much, my room mates complained a lot when I tried the MLG Dallas HD stream thats why I opted for a refund instead of an free MLG Columbus pass.
As soon as my internet connection supports it or the MLG stream is not causing any problems with my connection I will buy an HD pass.
I think this is happening because of the octoshape client? I believe they still use it. One of the reasons is because it was tailored for a different purchase but it was hard to get them to reshape octoshape to the specifications they wanted. Now it has a bad rep. But for quite a lot of people it works fine. The reason for this is that the octoshape works with p2p and will use a lot of your upload. What I would recommend is getting a program with which you can limit your overall computer or per program bandwidth and tweaking the upload to a normal value that way. I take it your roommate might be a gamer as well or something? Gets him killed on the lagspikes or something Keep in mind, I'm not 100% on the above but I believe in the past this has been talked about, if it would allow you to enjoy the event in all it's glory seems like it would be worth a try.
On May 17 2011 14:59 Sworn wrote: I won't buy anything from MLG after all of the problems they've had at Dallas and all of the other SC2 tournaments they've held. Maybe if they did something for the people who didn't pay as well then maybe I would care and become a customer.
That's such a fucking ungrateful attitude to have.
ungrateful to expect professionalism (quality + consistency)? lol...
On May 17 2011 14:59 Sworn wrote: I won't buy anything from MLG after all of the problems they've had at Dallas and all of the other SC2 tournaments they've held. Maybe if they did something for the people who didn't pay as well then maybe I would care and become a customer.
That's such a fucking ungrateful attitude to have.
ungrateful to expect professionalism (quality + consistency)? lol...
edit: MLG would not exist without us
funny.. they existed 8 years without SC community..
On May 17 2011 14:59 Sworn wrote: I won't buy anything from MLG after all of the problems they've had at Dallas and all of the other SC2 tournaments they've held. Maybe if they did something for the people who didn't pay as well then maybe I would care and become a customer.
That's such a fucking ungrateful attitude to have.
ungrateful to expect professionalism (quality + consistency)? lol...
edit: MLG would not exist without us
funny.. they existed 8 years without SC community..
I most likely will if i am able to be home and watch it, i pay for pretty much every league because most all of it is chump change in the big scheme of things. 10 dollars would be what a 20 minute meal at mcDonalds vs tastosis, day9 etc.
Everyone wants to support esports but nobody wants to drop 10 dollars every time a tournament rolls around, so im not surprised by so many no responses.
Lol, no way im buying. Their history is terrible, they're never on time, they don't inform the audience about anything, the events have generally been very unprofessional in the past. They have a lot to prove I think before people will start paying again in numbers.
On May 17 2011 14:59 Sworn wrote: I won't buy anything from MLG after all of the problems they've had at Dallas and all of the other SC2 tournaments they've held. Maybe if they did something for the people who didn't pay as well then maybe I would care and become a customer.
That's such a fucking ungrateful attitude to have.
ungrateful to expect professionalism (quality + consistency)? lol...
edit: MLG would not exist without us
funny.. they existed 8 years without SC community..
by us i didnt mean the SC community.
i meant patrons of their services
and those patrons have still stuck with MLG for 8 years.
The guys who handled the Royal wedding are handling the streaming for MLG btw.
No idea why pay for a pass when there's so many streams offering better quality and stability for free *cough TSL cough*
especially with the past history of stream problems they've had, not just Dallas, although Dallas took the cake on so many different levels it was borderline hilarious.
Only positive thing I can tell of them is that they got good casters in there usually.
I think people are abit too butthurt over dallas, I was up in flames during the event itself. But they've handeld it pretty cool since then. And with the "Free coloumbus pass for dallas buyers" I'm all set!
Granted, if they mess this up, that's it I guess. I'd rather hype myself up and have a great time, and maaaaybe be disapointed. Instead of assuming it's going to be horrible.
I dont need to buy a HD pass..... i get one free for paying to not watch hardly anything at Dallas!
They really are working to improve the streams, they have got a professional streaming company in to run them this time and that's awesome, and about damn time lol.
What can i go out and buy at this point in time, that would be a worse investment than a MLG HD pass? I am not trolling, seriously asking what could potentially be worse or piss me off more than that debacle that was Dallas? A Rebecca Black album? Its good for laughs. One of those gossip weekly magazines? Well i can get a nice shot of Kim Kardashians phat ass so thats good. Justin Bieber album? I can give it to one of my friends as a gift, it might be good for a laugh before we chuck that disc outside the window and hopefully decapitate someone etc etc
But in all seriousness for 10 dollars you can go out and get a great game that is old by now, like Bioshock, Demon Souls, Ninja Gaiden and have a hell of alot better time.
I am all for esports, been paying for GSL since S1 and will continue to do so, but supporting such a badly run even from a viewers point of view is, in the long run, bad for esports.
If i am making this up, may i die, but a friend of mine actually STOPPED watching SC2 after Dallas, he was burned so badly that he re installed WoW of all things and stopped watching SC2. I managed to convince him to at least watch the TSL finals and he is in the recovery stage at this point
Nope, had a really bad experience last time. Technical problems and even after that the quality was sub "HD", like 480p and some really weird looking graphics half the time. Unless I find out the quality is better this time, nope.
I just don't believe in the format these tournaments are using to make money off esports. They should be making money from ad revenue not from the fans. eg. every sport except UFC.
I wont buy it cos it is at an unwatchable hour for me. Anyway, Did they ever release the vods for dallas 2011? I definately want to catch the vods for colombus.
On May 17 2011 19:49 Bosko wrote: I just don't believe in the format these tournaments are using to make money off esports. They should be making money from ad revenue not from the fans. eg. every sport except UFC.
if its that way then tournaments would be dying left and right...
On May 17 2011 19:49 Bosko wrote: I just don't believe in the format these tournaments are using to make money off esports. They should be making money from ad revenue not from the fans. eg. every sport except UFC.
Ad's do not make that much money. It only works on TV because they have millions of viewers.
Tourneys like IPL with free HD stream actually lost money.
My net cant run more that low quality and free streams :p
I have bought ESL premium passes in the past because their free stream was not brilliant quality, but the MLG free stream is perfectly adequate so I dont see the point of purchasing a pass when I can already read text/supply counts/production tab.
"Its at some unviewable hour of the day so I wont be able to watch this. GG. Maybe I would pay for a pass if they offered hd vods as fast as gsl though.. As in within a few hours."
exactly this,
I want to be able to watch what i pay for, simple as that
I'm tempted to watch the friday night games for Columbus before paying for the HQ pass. My biggest concern is the amount I'll get to see. I remember tuning in for the Dallas stream only to be waiting for 30-45 min between games and then having the casters looking at twitter feeds to give updates on games. Even if all the technical issues get worked out I'm not sure I want to pay without knowing if the scheduling issues have been worked out (or at least worked on) as well. Paying 10$ for an HQ "Games coming Soon!" screen isn't something I'm really interested in.
On May 17 2011 14:59 Sworn wrote: I won't buy anything from MLG after all of the problems they've had at Dallas and all of the other SC2 tournaments they've held. Maybe if they did something for the people who didn't pay as well then maybe I would care and become a customer.
So getting koreans to come to their event, having the fan favorite casting archon come to cast, as well as having 2 SC2 streams along with completely hiring a new streaming team is nothing? Jeez, how self entitled or ignorant can you be.
Assuming they fixed everything is pretty ignorant as well. Don't pay for something you can't try before you buy, IMO. I won't be paying for an event until they have one run smoothly.
Its not just Dallas. If you consider reading tweet posts on their website about who beat who as watching this event online, then by all means, follow MLG. I gave them a few chances, and they would have to deliver 2x in a row superb events flawlessly to get me back. Here's hoping it would happen but we know it probably would not.
I voted "other" I already pay for GSL, and that has the best competition, the best commentary and the best production, it's also the better value with a whole months worth of games + spoiler free Vods for $10. If I had more money I'd probably get MLG and NASL as well, but I can't really afford to spend all my money on SC streams.
Personally, I'm fine with the free stream it is not that terrible. I'm sure that MLG will step up because maybe they were not sure how many people they were going to get to watch at dallas since it was the first one of the year. With the results they got, they should be able to handle the people that come in this time.
On May 17 2011 19:49 Bosko wrote: I just don't believe in the format these tournaments are using to make money off esports. They should be making money from ad revenue not from the fans. eg. every sport except UFC.
Ad's do not make that much money. It only works on TV because they have millions of viewers.
Tourneys like IPL with free HD stream actually lost money.
Well then they're doing it wrong. If there are individual gamers who can stream for 4k viewers and make money from JTV then why can't a tournament with 50k viewers? It might actually work better since casters won't have to ramble on for 5 minutes between games while they set up the next one, they can just set it up during the commercial break.
On May 17 2011 19:49 Bosko wrote: I just don't believe in the format these tournaments are using to make money off esports. They should be making money from ad revenue not from the fans. eg. every sport except UFC.
Ad's do not make that much money. It only works on TV because they have millions of viewers.
Tourneys like IPL with free HD stream actually lost money.
Well then they're doing it wrong. If there are individual gamers who can stream for 4k viewers and make money from JTV then why can't a tournament with 50k viewers? It might actually work better since casters won't have to ramble on for 5 minutes between games while they set up the next one, they can just set it up during the commercial break.
You're seriously trying to compare something that costs essentially nothing for one guy to run from his house to an event where you have to hire an entire convention centre, pay out thousands in prizemoney, set up dozens of computers, pay casters, organisers, etc etc... ?
On May 17 2011 18:48 Neeh wrote: I think people are abit too butthurt over dallas, I was up in flames during the event itself. But they've handeld it pretty cool since then. And with the "Free coloumbus pass for dallas buyers" I'm all set!
Granted, if they mess this up, that's it I guess. I'd rather hype myself up and have a great time, and maaaaybe be disapointed. Instead of assuming it's going to be horrible.
Dallas was the third MLG event in a row with similar issues. It was promised that it was all going to be better for Dallas. In fact, it was infinitely worse in Dallas. We don't actually know what MLG has done yet, so far they have made promises. I want this event to be great but this history warrants some skepticism. Has nothing to do with 'butthurt'.
I think this MLG is going to be awesome, but I'm not going to spend any money on anything MLG related until I know they can put up a decent stream. This has nothing to to with being butthurt, I think it's pretty reasonable to check if a product is worth your money before buying it.
On May 17 2011 19:49 Bosko wrote: I just don't believe in the format these tournaments are using to make money off esports. They should be making money from ad revenue not from the fans. eg. every sport except UFC.
Ad's do not make that much money. It only works on TV because they have millions of viewers.
Tourneys like IPL with free HD stream actually lost money.
Well then they're doing it wrong. If there are individual gamers who can stream for 4k viewers and make money from JTV then why can't a tournament with 50k viewers? It might actually work better since casters won't have to ramble on for 5 minutes between games while they set up the next one, they can just set it up during the commercial break.
You're seriously trying to compare something that costs essentially nothing for one guy to run from his house to an event where you have to hire an entire convention centre, pay out thousands in prizemoney, set up dozens of computers, pay casters, organisers, etc etc... ?
On May 17 2011 14:59 Sworn wrote: I won't buy anything from MLG after all of the problems they've had at Dallas and all of the other SC2 tournaments they've held. Maybe if they did something for the people who didn't pay as well then maybe I would care and become a customer.
That's such a fucking ungrateful attitude to have.
So what? It's well deserved. MLG have had more issues than any other tournament and as long as they continue that tradition I see no point in buying a pass, oh yeah ungrateful me for not throwing money at people shitting in my cereal.
No hes saying free people should get compensation. I mean cmon I don't think people realise how hard those people worked to bring us a stream regardless if was HD or not and sure it had problems but I'm sure they felt just as pissed as we were. I can understand people not wanting to pay because of the faults last time but looking for compensation when you didn't even pay in the first place is just plain greedy.
On May 17 2011 19:49 Bosko wrote: I just don't believe in the format these tournaments are using to make money off esports. They should be making money from ad revenue not from the fans. eg. every sport except UFC.
Ad's do not make that much money. It only works on TV because they have millions of viewers.
Tourneys like IPL with free HD stream actually lost money.
Well then they're doing it wrong. If there are individual gamers who can stream for 4k viewers and make money from JTV then why can't a tournament with 50k viewers? It might actually work better since casters won't have to ramble on for 5 minutes between games while they set up the next one, they can just set it up during the commercial break.
You're seriously trying to compare something that costs essentially nothing for one guy to run from his house to an event where you have to hire an entire convention centre, pay out thousands in prizemoney, set up dozens of computers, pay casters, organisers, etc etc... ?
Yes.
That's unbelievably stupid. How can somebody with an actual brain inside their head not realize that a guy streaming his ladder games has no expenses and MLG might have to spent a dollar on two on location, casters, players and a shit ton of other stuff?
$10 isn't a bad price, but MLG has a history of streaming issues
if the stream consistency improves, then i will definitely think about it. are VODs included with the package? if so, then i'd probably buy it 100% if the stream proves stable.
Why buy an HD pass for something that won't be up momentairily? I'd buy and HD pass for the TL thread that automatically refreshes though. No more need to refresh to check wether the cat wll make it. With an eagle stream above it.
I'm kind of put off by the last showing, and missing most of it due to being in Europian timezones will make sure there won't be any money from me sent to them.
On May 17 2011 19:49 Bosko wrote: I just don't believe in the format these tournaments are using to make money off esports. They should be making money from ad revenue not from the fans. eg. every sport except UFC.
Ad's do not make that much money. It only works on TV because they have millions of viewers.
Tourneys like IPL with free HD stream actually lost money.
Well then they're doing it wrong. If there are individual gamers who can stream for 4k viewers and make money from JTV then why can't a tournament with 50k viewers? It might actually work better since casters won't have to ramble on for 5 minutes between games while they set up the next one, they can just set it up during the commercial break.
You're seriously trying to compare something that costs essentially nothing for one guy to run from his house to an event where you have to hire an entire convention centre, pay out thousands in prizemoney, set up dozens of computers, pay casters, organisers, etc etc... ?
Yes.
That's unbelievably stupid. How can somebody with an actual brain inside their head not realize that a guy streaming his ladder games has no expenses and MLG might have to spent a dollar on two on location, casters, players and a shit ton of other stuff?
You guys keep talking like thats their only source of income. If that was the case MLG would be canceled after what happened in Dallas.
I think people don't get it. MLG knows how f'd up Dallas was. Why do people just think they aren't going to do anything about it? I talked to MLG Lee at the CES Invitational and he basically said they are going to have it right. I could see how bothered he was from Dallas. They won't make the same mistakes again.
I also think they should not charge for the streams, its not that i think the price is unreasonable just that most people who watch are most likely students and it isnt often i would get to watch an entire tournament either. Obviously its nice that players can earn such big prizes now, but would they stop playing these tournaments if it were less? Dreamhack for me is the pinnacle and that is free, most revenue is from sponsors anyway not ads.
Every MLG I've watched has had it's problems. Dallas was just the most destructive. I don't know if MLG can actually do anything about it given the internet quality at the venues. It isn't necessarily their fault, but I'm not going to buy an HD pass and hardly get to see any games on a poor, poor schedule.
I am not planning to buy one. That said, if they actually start streaming on time without hiccup for a few hours, I will be supporting them in buying late Friday. I just do not see it happening. They really need a satellite truck, and they really could use LAN settings for SC2 . Only then would this all be a non-issue and we would be happy as could be.
On May 17 2011 22:05 BRaegO wrote: I think people don't get it. MLG knows how f'd up Dallas was. Why do people just think they aren't going to do anything about it? I talked to MLG Lee at the CES Invitational and he basically said they are going to have it right. I could see how bothered he was from Dallas. They won't make the same mistakes again.
Maybe because every MLG with SC2 had problems. And every time they said that next time they will get everything right.
On May 17 2011 22:05 BRaegO wrote: I think people don't get it. MLG knows how f'd up Dallas was. Why do people just think they aren't going to do anything about it? I talked to MLG Lee at the CES Invitational and he basically said they are going to have it right. I could see how bothered he was from Dallas. They won't make the same mistakes again.
The only way to know for sure they have fixed their problems is for them to prove it. Their word means jack shit at this point unfortunately.
I'm still really skeptical due to the technical issues in Dallas. If there aren't any major issues, this could shape up to be the best tournament to date.
MLG HD pass wasn't the only premium stream to have difficulties. I have been dissapointed in nearly every premium pass i've seen offered. wouldn't surprise me if MLG had difficulties again this year. it's a waste of money i'll just watch a free stream
You need another option on this pole for folks who bought one for Dallas and so have a free pass now, the real question will be for the following MLG (can't remember the location).
Depending on the performance I get with my free HD pass from Dallas/Columbus I will probably get the HD pass again to support the organization and western esports.
No way with the way Dallas was run. If this one goes smooth 100% without any problems I might consider buying a pass for the next one, otherwise no way.
I will not buy one because of the past (and not just the last MLG). But if this one is awesome and without problems and they keep that quality for the next one I might consider getting a HQ pass although they do earn money of free users through commercials which I have no problems watching (especially since they are all so wacky and fun :D)
Every single MLG so far has been plagued by delays, technical difficulties, etc. So no, I won't buy a HD pass untill after they've had like 3 tournaments without problems.
Personally it doesn't have to do very much with last MLG. I just don't want to spend more money on SC2 than the tickets for GSL, the rest I'll watch in LQ if that's what's needed.
On May 17 2011 22:05 BRaegO wrote: I think people don't get it. MLG knows how f'd up Dallas was. Why do people just think they aren't going to do anything about it? I talked to MLG Lee at the CES Invitational and he basically said they are going to have it right. I could see how bothered he was from Dallas. They won't make the same mistakes again.
Very important to learn is that what people say does not really matter, people can say anything they want (and they tend to especially if currency is involved)
What really matters are the actions, if MLG can knock it off the ballpark and deliver a great show they can win some goodwill back from viewers.
You talked to Lee? Well JP and the rest of the SOTG crew talked to Sundance a few SOTG back and he was talking about how MLG Dallas was going to be the best show ever and how important SC2 is to them.
I dont like speaking for others but in this case i think i can speak for everyone who has a bad taste in their mouth after Dallas, we want MLG to succeed, this isent some hobby that we like to hate on MLG and trash them.
I know its common in the community to hate on things and just be a negative little nancy, but when it comes to tournaments we them to be good, nobody gains pleasure by seeing MLG or anyone fail (we only gain pleasure seeing Gracken lose but that is a different topic )
I think you simply can't buy a Columbus ticket after this farce in Dallas. Before Dallas, they were already promising to improve everything that went wrong last time, but it was even worse. But even when you pull those technical problems out, Dallas just wasn't a good event. Horrible SetUp (those "gaming areas" and the "stage" looked like this took place on a childrens birthday party) hour long pauses, huge amount of commercials, and casters simply sitting there, talking for over 30 minutes, just to announce that "the last epic match ended and IdrA won!" but showing absolutley nothing.
There was no winner ceremony at all, just a random guy asking Naniwa 1-2 Questions (which you couldn't understand) and giving him his trophy.
Honestly, EVERY other big tournament to date did a better job at EVERYTHING MLG did. And for the most of them you didn't even have to pay money to watch them in a pretty good quality.
So, thumbs down for MLG. I hope I'm wrong this time and they really will improve on all this points.
Im not buying one after Dallas. I dont have enough faith in MLG. If i see things have drastically improved then ill buy a HD pass for the next MLG. I think this is fair considering the way Dallas was exectuted, and im not just talking about the technical difficulties, that can happen to anyone. Im talking about 30-40 mins downtime between games, casters being on breaks while some of the biggest games in the tournament are being played and not shown, the casters not seeming to know what they are meant to be doing and when, half the time the casters are on they were sitting chatting or just looking confused. All in all it was a bit of a mess, then you compare it to DH Invitational, free HD, little downtime, good casters who know what games will be shown when, a great host who does entertaining interviews etc when there is downtime, whereas at MLG we were watching casters sit. Hopefully a lot of lessons will have been learnt, and the stream will be well worth it, but i want to see evidence of that before i have to put up money.
If people are using Dallas's troubles as the reason not to purchase a ticket, I think you should reconsider. The last event was a venue problem, with it beign in a city with no strong enough upload connection to feed to as many veiwers as they did, which shouldn't be a problem in columbus
not to mention...Tastosis are going to be here, no guarantees for future events.
You'll want to see Tastosis in clear crisp makeup after all
last mlg event was really bad so i will wait and see, also i bought nasl every gsl even gstl so far and esltv premium and all others so i spend already a big bunch of my money i have to start to choose
I am using my free pass I got with the Dallas pass. I believe they hired a professional streaming company to aid them with the columbus event. http://streamworksint.com/ if I am not mistaken. MLG has never really let me down until Dallas but it was fine I still got to watch SC2 as I did other things.
I will not. MLG has failed a few times now. They will have to earn me back as a customer. I will check out the free stream, but if it is terrible, I'll just start dropping MLG from my daily sc2 watching routine.
I won't be buying, as I think the difference between the free steam and HQ (as show the few secs the HQ were online at dallas) is hardly noticable. If they actually went HD I might consider it if colombus runs with zero problems/lag. Otherwise I really don't feel like throwing money at them...
I opted to take the free upgrade to pro from last time.
If MLG is still using the Octoshape, though, I'm probably going to downgrade to the low quality stream and also never buy an HD pass again. As much as I'd like to provide some level of support for what MLG is doing, the last two events have had major issues ( which I can forgive if they make improvements ), but I can't forgive the use of Octoshape.
Octoshape will instantly start to use up to 5mbps downstream plus another 1.5 mbps upstream plus whatever I need to actually watch the stream. This application likes to saturate my entire network on its own. Nothing else I've ever watched, including 1080p NASL broadcasts, has come even close to the retarded amount of throughput that Octoshape takes because I'm on a good net connection. I'm not going to download applications like NetLimiter so I can actually use my own network while watching MLG anymore. Seriously, Octoshape is like the worst thing to ever appear on the scene and venues using it makes me rage.
Well, the past MLG (my first MLG) was a great let-down for me, so I'll refrain from buying MLG tickets yet and just watch the free stream. With that awesome exchange program, if they manage to run everything smoothly, they will be my 2nd favorite starcraft 2 league after the GSL.
I think MLG will come more prepared this time, they didnt expect so many people to be watching this live!, its gunna run very smoothly i think, because MLG isnt a pushover , they been doing this for quite some time.. since 04 when i was following them. and there not gunna let the saame thing happen.
If I didn't receive my free pass from Dallas, I'd have purchased another one. Shit happens, I'm willing to forgive. I feel people are throwing the problems with the stream way outta proportion. I seriously doubt they will let that happen again.
I will def purchase it. I have always purchased them from way back in the wow days. Dallas was the first time they have had issues like that. With the amount of changes and additions I cannot wait!
Already bought GSL and it's a lot of vods to watch, i don't have time to watch much more, and thus won't spend money on it... I'd like to, but it just makes no sense for me.
On May 18 2011 00:41 Blacktion wrote: Im not buying one after Dallas. I dont have enough faith in MLG. If i see things have drastically improved then ill buy a HD pass for the next MLG. I think this is fair considering the way Dallas was exectuted, and im not just talking about the technical difficulties, that can happen to anyone. Im talking about 30-40 mins downtime between games, casters being on breaks while some of the biggest games in the tournament are being played and not shown, the casters not seeming to know what they are meant to be doing and when, half the time the casters are on they were sitting chatting or just looking confused. All in all it was a bit of a mess, then you compare it to DH Invitational, free HD, little downtime, good casters who know what games will be shown when, a great host who does entertaining interviews etc when there is downtime, whereas at MLG we were watching casters sit. Hopefully a lot of lessons will have been learnt, and the stream will be well worth it, but i want to see evidence of that before i have to put up money.
please dont compare a tournament with 8 players with one with 200+ players.
I can't believe there are people in here actually defending MLG and trying to convince us to buy a ticket. Some people never learn. I especially like the ones that claim Dallas was the first time they had problems and that since they're saying everything is going to be great now, it will be! That's what they said about Dallas in the first place.
However, f i do end up buying and HD pass and they have anything remotely similar happen like with MLGDallas then I probably won't ever buy another HD pass.
MLG have had MULTIPLE events with shitty shitty streams and shitty scheduling for which games are going to be on stream, IF they run 2-3 events in a row without stream problems I will start buying passes.
On May 17 2011 14:59 Sworn wrote: I won't buy anything from MLG after all of the problems they've had at Dallas and all of the other SC2 tournaments they've held. Maybe if they did something for the people who didn't pay as well then maybe I would care and become a customer.
... were you expecting sundance to personally come to your house and say sorry?
He apologized profusely and refunded all of the customers. Then he added a second SC2 stream... brought in some Koreans.... AND TASTOSIS!
what the heck is your definition of "something" man?
to topic though... I'll def check the free streams... if its smooth sailings I'll buy next time for sure
On May 17 2011 14:59 Sworn wrote: I won't buy anything from MLG after all of the problems they've had at Dallas and all of the other SC2 tournaments they've held. Maybe if they did something for the people who didn't pay as well then maybe I would care and become a customer.
So getting koreans to come to their event, having the fan favorite casting archon come to cast, as well as having 2 SC2 streams along with completely hiring a new streaming team is nothing? Jeez, how self entitled or ignorant can you be.
Assuming they fixed everything is pretty ignorant as well. Don't pay for something you can't try before you buy, IMO. I won't be paying for an event until they have one run smoothly.
Where did I say that I'm assuming everything is going to go perfectly, your reading comprehension fails miserably.
He was complaining that MLG did nothing for the non paying customers, and I just pointed out that that's blatantly false they've done so much stuff for Columbus for everybody including the non paying viewers.
I completely understand not wanting to risk the super small amount of 10$ on the tournament if you want to wait and see whether or not everything is smooth on the first day. That's logical, but to say that you won't think of buying their product because they haven't done anything for the non-paying customers? That doesn't even make sense, MLG has put in tons of effort into trying to get everything they can for them. The only thing they don't get compared to the people who purchased the HD pass is a DVR feature and a their stream quality is worse.
I got the free pass since I bought one for Dallas. But, I also believe in second chances. If they fuck up Columbus like they did Dallas then I'm not going to be buying from them again. That said, I think MLG is making a serious effort to offer a great product. Two streams and Tastosis? That's pretty friggin' awesome. Now all they have to do is execute the event cleanly.
On May 17 2011 14:59 Sworn wrote: I won't buy anything from MLG after all of the problems they've had at Dallas and all of the other SC2 tournaments they've held. Maybe if they did something for the people who didn't pay as well then maybe I would care and become a customer.
So getting koreans to come to their event, having the fan favorite casting archon come to cast, as well as having 2 SC2 streams along with completely hiring a new streaming team is nothing? Jeez, how self entitled or ignorant can you be.
Assuming they fixed everything is pretty ignorant as well. Don't pay for something you can't try before you buy, IMO. I won't be paying for an event until they have one run smoothly.
Where did I say that I'm assuming everything is going to go perfectly, your reading comprehension fails miserably.
He was complaining that MLG did nothing for the non paying customers, and I just pointed out that that's blatantly false they've done so much stuff for Columbus for everybody including the non paying viewers.
I completely understand not wanting to risk the super small amount of 10$ on the tournament if you want to wait and see whether or not everything is smooth on the first day. That's logical, but to say that you won't think of buying their product because they haven't done anything for the non-paying customers? That doesn't even make sense, MLG has put in tons of effort into trying to get everything they can for them. The only thing they don't get compared to the people who purchased the HD pass is a DVR feature and a their stream quality is worse.
Yeah my bad, I assumed your reply was also trying to counter the fact that MLG has had nothing but problems. It is stupid to say that the free users deserve anything more than the free stream.
Regardless, all of the crap they've added to Columbus doesn't make their history of failure disappear, it'll just make continuing failure that much more painful. With any luck they actually put on a good production.
I won't but not just cause of the tech delays, with all these events, it will literally be too costly to watch sc2 so I don't want to encourage this anymore. GSL is enough for me.
On May 18 2011 00:46 Zlasher wrote: If people are using Dallas's troubles as the reason not to purchase a ticket, I think you should reconsider. The last event was a venue problem, with it beign in a city with no strong enough upload connection to feed to as many veiwers as they did, which shouldn't be a problem in columbus
not to mention...Tastosis are going to be here, no guarantees for future events.
You'll want to see Tastosis in clear crisp makeup after all
Please stop acting like Dallas was the only event they've had problems.
Every single MLG event featuring SC2 has been plagued with delays, poor stream quality or just random freezes and crashing.
On May 18 2011 00:41 Blacktion wrote: Im not buying one after Dallas. I dont have enough faith in MLG. If i see things have drastically improved then ill buy a HD pass for the next MLG. I think this is fair considering the way Dallas was exectuted, and im not just talking about the technical difficulties, that can happen to anyone. Im talking about 30-40 mins downtime between games, casters being on breaks while some of the biggest games in the tournament are being played and not shown, the casters not seeming to know what they are meant to be doing and when, half the time the casters are on they were sitting chatting or just looking confused. All in all it was a bit of a mess, then you compare it to DH Invitational, free HD, little downtime, good casters who know what games will be shown when, a great host who does entertaining interviews etc when there is downtime, whereas at MLG we were watching casters sit. Hopefully a lot of lessons will have been learnt, and the stream will be well worth it, but i want to see evidence of that before i have to put up money.
please dont compare a tournament with 8 players with one with 200+ players.
That has nothing to do with the stream working.. And when you have 200+ players one would think there would be much more content to be aired..
I will probably also stay up the entire night so I can "enjoy" my money. BUT, if I have to do something that weekend. I will not buy the pass, so I am buying the pass solely for my own pleasure. duh.
The only SC2 content I pay for is GSL, which I buy for the VODs because i can't watch the live stream at 5am. The HD stream I get to watch on Saturday's when it's on at 2am is just a bonus for me. I don't care enough about HD to pay for it.
Voted no, I've just been disappointed too many times in the past and it's not worth the money at the moment. If they step up their game as they have promised then I'll reconsider.
I was away for dallas so didnt get to watch live, im not gona purchase one for columbus because of issues last time but if it proves out to be smooth i will be getting them for future mlg events.
I bought the Dallas hd pass. By all accounts it was a disappointment. The stream constantly crashed, even when it was up it was rarely in hd. I'm not paying for an mlg stream until I know that they have got their act together. If Columbus run's smooth and the hd stream is reported to work, then I might buy a pass for their next event.
On May 18 2011 02:30 worldchrisis wrote: The only SC2 content I pay for is GSL, which I buy for the VODs because i can't watch the live stream at 5am. The HD stream I get to watch on Saturday's when it's on at 2am is just a bonus for me. I don't care enough about HD to pay for it.
this. Except for the fact, that in my case the games are at 11am.
Will buy the pass if: 1. They actually start on time, no delays. 2. First few hours of broadcast have little to no down time in between games.
If people are using Dallas's troubles as the reason not to purchase a ticket, I think you should reconsider. The last event was a venue problem, with it beign in a city with no strong enough upload connection to feed to as many veiwers as they did, which shouldn't be a problem in columbus
MLG has been plagued with delays, down time, and technical problems since the WoW tourney days (and probably even before that, since that was only when I first started watching). Dallas was just when the shit finally hit the fan. That said, I am willing to buy a pass if I see huge improvement on day one including starting on time for once (I would have for dallas too), but I am not taking the word of the same people who have been satisfied with poorly run events (at least on the stream side, can't speak for live) for years.
for me it's no and no. i don't see the reason to pay money for something like that. i can just watch free streams. german mentality you might want to say.
If the Colombus viewing experience is DRASTICLY better than the last one (Dallas?), I'll probably get a pass for the next one. If it's another case of 10 games shown over the course of 3 days, with little to no info on what's to come and how long the downtime will be, HELL NO.
won't buy one. the free stream was sufficient so far and i usually don't have the time to watch a full weekend so an HD pass feels like it isn't quite worth it. i'm willing to be proved wrong though
If they have hd vods then I'll buy. If no then no. Im so busy that I won't pay for anything that can't be watched when I'm free and requires me to schedule around it.
I recently got interested in MLG (beyond just checking win/loss statistics) and decided to set aside some time to watch MLG Dallas for free and decide if it was worth purchasing a HD/HQ pass next time. That didnt work out so well and Im glad I waited to spend my money or I would have been extremely disappointed. The restreams of Dallas were fairly decent and did keep my interest. So I am going to skip buying this event for now and if it goes off well then I will likely purchase a pass for the following event. First lets see if MLG can correct their problems before I spend money on them.
I was inches away from actually getting my money back from dallas event just because the experience sucked so badly. But they can have my 10$, I dont really care. I cant watch the next event, but if the feedback is really good then I'll sure grab the next one aswell.
I have to say though, that every single time I have tuned in to watch MLG there has been considerable delays. They are not reliable at all, and its gonna take more then some announcements to repair their crap reputation.
Voted for "No" and "Dallas let me down, if this runs smoothly I will consider purchasing one next time". And I really will buy HD pass for next MLG events if they show, for ONCE, they are capable of doing SC2 tournament without much of issues. It is not that I/we ask for tooooo much.
I voted no and other. If my internet could handle a high quality stream I would, but as it stands I'm not paying to watch an unwatchable (for me) stream.
Theres no reason not to. I think its silly to assume that they will screw up again and be complacent about it. Its already evident that they are apologetic about Dallas and are willing to refund to their fans as well as try and raise the bar for the next MLG. If youre a SC2 fan I cant imagine why you wouldn't buy a HD pass (unless you prefer the low quality stream.)
I dont think I will watch even, cause the time table. There might be some random player on the stream. I might watch the stream when it's top 32 or something.
I work during the live casts so for that reason I will be buying one
EDIT: I did watch the live casts of Dallas so I am a bit wary however they did TRY to fix it (even though it didnt work, ever) but I have a feeling they are geared up for it this time, and if not i will just get a free pass next time if they flop again lol
It's really simple. Any organization that wants money from me will have to prove they have a product worthy of money. What they've put out to date isn't even worth my time for free. So I'll believe it when I see it. If they finally put out a quality online product at Columbus and live up to all their hype, then I will begin to consider a HQ pass for future events. I really hope they succeed, as there are only so many stream problems I can take before I feel like I'm wasting my weekend away getting frustrated.
With all that said, I genuinely hope Columbus is a fantastic event. I'll be tuning into the free stream on Friday to see if they've finally got their act together.
Nothing in the MLG store: only spectator and player passes. this one I found especially confusing
Google search "MLG HD pass" Link to this TL forum post!... but nothing for the HD pass
if someone can show me something obvious I'm missing I'd be appreciative. MLG's site doesnt even let you search their forums without a account :\
I agree whole heartedly!
I lost my previous MLG account so I made a new one - What the hell, I have never seen a more complex form to fill out to get an online service like this! - It's a stream, not a fucking homebanking aplication..
Firstly, they have to have all of your personal info - Full name, full adress, phonenumber etc.. I was wondering abit about this.. My e-mail should be enough? Anyway, np, I fill out the form after failing abit on the phonenumber, as you shouldn't add your country-code to the phonenumber, to find out that I HAVE to give a state where I live... I live in Denmark, we have no states.. Or well, just one, Denmark, but no - couldn't select Denmark, the state-option is a dropdown with the US-states in it.. I tried to just ignore the field after i filled in all of the other fields, but no - Error, required fields. God damn it, in the end I just select Alabama, home of Forest Gump, why not?
Then comes the anti-hacker part - First, a dropdown (which I miss the first time i try to submit and have to redo password etc.) that asks: Are you a hacker? (Something like that, anyway) Dropdown options: YES, NO - Wtf? Okay, I choose No, I do not considder myself a hacker. Below that, a field that says: "Write the number 8" and then a blank field to be filled out.. I think to myself: THIS IS A TEST! So I write "eight" and "the number eight" - It said WRITE! Okay, I was being a complete retard here, but at this point, my brain was melting.. After numerus failed submits of the form and having to redo password/anti-hack-thing and so on, I finally manage to create a new account! Haleluja!
After that, I had to spend 5-6 minutes browsing/searching the site to find out where I could tell them TO TAKE MY MONEY! Fuck!
Nothing in the MLG store: only spectator and player passes. this one I found especially confusing
Google search "MLG HD pass" Link to this TL forum post!... but nothing for the HD pass
if someone can show me something obvious I'm missing I'd be appreciative. MLG's site doesnt even let you search their forums without a account :\
I agree whole heartedly!
I lost my previous MLG account so I made a new one - What the hell, I have never seen a more complex form to fill out to get an online service like this! - It's a stream, not a fucking homebanking aplication..
Firstly, they have to have all of your personal info - Full name, full adress, phonenumber etc.. I was wondering abit about this.. My e-mail should be enough? Anyway, np, I fill out the form after failing abit on the phonenumber, as you shouldn't add your country-code to the phonenumber, to find out that I HAVE to give a state where I live... I live in Denmark, we have no states.. Or well, just one, Denmark, but no - couldn't select Denmark, the state-option is a dropdown with the US-states in it.. I tried to just ignore the field after i filled in all of the other fields, but no - Error, required fields. God damn it, in the end I just select Alabama, home of Forest Gump, why not?
Then comes the anti-hacker part - First, a dropdown (which I miss the first time i try to submit and have to redo password etc.) that asks: Are you a hacker? (Something like that, anyway) Dropdown options: YES, NO - Wtf? Okay, I choose No, I do not considder myself a hacker. Below that, a field that says: "Write the number 8" and then a blank field to be filled out.. I think to myself: THIS IS A TEST! So I write "eight" and "the number eight" - It said WRITE! Okay, I was being a complete retard here, but at this point, my brain was melting.. After numerus failed submits of the form and having to redo password/anti-hack-thing and so on, I finally manage to create a new account! Haleluja!
After that, I had to spend 5-6 minutes browsing/searching the site to find out where I could tell them TO TAKE MY MONEY! Fuck!
/rant off
did you manage to buy the HQ pass already for columbus? if so paste link please
I was going to check out MLG Dallas and depending on that was going to buy a pass for Columbus but since Dallas for the online viewers was a complete disaster I'm now going to wait for Columbus to deliver and will buy a pass for the next one if this is better, which is not asking for a lot imo.
Nothing in the MLG store: only spectator and player passes. this one I found especially confusing
Google search "MLG HD pass" Link to this TL forum post!... but nothing for the HD pass
if someone can show me something obvious I'm missing I'd be appreciative. MLG's site doesnt even let you search their forums without a account :\
I agree whole heartedly!
I lost my previous MLG account so I made a new one - What the hell, I have never seen a more complex form to fill out to get an online service like this! - It's a stream, not a fucking homebanking aplication..
Firstly, they have to have all of your personal info - Full name, full adress, phonenumber etc.. I was wondering abit about this.. My e-mail should be enough? Anyway, np, I fill out the form after failing abit on the phonenumber, as you shouldn't add your country-code to the phonenumber, to find out that I HAVE to give a state where I live... I live in Denmark, we have no states.. Or well, just one, Denmark, but no - couldn't select Denmark, the state-option is a dropdown with the US-states in it.. I tried to just ignore the field after i filled in all of the other fields, but no - Error, required fields. God damn it, in the end I just select Alabama, home of Forest Gump, why not?
Then comes the anti-hacker part - First, a dropdown (which I miss the first time i try to submit and have to redo password etc.) that asks: Are you a hacker? (Something like that, anyway) Dropdown options: YES, NO - Wtf? Okay, I choose No, I do not considder myself a hacker. Below that, a field that says: "Write the number 8" and then a blank field to be filled out.. I think to myself: THIS IS A TEST! So I write "eight" and "the number eight" - It said WRITE! Okay, I was being a complete retard here, but at this point, my brain was melting.. After numerus failed submits of the form and having to redo password/anti-hack-thing and so on, I finally manage to create a new account! Haleluja!
After that, I had to spend 5-6 minutes browsing/searching the site to find out where I could tell them TO TAKE MY MONEY! Fuck!
/rant off
did you manage to buy the HQ pass already for columbus? if so paste link please
I have gone full retard..
I didn't buy a streaming pass, I bought a ticket for the venue.. I hereby revoke my right to ever procreate
A spectator pass is now reserved under your name; you will not receive a physical pass.
If this pass is for you, simply bring your photo ID to the check-in desk at the venue; we will search for your pass by your name. If you bought multiple passes, they will all be listed under your name.
If you have purchased a pass/passes for other people and you will not be there to check in, they will need the above receipt, with the order confirmation number, in order to check in and receive their pass.
Once we’ve confirmed the info at check-in, you (or your friend/s) will receive a wristband that will give spectator access to the entire weekend. Keep your wristband with you at all times! If you lose it, you’ll need to purchase another one.
Doors Open at 1:30 PM on the Friday of the Competition. You can check in beginning at 10:30 AM. This pass gets you full access to the entire weekend, up until the end of tournament play on Sunday evening; watch all the games you like and participate in promotions, giveaways, contests and sponsor activities. Bring your favorite controller! There might be free play, and you’ll need it to participate. We’ll take care of everything else.
Nothing in the MLG store: only spectator and player passes. this one I found especially confusing
Google search "MLG HD pass" Link to this TL forum post!... but nothing for the HD pass
if someone can show me something obvious I'm missing I'd be appreciative. MLG's site doesnt even let you search their forums without a account :\
I agree whole heartedly!
I lost my previous MLG account so I made a new one - What the hell, I have never seen a more complex form to fill out to get an online service like this! - It's a stream, not a fucking homebanking aplication..
Firstly, they have to have all of your personal info - Full name, full adress, phonenumber etc.. I was wondering abit about this.. My e-mail should be enough? Anyway, np, I fill out the form after failing abit on the phonenumber, as you shouldn't add your country-code to the phonenumber, to find out that I HAVE to give a state where I live... I live in Denmark, we have no states.. Or well, just one, Denmark, but no - couldn't select Denmark, the state-option is a dropdown with the US-states in it.. I tried to just ignore the field after i filled in all of the other fields, but no - Error, required fields. God damn it, in the end I just select Alabama, home of Forest Gump, why not?
Then comes the anti-hacker part - First, a dropdown (which I miss the first time i try to submit and have to redo password etc.) that asks: Are you a hacker? (Something like that, anyway) Dropdown options: YES, NO - Wtf? Okay, I choose No, I do not considder myself a hacker. Below that, a field that says: "Write the number 8" and then a blank field to be filled out.. I think to myself: THIS IS A TEST! So I write "eight" and "the number eight" - It said WRITE! Okay, I was being a complete retard here, but at this point, my brain was melting.. After numerus failed submits of the form and having to redo password/anti-hack-thing and so on, I finally manage to create a new account! Haleluja!
After that, I had to spend 5-6 minutes browsing/searching the site to find out where I could tell them TO TAKE MY MONEY! Fuck!
/rant off
did you manage to buy the HQ pass already for columbus? if so paste link please
I have gone full retard..
I didn't buy a streaming pass, I bought a ticket for the venue.. I hereby revoke my right to ever procreate
A spectator pass is now reserved under your name; you will not receive a physical pass.
If this pass is for you, simply bring your photo ID to the check-in desk at the venue; we will search for your pass by your name. If you bought multiple passes, they will all be listed under your name.
If you have purchased a pass/passes for other people and you will not be there to check in, they will need the above receipt, with the order confirmation number, in order to check in and receive their pass.
Once we’ve confirmed the info at check-in, you (or your friend/s) will receive a wristband that will give spectator access to the entire weekend. Keep your wristband with you at all times! If you lose it, you’ll need to purchase another one.
Doors Open at 1:30 PM on the Friday of the Competition. You can check in beginning at 10:30 AM. This pass gets you full access to the entire weekend, up until the end of tournament play on Sunday evening; watch all the games you like and participate in promotions, giveaways, contests and sponsor activities. Bring your favorite controller! There might be free play, and you’ll need it to participate. We’ll take care of everything else.
so according to this poll, if the previous MLG went smoothly it would be ca ~500 not wanting to buy and around ~700 buying, that's ca 58% of viewership think purchasing the service over the free stream is worth it (pretty good imo?)
I'm curious to know if the ones who put in "only watch streams for free" use addblock aswell or if they accept commercials?
if we estimate their viewership to be comparable to TSL3 then (conservatively 30,000 viewers) they get 17490*HD fee not counting commercials
I have tried to buy an HD pass for the last 30 minutes but i just cant find the damn button to do it -.- can somebody plz post a link so i can spend my money?^^
On June 03 2011 01:02 KadaverBB wrote: I have tried to buy an HD pass for the last 30 minutes but i just cant find the damn button to do it -.- can somebody plz post a link so i can spend my money?^^
dont think they're accepting orders yet, or i'm just blind and cant find it
Since we are getting free HD on Friday, I'll be checking out the uptime/amount of matches played. If that works out, then I'm buying the HD pass for Saturday and Sunday.
Until they can start up and run smoothly for at least 2 events and meet the majority of the communities requirements and everyone else agrees I won't be buying a pass from MLG. If they can make the majority of online viewers happy then I more than likely wont enjoy it either. Not to mention Dallas was a total disaster, I will be going to future Dallas events in person though.
On June 03 2011 01:42 AtlasJQ wrote: Have people received codes for their HD pass to Columbus from the Dallas offer yet?
Took this from MLG site in regards to free Cbus HQ if you purchased Dallas:
Yup. As long as you purchased the Dallas pass you will definitely have a free Columbus HQ pass automatically added to your account. I don't believe there is a way to check, but yeah - as long as you are logged into the account that you purchased the Dallas pass on (I assume this one), you should be fine. Another thing to note is that everyone gets free HQ for Friday night's play (I'm guessing by your name and the way you ended your post that you are a fellow Aussie, so that is Saturday morning to afternoon ).
If for whatever reason during the event that you don't have HQ or are having issues with the stream, you can use the HQ Support Forum.
On June 03 2011 01:02 KadaverBB wrote: I have tried to buy an HD pass for the last 30 minutes but i just cant find the damn button to do it -.- can somebody plz post a link so i can spend my money?^^
dont think they're accepting orders yet, or i'm just blind and cant find it
I bought the MLG Dallas pass, so I'm set for that. I think I would still buy one regardless, especially that they've apparently made SO many improvements.
Undecided yet. Bought my nasl/gsl pass and would like to buy a mlg pass but i have to check first if they run smoothly on friday. what is the lq stream like? 480?
On June 04 2011 00:00 Slomo wrote: I voted for "Other" because I dont have time to watch all these games and they are played in a bad time for me in germany.
Indeed, also too much downtime between games - this especially sucks when you are trying to watch it late.
There is no point IMO to purchase an HD pass when you either don't have evidence of what the quality will be (NASL) or when previous have been underwhelming (MLG). I might buy an HD pass next time if MLG pans out as amazing as they are trying to make it.
Then again though, NASL had a TON of hype and disappointed most people. I hope this MLG will be different (:
On May 17 2011 14:59 Sworn wrote: I won't buy anything from MLG after all of the problems they've had at Dallas and all of the other SC2 tournaments they've held. Maybe if they did something for the people who didn't pay as well then maybe I would care and become a customer.
On June 04 2011 00:00 Slomo wrote: I voted for "Other" because I dont have time to watch all these games and they are played in a bad time for me in germany.
Indeed, also too much downtime between games - this especially sucks when you are trying to watch it late.
Should be way better this time around with 2 streams running non stop. Chances are if one stream is waiting on a game to get started, the other stream will have a game going.
But to the OP, if today's stream runs smoothly and looks good, I'll consider purchasing for the rest of the weekend and future events. So far the streaming has been sub-par (not just Dallas) so I gotta see it working before even considering paying for it.
I have a question that I might as well ask here. If you buy a pass, will there be VODs of this event similar to how GSL does it where if you buy a pass (season ticket) you can rewatch them anytime you want. I know they let you download the replays of the games for free (I think) but are there VODs of the actual casts that they stream?
I was contemplating getting an HD pass, I'll watch tonight to see how things go and possibly get one. The biggest draw back I have is I have no electricity at my house, so it's also dependant on WHEN i get my power back It's been 15 hrs and counting..
If they can keep eeverything smooth today, i'll probably get one.
The HD pass is only like 10 dollars or something like that, so regardless of the stream quality i am going to be buying one. going to do my part to support this awesome awesome tournament
On May 17 2011 14:59 Sworn wrote: I won't buy anything from MLG after all of the problems they've had at Dallas and all of the other SC2 tournaments they've held. Maybe if they did something for the people who didn't pay as well then maybe I would care and become a customer.
What the f?
I equally read this and remained confused. How do people think of these things.
Personally I'd never pay anything that can be watched for free as well. Call me egoist or whatnot, I just don't see any sense to it. I'd probably just rather not watch it than paying for it. That being said I don't like pay-TV or cinema a lot either, I just wait 'til its in TV or watch it over the interwebz.
I think their HQ is not really good(resolution wise), but I will end up purchasing probably just because I believe they setup a really good tournament this time around.
Unfortunately, I paid for the premium service.... and I am going to be asking for a refund.
OTHER:
I didn't pay for a premium pass just to watch obnoxious ads every 5 minutes. premium passes should cover the lost income from the ads (by like 100x... they only get like $0.02 per ad view), so why the <insert expletive> should i still have to watch ads?
Also, I'm sick of looking at black screens. Honestly, throw up an MLG Returning Soon... logo or something, ANYTHING, but the black screen.
Production value just isn't there. It's improved since Dallas, but still just simply doesn't compare to the GSL / NASL / TSL in any way. I understand it's a live LAN event.... but honestly guys, get your priorities straightened out.
Halo has the same size area as SC2 at MLG, and there are like 100x more people for the SC2 crowd then halo.... simply doesn't make sense. SC2 should be the #1 priority, to put it bluntly. It's like having the same budget for Women's basketball as it is for Men's basketball. Doesn't make sense.
On June 04 2011 14:00 PR4Y wrote: Unfortunately, I paid for the premium service.... and I am going to be asking for a refund.
OTHER:
I didn't pay for a premium pass just to watch obnoxious ads every 5 minutes. premium passes should cover the lost income from the ads (by like 100x... they only get like $0.02 per ad view), so why the <insert expletive> should i still have to watch ads?
Also, I'm sick of looking at black screens. Honestly, throw up an MLG Returning Soon... logo or something, ANYTHING, but the black screen.
Production value just isn't there. It's improved since Dallas, but still just simply doesn't compare to the GSL / NASL / TSL in any way. I understand it's a live LAN event.... but honestly guys, get your priorities straightened out.
Halo has the same size area as SC2 at MLG, and there are like 100x more people for the SC2 crowd then halo.... simply doesn't make sense. SC2 should be the #1 priority, to put it bluntly. It's like having the same budget for Women's basketball as it is for Men's basketball. Doesn't make sense.
I kind of agree with you, but not enough too not pay for it, the advertisements really should be gone for HQ, I'm hoping they are only showing this much because the HQ is for free - I'm hoping that when the payment goes through tomorrow it won't continuously show ads. I have the coupon thingy from last MLG and haven't applied it yet, assuming it will become available tomorrow.
I tried to buy a pass so I could watch the VODs from today since I had to work at 5. Yet I cannot find the go premium in the bottom right corner of the video.
MLG is displaying an amazing aray of games, production value, entertainment, and quality.
The only issue I have is the ads. I will STILL be paying $10 for a ticket, however its a bit of an annoyance that I have to listen to Fergie skull a Dr Pepper every 10 minutes.
I think it'd be a good idea to ask the VIEWERS what they want to pay in order to watch the HD. If you're still giving us ads, I think that'd be the fairer option. And, to be honest, i would pay more than $10. I appreciate that there are people out there that wouldn't, and I respect that. You only need to look at Star Nations (a feature length documentary) where MANY people have donated $15 and UP, where MLG is giving us 2 streams of SC2 over 3 days.
Or... Make it $10, still see the ads. make it $15 to get rid of the ads. At 0.02c per view, thats a few thousand ads.... You're not showing me that over 3 days. You get more money, I get a better viewing experience.
On June 04 2011 14:40 FordQuality wrote: I will never pay to watch other people play a game ><
Thats equal to saying "I will never pay to watch people throw a football."
With competative scene ANYWHERE, cost is involved. There needs to be a way to lower these costs to make it profitable, to make it an OPTION. 1) Audience. 2) Sponsors.
And events this size need both.
If you appreciate these events, and want to see more in the future you should ask if you can hang out the washing, or clean the windows for some pocket money.
On June 04 2011 14:40 FordQuality wrote: I will never pay to watch other people play a game ><
Thats equal to saying "I will never pay to watch people throw a football."
With competative scene ANYWHERE, cost is involved. There needs to be a way to lower these costs to make it profitable, to make it an OPTION. 1) Audience. 2) Sponsors.
And events this size need both.
If you appreciate these events, and want to see more in the future you should ask if you can hang out the washing, or clean the windows for some pocket money.
I wouldn't pay to do that either, not on tv or the internet at least, The only way i would dish out money for a competitive event is to actually be AT the event. I don't mind ads because i do recognize that the event does cost money to operate, Perhaps i should elaborate more. Lets give hockey as an example, I will not pay to watch hockey on tv or on the web because i feel some what disconnected from the event, however to see the games in person at the arena i would it do if I thought i had the money to spear because of the environment and connection you feel as well as the chance to actually meet the players, get what I'm trying to say?
I would've bought a HD pass if not for the fact that I'm in a different timezone and would've missed out on a lot of matches. The games looked great today... should've woken up early to watch!
I'm gonna be sticking with the standard pass because of my own internet limits. I can't handle one stream on high quality, let alone two. I'll let the ads run at least, because it's not like I want to cheat MLG out of money. It's just not worth it for me to spend the ten bucks.
I don't see how the production value etc aren't there. Wass it the the lack of moving cameras? It was wasn't it.
I was impressed with this and would definitely consider a HD pass if my internet wasn't so terrible and there weren't any commercials for HD pass holders. That should definitely be looked upon.
I would pay the $10 bucks if I was given the chance to never see another damn ad for the rest of my life. We the spectators know who the sponsors are since you've told us, the ads are just pushing it
No. Still too many issues with games, and I've learned from years of watching MLG wow and sc2 that "technical difficulties" is synonymous with MLG.
Not to mention.... they're just playing on Bnet? Wtf is that. Get the same client that GSL uses, ffs.
And the ads..... christ. Every time you switch quality or stream too? Like going from red stream to blue stream HD I have to watch 2 ads, I miss like a full minute of whatever game is going on from that. Wth?
On June 04 2011 15:14 fant0m wrote: No. Still too many issues with games, and I've learned from years of watching MLG wow and sc2 that "technical difficulties" is synonymous with MLG.
Not to mention.... they're just playing on Bnet? Wtf is that. Get the same client that GSL uses, ffs.
gsl goes over bnet too, there is no sc2 lan version
anyway i had a great experience with the mlg free hq today and if i wasn't going to be on the road for a decent portion of tomorrow i'd definitely buy the pass. already planning to for anaheim
On June 04 2011 15:14 fant0m wrote: No. Still too many issues with games, and I've learned from years of watching MLG wow and sc2 that "technical difficulties" is synonymous with MLG.
Not to mention.... they're just playing on Bnet? Wtf is that. Get the same client that GSL uses, ffs.
And the ads..... christ. Every time you switch quality or stream too? Like going from red stream to blue stream HD I have to watch 2 ads, I miss like a full minute of whatever game is going on from that. Wth?
Or blizzard can actually do something right for once and give us LAN support.
Stream went amazingly today. I'm really impressed with MLG - if I wasn't a student in college about to graduate I would definitely pay. Will be paying for Anaheim most likely as I will be working full-time then.
I'm a little sad about the BNET lag issues still - I feel really bad for the players because it hurts them the most when this happens.
But this just puts more emphasis on the fact there really needs to be some sort of LAN, even if they just give it to big tournies. (As if Blizzard hasn't already seen enough evidence for this /boggle).
On June 04 2011 14:46 BrahCJ wrote: The only issue I have is the ads. I will STILL be paying $10 for a ticket, however its a bit of an annoyance that I have to listen to Fergie skull a Dr Pepper every 10 minutes.
Wait wtf? I was going to buy the ticket JUST for the ads, but the ads are still there?
On June 04 2011 15:17 HeadDesk wrote: Stream went amazingly today. I'm really impressed with MLG - if I wasn't a student in college about to graduate I would definitely pay. Will be paying for Anaheim most likely as I will be working full-time then.
I'm a little sad about the BNET lag issues still - I feel really bad for the players because it hurts them the most when this happens.
But this just puts more emphasis on the fact there really needs to be some sort of LAN, even if they just give it to big tournies. (As if Blizzard hasn't already seen enough evidence for this /boggle).
Blizzard knows that having no LAN gives problems but they will not ever give lan access no matter how much evidence is shown because they do not want to lose control over thier game.
Undecided as well. Do want to reward all the great work by MLG, but I recently have spent on GSL and there's only so much I can put out on something I used to watch for free. (especially with so much free content).
On June 04 2011 16:09 Blackk wrote: Quit asking for lan. They know that third party servers will be up in a matter of months if they do that
Scratch that, what the guy above said. All the people you are referring to don't have the paid version now. If anything it will act negatively on sales since a lot of people will stay away due to it not having lan or at the very least won't be buying heart of the swarm because if they already bought WoL. I really think they would gain more money putting it in then keeping it out, as of right now i don't plan on buying hots. You will never get rid of piracy, but you can always get rid of paying customers.
Let's be honest guys, we all know that if SC2 had LAN, there would be MORE pirating issues. Sure you can get around bnet with private servers, but it definitely cuts out a lot of potential pirates since it's not as easy as setting up a hamachi connection.
I feel the problem with the HQ pass is that you get ads while switching to the hq stream, meaning as a paid user you will get more ads than a free user. I don't care about the ads between games, since watching ads or a black screen doesn't make much of a difference, but not allowing paid users mute the stream during ads seems kind of silly. Also, slow uploading of vods.
I will probably buy a HQ pass this event, but if these issues aren't fixed, I wont buy them in the future.
Sorry to say that the amount of ads i got from switching streams, and the length of those ads is a real turn off, although it might be because i don't watch TV, therefore i don't watch commercials.
did the restream crash for anyone else? I missed a lot of todays matches due to work and was going to watch them on the restream, but it crashed, just keeps saying "Updates in progress player will return shortly!" It's been doing this for about an hour now I think
On June 04 2011 16:44 JYN wrote: If MLG removed ads for the HD pass, I would buy one in a heart beat.
This pretty much sums it up. As long as I can see what's going on (as I can on the standard stream), that's fine for me. I don't work all weekend otherwise I'd maybe buy it for the VODs but if I'm watching live but still getting just as many ads there's not really any point for me. I'll just order a pizza to eat while watching the free stream with that 10 bucks.
Player stretching the video full-screened to 16:10 resolutions is horrible. FIX THAT. (I guess it does the same to 5:4 Monitor users, which are still far more common than 16:10, probably around even in numbers to 16 : 9 users - anyway, a lot of potential HD pass buyers that will never ever consider to get it due to the totally fucked up picture in full screen for them).
LQ stream is damn blurry, but okay for free. HQ is still too blurry. It's actually close to the point where you could not read the supply numbers and that is imho not worth $10 for only 3 days, especially since the ads are not removed.
Pro-Tip: Your reputation further decreases due to the black screen for people who block the ads (since people are so "special" that they think the stream is not working).
Edit: Also, the players were not loud enough in their interviews compared to the interviewer and the commentators. Nobody likes to adjust the volume all the time. Even worse if you have to make it so loud to understand one of the two guys talking, that the other will be heard by all of your neighbors.
On June 04 2011 16:48 Jtn wrote: Let's be honest guys, we all know that if SC2 had LAN, there would be MORE pirating issues. Sure you can get around bnet with private servers, but it definitely cuts out a lot of potential pirates since it's not as easy as setting up a hamachi connection.
You are kidding me right? Hamachi is super easy to set up.I'd say a good 90% of the people who would pirate it either don't have it or can't afford it now. Then you have to take into account the people who avoided buying wol and possibly pirated it because of the lack of lan out of pure spite. As an example I'm not purchasing HotS out of spite for a few reasons, one of them of course being LAN.
Actually can't find how to buy an HD pass wich seems kinda silly. Following the instructions tells me to click "get premium" in the stream window, wich is something I can't
On June 04 2011 16:49 papaz wrote: I will never ever buy anything from MLG because those guys just doesn't do things right.
- ads on HQ - where the hell are the vods?
How can GSL get things right right off the bat where MLG still has these "feedback to MLG" threads? and "will you pay for MLG"?
Wtf... they ALREADY have vods up even if you're not paying... and they are HD! Are you just trying to complain? I think it would be completely reasonable if they waited until awhile after the event ended before putting them up, and maybe even for paying customers only... but no. They are ALREADY UP and yet you are complaining as well as completely unwilling to support them. People like you who look at every little thing as bad in these events really annoy me.
As for the ads on the HQ... I don't really see the problem. If they got rid of the ads for the paying customers, you would just have a black screen. There is no content during those commercials. If it really bothers you that much you can just mute the commercials and minimize... lmfao. Such a petty complaint.
On June 04 2011 16:49 papaz wrote: I will never ever buy anything from MLG because those guys just doesn't do things right.
- ads on HQ - where the hell are the vods?
How can GSL get things right right off the bat where MLG still has these "feedback to MLG" threads? and "will you pay for MLG"?
Wtf... they ALREADY have vods up even if you're not paying... and they are HD! Are you just trying to complain? I think it would be completely reasonable if they waited until awhile after the event ended before putting them up, and maybe even for paying customers only... but no. They are ALREADY UP and yet you are complaining as well as completely unwilling to support them. People like you who look at every little thing as bad in these events really annoy me.
As for the ads on the HQ... I don't really see the problem. If they got rid of the ads for the paying customers, you would just have a black screen. There is no content during those commercials. If it really bothers you that much you can just mute the commercials and minimize... lmfao. Such a petty complaint.
On June 04 2011 14:38 HaVoX wrote: I tried to buy a pass so I could watch the VODs from today since I had to work at 5. Yet I cannot find the go premium in the bottom right corner of the video.
I too tried to purchase the $10 service but am not sure exactly how to. I've been running around in circles trying to purchase. It isn't as intuitive as the GOMTV.net feature to be honest.
"To purchase your HQ (High Quality) pass for the Columbus 2011 Pro Circuit, head over to the Live Pro Circuit Page and complete your order within the Streamworks video player. Click the "Get Premium" link in the bottom right hand corner to begin the purchase process.You'll need to use a credit card or Paypal. During the Pro Circuit weekend your virtual HQ pass purchase will allow you to view the Pro Circuit in High Quality.You will also see your stream quality indicator in the bottom right of the player upgrade to "High" quality."
It's just a never ending loop for me. Is the stream works video player a stand alone program like the gomtv viewer?
The whole streams in two large vods (7/8 hrs). You can fast forward to what you wanna see. Don't look at the rest of the page though, it's loaded with spoilers.
I'm not buying a ticket, cos MLG is embarrassing with all the lags :/. No need to see commentators face in HD, when they want to facepalm over their failing employers. "They DO have 2 internet satellites!"
On June 04 2011 14:40 FordQuality wrote: I will never pay to watch other people play a game ><
Thats equal to saying "I will never pay to watch people throw a football."
With competative scene ANYWHERE, cost is involved. There needs to be a way to lower these costs to make it profitable, to make it an OPTION. 1) Audience. 2) Sponsors.
And events this size need both.
If you appreciate these events, and want to see more in the future you should ask if you can hang out the washing, or clean the windows for some pocket money.
I wouldn't pay to do that either, not on tv or the internet at least, The only way i would dish out money for a competitive event is to actually be AT the event. I don't mind ads because i do recognize that the event does cost money to operate, Perhaps i should elaborate more. Lets give hockey as an example, I will not pay to watch hockey on tv or on the web because i feel some what disconnected from the event, however to see the games in person at the arena i would it do if I thought i had the money to spear because of the environment and connection you feel as well as the chance to actually meet the players, get what I'm trying to say?
Not really, pretty hard to understand this viewpoint.
Way too much downtime in the MLG events, commercials every 15 mins and alot of other crappyness that just doesn't make the event enjoyable.
Also I've never been a fan of wheat casting, just alot of screaming and just ruins the whole experience. Wouldve probably watched the event if there was a decent co-caster along with day9. Luckely this time we've got artosis and tasteless <3
Also the quality is usually crappy at these events for some reason, and somehow they always manage to have technical issues for the players which just makes the event drawn-out and exhausting to try to follow.
I've given up MLG a long time ago, waiting patiently for DH!
Click the button that looks likes a list in the lower right corner between the Quality Button and Full Screen Button and the VOds will show up below the main viewing window.
On June 05 2011 00:05 Marzocchi wrote: The VOD's are up from yesterday.
Click the button that looks likes a list in the lower right corner between the Quality Button and Full Screen Button and the VOds will show up below the main viewing window.
"Get Premium" no where to be found on the SC2 players OR the reach/cod players.
A little gold button does appear in the bottom right of the stream every now and again but you'd need 900APM and epic micro to click the thing before it vanishes again. Damnit MLG, let me give you my money.
Weirdly enough though the HQ stream is working for me anyway today?
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Is it just me, or is there not much of a difference between HQ and LQ streams? Or is it telling me I'm looking at the HQ stream and just lieing to me. During yesterdays games, text for supply/resources was very fuzzy and barely readable.
On June 05 2011 00:20 VillageBC wrote: Is it just me, or is there not much of a difference between HQ and LQ streams? Or is it telling me I'm looking at the HQ stream and just lieing to me. During yesterdays games, text for supply/resources was very fuzzy and barely readable.
small size you wont notice a difference full screen you will
On June 05 2011 00:20 VillageBC wrote: Is it just me, or is there not much of a difference between HQ and LQ streams? Or is it telling me I'm looking at the HQ stream and just lieing to me. During yesterdays games, text for supply/resources was very fuzzy and barely readable.
small size you wont notice a difference full screen you will
I've fullscreened both, not much difference between the two. Perhaps it's this 16:10 monitor issue I've read about. It looks better on my secondary 4:3 monitor.
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