I will update this thread with all my new StarCraft rap videos. They are coming soon.
Enjoy !
EDIT: It will take me a little longer to post all my StarCraft raps as I am working on improving the quality of my videos. Be patient and I will slowly but steadily continue to update this thread with all my starcraft raps. I had lots of fun making the ones that are on youtube right now and I appreciate all the views / comments guys!
Way too much niggas 'n shit for StarCraft man.. It's a pretty civilized and quite highclass game, not a subject for gangsta-rap. NerdAlert and Husky are doing it the way it's supposed to be done, so that it's funny, not a hardcore nigga killing gangstarap yo!
When compared to the great songs in the SC2 community such as the good ol' Terran OP or the recent Fly like Aiur, this doesn't even come close to those.
Perhaps expectations are high because of what terrific musicians have done in the past, but one way or another, I was disappointed.
When compared to the great songs in the SC2 community such as the good ol' Terran OP or the recent Fly like Aiur, this doesn't even come close to those.
Perhaps expectations are high because of what terrific musicians have done in the past, but one way or another, I was disappointed.
Perhaps I was a little harsh. I dont mean to hold it to the standard of the very best, but for him to claim it's a dope track is either severely misguided or a straight troll :p
i've lost all "vibe" or respect for modern raps with "nigga that, nigga this, shit, blah blah" gangsta rap. it was dope with NWA, it was crazy dope with tupac and biggie. now its just no where, at least for me.
write some clean and witty stuff, get rid of that gangsta style tone and i think you'll get some positive response
dont mind me though, 99% of hiphop i still listen to is pre-2000 so my views may be biased.
It's terrible, cringed while watching. Is this what this new generation of MTV gangsta rap has done to the lyrics, flows and samples? Was going through my head. I would take a step back, and give your stuff a new look after watching some classic hip hop that makes you cry because it's so poetic. And try to not cam acting up. It's about the music, nobody cares if you imitate TV.
It's definitely not terrible. I've got a few suggestions on things to improve, but I don't know what Lennon is about. 1. The background music is too 'background' What you need to do in my opinion is record the vocals track and mix it in post production. So you have the music, play that in your earphones as you rap and record the voice track. Then afterwards you mix both tracks together with an audio editing software (no clue what the good ones are sorry). Do this and I think your sound improves a hundredfold. 2. I'm not a fan of the unnecessary "bitches" and such. I don't mind a good one dropped in context (nuke yo mother splinging base for example). But when they're just there for free they turn me off.
The vocabulary is decent, but could have more depth, and more specifically more Starcraft references. Still, decent work. GG
I thought the rule was only black people could say the N word publicly.
And you have flow, sure, and the rhythm was consistently on-beat. But the lyrics are mundane, obscene, and don't really pertain to the game. There was a rap a week or two back about 3 ambitious units (baneling, zealot and marine?) that was a lot more clever. You could learn from that.
And stop using swear words and attitude as a front to dismiss all the criticism, you're pretty transparent.
Well thats not cool. All you haters who say it's bad don't even appreciate all the awesome lines i threw in there.
haha.
but i do appreciate those legitimate responses with legitimate criticism. I will improve on the quality trust me ^^;
and to kristiS: Yes but unlike most people, I think starcraft is gangster. I don't see it so much as high class and fancy and whatnot. I think its just the coolest game ever haha. I think its THE GAME. Lol... played brood war for years and starcraft II is the only game I play now. =P
so yeah I dig all that hard rap stuff so I made a hard rap about starcraft haha.
Actually not bad, but your inability to accept the criticisms of others is quite offputting. I would suggest cleaning up your rap (nobody on TL wants to hear the N-word), and adopting a more humble attitude. Take that "anyone who says its terrible obviously doesn't listen to rap music" to YouTube. That being said, I could see you doing something a little better in the future.
no offence but the production wasn't that great and it caused your voice to sound a bit high, and painful for my ears, the lyrics are ok, but you might want to get a better mic or something
Thanks to all your responses so far. Okay okay, that was only rap #1. I've written raps with less cursing (for example in one song I say "shit" only twice, thats it)
And yeah, those other raps reference StarCraft so much better. I agree. I really did this one for fun though. It's all for enjoyment and laughter, I don't see why other people so offended by it lol. I'm a rapper and I curse so what haha. But yeah I agree it is excessive in that particular rap.
I'll update this thread with my next raps. I'll post a good old one I wrote tomorrow. It's my protoss rap ^^;
On May 17 2011 09:09 Datum wrote: Actually not bad, but your inability to accept the criticisms of others is quite offputting. I would suggest cleaning up your rap (nobody on TL wants to hear the N-word), and adopting a more humble attitude. Take that "anyone who says its terrible obviously doesn't listen to rap music" to YouTube. That being said, I could see you doing something a little better in the future.
Okay. This was a nice experience for me. I learned what people from TL prefer. And I shall take that advice. =D
On May 17 2011 09:08 FMJ wrote: I thought the rule was only black people could say the N word publicly.
He looks at least half black, no?
Maybe if you added a NSFW tag or something people would stop being such haters. At least then people who are easily offended can only blame themselves.
On May 17 2011 10:27 Papulatus wrote: yo whats with all the hate this is st8 gangsta representin dat teamliquid.net
TL FO EVER
Someone feels me around here haha yeaaah. I'm sayin whats up to teamliquid here haha. I'm gonna make a rap about teamliquid. Coming soon... very soon... .... .... by tomorrow~
On May 17 2011 10:39 sFgSqooosh wrote: did you just say your gonna RAM these tanks up my but? if this is a joke it fuckin hilarious. if its serious I don't know what to tell you brah.
It's OBVIOUSLY a joke. lol... what else could it be??
The other people complaining couldn't throw two lines together and make it rhyme, don't fret. Obviously you don't have the production value other people have posted, but it's still decent.
Heres my honest opinion, you do have a lot of potential to rap, but this is like gutter gutter, low life bassically "i'ma kill you and sell drugs, fuck ur bitch, and do w/e the fuck i want cuz im a badass" type of rap, I think you need to think harder about your rhymes and not just say curse words, and starcraft all the time, if you really want to take your rapping or starcraft rapping to the next level then actually use word play instead of trying to sound hard by cursing. Other than that the way you made some words rhyme was pretty good. Keep it up but seriously, work on your word play and don't just curse a lot to try to sound ' hard ' or cool.
EDIT : the 2nd rap you did about protoss build orders was a lot better that time man, good job.
Troll. I got through 30 seconds of the "rapper" talking about how "hard" he spits, then 10 seconds of what could possibly be the worst written bars in rap history. Don't waste your time with this. It's not even funny-bad.
It would seem hard to make something sound sick with just saying stuff at your desk looking into a camera. The only time these types of songs are good is with good production value, where its entertaining to see how much work got put into it.
But rap sucks...and nobody in the world would be able to put together a rap about starcraft with no production value and have it be "sick"
Because rap by itself isnt "sick"....its actually pretty retarded.
On May 18 2011 02:37 RoachyRoach wrote: Rap kinda sucks...
It would seem hard to make something sound sick with just saying stuff at your desk looking into a camera. The only time these types of songs are good is with good production value, where its entertaining to see how much work got put into it.
But rap sucks...and nobody in the world would be able to put together a rap about starcraft with no production value and have it be "sick"
Because rap by itself isnt "sick"....its actually pretty retarded.
Just because you don't like a music genre doesn't mean it is objectively terrible...
Is this shit for real? It's an insult to anyone who's into real rap. Rap's about expressing feelings and digesting the life you've had. You rap about a video game which is of no importance and toss a few cuss words in it. I might as well turn on the radio, which equals really bad.
On May 18 2011 02:32 AimForTheBushes wrote: Troll. I got through 30 seconds of the "rapper" talking about how "hard" he spits, then 10 seconds of what could possibly be the worst written bars in rap history. Don't waste your time with this. It's not even funny-bad.
What are you talking about? haha...
If anything you're the troll.
That rap is tight lol. More to come too.
I suggest you check out my Protoss build order rap, it's not "hard" and its not heavy on cursing like the first one.
and worst rap bars written in history? lol? you're funny. And yes its funny he only watched 10 seconds of the rap, he didn't even get to the funniest lines. :p
after reading the first few comments i expected some bad troll thing, but it wasn't that bad, don't know why people even post troll comments instead of actual criticism
i don't even really like the style of rap but i though the lyrics were pretty good its just the sound quality that was low
On May 18 2011 02:44 decaf wrote: Is this shit for real? It's an insult to anyone who's into real rap. Rap's about expressing feelings and digesting the life you've had. You rap about a video game which is of no importance and toss a few cuss words in it. I might as well turn on the radio, which equals really bad.
okay bro, look. I'm a rapper and I'm most definitely into real rap as well. I've written real raps before. I've freestyled about my life and whats going on in the moment many times in the past. I can rap real.
These are starcraft raps. Purely for fun. Don't be hatin.
On May 18 2011 02:37 RoachyRoach wrote: Rap kinda sucks...
It would seem hard to make something sound sick with just saying stuff at your desk looking into a camera. The only time these types of songs are good is with good production value, where its entertaining to see how much work got put into it.
But rap sucks...and nobody in the world would be able to put together a rap about starcraft with no production value and have it be "sick"
Because rap by itself isnt "sick"....its actually pretty retarded.
Just because you don't like a music genre doesn't mean it is objectively terrible...
Tell me that sucks.
Dont get me wrong, I love all the greats. Dead prez, Nas, Biggie, Immortal Technique etc. I like certain raps, but only the ones that are actually clever and actualy mean something. I just dont like the swell of posers that came after rap was good. Where rap stopped being about a messege and started to be about whos harder and has more money and bitches.
I should have rephrased. Todays rap is retarded.
But if someone aspires to rhyme words to try to act all hard as fuck...then to each his own.
Well my opinion is that you can be less agressive and gansta and throw in more lines about sc2 and you will do a better job even tho i liked it! But it's like some dudes say i simply don't have patience for gansta rapping where all you hear is ho, bitch, suck, slut, nigga this, nigga that, pop you, pop it, pop that, being popped, pop you momma, don't pop me, money and pigs
you kinda look like pharrell so you might have some future in there.. hehe
On May 18 2011 02:37 RoachyRoach wrote: Rap kinda sucks...
It would seem hard to make something sound sick with just saying stuff at your desk looking into a camera. The only time these types of songs are good is with good production value, where its entertaining to see how much work got put into it.
But rap sucks...and nobody in the world would be able to put together a rap about starcraft with no production value and have it be "sick"
Because rap by itself isnt "sick"....its actually pretty retarded.
I can't tell if you're trolling or if you got dropped on your head as a child.
Of course the rap in the radio is terrible, but hip-hop is still great. The roots, mf doom, tribe called quest, binary star, GZA...
On May 18 2011 02:37 RoachyRoach wrote: Rap kinda sucks...
It would seem hard to make something sound sick with just saying stuff at your desk looking into a camera. The only time these types of songs are good is with good production value, where its entertaining to see how much work got put into it.
But rap sucks...and nobody in the world would be able to put together a rap about starcraft with no production value and have it be "sick"
Because rap by itself isnt "sick"....its actually pretty retarded.
You made me rage so hard, who are you to comment on a type of music or say it sucks. Rap has more meaning and better lyrics than half of the shit you listen to.
Dont get me wrong, I love all the greats. Dead prez, Nas, Biggie, Immortal Technique etc. I like certain raps, but only the ones that are actually clever and actualy mean something. I just dont like the swell of posers that came after rap was good. Where rap stopped being about a messege and started to be about whos harder and has more money and bitches.
I should have rephrased. Todays rap is retarded.
But if someone aspires to rhyme words to try to act all hard as fuck...then to each his own.
You obviously haven't watched the second one. haha. That one does not go for the "hard" image thing. And its funny how you think thats all I do. U think thats me, a fake "hard" G or whatever lol thats funny. u dont actually know me so thats okay to make that assumption.
Yeah most raps I write actually have meaning behind them. Raps that talk about the right mentality. I spit some spiritual shit too in some of my raps. But these are starcraft raps. I make them for fun.
Just chill out bro. Have fun with it. Raps tight btw idk what ur talkin about lol.
Yeah boi, mad tight. Specially when you tell people to "eat my turd", so tight.
The only rap right now that's kept any shadow of the good ol' days of rap is in the underground. Turn on the radio if you want to hear mindless drivel.
On May 18 2011 03:21 Zdrastochye wrote: Yeah boi, mad tight. Specially when you tell people to "eat my turd", so tight.
The only rap right now that's kept any shadow of the good ol' days of rap is in the underground. Turn on the radio if you want to hear mindless drivel.
Wanna know whats so great about rap? It's the only genre where you can just freestyle and literally write whatever the hell you want to write. It's so expressive. With other music it's more like you're writing lyrics. But with rap you can just feel free to write whatever you want. So I like to write raps about StarCraft. Haha. There isn't anything wrong with that.
So this is just me expressin my passion for starcraft. Don't hate, Appreciate!
On May 18 2011 03:34 zarepath wrote: I don't know that I can take you seriously as a rapper until you put some more haha's and lol's in your posts.
Okay then. Fine. I'll show you guys my actual rapping skills. I'll go make a freestyle video right now and post it. I've been rapping for a while. And if u ask anyone who knows me, they will tell you that I rap all the time!! all the time!! I rap in school as I'm walking to class. I rap with other rappers when we cypher. I even rapped while getting a haircut one time. I asked the lady that was gonna cut my hair if I could rap as she gave me a haircut and I did it. haha.
I do this for the lulz baby!
But yeah I can rap good. Watch the video It will be posted really soon. Definitely today.
On May 18 2011 03:51 raf3776 wrote: Put some production into the songs. Take away the video. Record your voice, put it over a beat, then come back and post the songs.
Oh man. Would I love to do that. No tools man. It's expensive. Some friends said they'd get me in the studio. Hasn't happened yet though. So for now this is the quality of production I have. I'm greatful for at least being able to post it on youtube and at least you can hear and understand the lyrics. As far as listening quality I understand it. But at least you can appreciate the rap itself.
On May 18 2011 03:51 raf3776 wrote: Put some production into the songs. Take away the video. Record your voice, put it over a beat, then come back and post the songs.
Oh man. Would I love to do that. No tools man. It's expensive. Some friends said they'd get me in the studio. Hasn't happened yet though. So for now this is the quality of production I have. I'm greatful for at least being able to post it on youtube and at least you can hear and understand the lyrics. As far as listening quality I understand it. But at least you can appreciate the rap itself.
I really appreciate comments like this.
You dont need anything expensive. There are free programs. you can also just convert your video to mp3 n just the lyrics than use a program like audactiy or cool edit and put the music in the back. most starcraft fans wanna hear a song not just lyrics.
On May 18 2011 03:51 raf3776 wrote: Put some production into the songs. Take away the video. Record your voice, put it over a beat, then come back and post the songs.
Oh man. Would I love to do that. No tools man. It's expensive. Some friends said they'd get me in the studio. Hasn't happened yet though. So for now this is the quality of production I have. I'm greatful for at least being able to post it on youtube and at least you can hear and understand the lyrics. As far as listening quality I understand it. But at least you can appreciate the rap itself.
I really appreciate comments like this.
You dont need anything expensive. There are free programs. you can also just convert your video to mp3 n just the lyrics than use a program like audactiy or cool edit and put the music in the back. most starcraft fans wanna hear a song not just lyrics.
I have and use Fruity Loops Studio, I can make mp3's no problem. I just need a good mic really... I'll do my best to come up with the money to get this new mic.
On May 18 2011 02:37 RoachyRoach wrote: Rap kinda sucks...
It would seem hard to make something sound sick with just saying stuff at your desk looking into a camera. The only time these types of songs are good is with good production value, where its entertaining to see how much work got put into it.
But rap sucks...and nobody in the world would be able to put together a rap about starcraft with no production value and have it be "sick"
Because rap by itself isnt "sick"....its actually pretty retarded.
You made me rage so hard, who are you to comment on a type of music or say it sucks. Rap has more meaning and better lyrics than half of the shit you listen to.
Dont make stupid comments like this please.
Its called an opinion jackass. I have as much right to say that rap sucks as you have the right to say it doesnt.
And like I said, I dont hate rap. I hate modern rap.
"Rap has more meaning and better lyrics than half of the shit you listen to. " no it doesnt. kk?
Bro you think WAY too highly of yourself, that wasn't that great and you're acting like it was amazing. I'm not saying that it was terrible but it wasn't amazing.
On May 18 2011 05:16 david.oh.k wrote: Bro you think WAY too highly of yourself, that wasn't that great and you're acting like it was amazing. I'm not saying that it was terrible but it wasn't amazing.
I don't think way too highly of myself. I'm just naturally confident. Ain't nothing wrong with being openly happy with myself. You should praise me for this instead of try to put me down because alot of people are insecure and have problems showing off what they got. They afraid of others. I just dont care at all what other people think (if its negative) so I'm just keepin it all positive and good.
It was a freestyle video. whatever came out during that freestyle came out. You might not consider it amazing but it was definitely good I think.
You perceive it as me acting like it was amazing. Thats just me having fun. And rapping feels amazing so that should explain to you my attitude.
not too bad. you're comin off too gangsta-like for TL's liking though. "i only listen to thoughtful nerd rap" - i used to be like this too. your style isn't my favorite, but lotta fools here are just ignoring talent because of it.
On May 18 2011 06:00 Lennon wrote: Which hip-hop artists do you enjoy listening to?
I just love rap in general. So I'd honestly listen to any artist and still enjoy it. As long as there's good beat and the rapper is flowin I'd listen to it and like it.
Some artists that I like are: Tupac (he's so dope), Bone Thugs, Atmosphere (he raps some real shit), Vinnie Paz (if you dont know him check him out he's real good underground), Papoose (he's goes so hard, this guy is sick), Roy Jones (Some of his songs are really hard for example "Can't be touched"), Wow... Theres just so many artists I like I could keep on going. I listen to all types of rap, I like them all. Rap to me is super dope and fun to do.
On May 18 2011 06:03 Shigy wrote: not too bad. you're comin off too gangsta-like for TL's liking though. "i only listen to thoughtful nerd rap" - i used to be like this too. your style isn't my favorite, but lotta fools here are just ignoring talent because of it.
haters gonna hate!
I don't know man. I just dont consider my attitude to be gangster. In all honesty I just vibe and feel the music of rap. Doesn't mean I'm gangster-like. I see why other people would think that. They think rap and they think gangster. I dont got guns. I dont live in the hood. I'm not gangsta at all. I just dig rap and feel it's dopeness. However, I do agree that statement could be said about the "Nuke You" rap. The first one.
The protoss build order one is not gangsta at all. That's how all my other starcraft raps are.
Wait for the others one. When the number of non-gangsta raps outnumber that one gangsta style rap people should calm down a little bit I hope.
On May 18 2011 05:16 david.oh.k wrote: Bro you think WAY too highly of yourself, that wasn't that great and you're acting like it was amazing. I'm not saying that it was terrible but it wasn't amazing.
I don't think way too highly of myself. I'm just naturally confident. Ain't nothing wrong with being openly happy with myself. You should praise me for this instead of try to put me down because alot of people are insecure and have problems showing off what they got. They afraid of others. I just dont care at all what other people think (if its negative) so I'm just keepin it all positive and good.
It was a freestyle video. whatever came out during that freestyle came out. You might not consider it amazing but it was definitely good I think.
You perceive it as me acting like it was amazing. Thats just me having fun. And rapping feels amazing so that should explain to you my attitude.
haha i love that response video.
Its not about bein confident. U cant just be like "nah ur wrong im the shit" to all the people who say its bad. thats not confidence. Ull get no where trying to please yourself but youll get nowhere trying to please everyone. But tellin people their opinion is wrong is jus dumb
LOL man , your response video is ridiculous man... Seriously before you start saying you are a good rapper, you should actually become a good rapper, your friend is so horrible its hillarious to watch, no offense. But man really you guys are very amateurish and your word play / rhyming ability is really not very good, you barely made any rhymes the whole entire video. You had a couple of good lines that you couldn't follow up to be honest, you have a lot of potential with your voice, and how you look ect. , but that means nothing if you don't actually try and just try to look / sound cool the whole time, put in effort and work.
On May 18 2011 06:21 raf3776 wrote: Its not about bein confident. U cant just be like "nah ur wrong im the shit" to all the people who say its bad. thats not confidence. Ull get no where trying to please yourself but youll get nowhere trying to please everyone. But tellin people their opinion is wrong is jus dumb
Look. Confidence is VERY important for rap. If you're confident you will end up sounding right. I'm confident and I rapped fine in that video. And yes I think I'm good. Other people (that heard me in real life say i'm good all the time) which is what led me to think I'm good. So yeah. I hope you get that.
I never said their opinion is wrong or nothing. The response video was to show you guys I can freestyle too and I can actually rap.
I'm not a bad rapper. Don't ignore talent haha.
I'm not trying to please myself or please anybody. I'm having fun boyy.
On May 18 2011 06:23 GGzerG wrote: LOL man , your response video is ridiculous man... Seriously before you start saying you are a good rapper, you should actually become a good rapper, .
I already am a good rapper according to the many people I know and rap to in real life. So you telling me this is hilarious.
your friend is so horrible its hillarious to watch, no offense. But man really you guys are very amateurish and your word play / rhyming ability is really not very good,
Okay buddy, you got a big mouth like you can rap better or something. Show me you rap better haha. And no that video is legit. If you dig rap, you'll dig this.
you barely made any rhymes the whole entire video.
That's a lie right there haha. U obviously didn't watch the video or listen to it at all if you think I didn't rhyme. Trolls will always be trolls.
You had a couple of good lines that you couldn't follow up to be honest, you have a lot of potential with your voice, and how you look ect. , but that means nothing if you don't actually try and just try to look / sound cool the whole time, put in effort and work
You seriously watched that and thought I didn't actually try to look / sound cool??
On May 17 2011 08:57 KristiS wrote: Way too much niggas 'n shit for StarCraft man.. It's a pretty civilized and quite highclass game, not a subject for gangsta-rap. NerdAlert and Husky are doing it the way it's supposed to be done, so that it's funny, not a hardcore nigga killing gangstarap yo!
But that's just my honest opinion!
Husky wouldn't get a single view w/o this Kurt guy... His rap was about as bad as it could get. He can't be doin it the way it's supposed to be done if he can't do it at all.
This shit is good tho. Keep on rappin, but do sth with the production quality.
This is not one of the only two 'rap' songs i like at all, therefore, I do not think it is good. However, this isn't my usual genre, so don't take this too seriously.
On May 18 2011 07:23 delHospital wrote: Husky wouldn't get a single view w/o this Kurt guy... His rap was about as bad as it could get. He can't be doin it the way it's supposed to be done if he can't do it at all.
This shit is good tho. Keep on rappin, but do sth with the production quality.
Yeah I'll work on the production quality. But for now this is all I can do. At least you can hear the rap itself so that's good.
I didn't like it, but it's probably because I never liked rap. However, anything that is done for the community has my support and if rapping is your thing, keep doing it and I'm sure lots of community members will enjoy it Keep it up!
On May 18 2011 07:51 slimshady wrote: I think you have potential, you just need to polish production quality. I'm a rap fan too. West side! :D
haha yeaaah thats whats up xD More of my starcraft raps will be released this week. I'm so happy lol. The response video to the haters on this thread was great too lol.
ok, so I just took my time and watched all my videos over and over again. I was really good in the freestyle video reply to the haters on this thread.
Anyone who is reading this thread needs to watch that video, it's epic lulz Here's the link:
And I kept it real throughout all the other videos too. I'm honestly convinced that anyone who flames me for making these rap videos is either 1. a troll (Most of them are this, I think) 2. someone who is against rap (for some of those really negative responses) 3. someone who is easily offended by cursing 4. someone stupid
These videos are dope. no doubt about it. if you like rap, and you're a rap listener, you will like my raps. I'm a rapper and a rap listener myself and I just love all rap. If someone is spittin and he got a beat going I'll listen. And I'll actually listen to what he says in the rap too. The raps I wrote have good lines. It's entertaining as fuck.
everyone listen to these raps. you'll know what I mean.
On May 18 2011 06:21 raf3776 wrote: Its not about bein confident. U cant just be like "nah ur wrong im the shit" to all the people who say its bad. thats not confidence. Ull get no where trying to please yourself but youll get nowhere trying to please everyone. But tellin people their opinion is wrong is jus dumb
Look. Confidence is VERY important for rap. If you're confident you will end up sounding right. I'm confident and I rapped fine in that video. And yes I think I'm good. Other people (that heard me in real life say i'm good all the time) which is what led me to think I'm good. So yeah. I hope you get that.
I never said their opinion is wrong or nothing. The response video was to show you guys I can freestyle too and I can actually rap.
I'm not a bad rapper. Don't ignore talent haha.
I'm not trying to please myself or please anybody. I'm having fun boyy.
See there you go again, do you hear yourself? You're trying so hard to think of something to say back to everyone who criticizes you. If you think you're good well here's a tip, learn to take criticism. Even if someone's trolling you, you think trolling them back is going to help at all? No, it just makes you seem arrogant to people. And really? "I'm not a bad rapper. Don't ignore talent haha." stop being so cocky about your so called talent.
Keep going man! Fuck the haters dude. It's some entertaining stuff. These elitist people are just too used to the autotuned songs we've gotten so far. Keep it real, keep it legit!
On May 17 2011 08:57 KristiS wrote: Way too much niggas 'n shit for StarCraft man.. It's a pretty civilized and quite highclass game, not a subject for gangsta-rap. NerdAlert and Husky are doing it the way it's supposed to be done, so that it's funny, not a hardcore nigga killing gangstarap yo!
But that's just my honest opinion!
Holy crap, and you say he thinks highly of himself. Calling yourself and every other regular human being playing this game highclass. You're the very reason so few black people play this game, insane racism man, not cool, not cool.
On May 18 2011 10:10 Bacon-X wrote: ok, so I just took my time and watched all my videos over and over again. I was really good in the freestyle video reply to the haters on this thread.
And I kept it real throughout all the other videos too. I'm honestly convinced that anyone who flames me for making these rap videos is either 1. a troll (Most of them are this, I think) 2. someone who is against rap (for some of those really negative responses) 3. someone who is easily offended by cursing 4. someone stupid
These videos are dope. no doubt about it. if you like rap, and you're a rap listener, you will like my raps. I'm a rapper and a rap listener myself and I just love all rap. If someone is spittin and he got a beat going I'll listen. And I'll actually listen to what he says in the rap too. The raps I wrote have good lines. It's entertaining as fuck.
everyone listen to these raps. you'll know what I mean.
lol this is what im talking about when i was saying thats not confidence... Its just a dumb way 2 think
I'm not trying to please myself or please anybody. I'm having fun boyy.
See there you go again, do you hear yourself? You're trying so hard to think of something to say back to everyone who criticizes you.
No. I'm not trying to think of something to say back to anyone who criticizes me. Where did you come up with that? I don't care about people who criticize me. I'm chill with it. Haha. Wow. You just made a fool of yourself.
Ok... what else did you write?
If you think you're good well here's a tip, learn to take criticism. Even if someone's trolling you, you think trolling them back is going to help at all?
No not at all. I don't troll anyone back. I come with an open mind and try to understand. And if its just simply retarded and its a troll I answer it properly and thoroughly (Like this post for example). I'm assuming you're trolling me right now because you're assuming alot of untrue things.
No, it just makes you seem arrogant to people. And really? "I'm not a bad rapper. Don't ignore talent haha." stop being so cocky about your so called talent.
LOL... is it so hard to listen to that rap?
Just calm down buddy. Relax. I'm openly proud of my talent. It's not arrogance because I'm open minded and allow criticism. I definitely don't agree with some of it, like people who think the videos are bad. I think they're DOPE!
Bro, responses like this aren't criticism, they are just extremely narrow minded or just complete trolls. Thanks for your time.
You are getting flamed for posting threads standing out from the majority of the community, welcome to TeamLiquid and I wish you enjoy your stay.
I honestly would just focus to improve next time, we have some terrible posters here going like "Terrible" by itself and "Is this a troll?" Simply ignore these people. Good luck in the new future, the lyrics could be a little for funnier and civilized, but overall you have a good idea of SC rapping. Also spend a few more money or time to increase the video and audio quality.
On May 18 2011 10:10 Bacon-X wrote: ok, so I just took my time and watched all my videos over and over again. I was really good in the freestyle video reply to the haters on this thread.
And I kept it real throughout all the other videos too. I'm honestly convinced that anyone who flames me for making these rap videos is either 1. a troll (Most of them are this, I think) 2. someone who is against rap (for some of those really negative responses) 3. someone who is easily offended by cursing 4. someone stupid
These videos are dope. no doubt about it. if you like rap, and you're a rap listener, you will like my raps. I'm a rapper and a rap listener myself and I just love all rap. If someone is spittin and he got a beat going I'll listen. And I'll actually listen to what he says in the rap too. The raps I wrote have good lines. It's entertaining as fuck.
everyone listen to these raps. you'll know what I mean.
lol this is what im talking about when i was saying thats not confidence... Its just a dumb way 2 think
First of all I like being confident, thats who i am. I don't have no fear from haters. This is the best way to think. Anyone who thinks its a dumb way to think is extremely ignorant, shy, or insecure. If you're completely comfortable with yourself, like i am. You would have no problem talking back to haters and telling them what you think. I believe I am demonstrating that right now. If other people don't block my confidence what else could? I'm confident.
Please flame intelligently if you're going to flame.
On May 18 2011 10:49 iTzAnglory wrote: You are getting flamed for posting threads standing out from the majority of the community, welcome to TeamLiquid and I wish you enjoy your stay.
I honestly would just focus to improve next time, we have some terrible posters here going like "Terrible" by itself and "Is this a troll?" Simply ignore these people. Good luck in the new future, the lyrics could be a little for funnier and civilized, but overall you have a good idea of SC rapping. Also spend a few more money or time to increase the video and audio quality.
Ok yeah. I hope in the near future I'll have the means of getting equipment to increase the video and audio quality. I agree it could be better. But right now its still fine. It's still listenable.
And I agree, some people are ridiculous. lol. but they provide good entertainment. xD
Here's my attempt to give you constructive criticism:
1) That slow nursery rhyme style you're currently using sounds bad to me. You need to work on the speed of your flow and give it variety so it isn't the same predictable slow rap. Rappers who use this style sound like they're trying to talk while running up a steep hill.
2) The lyrics are too "gangsta", generic and meaningless. Too many rappers use the same curse words. It's especially not going to appeal to teamliquid. Increase your vocabulary. Read a thesaurus or something.
On May 18 2011 10:10 Bacon-X wrote: ok, so I just took my time and watched all my videos over and over again. I was really good in the freestyle video reply to the haters on this thread.
And I kept it real throughout all the other videos too. I'm honestly convinced that anyone who flames me for making these rap videos is either 1. a troll (Most of them are this, I think) 2. someone who is against rap (for some of those really negative responses) 3. someone who is easily offended by cursing 4. someone stupid
These videos are dope. no doubt about it. if you like rap, and you're a rap listener, you will like my raps. I'm a rapper and a rap listener myself and I just love all rap. If someone is spittin and he got a beat going I'll listen. And I'll actually listen to what he says in the rap too. The raps I wrote have good lines. It's entertaining as fuck.
everyone listen to these raps. you'll know what I mean.
lol this is what im talking about when i was saying thats not confidence... Its just a dumb way 2 think
First of all I like being confident, thats who i am. I don't have no fear from haters. This is the best way to think. Anyone who thinks its a dumb way to think is extremely ignorant, shy, or insecure. If you're completely comfortable with yourself, like i am. You would have no problem talking back to haters and telling them what you think. I believe I am demonstrating that right now. If other people don't block my confidence what else could? I'm confident.
Please flame intelligently if you're going to flame.
Its not confident ur being cocky. If theres more people sayin its not good than it is good than obviously somethings wrong. U cant take criticism or the fact that not everyone likes ur shit. looking into a camera with a quiet beat in the background sayin sum bad raps is not entertaining. Most of the ppl on TL wanna be entertained not listen to a bunch of words. Another mistake is talking back to your "haters." first these ppl arent haters they just dont like ur shit. they have no reason to be a hater with nothing good to hate on. U gotta put more effort into your stuff if you wanna entertain people besides them just laughin at u. And trolling people back is once again... a dumb way to think
On May 18 2011 11:04 Lennon wrote: Here's my attempt to give you constructive criticism:
really? I wouldn't have expected that from you.
1) That slow nursery rhyme style you're currently using sounds bad to me. You need to work on the speed of your flow and give it variety so it isn't the same predictable slow rap. Rappers who use this style sound like they're trying to talk while running up a steep hill.
oh, of course its yet another troll response...
2) The lyrics are too "gangsta", generic and meaningless. Too many rappers use the same curse words. It's especially not going to appeal to teamliquid. Increase your vocabulary. Read a thesaurus or something.
lol i'm so happy that the lyrics are too "gangsta" for you. Don't blame me for that. That's your problem that you can't handle how gangsta i am. fool. I'm tight.
On May 18 2011 11:23 raf3776 wrote: Its not confident ur being cocky.
Thats a lie. I'm confident. Not cocky. Because being cocky is actually a flaw. I'm openly confident and therefore not cocky.
If theres more people sayin its not good than it is good than obviously somethings wrong.
How did you come to that conclusion? nothings obviously wrong to me. Oh yeah, thats because there is nothing wrong. They're all trolls! most of them at least. And the rest, those who actually provide real criticism, i'm completely understanding of what they're saying "increase the video/audio quality" ok, i get that. I'll try doing that. That's the only real criticism i've actually had so far.
If you really think that there's something wrong with the video just because more people hate it then people like it you're ignorant. Completely ignorant of the fact that some people actually liked it. So how about you view it yourself and come to your own conclusion rather than relying on other peoples opinions. There's obviously people who like it, so that says something right there.
U cant take criticism or the fact that not everyone likes ur shit.
I'm well aware that not everyone likes rap. It's fine with me. This is me taking your criticism or oops... i mean trolling and owning it.
looking into a camera with a quiet beat in the background sayin sum bad raps is not entertaining. Most of the ppl on TL wanna be entertained not listen to a bunch of words.
not listen to a bunch of words? so they dont listen to rap. They're the ones missing out in my opinion. I dig that stuff. Rap is the dopest!
Another mistake is talking back to your "haters."
Like i am right now to you? Why can't I respond to people in this thread? I have that right.
first these ppl arent haters they just dont like ur shit. they have no reason to be a hater with nothing good to hate on. U gotta put more effort into your stuff if you wanna entertain people besides them just laughin at u. And trolling people back is once again... a dumb way to think
Never trolled back. Only responded back. Haha. You have a big imagination.
Honestly it could be quite a bit better if you recorded with a mic and added the music or something, ahve some good quality? Video isn't really important.
1) That slow nursery rhyme style you're currently using sounds bad to me. You need to work on the speed of your flow and give it variety so it isn't the same predictable slow rap. Rappers who use this style sound like they're trying to talk while running up a steep hill.
2) The lyrics are too "gangsta", generic and meaningless. Too many rappers use the same curse words. It's especially not going to appeal to teamliquid. Increase your vocabulary. Read a thesaurus or something.
lol i'm so happy that the lyrics are too "gangsta" for you. Don't blame me for that. That's your problem that you can't handle how gangsta i am. fool. I'm tight.
Anyone who gives you legit advice is a "troll". Anyone who suggests anything remotely negative is a "hater". I actually tried but you're too emotionally attached to take any advice from anyone. All you want to read is positivity because, due to your overly protective friends and family, you believe you're already the best around. If you're so confident about your rapping, do a gig at a local venue.
Anyone who gives you legit advice is a "troll". Anyone who suggests anything remotely negative is a "hater". I actually tried but you're too emotionally attached to take any advice from anyone. All you want to read is positivity because, due to your overly protective friends and family, you believe you're already the best around. If you're so confident about your rapping, do a gig at a local venue.
Not even hating.
Stop making up stuff. You're a fail troll. End of story.
I'm not emotionally attached to anything. I'm just happy. so there goes your whole argument.
Anyone who gives you legit advice is a "troll". Anyone who suggests anything remotely negative is a "hater". I actually tried but you're too emotionally attached to take any advice from anyone. All you want to read is positivity because, due to your overly protective friends and family, you believe you're already the best around. If you're so confident about your rapping, do a gig at a local venue.
Not even hating.
Stop making up stuff. You're a fail troll. End of story.
I'm not emotionally attached to anything. I'm just happy. so there goes your whole argument.
You're right. I'll go and rethink my life. I'm out.
Anyone who gives you legit advice is a "troll". Anyone who suggests anything remotely negative is a "hater". I actually tried but you're too emotionally attached to take any advice from anyone. All you want to read is positivity because, due to your overly protective friends and family, you believe you're already the best around. If you're so confident about your rapping, do a gig at a local venue.
Not even hating.
Stop making up stuff. You're a fail troll. End of story.
I'm not emotionally attached to anything. I'm just happy. so there goes your whole argument.
Bacon, honestly you should stop trolling because it's just annoying most of the people here a lot. There isn't much point if you're truly happy.
[edit]Happiness is having the strength to confront one's weakness.
Anyone who gives you legit advice is a "troll". Anyone who suggests anything remotely negative is a "hater". I actually tried but you're too emotionally attached to take any advice from anyone. All you want to read is positivity because, due to your overly protective friends and family, you believe you're already the best around. If you're so confident about your rapping, do a gig at a local venue.
Not even hating.
Stop making up stuff. You're a fail troll. End of story.
I'm not emotionally attached to anything. I'm just happy. so there goes your whole argument.
Bacon, honestly you should stop trolling because it's just annoying most of the people here a lot. There isn't much point if you're truly happy.
[edit]Happiness is having the strength to confront one's weakness.
Not trolling. I posted my starcraft raps. how is that trolling?
Lol your just pretty bad bro. Its pretty obvious that you care about it because your so butt hurt about this so I suggest you step up your metaphors, have better punch lines, and I dunno I really just wasn't feeling it at all
On May 19 2011 03:03 likeaboss wrote: Lol your just pretty bad bro. Its pretty obvious that you care about it because your so butt hurt about this so I suggest you step up your metaphors, have better punch lines, and I dunno I really just wasn't feeling it at all
I'm sorry you feel that way about my rap that its pretty bad. Okay okay... so you want sick metaphors and dope punchlines? I can do that. I'm releasing all the raps I wrote from a while back. But I'll try to write the sickest StarCraft rap I can today and I'll post it. Thanks for this response because you just inspired me.
On May 19 2011 03:44 JediGamer wrote: "Releasing all the raps I wrote from a while back". There was probably a reason you didn't use them. Garbage, like these verses.
Haha. Yeah whatever. I wouldn't post 'em If I didn't like them. I like them. I'll keep posting them.
How can you say a verse is garbage if it makes sense? watch the protoss build order one. Those lines just flow and make a real rap about a build order for protoss. Don't be hating. They are legitimate raps.
I'm not trying to please myself or please anybody. I'm having fun boyy.
See there you go again, do you hear yourself? You're trying so hard to think of something to say back to everyone who criticizes you.
No. I'm not trying to think of something to say back to anyone who criticizes me. Where did you come up with that? I don't care about people who criticize me. I'm chill with it. Haha. Wow. You just made a fool of yourself.
If you think you're good well here's a tip, learn to take criticism. Even if someone's trolling you, you think trolling them back is going to help at all?
No not at all. I don't troll anyone back. I come with an open mind and try to understand. And if its just simply retarded and its a troll I answer it properly and thoroughly (Like this post for example). I'm assuming you're trolling me right now because you're assuming alot of untrue things.
No, it just makes you seem arrogant to people. And really? "I'm not a bad rapper. Don't ignore talent haha." stop being so cocky about your so called talent.
LOL... is it so hard to listen to that rap?
Just calm down buddy. Relax. I'm openly proud of my talent. It's not arrogance because I'm open minded and allow criticism. I definitely don't agree with some of it, like people who think the videos are bad. I think they're DOPE!
Bro, responses like this aren't criticism, they are just extremely narrow minded or just complete trolls. Thanks for your time.
Holy Jesus Christ...really? Then what is a criticism to you, only the comments saying you're good? In my opinion, I think you're "extremely narrow minded" to think that way. You are not going to get any better by responding to EVERY SINGLE POST that criticizes you by saying that their OPINIONS are wrong.
You say you don't care how other people criticize you? Why don't you go back over this post and look at every response you've made here. Looks like more arrogance and ignorance to me, maybe you're too blinded by your false sense of talent that you can't see it. You even say that you went back over all of your videos and said they were still good to you. Well obviously you do! They're your videos, of course you'd think that way. But you've got another thing coming if you think that you going over your OWN videos again justifies you telling people that their opinions are wrong.
Dude I like your videos. I think they show a lot of promise. You asked for advice and if you can take it like you say I'll offer it.
Some of the comments on this thread that you dismiss as trolls are legit even if the peeps who posted it are not great at communicating.
First: Your rhyme structure is pretty basic. I think this is a legitimate complaint, though at time you mix it up and use some more complex structures (e.g. "I'm swearing, I'm cursin' but I really a nice person"). I think that the UVic guy has a great grasp of different rhyme structures. In my personal rap preference I think Eminem is a great example of this. Try fooling around with different types of rhyme and fall back on basic rhyme schemes less often. I think this will make your raps more dope.
Second: Some of your vocabulary is also pretty simple. I mean this in two ways. The use of nigger/bitch/shit/fuck/etc as parts of rhymes just as filler makes the rhymes seem simple and not well thought out. I'm not complaining about the swears... I like them actually... but they have to be there for a reasons... not just to fill a line or rhyme with something earlier. Also try to drop in crazier words into your raps... More complicated vocabulary makes the rap seem more sophisticated.
Third: Just keep producing and trying to improve. I can tell from your freestyle that you have the skillz to pull off some dope shit and I'd like to see more and watch you improve.
I'll be coming back to this thread to see your new raps. Keep it up dude!
On May 17 2011 08:57 KristiS wrote: Way too much niggas 'n shit for StarCraft man.. It's a pretty civilized and quite highclass game, not a subject for gangsta-rap. NerdAlert and Husky are doing it the way it's supposed to be done, so that it's funny, not a hardcore nigga killing gangstarap yo!
I just wanted to say that some the lyrics included in your "response to the haters on this thread" were immature, awful, and hateful.
Don't think i'm really bad, if you think i'm bad, you're a fag
You better get down cause all u haters is gay yea you take it up the butt and then squirt in ur ass then i put you in the highest of the mother fucking gay class
We don't carry guns, we just shoot nuns up their ass cause they're bitches and they Catholic
If you think that crap is fine, I don't want you in my community. Shit like that actually isn't funny or okay.
And while I'm on it, you're rapping isn't *terrible* - but it's definitely not as good as you're making it out to be. This I feel is the heart of most of our criticisms of your music.
That you brush aside people who don't enjoy your own music as much as you do as "trolls" rather than people with different musical tastes adds to this fire. You insist that you're music is "dope", and that anyone who thinks otherwise is flat out "wrong" and must be "trolling".
That, my friend, is the definition of arrogance.
If you were more well-mannered, maybe you wouldn't be catching so much flak.
On May 19 2011 09:16 hYdrA-MeNo wrote: You need to stop with the nigga this and fuck that and hater this lol sounds like a middle school black rapper.....
That's one video. Watch the protoss one. No cursing.
No not at all. I don't troll anyone back. I come with an open mind and try to understand. And if its just simply retarded and its a troll I answer it properly and thoroughly (Like this post for example). I'm assuming you're trolling me right now because you're assuming alot of untrue things.
No, it just makes you seem arrogant to people. And really? "I'm not a bad rapper. Don't ignore talent haha." stop being so cocky about your so called talent.
LOL... is it so hard to listen to that rap?
Just calm down buddy. Relax. I'm openly proud of my talent. It's not arrogance because I'm open minded and allow criticism. I definitely don't agree with some of it, like people who think the videos are bad. I think they're DOPE!
Bro, responses like this aren't criticism, they are just extremely narrow minded or just complete trolls. Thanks for your time.
Holy Jesus Christ...really? Then what is a criticism to you, only the comments saying you're good? In my opinion, I think you're "extremely narrow minded" to think that way. You are not going to get any better by responding to EVERY SINGLE POST that criticizes you by saying that their OPINIONS are wrong.
Why do people keep making up stuff? I never said anyones opinion is wrong.
You say you don't care how other people criticize you? Why don't you go back over this post and look at every response you've made here. Looks like more arrogance and ignorance to me, maybe you're too blinded by your false sense of talent that you can't see it. You even say that you went back over all of your videos and said they were still good to you. Well obviously you do! They're your videos, of course you'd think that way. But you've got another thing coming if you think that you going over your OWN videos again justifies you telling people that their opinions are wrong.
Ehh... I have plenty of people in real life who watched them and said they liked it. You're another troll I'm assuming. Either that or just another kid who doesn't listen to rap. And if its neither then you just like hating. Simple as that.
On May 19 2011 08:59 Thetan wrote: I just wanted to say that some the lyrics included in your "response to the haters on this thread" were immature, awful, and hateful.
Don't think i'm really bad, if you think i'm bad, you're a fag
You better get down cause all u haters is gay yea you take it up the butt and then squirt in ur ass then i put you in the highest of the mother fucking gay class
We don't carry guns, we just shoot nuns up their ass cause they're bitches and they Catholic
If you think that crap is fine, I don't want you in my community. Shit like that actually isn't funny or okay.
And while I'm on it, you're rapping isn't *terrible* - but it's definitely not as good as you're making it out to be. This I feel is the heart of most of our criticisms of your music.
That you brush aside people who don't enjoy your own music as much as you do as "trolls" rather than people with different musical tastes adds to this fire. You insist that you're music is "dope", and that anyone who thinks otherwise is flat out "wrong" and must be "trolling".
That, my friend, is the definition of arrogance.
If you were more well-mannered, maybe you wouldn't be catching so much flak.
Someone needs to relax. Those are raps. Not our opinions. It's a rap, why so serious?
Your opinion on my rapping saying its not good is invalid until you show me you can rap better. Then, after you prove to me you can rap better I'll listen to your advice. Because seriously, If you don't rap, you don't know therefore your opinion is meaningless.
On May 19 2011 08:59 Thetan wrote: I just wanted to say that some the lyrics included in your "response to the haters on this thread" were immature, awful, and hateful.
Don't think i'm really bad, if you think i'm bad, you're a fag
You better get down cause all u haters is gay yea you take it up the butt and then squirt in ur ass then i put you in the highest of the mother fucking gay class
We don't carry guns, we just shoot nuns up their ass cause they're bitches and they Catholic
If you think that crap is fine, I don't want you in my community. Shit like that actually isn't funny or okay.
And while I'm on it, you're rapping isn't *terrible* - but it's definitely not as good as you're making it out to be. This I feel is the heart of most of our criticisms of your music.
That you brush aside people who don't enjoy your own music as much as you do as "trolls" rather than people with different musical tastes adds to this fire. You insist that you're music is "dope", and that anyone who thinks otherwise is flat out "wrong" and must be "trolling".
That, my friend, is the definition of arrogance.
If you were more well-mannered, maybe you wouldn't be catching so much flak.
Someone needs to relax. Those are raps. Not our opinions. It's a rap, why so serious?
Your opinion on my rapping saying its not good is invalid until you show me you can rap better. Then, after you prove to me you can rap better I'll listen to your advice. Because seriously, If you don't rap, you don't know therefore your opinion is meaningless.
"Someone needs to relax...It's a rap, why so serious?"
Just because it's a rap doesn't excuse it for being incendiary and hate-filled. Such speech should not be said lightly -- and *is not* within a respectable community. There is absolutely no need for that crap -- and that you think it's fine to proudly associate yourself with such bullshit makes me think less of you as a man and a person.
It doesn't matter whether you really believe what you say or not. The fact that you're even willing to *say* it is something that should be admonished -- not celebrated. ---------------------- "Your opinion on my rapping saying its not good is invalid until you show me you can rap better"
I can say BitByBit is a terrible excuse for a Starcraft player, but he's still prob. better than me at Starcraft. I'm not comparing you to me, I'm comparing you, your music, and your claims that your rapping is "good" not to myself but to rap music that *I* think is "good".
I don't need to rap to enjoy rap. And I did not enjoy your rapping. And for you to brush my judgment (as well as those of others) aside merely because I did not agree that your rap fell within the standards I have for "good" rap as "meaningless" and "trolling" -- using only your claim that you're a better rapper than I as grounds for your judgment -- is both insulting and is the very *definition* of "arrogance".
Do you honestly believe that every rapper better than you would look at what you put out and call it "dope"? Because that is what you've been implying...
On May 19 2011 08:59 Thetan wrote: I just wanted to say that some the lyrics included in your "response to the haters on this thread" were immature, awful, and hateful.
Don't think i'm really bad, if you think i'm bad, you're a fag
You better get down cause all u haters is gay yea you take it up the butt and then squirt in ur ass then i put you in the highest of the mother fucking gay class
We don't carry guns, we just shoot nuns up their ass cause they're bitches and they Catholic
If you think that crap is fine, I don't want you in my community. Shit like that actually isn't funny or okay.
And while I'm on it, you're rapping isn't *terrible* - but it's definitely not as good as you're making it out to be. This I feel is the heart of most of our criticisms of your music.
That you brush aside people who don't enjoy your own music as much as you do as "trolls" rather than people with different musical tastes adds to this fire. You insist that you're music is "dope", and that anyone who thinks otherwise is flat out "wrong" and must be "trolling".
That, my friend, is the definition of arrogance.
If you were more well-mannered, maybe you wouldn't be catching so much flak.
Someone needs to relax. Those are raps. Not our opinions. It's a rap, why so serious?
Your opinion on my rapping saying its not good is invalid until you show me you can rap better. Then, after you prove to me you can rap better I'll listen to your advice. Because seriously, If you don't rap, you don't know therefore your opinion is meaningless.
"Someone needs to relax...It's a rap, why so serious?"
Just because it's a rap doesn't excuse it for being incendiary and hate-filled. Such speech should not be said lightly -- and *is not* within a respectable community. There is absolutely no need for that crap -- and that you think it's fine to proudly associate yourself with such bullshit makes me think less of you as a man and a person.
It doesn't matter whether you really believe what you say or not. The fact that you're even willing to *say* it is something that should be admonished -- not celebrated. ---------------------- "Your opinion on my rapping saying its not good is invalid until you show me you can rap better"
I can say BitByBit is a terrible excuse for a Starcraft player, but he's still prob. better than me at Starcraft. I'm not comparing you to me, I'm comparing you, your music, and your claims that your rapping is "good" not to myself but to rap music that *I* think is "good".
I don't need to rap to enjoy rap. And I did not enjoy your rapping. And for you to brush my judgment (as well as those of others) aside merely because I did not agree that your rap fell within the standards I have for "good" rap as "meaningless" and "trolling" -- using only your claim that you're a better rapper than I as grounds for your judgment -- is both insulting and is the very *definition* of "arrogance".
Do you honestly believe that every rapper better than you would look at what you put out and call it "dope"? Because that is what you've been implying...
I agree with this post, you say you take criticism, but when infact, when most of us tell you somethign that has problems you go to the "if you can do it better" or you dont know this cuz you dont like rap. Honestly, i find your "raps" really offensive, and yeah a lot of people say things they dont think, but when you post it onto TL, and on youtube, people done know who you are, and all we know is what you put up.
The video about responding to haters/trollers, did you seriously need to get someone to say "yeah hes a good rapper" because that just seems sad to need to get someone to say you're good. The people who determine an artist is good isn't the artists themselves, but their audience, the people who listen to it. If you check your videos, you can see the ratio of likes to dislikes, i can sit here all day and argue im the best sc player in the world, when im not, and even if i think that, am i really the best? no. You can think you're the best, and be defensive all you want, but in the end, its not for you to judge how good your rapping is, its the rest of the community, because you decided to share your raps with everyone else.
"Because seriously, If you don't rap, you don't know therefore your opinion is meaningless." This line is the most idiotic response, basically you only care about the people that like it, and disregard the people who don't because "they don't know rap".
P.S. If you really think your music is good, add a poll to your OP, and see how many people actually like it
Because you don't take well to constructive criticism (see lennon) I will ask you questions.
1. What lines in your raps do you see as complex rhyme schemes (aka not nursery rhyme format)? To illustrate my point,
I kill your units so quick i leave your vision blurred, cause i'm starcraft elite status, ain't a nerd, Quickly kill your expansion then off to your main, Wreck it up easily I bring you the pain, Killed all your workers, erased your economy, When I be playing starcraft II there ain't no stoppin' me, of course you lost haha.. I'm #1, GG well played that was alot of fun
is the most simple rhyme scheme of just rhyming the last word every 2 lines... Even Drake knows you have to go at least 4 lines of rhyming
2. Please point out any word play or clever lines that you used.
tanks sieged up yeah nigga now what gonna push these tanks and ram you in the butt
This is an awful lyrically... "ram you in the butt" makes you sound like a 5th grader and you went immediately from the tanks being sieged up to moving which creates a disconnect in your lyrics
3. (This isn't a question just criticism) It is hard to express in words a criticism of flow. My attempt would be that good flow makes lines that are too long or too short for the beat of the song sound right effortlessly. When you have a line thats too long or too short you can immediately tell because when you are too short you either add filler words that are completely unnecessary in the nuke you (i.e. all the niggas and cursing) or you elongate words and pauses in protoss rap (like you betttttttter believe). This all causes me to notice your poor lyrical structure which shouldn't happen if you had good flow.
*edit: It looks like the only valid types of criticism you want to hear sound something like "yo man this is dope but i couldn't hear you well enough" or "man that rap was tight but your quality of sound is all messed up" or "you got potential but you need to put more production into your raps"
btw rapping while getting a haircut and walking around and in a cypher doesnt make you a rapper nor does it make you good... I think you need to let the people you claim love your rapping do the talking for you... you think real rappers get deals and fans by telling everyone how great they are. No they drop mixtapes and create a following so that someone big will hear them and bring them into the limelight... they may rap about how amazing they are but if they dont live up to that standard they will be disregarded
I kill your units so quick i leave your vision blurred, cause i'm starcraft elite status, ain't a nerd, Quickly kill your expansion then off to your main, Wreck it up easily I bring you the pain, Killed all your workers, erased your economy, When I be playing starcraft II there ain't no stoppin' me, of course you lost haha.. I'm #1, GG well played that was alot of fun
is the most simple rhyme scheme of just rhyming the last word every 2 lines... Even Drake knows you have to go at least 4 lines of rhyming
2. Please point out any word play or clever lines that you used.
tanks sieged up yeah nigga now what gonna push these tanks and ram you in the butt
This is an awful lyrically... "ram you in the butt" makes you sound like a 5th grader and you went immediately from the tanks being sieged up to moving which creates a disconnect in your lyrics
3. (This isn't a question just criticism) It is hard to express in words a criticism of flow. My attempt would be that good flow makes lines that are too long or too short for the beat of the song sound right effortlessly. When you have a line thats too long or too short you can immediately tell because when you are too short you either add filler words that are completely unnecessary in the nuke you (i.e. all the niggas and cursing) or you elongate words and pauses in protoss rap (like you betttttttter believe). This all causes me to notice your poor lyrical structure which shouldn't happen if you had good flow.
*edit: It looks like the only valid types of criticism you want to hear sound something like "yo man this is dope but i couldn't hear you well enough" or "man that rap was tight but your quality of sound is all messed up" or "you got potential but you need to put more production into your raps"
btw rapping while getting a haircut and walking around and in a cypher doesnt make you a rapper nor does it make you good... I think you need to let the people you claim love your rapping do the talking for you... you think real rappers get deals and fans by telling everyone how great they are. No they drop mixtapes and create a following so that someone big will hear them and bring them into the limelight... they may rap about how amazing they are but if they dont live up to that standard they will be disregarded
Anyone who doesn't like it simply doesn't appreciate and try to feel the fun of it. This is just for enjoyment. It's all for fun. Anyone feeling hate, I must tell you, It's coming from yourself.
Not from these raps.
Just watch em for enjoyment.
Go find something better to do then flame this. End of discussion really. Thanks for your time anyways though.
On May 19 2011 17:01 Bacon-X wrote: Anyone who doesn't like it simply doesn't appreciate and try to feel the fun of it. This is just for enjoyment. It's all for fun. Anyone feeling hate, I must tell you, It's coming from yourself.
Not from these raps.
Just watch em for enjoyment.
Go find something better to do then flame this. End of discussion really. Thanks for your time anyways though.
I don't think all the "hate" is directed at your music per se, but rather the way you've been conducting yourself throughout this thread - especially how you've treated the other posters in the thread.
You obviously enjoy what you're doing. There's nothing wrong with that. If you're proud of what you do you shouldn't care what other people doing.
Most of the real flak that you've been getting are from responses in the thread like: + Show Spoiler +
"anyone who says its terrible obviously doesn't listen to rap music."
"All you haters who say it's bad don't even appreciate all the awesome lines i threw in there."
"I'm honestly convinced that anyone who flames me for making these rap videos is either 1. a troll (Most of them are this, I think) 2. someone who is against rap (for some of those really negative responses) 3. someone who is easily offended by cursing 4. someone stupid
These videos are dope. no doubt about it. if you like rap, and you're a rap listener, you will like my raps. "
"Your opinion on my rapping saying its not good is invalid until you show me you can rap better. Then, after you prove to me you can rap better I'll listen to your advice. Because seriously, If you don't rap, you don't know therefore your opinion is meaningless. "
Nobody is "flaming you for making these rap videos". Nobody, as far as I can tell, has told you that you shouldn't be. They're just commenting that they don't enjoy what you do.
They are not trolls, against rap, easily offended by cursing, or stupid. They are people giving their actual judgments about what you presented to them.
To us, you seem like someone who's committed on the notion that what he has produced is "good", and has thrown away others opinions - calling them "trolls". Instead of brushing them off as people with "different musical tastes", or a simple "I can see where you're coming from, but I respectfully disagree", you indirectly insult everyone by assuming they're just a "troll", don't like rap, or are "stupid".
It seems that you think that no, educated person in their right mind (who isn't trolling, against rap, easily offended, or stupid) would not find your raps enjoyable. That, as you should be able to see, is plainly false. That, despite overwhelming evidence that at least some people do not enjoy your music, you continue to pretend that what you've done is the best thing ever.
This is not confidence. This is arrogance. And arrogance pisses people off.
I just want you to know that people are, at this point, less "flaming" your music as they are of your attitude and mindset that you've shown throughout this thread. Since about page 3, most of the "troll" posts have been people trying to break this arrogance that you've been showing.
I also notice you did not (at least yet) respond to the points I made in my last post. I'd be thankful if you could touch on those points, if you have the time
Nobody is "flaming you for making these rap videos". Nobody, as far as I can tell, has told you that you shouldn't be. They're just commenting that they don't enjoy what you do.
They are not trolls, against rap, easily offended by cursing, or stupid. They are people giving their actual judgments about what you presented to them.
To us, you seem like someone who's committed on the notion that what he has produced is "good", and has thrown away others opinions - calling them "trolls".
Dude, It's very simple. I think its good. If you don't like it thats fine with me, doesn't bother me. I don't throw away their opinions... I just completely disagree. There are obviously trolls on this thread if you read some of the posts.
Instead of brushing them off as people with "different musical tastes", or a simple "I can see where you're coming from, but I respectfully disagree", you indirectly insult everyone by assuming they're just a "troll", don't like rap, or are "stupid".
Naaah. If they have different musical taste I respect that. In all honesty I do, everyone is different I understand that. And yeah I have knowledge of rap and I believe anyone who says its "terrible" probably doesn't even like rap at all. I think all rap is good. I enjoy it. I already said that twice in this thread.
It seems that you think that no, educated person in their right mind (who isn't trolling, against rap, easily offended, or stupid) would not find your raps enjoyable.
No thats not true. You guys making up some really retarded crap about me. This is just not true.
That, as you should be able to see, is plainly false. That, despite overwhelming evidence that at least some people do not enjoy your music, you continue to pretend that what you've done is the best thing ever.
Yes!!! I combined StarCraft with Rapping. Of course I think its the best thing ever!!! Those are my 2 passions in life.
This is not confidence. This is arrogance. And arrogance pisses people off.
If it pisses you off that I like rap music and starcraft thats your problem. Keep that problem to yourself please.
I'm not arrogant. You don't know me bro. I'm open minded and a nice person overall. I already said that in this thread before. People are just too quick to flame me...
I just want you to know that people are, at this point, less "flaming" your music as they are of your attitude and mindset that you've shown throughout this thread. Since about page 3, most of the "troll" posts have been people trying to break this arrogance that you've been showing.
break the arrogance I'm showing? What are you crazy? First of all, you're crazy if you think I'm gonna let anyone from the internet (who I don't know in real life) change me. That's so retarded.
So I hope you're not actually crazy and think that would really happen.
Again, I'm not arrogant. I'm doing this for fun, just dont hate it. And if you do go find something else to do other then flame me.
I also notice you did not (at least yet) respond to the points I made in my last post. I'd be thankful if you could touch on those points, if you have the time
I just read your post. It was really dumb. I don't even know whats the point of you trying to communicate to me. These are just flame posts. Find something better to do other then flame someone's music.
My raps are tight. Haters are haters.
Just watch my response video over and over again until you get the point I was giving to all the haters in the video. I just don't care haha. Say what you like. I'm still gonna be myself and kick it and flow and have fun.
Again, if I'm "flaming" anything, it isn't your music but rather your attitude. Many of the posts you consider "trolls" in the thread I think are clearly giving their actual, honest, sometimes constructive opinion - and that's not a good attitude.
"And yeah I have knowledge of rap and I believe anyone who says its "terrible" probably doesn't even like rap at all."
Again, you're implying that anyone that *doesn't* like your music doesn't actually enjoy rap, and that's insulting to the people that *do* like rap but *don't* like your music. Music is a personal thing - tastes differ widely from person to person, even within genres. If you seriously believe that *every* rap fan out that WILL enjoy your rap, that not *one* serious rap fan will think your work is "terrible"...that's not confidence dude. That's straight up arrogance.
And trust me. The quality of your work is not good enough to live up to such arrogance. I wouldn't call it bad - I would say what you've done is good for an amateur who does this as a hobby. But it's "terrible" compared to the works of artists like Tupac - and I (as well as most other rap fans) would be appalled if you disagreed with this.
My entire point has to been trying to show you that, up to this point, you've been an arrogant dick on the forums.
Arrogance: overbearing pride evidenced by a superior manner toward inferiors.
You have pride in what you've done - but such pride has made you think that any "inferiors" that call your work "terrible" are below you, and should not be taken seriously. You call legitimate posts expressing their opinions "trolls" - indicating how you don't think their "inferior" claims are valid.
Again. Your actions in this thread are the *definition* of arrogance.
You're proud of what you've done - and that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that. There *is* something unsettling about how you've treated the other people in this thread. This isn't about your music - this is about how you treat community members that have responded to you.
I'm not trying to bring you down, I'm not trying to change who you are. I encourage you to continue what you're doing, continue doing what you enjoy. I'm just trying to tell you why you've pissed me (and others) off with how you've acted in this thread - and hope that you'll stop being such an ass on the forums.
And no, I am most definitely not gonna watch that disgustingly, meaninglessly hate-filled, misogynistic, homophobic "response video" again.
On May 20 2011 06:14 BushidoSnipr wrote: OP. The trolls. Feed them moar.
Yeah I want to stop.
The problem is that they insist they aren't really trolls so I try to give my serious response back to them.
I find some of these posts so retarded. They have no point or goal, they are just aimed at flaming me. These haters got nothing better to do or something.
Again, if I'm "flaming" anything, it isn't your music but rather your attitude.
Then why waste your time trying to flame my attitude knowing you can't hurt me. Lol. Hahaha. I just realized, dude, you're actually trying to put me down. Well I'll let you know something. All you trolls who feed off of making other people sad have insecurities and problems. A person who is confident and happy with himself does not seek harm to others to make himself feel better. Why not? Because that person is already happy and confident with himself.
Knowing this, How could I let anyone put me down? I don't. I'm strong. All the trolls on this thread have failed to even phase me. What u think I'm actually going to care and feel bad about myself because of your retarded posts. They are meaningless, no purpose behind them either? What are you trying to accomplish?
And thats what led to my realization that all you're trying to accomplish is trying to put me down.
Well this post sums it up. Learn from someone who is confident instead of hating on someone who is confident. Because that just shows how much of a pussy you are, scared to be confident???
I'm confident because thats the only way to live bro. You're alive, Might as well live to the fullest and enjoy life.
You can't say nothing back to this. I'm sure. You can try but.... You can just come back to this post and read this again a second time. Maybe then you'll realize it.
Again, you're implying that anyone that *doesn't* like your music doesn't actually enjoy rap, and that's insulting to the people that *do* like rap but *don't* like your music. Music is a personal thing - tastes differ widely from person to person, even within genres. If you seriously believe that *every* rap fan out that WILL enjoy your rap, that not *one* serious rap fan will think your work is "terrible"...that's not confidence dude. That's straight up arrogance.
Oh stop your whining and grow some balls. Worry about yourself instead then hating on others.
And trust me. The quality of your work is not good enough to live up to such arrogance. I wouldn't call it bad - I would say what you've done is good for an amateur who does this as a hobby. But it's "terrible" compared to the works of artists like Tupac - and I (as well as most other rap fans) would be appalled if you disagreed with this.
2pac is tight yo. All rap is tight. I think its hilarious how you're trying to compare a starcraft rap to 2pac.
My entire point has to been trying to show you that, up to this point, you've been an arrogant dick on the forums.
You realize. I could throw this right back at you. Just look at your attitude. Haha. Just get over it already. Find something better to do. Go play some StarCraft.
Arrogance: overbearing pride evidenced by a superior manner toward inferiors.
Yup, thats not me. The reason I'm such a cool person is that I believe we are all on the same level. All humans. This proves that you just don't know me and therefore can't say I'm something when I'm actually not lol. Noone is inferior to me, I'm just cool. I love everyone.
Those who hate me can go watch the response video. It's for them.
You have pride in what you've done - but such pride has made you think that any "inferiors" that call your work "terrible" are below you, and should not be taken seriously. You call legitimate posts expressing their opinions "trolls" - indicating how you don't think their "inferior" claims are valid.
Okay you're officially retarded.
Again. Your actions in this thread are the *definition* of arrogance.
What about your actions in this thread? They're retarded.
You're proud of what you've done - and that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that. There *is* something unsettling about how you've treated the other people in this thread. This isn't about your music - this is about how you treat community members that have responded to you.
Dude I love StarCraft, I love my music. I love this site. I love watching streams. I occasionally post on the forums. I don't hate anyone on here. Just go bother someone else man.
I'm not trying to bring you down, I'm not trying to change who you are. I encourage you to continue what you're doing, continue doing what you enjoy. I'm just trying to tell you why you've pissed me (and others) off with how you've acted in this thread - and hope that you'll stop being such an ass on the forums.
You obviously are a troll. You come up with stupid shit and claim it to be true. I was never mean to anyone on this thread. Read the posts over.
And no, I am most definitely not gonna watch that disgustingly, meaninglessly hate-filled, misogynistic, homophobic "response video" again.
At least you watched it once haha. That should be good enough to deliver the message. It's funny how you said Hate-filled, It's not. LOL. You perceive things that aren't real buddy. How is it hate filled? It was all for humor.
On May 20 2011 05:59 Thetan wrote: Last response I'm gonna give.
Again, if I'm "flaming" anything, it isn't your music but rather your attitude. Many of the posts you consider "trolls" in the thread I think are clearly giving their actual, honest, sometimes constructive opinion - and that's not a good attitude.
"And yeah I have knowledge of rap and I believe anyone who says its "terrible" probably doesn't even like rap at all."
Again, you're implying that anyone that *doesn't* like your music doesn't actually enjoy rap, and that's insulting to the people that *do* like rap but *don't* like your music. Music is a personal thing - tastes differ widely from person to person, even within genres. If you seriously believe that *every* rap fan out that WILL enjoy your rap, that not *one* serious rap fan will think your work is "terrible"...that's not confidence dude. That's straight up arrogance.
And trust me. The quality of your work is not good enough to live up to such arrogance. I wouldn't call it bad - I would say what you've done is good for an amateur who does this as a hobby. But it's "terrible" compared to the works of artists like Tupac - and I (as well as most other rap fans) would be appalled if you disagreed with this.
My entire point has to been trying to show you that, up to this point, you've been an arrogant dick on the forums.
Arrogance: overbearing pride evidenced by a superior manner toward inferiors.
You have pride in what you've done - but such pride has made you think that any "inferiors" that call your work "terrible" are below you, and should not be taken seriously. You call legitimate posts expressing their opinions "trolls" - indicating how you don't think their "inferior" claims are valid.
Again. Your actions in this thread are the *definition* of arrogance.
You're proud of what you've done - and that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that. There *is* something unsettling about how you've treated the other people in this thread. This isn't about your music - this is about how you treat community members that have responded to you.
I'm not trying to bring you down, I'm not trying to change who you are. I encourage you to continue what you're doing, continue doing what you enjoy. I'm just trying to tell you why you've pissed me (and others) off with how you've acted in this thread - and hope that you'll stop being such an ass on the forums.
And no, I am most definitely not gonna watch that disgustingly, meaninglessly hate-filled, misogynistic, homophobic "response video" again.
i had no intention of posting -again- but this sums up a lot of views of people that left this thread without a comment. to ignore what this guy said is just to live in your little bubble.
take his word of advice, not as a rapper, but as a decent human being. its like someone streaming their sc2, someone comes up and says you have potential but you're not their yet and at the same time giving you advices you may or may not like...then you replying, "i know i'm good, gtfo troll/hater".
what this thread really reminded me of is when a contestant enters american idol and he/she gets shut down with a heavy criticism from simon cowell. he/she then gets mad because he/she KNOWS he/she is good at singing and can't understand why simon would talk so much shit. then there are those who'd claim "hey, he/she wasnt so bad!"
i feel unfortunately for modern hiphop industry but at the same time, i understand this is a different time and the newer generation's taste in hiphop is changing. to that end, i have no complaints of your style however, as Thetan pointed out, dont be arrogant, instead try to be humble though it may not fit your gangster image.
edit: waht does he and i mean by arrogance? the fact that you're dissing thetan as a troll/hater while he had no intention of doing so. he was just speaking his opinion in a way to widen your perspective. from what i've read from your replies to thetan, you totally missed most of his points.
realizing that doesn't make you a better rapper but it'll make you a better person, someone who can see and understand from different perspectives. this will make you into a better writer.
On May 20 2011 05:59 Thetan wrote: Last response I'm gonna give.
Again, if I'm "flaming" anything, it isn't your music but rather your attitude. Many of the posts you consider "trolls" in the thread I think are clearly giving their actual, honest, sometimes constructive opinion - and that's not a good attitude.
"And yeah I have knowledge of rap and I believe anyone who says its "terrible" probably doesn't even like rap at all."
Again, you're implying that anyone that *doesn't* like your music doesn't actually enjoy rap, and that's insulting to the people that *do* like rap but *don't* like your music. Music is a personal thing - tastes differ widely from person to person, even within genres. If you seriously believe that *every* rap fan out that WILL enjoy your rap, that not *one* serious rap fan will think your work is "terrible"...that's not confidence dude. That's straight up arrogance.
And trust me. The quality of your work is not good enough to live up to such arrogance. I wouldn't call it bad - I would say what you've done is good for an amateur who does this as a hobby. But it's "terrible" compared to the works of artists like Tupac - and I (as well as most other rap fans) would be appalled if you disagreed with this.
My entire point has to been trying to show you that, up to this point, you've been an arrogant dick on the forums.
Arrogance: overbearing pride evidenced by a superior manner toward inferiors.
You have pride in what you've done - but such pride has made you think that any "inferiors" that call your work "terrible" are below you, and should not be taken seriously. You call legitimate posts expressing their opinions "trolls" - indicating how you don't think their "inferior" claims are valid.
Again. Your actions in this thread are the *definition* of arrogance.
You're proud of what you've done - and that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that. There *is* something unsettling about how you've treated the other people in this thread. This isn't about your music - this is about how you treat community members that have responded to you.
I'm not trying to bring you down, I'm not trying to change who you are. I encourage you to continue what you're doing, continue doing what you enjoy. I'm just trying to tell you why you've pissed me (and others) off with how you've acted in this thread - and hope that you'll stop being such an ass on the forums.
And no, I am most definitely not gonna watch that disgustingly, meaninglessly hate-filled, misogynistic, homophobic "response video" again.
i had no intention of posting -again- but this sums up a lot of views of people that left this thread without a comment. to ignore what this guy said is just to live in your little bubble.
take his word of advice, not as a rapper, but as a decent human being. its like someone streaming their sc2, someone comes up and says you have potential but you're not their yet and at the same time giving you advices you may or may not like...then you replying, "i know i'm good, gtfo troll/hater".
what this thread really reminded me of is when a contestant enters american idol and he/she gets shut down with a heavy criticism from simon cowell. he/she then gets mad because he/she KNOWS he/she is good at singing and can't understand why simon would talk so much shit. then there are those who'd claim "hey, he/she wasnt so bad!"
i feel unfortunately for modern hiphop industry but at the same time, i understand this is a different time and the newer generation's taste in hiphop is changing. to that end, i have no complaints of your style however, as Thetan pointed out, dont be arrogant, instead try to be humble though it may not fit your gangster image.
edit: waht does he and i mean by arrogance? the fact that you're dissing thetan as a troll/hater while he had no intention of doing so. he was just speaking his opinion in a way to widen your perspective.
He obviously has the intention to do so. He's making stuff up. Go read my response to it again. I'm doing fine thankyou. I don't need any of your advice or nothing. I already know what I'm doing. I got it down.
On May 20 2011 05:59 Thetan wrote: Last response I'm gonna give.
Again, if I'm "flaming" anything, it isn't your music but rather your attitude. Many of the posts you consider "trolls" in the thread I think are clearly giving their actual, honest, sometimes constructive opinion - and that's not a good attitude.
"And yeah I have knowledge of rap and I believe anyone who says its "terrible" probably doesn't even like rap at all."
Again, you're implying that anyone that *doesn't* like your music doesn't actually enjoy rap, and that's insulting to the people that *do* like rap but *don't* like your music. Music is a personal thing - tastes differ widely from person to person, even within genres. If you seriously believe that *every* rap fan out that WILL enjoy your rap, that not *one* serious rap fan will think your work is "terrible"...that's not confidence dude. That's straight up arrogance.
And trust me. The quality of your work is not good enough to live up to such arrogance. I wouldn't call it bad - I would say what you've done is good for an amateur who does this as a hobby. But it's "terrible" compared to the works of artists like Tupac - and I (as well as most other rap fans) would be appalled if you disagreed with this.
My entire point has to been trying to show you that, up to this point, you've been an arrogant dick on the forums.
Arrogance: overbearing pride evidenced by a superior manner toward inferiors.
You have pride in what you've done - but such pride has made you think that any "inferiors" that call your work "terrible" are below you, and should not be taken seriously. You call legitimate posts expressing their opinions "trolls" - indicating how you don't think their "inferior" claims are valid.
Again. Your actions in this thread are the *definition* of arrogance.
You're proud of what you've done - and that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that. There *is* something unsettling about how you've treated the other people in this thread. This isn't about your music - this is about how you treat community members that have responded to you.
I'm not trying to bring you down, I'm not trying to change who you are. I encourage you to continue what you're doing, continue doing what you enjoy. I'm just trying to tell you why you've pissed me (and others) off with how you've acted in this thread - and hope that you'll stop being such an ass on the forums.
And no, I am most definitely not gonna watch that disgustingly, meaninglessly hate-filled, misogynistic, homophobic "response video" again.
i had no intention of posting -again- but this sums up a lot of views of people that left this thread without a comment. to ignore what this guy said is just to live in your little bubble.
take his word of advice, not as a rapper, but as a decent human being. its like someone streaming their sc2, someone comes up and says you have potential but you're not their yet and at the same time giving you advices you may or may not like...then you replying, "i know i'm good, gtfo troll/hater".
what this thread really reminded me of is when a contestant enters american idol and he/she gets shut down with a heavy criticism from simon cowell. he/she then gets mad because he/she KNOWS he/she is good at singing and can't understand why simon would talk so much shit. then there are those who'd claim "hey, he/she wasnt so bad!"
i feel unfortunately for modern hiphop industry but at the same time, i understand this is a different time and the newer generation's taste in hiphop is changing. to that end, i have no complaints of your style however, as Thetan pointed out, dont be arrogant, instead try to be humble though it may not fit your gangster image.
edit: waht does he and i mean by arrogance? the fact that you're dissing thetan as a troll/hater while he had no intention of doing so. he was just speaking his opinion in a way to widen your perspective.
He obviously has the intention to do so. He's making stuff up. Go read my response to it again. I'm doing fine thankyou. I don't need any of your advice or nothing. I already know what I'm doing. I got it down.
"i know i'm intelligent because i know that i know nothing"
edit: you're free to do what you want, however you gain the strength to do the things you want is totally up to you. all i'm saying is, dont let your pride blind you.
"i know i'm intelligent because i know that i know nothing"
i hope you can understand this quote one day.
Wow, I'm so sorry you guys are offended by my personality. Hahahahaha. xD
Stop taking things so personal. And your quote is retarded. Go show that to someone else.
its a paraphrase of a popular quote by socrates, you probably dont know him from the reply you gave. and i'm not offended by your personality, lol. i have a very wide perspective on how people can behave
by the way, there's a similarity that i've noticed from some of my favorite rappers. they've studied english at university level or studied english on their own (ie. eminem, tiger jk, tablo, etc.). this is not shit talk lol, i just wanted to point it out if you havnt taken serious approach in english literature.
On May 17 2011 10:50 JediGamer wrote: The rap in the OP is freaking horrible.
On May 18 2011 10:31 JediGamer wrote: hes reading off a piece of paper in some of these.... LOL. We all got trolled.
On May 19 2011 03:44 JediGamer wrote: "Releasing all the raps I wrote from a while back". There was probably a reason you didn't use them. Garbage, like these verses.
On May 20 2011 10:08 JediGamer wrote: Powl status
You and Bacon-X should totally engage in a rap battle. I'm sure your freestyle skills have only improved since the Destiny incident.
On May 19 2011 03:44 JediGamer wrote: "Releasing all the raps I wrote from a while back". There was probably a reason you didn't use them. Garbage, like these verses.
LoL! That "freestyle" against destiny was designated to be bad. It was a troll freestyle purposely to annoy Destiny's stream. Misconception that came up when I was beating bonnell ;p. If he can record something halfdecent I'll respond ;p.