• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:18
CEST 17:18
KST 00:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage3Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2)
Tourneys
GSL CK - monthly team event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro24 Group E
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Chess Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Loot Boxes—Emotions, And Why…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1397 users

MLG & GSL Exchange / Format Change - Page 39

Forum Index > SC2 General
1018 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 37 38 39 40 41 51 Next
JoxxOr
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden1502 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 20:18:25
May 13 2011 20:17 GMT
#761
My only problem with this is that i think that korean invites should be based on performance in the GSL and not "random invites". Lets say top #4 placement last GSL gets an invite to MLG

However this is fucking awesome and im sooooooo looking forward to MLG cbus
Gör om, gör rätt
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 20:20:30
May 13 2011 20:19 GMT
#762
On May 14 2011 05:17 JoxxOr wrote:
My only problem with this is that i think that korean invites should be based on performance in the GSL and not "random invites". Lets say top #4 placement last GSL gets an invite to MLG

However this is fucking awesome and im sooooooo looking forward to MLG cbus


Please read the MLG format changes.
Vehemus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States586 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 20:20:53
May 13 2011 20:20 GMT
#763
On May 14 2011 05:16 denzelz wrote:
This is great news, but honestly a little bit unfair to native Koreans. As a Korean player, to even get into Code A, you have to go through a series of grueling Code B qualifiers, which will offer a lot more competition than any MLG. However, any foreigner that places top THREE in a circuit tournament is fast-tracked into Code A? Foreigner privilege, I guess.

I'm not at all saying that I'm opposed to this collaboration. In fact, I think this is a great opportunity to encourage home-grown talent in the US since winning a local tournament might mean you have a shot at the GSL. It is just a little unfair to Koreans.


As opposed to the previous four Code A invites that were given to foreigners for absolutely no other reason other than being "not Korean and available to participate"?
This space for rent.
BlooDRusH
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada9 Posts
May 13 2011 20:21 GMT
#764
its too bad that Koreans beat white guys
I'm good at everything i do.
kratos-23
Profile Joined March 2011
303 Posts
May 13 2011 20:22 GMT
#765
On May 14 2011 05:08 coolcor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 04:22 Hall0wed wrote:
On May 14 2011 04:17 Nerski wrote:
This is actually a pretty terrible exchange for foreign players, even if the fans will like it. Assuming you spend a month in korea and win a code A you get about 1300 dollars minus all the living expenses costs...which basically makes leaving to go play code A not all that valuable. Assuming you were willing to spend a month to compete in Code S, you could potentially make out, but you could just as easily not.

Add in things like IPL and NASL starting to give away big prizes and I actually can't help but think a lot of the NA/EU players playing in those would turn the Code S and Code A down because korea is largely a difficult place for a foreign pro player to make a living. Players who have good team financial backing being the exception such as the liquid guys.

Flip side the koreans show up for a weekend, gain an advantage over all foreigners in the open brackets, can take home the top prize in a 3 day stay and head back to korea and not even miss competing in the GSL.

Fans will like the idea a ton, I think in practice however it won't be nearly as appealing for NA/EU players as it will be for Korean players. Whether or not it will help grow the western esports scene is anyones guess.


Apparently you can't read, all travel and accomodation expenses are paid by GSL.


But that doesn't matter they'd still be at a disadvantage in any NASL matches they have to play with lag and playing in the middle of the night and can't participate in the IPL at all. Plus all the other online tournaments and team leagues and I really think people are going to be dissapointed when almost all the top players decline the invite.


naniwa would accept and he is the best foreigner .
xlat
Profile Joined August 2010
176 Posts
May 13 2011 20:23 GMT
#766
f
a
ntastic!

had to tell my wife about it, as predicted, she didn't care

anyway, this makes me super happy, huge thanks to whatever secret forces, gun threats and oral pleasure that made this possible. ive never looked forward to a mlg like this one, good work!

bomber rolling the field. gogo
JoxxOr
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden1502 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 20:27:49
May 13 2011 20:23 GMT
#767
On May 14 2011 05:19 rotegirte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 05:17 JoxxOr wrote:
My only problem with this is that i think that korean invites should be based on performance in the GSL and not "random invites". Lets say top #4 placement last GSL gets an invite to MLG

However this is fucking awesome and im sooooooo looking forward to MLG cbus


Please read the MLG format changes.

I did

My point is that the koreans that gets invited to MLG should be the top #4 placment in Code S. Giving koreans even more ambition to reach a top 4 spot.

I know that the distribution to which koreans get into which pool is based on points, i just think the invites should be the same

Like MMA and Moon is both in Code A atm
Gör om, gör rätt
EliteReplay
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Dominican Republic913 Posts
May 13 2011 20:23 GMT
#768
this gonna be sick
if play random i can't call any race imba?
Moofadoobada
Profile Joined February 2011
United States266 Posts
May 13 2011 20:24 GMT
#769
this has the potential to be absolutely awesome. super excited about this!
tensionz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States130 Posts
May 13 2011 20:27 GMT
#770
MMA @ MLG!
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
May 13 2011 20:29 GMT
#771
On May 14 2011 05:23 JoxxOr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 05:19 rotegirte wrote:
On May 14 2011 05:17 JoxxOr wrote:
My only problem with this is that i think that korean invites should be based on performance in the GSL and not "random invites". Lets say top #4 placement last GSL gets an invite to MLG

However this is fucking awesome and im sooooooo looking forward to MLG cbus


Please read the MLG format changes.

I did

My point is that the koreans that gets invited to MLG should be the top #4 placment in Code S. Giving koreans even more ambition to reach a top 4 spot.

I know that the distribution to which koreans get into which pool is based on points, i just think the invites should be the same


Some posts ago, MLG staff hinted at various other players that were invited but it didn't work out due to scheduling problems. There could be tons of reasons why it didn't work out for one or the other player this time.

Seeing this is one-time only before the new system kicks in, I don't consider this much of an issue.
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
May 13 2011 20:29 GMT
#772
What if IdrA wins? (he already left korea)
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 13 2011 20:30 GMT
#773
On May 14 2011 05:29 ampson wrote:
What if IdrA wins? (he already left korea)


He'll probably just decline it or something and give it too the person next.
When I think of something else, something will go here
JoxxOr
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden1502 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 20:34:20
May 13 2011 20:31 GMT
#774
On May 14 2011 05:29 rotegirte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 05:23 JoxxOr wrote:
On May 14 2011 05:19 rotegirte wrote:
On May 14 2011 05:17 JoxxOr wrote:
My only problem with this is that i think that korean invites should be based on performance in the GSL and not "random invites". Lets say top #4 placement last GSL gets an invite to MLG

However this is fucking awesome and im sooooooo looking forward to MLG cbus


Please read the MLG format changes.

I did

My point is that the koreans that gets invited to MLG should be the top #4 placment in Code S. Giving koreans even more ambition to reach a top 4 spot.

I know that the distribution to which koreans get into which pool is based on points, i just think the invites should be the same


Some posts ago, MLG staff hinted at various other players that were invited but it didn't work out due to scheduling problems. There could be tons of reasons why it didn't work out for one or the other player this time.

Seeing this is one-time only before the new system kicks in, I don't consider this much of an issue.


Where is the new system based on invites?

Also GSL fixed the scheduling error making the "super tournament" take a break while MLG is on, giving every korean the ability to attend MLG if they so desired. So in simple words: They can invite whatever player they so desire to, i just think those invites should be based upon placement in GSL's and not fame.
Gör om, gör rätt
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 13 2011 20:32 GMT
#775
On May 14 2011 05:16 denzelz wrote:
This is great news, but honestly a little bit unfair to native Koreans. As a Korean player, to even get into Code A, you have to go through a series of grueling Code B qualifiers, which will offer a lot more competition than any MLG. However, any foreigner that places top THREE in a circuit tournament is fast-tracked into Code A? Foreigner privilege, I guess.

I'm not at all saying that I'm opposed to this collaboration. In fact, I think this is a great opportunity to encourage home-grown talent in the US since winning a local tournament might mean you have a shot at the GSL. It is just a little unfair to Koreans.


Do also note the koreans don't have too go through the open bracket. They get straight into the championship bracket. So in reality its all fair. 3 Foreigners get too be in code A without going through qualifier, 4 koreans get too not go through the 256 bracket and straight into group play.
When I think of something else, something will go here
zZygote
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada898 Posts
May 13 2011 20:32 GMT
#776
On May 14 2011 05:20 Vehemus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 05:16 denzelz wrote:
This is great news, but honestly a little bit unfair to native Koreans. As a Korean player, to even get into Code A, you have to go through a series of grueling Code B qualifiers, which will offer a lot more competition than any MLG. However, any foreigner that places top THREE in a circuit tournament is fast-tracked into Code A? Foreigner privilege, I guess.

I'm not at all saying that I'm opposed to this collaboration. In fact, I think this is a great opportunity to encourage home-grown talent in the US since winning a local tournament might mean you have a shot at the GSL. It is just a little unfair to Koreans.


As opposed to the previous four Code A invites that were given to foreigners for absolutely no other reason other than being "not Korean and available to participate"?


A partnerships a partnership. Koreans want to see foreigners and the MLG wants foreigners to be available for their events. It's a fair trade even despite somewhat unfair changes to native Koreans. I would say MLG is almost the same as Code B, if not a bit harder. There are 256 players I believe in live events, not to mention there are championship pools. Naniwa proved that he himself was able to make it through.

Other than that, it's a good deal, and many aspiring foreigners would love to take in on this opportunity. I hope KiWiKaKi is sent to Korea, he can really show them some stuff!
Vehemus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States586 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 20:36:55
May 13 2011 20:35 GMT
#777
On May 14 2011 05:23 JoxxOr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 05:19 rotegirte wrote:
On May 14 2011 05:17 JoxxOr wrote:
My only problem with this is that i think that korean invites should be based on performance in the GSL and not "random invites". Lets say top #4 placement last GSL gets an invite to MLG

However this is fucking awesome and im sooooooo looking forward to MLG cbus


Please read the MLG format changes.

I did

My point is that the koreans that gets invited to MLG should be the top #4 placment in Code S. Giving koreans even more ambition to reach a top 4 spot.

I know that the distribution to which koreans get into which pool is based on points, i just think the invites should be the same

Like MMA and Moon is both in Code A atm


First of all, part of the reason for this exchange program is to allow for foreigners to be placed in the GSL. The top fnishers in MLG get an opportunity to play in GSL: one in Code S and three in Code A. Why would the top four Code S players want to come to MLG to win a spot in Code A?

The reason Koreans will most likely want to participate in MLG at this point is that they are given the chance to win $5000 in MLG over one weekend and they do not have to pay for transportation or lodging due to being invited. Some may want to come just for the experience in playing a North American LAN, but at this point MLG's prize pool is not high enough for the top GSL players to really want to come.

As was said, some top Koreans already declined their invites. If the prize pool was as high as the MLG national championship, it would be much more likely that the top Code S Koreans would play at MLG, however, it still wouldn't make sense from an exchange program perspective.
This space for rent.
coolcor
Profile Joined February 2011
520 Posts
May 13 2011 20:36 GMT
#778
On May 14 2011 05:30 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 05:29 ampson wrote:
What if IdrA wins? (he already left korea)


He'll probably just decline it or something and give it too the person next.


And what if the next person declines for the same reason as idra left?I'm afraid they'll have to go down very far down the list before someone accepts and that would suck.
garrett
Profile Joined April 2011
United States7 Posts
May 13 2011 20:36 GMT
#779
Woo really excited... I'm going down to spectate!
Alokiya
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States648 Posts
May 13 2011 20:36 GMT
#780
This is probably the best thing to happen to sc2 pro gaming yet. 4 insanely good koreans at MLG, plus a a chance at a potentially life changing opportunity for top foreigners? I fail to find anything wrong with this.
C'mon my guppies, swim up my stream! - Day[9]
Prev 1 37 38 39 40 41 51 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 42m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 352
Hui .303
trigger 115
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4369
Bisu 2986
Jaedong 2500
Horang2 2232
EffOrt 725
Shuttle 677
Larva 462
Soma 426
Stork 366
Snow 295
[ Show more ]
Light 292
Mini 263
ZerO 261
Aegong 257
Soulkey 218
ggaemo 205
Rush 187
Sea.KH 91
JYJ 66
Sharp 61
hero 55
Backho 53
Shinee 36
sSak 33
Terrorterran 21
Movie 20
910 17
soO 15
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
Dota 2
Gorgc4946
qojqva2833
Counter-Strike
fl0m1961
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi1254
hiko861
B2W.Neo482
Lowko382
XaKoH 119
ArmadaUGS105
QueenE82
oskar76
Mew2King69
Trikslyr26
KnowMe20
ZerO(Twitch)12
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV544
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV705
• lizZardDota248
League of Legends
• Nemesis4034
Other Games
• Shiphtur48
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
8h 42m
Replay Cast
17h 42m
Kung Fu Cup
19h 42m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
The PondCast
1d 18h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.