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JoxxOr
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden1502 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 20:18:25
May 13 2011 20:17 GMT
#761
My only problem with this is that i think that korean invites should be based on performance in the GSL and not "random invites". Lets say top #4 placement last GSL gets an invite to MLG

However this is fucking awesome and im sooooooo looking forward to MLG cbus
Gör om, gör rätt
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 20:20:30
May 13 2011 20:19 GMT
#762
On May 14 2011 05:17 JoxxOr wrote:
My only problem with this is that i think that korean invites should be based on performance in the GSL and not "random invites". Lets say top #4 placement last GSL gets an invite to MLG

However this is fucking awesome and im sooooooo looking forward to MLG cbus


Please read the MLG format changes.
Vehemus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States586 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 20:20:53
May 13 2011 20:20 GMT
#763
On May 14 2011 05:16 denzelz wrote:
This is great news, but honestly a little bit unfair to native Koreans. As a Korean player, to even get into Code A, you have to go through a series of grueling Code B qualifiers, which will offer a lot more competition than any MLG. However, any foreigner that places top THREE in a circuit tournament is fast-tracked into Code A? Foreigner privilege, I guess.

I'm not at all saying that I'm opposed to this collaboration. In fact, I think this is a great opportunity to encourage home-grown talent in the US since winning a local tournament might mean you have a shot at the GSL. It is just a little unfair to Koreans.


As opposed to the previous four Code A invites that were given to foreigners for absolutely no other reason other than being "not Korean and available to participate"?
This space for rent.
BlooDRusH
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada9 Posts
May 13 2011 20:21 GMT
#764
its too bad that Koreans beat white guys
I'm good at everything i do.
kratos-23
Profile Joined March 2011
303 Posts
May 13 2011 20:22 GMT
#765
On May 14 2011 05:08 coolcor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 04:22 Hall0wed wrote:
On May 14 2011 04:17 Nerski wrote:
This is actually a pretty terrible exchange for foreign players, even if the fans will like it. Assuming you spend a month in korea and win a code A you get about 1300 dollars minus all the living expenses costs...which basically makes leaving to go play code A not all that valuable. Assuming you were willing to spend a month to compete in Code S, you could potentially make out, but you could just as easily not.

Add in things like IPL and NASL starting to give away big prizes and I actually can't help but think a lot of the NA/EU players playing in those would turn the Code S and Code A down because korea is largely a difficult place for a foreign pro player to make a living. Players who have good team financial backing being the exception such as the liquid guys.

Flip side the koreans show up for a weekend, gain an advantage over all foreigners in the open brackets, can take home the top prize in a 3 day stay and head back to korea and not even miss competing in the GSL.

Fans will like the idea a ton, I think in practice however it won't be nearly as appealing for NA/EU players as it will be for Korean players. Whether or not it will help grow the western esports scene is anyones guess.


Apparently you can't read, all travel and accomodation expenses are paid by GSL.


But that doesn't matter they'd still be at a disadvantage in any NASL matches they have to play with lag and playing in the middle of the night and can't participate in the IPL at all. Plus all the other online tournaments and team leagues and I really think people are going to be dissapointed when almost all the top players decline the invite.


naniwa would accept and he is the best foreigner .
xlat
Profile Joined August 2010
176 Posts
May 13 2011 20:23 GMT
#766
f
a
ntastic!

had to tell my wife about it, as predicted, she didn't care

anyway, this makes me super happy, huge thanks to whatever secret forces, gun threats and oral pleasure that made this possible. ive never looked forward to a mlg like this one, good work!

bomber rolling the field. gogo
JoxxOr
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden1502 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 20:27:49
May 13 2011 20:23 GMT
#767
On May 14 2011 05:19 rotegirte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 05:17 JoxxOr wrote:
My only problem with this is that i think that korean invites should be based on performance in the GSL and not "random invites". Lets say top #4 placement last GSL gets an invite to MLG

However this is fucking awesome and im sooooooo looking forward to MLG cbus


Please read the MLG format changes.

I did

My point is that the koreans that gets invited to MLG should be the top #4 placment in Code S. Giving koreans even more ambition to reach a top 4 spot.

I know that the distribution to which koreans get into which pool is based on points, i just think the invites should be the same

Like MMA and Moon is both in Code A atm
Gör om, gör rätt
EliteReplay
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Dominican Republic913 Posts
May 13 2011 20:23 GMT
#768
this gonna be sick
if play random i can't call any race imba?
Moofadoobada
Profile Joined February 2011
United States266 Posts
May 13 2011 20:24 GMT
#769
this has the potential to be absolutely awesome. super excited about this!
tensionz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States130 Posts
May 13 2011 20:27 GMT
#770
MMA @ MLG!
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
May 13 2011 20:29 GMT
#771
On May 14 2011 05:23 JoxxOr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 05:19 rotegirte wrote:
On May 14 2011 05:17 JoxxOr wrote:
My only problem with this is that i think that korean invites should be based on performance in the GSL and not "random invites". Lets say top #4 placement last GSL gets an invite to MLG

However this is fucking awesome and im sooooooo looking forward to MLG cbus


Please read the MLG format changes.

I did

My point is that the koreans that gets invited to MLG should be the top #4 placment in Code S. Giving koreans even more ambition to reach a top 4 spot.

I know that the distribution to which koreans get into which pool is based on points, i just think the invites should be the same


Some posts ago, MLG staff hinted at various other players that were invited but it didn't work out due to scheduling problems. There could be tons of reasons why it didn't work out for one or the other player this time.

Seeing this is one-time only before the new system kicks in, I don't consider this much of an issue.
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
May 13 2011 20:29 GMT
#772
What if IdrA wins? (he already left korea)
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 13 2011 20:30 GMT
#773
On May 14 2011 05:29 ampson wrote:
What if IdrA wins? (he already left korea)


He'll probably just decline it or something and give it too the person next.
When I think of something else, something will go here
JoxxOr
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden1502 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 20:34:20
May 13 2011 20:31 GMT
#774
On May 14 2011 05:29 rotegirte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 05:23 JoxxOr wrote:
On May 14 2011 05:19 rotegirte wrote:
On May 14 2011 05:17 JoxxOr wrote:
My only problem with this is that i think that korean invites should be based on performance in the GSL and not "random invites". Lets say top #4 placement last GSL gets an invite to MLG

However this is fucking awesome and im sooooooo looking forward to MLG cbus


Please read the MLG format changes.

I did

My point is that the koreans that gets invited to MLG should be the top #4 placment in Code S. Giving koreans even more ambition to reach a top 4 spot.

I know that the distribution to which koreans get into which pool is based on points, i just think the invites should be the same


Some posts ago, MLG staff hinted at various other players that were invited but it didn't work out due to scheduling problems. There could be tons of reasons why it didn't work out for one or the other player this time.

Seeing this is one-time only before the new system kicks in, I don't consider this much of an issue.


Where is the new system based on invites?

Also GSL fixed the scheduling error making the "super tournament" take a break while MLG is on, giving every korean the ability to attend MLG if they so desired. So in simple words: They can invite whatever player they so desire to, i just think those invites should be based upon placement in GSL's and not fame.
Gör om, gör rätt
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 13 2011 20:32 GMT
#775
On May 14 2011 05:16 denzelz wrote:
This is great news, but honestly a little bit unfair to native Koreans. As a Korean player, to even get into Code A, you have to go through a series of grueling Code B qualifiers, which will offer a lot more competition than any MLG. However, any foreigner that places top THREE in a circuit tournament is fast-tracked into Code A? Foreigner privilege, I guess.

I'm not at all saying that I'm opposed to this collaboration. In fact, I think this is a great opportunity to encourage home-grown talent in the US since winning a local tournament might mean you have a shot at the GSL. It is just a little unfair to Koreans.


Do also note the koreans don't have too go through the open bracket. They get straight into the championship bracket. So in reality its all fair. 3 Foreigners get too be in code A without going through qualifier, 4 koreans get too not go through the 256 bracket and straight into group play.
When I think of something else, something will go here
zZygote
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada898 Posts
May 13 2011 20:32 GMT
#776
On May 14 2011 05:20 Vehemus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 05:16 denzelz wrote:
This is great news, but honestly a little bit unfair to native Koreans. As a Korean player, to even get into Code A, you have to go through a series of grueling Code B qualifiers, which will offer a lot more competition than any MLG. However, any foreigner that places top THREE in a circuit tournament is fast-tracked into Code A? Foreigner privilege, I guess.

I'm not at all saying that I'm opposed to this collaboration. In fact, I think this is a great opportunity to encourage home-grown talent in the US since winning a local tournament might mean you have a shot at the GSL. It is just a little unfair to Koreans.


As opposed to the previous four Code A invites that were given to foreigners for absolutely no other reason other than being "not Korean and available to participate"?


A partnerships a partnership. Koreans want to see foreigners and the MLG wants foreigners to be available for their events. It's a fair trade even despite somewhat unfair changes to native Koreans. I would say MLG is almost the same as Code B, if not a bit harder. There are 256 players I believe in live events, not to mention there are championship pools. Naniwa proved that he himself was able to make it through.

Other than that, it's a good deal, and many aspiring foreigners would love to take in on this opportunity. I hope KiWiKaKi is sent to Korea, he can really show them some stuff!
Vehemus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States586 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 20:36:55
May 13 2011 20:35 GMT
#777
On May 14 2011 05:23 JoxxOr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 05:19 rotegirte wrote:
On May 14 2011 05:17 JoxxOr wrote:
My only problem with this is that i think that korean invites should be based on performance in the GSL and not "random invites". Lets say top #4 placement last GSL gets an invite to MLG

However this is fucking awesome and im sooooooo looking forward to MLG cbus


Please read the MLG format changes.

I did

My point is that the koreans that gets invited to MLG should be the top #4 placment in Code S. Giving koreans even more ambition to reach a top 4 spot.

I know that the distribution to which koreans get into which pool is based on points, i just think the invites should be the same

Like MMA and Moon is both in Code A atm


First of all, part of the reason for this exchange program is to allow for foreigners to be placed in the GSL. The top fnishers in MLG get an opportunity to play in GSL: one in Code S and three in Code A. Why would the top four Code S players want to come to MLG to win a spot in Code A?

The reason Koreans will most likely want to participate in MLG at this point is that they are given the chance to win $5000 in MLG over one weekend and they do not have to pay for transportation or lodging due to being invited. Some may want to come just for the experience in playing a North American LAN, but at this point MLG's prize pool is not high enough for the top GSL players to really want to come.

As was said, some top Koreans already declined their invites. If the prize pool was as high as the MLG national championship, it would be much more likely that the top Code S Koreans would play at MLG, however, it still wouldn't make sense from an exchange program perspective.
This space for rent.
coolcor
Profile Joined February 2011
520 Posts
May 13 2011 20:36 GMT
#778
On May 14 2011 05:30 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 05:29 ampson wrote:
What if IdrA wins? (he already left korea)


He'll probably just decline it or something and give it too the person next.


And what if the next person declines for the same reason as idra left?I'm afraid they'll have to go down very far down the list before someone accepts and that would suck.
garrett
Profile Joined April 2011
United States7 Posts
May 13 2011 20:36 GMT
#779
Woo really excited... I'm going down to spectate!
Alokiya
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States648 Posts
May 13 2011 20:36 GMT
#780
This is probably the best thing to happen to sc2 pro gaming yet. 4 insanely good koreans at MLG, plus a a chance at a potentially life changing opportunity for top foreigners? I fail to find anything wrong with this.
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