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On May 09 2011 18:16 goodfella wrote:
Btw. don't understand why Idra is always hyped so much by Americans, don't think he could beat any of the Top10 europeans at the moment, e.g. Nani, Thorzain, Strelok, Dimaga, morrow, Sjow, Hasu....
+ Show Spoiler +He just beat White_Ra 2-0 in Stars War killer 6
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On May 09 2011 18:16 goodfella wrote: As far as population goes you can compare U.S. to Europe and Europe >>>> U.S. Sweden is without a doubt the best SC2 country outside of Korea. Then Ukraine with White-Ra, Dimaga, Kas, Strelok. I Mean look at Streloks recent games, this guy barely loses anything and his Ladder record is insane. Plus EU Ladder has a better skill level than U.S.'s. 5 best swedes vs. 5 best of Ukraine could go either way at the moment, tho Thorzain and Nani would probably win their matches.
Btw. don't understand why Idra is always hyped so much by Americans, don't think he could beat any of the Top10 europeans at the moment, e.g. Nani, Thorzain, Strelok, Dimaga, morrow, Sjow, Hasu.... Ofc he can, specially at the moment since he doesnt lose ZvP anymore like he did and is in a form with an IPL win, I mean its not like he would 4-0 them or like they can 4-0 him, they would all be hard games but he could beat them, although i do believe Naniwa would still crush him. That doesnt mean that in best of 7 he cant take a game off of him.
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On May 09 2011 10:29 mikyaJ wrote:
The US has far more players in the Top 100 ELO in TLPD than Sweden. ThorZain and Naniwa are killing it right now, but MorroW is not what he used to be, and Sjow is no better than [insert random NA player here] in his current form right now.
Sheth, IdrA, Kawaiirice, Tyler, qxc, Response; but Sweden has others like Sase as well.
The real 'numbers' country is Canada, afaik they have the most players in the Top 100 ELO atm, but no real superstar.
As for my opinion, I think China, Ukraine, USA, Sweden, Canada, and Germany are the top countries.
What? Sjow is still really, really good. He just recently won the Gathering beating players like Nightend and Sase and won ~5,5k USD. Easily better that a 'random NA player'.
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As a Canadian (living in the US) I gotta say the Swedes have the strongest (by far) line-up of players outside of Korea. Major props to Sweden. <3
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Please just include a poll on the first post with like 3votes each, thx.
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austria just kidding, like in every popular sport we're bad 
Im gonna go with sweden, because of Naniwa at the MLG, Jinro in the GSL, and I like MorroW
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Sweden, Ukraine andddd... dunno. Given time, I'm sure France and Germany will produce many good gamers. For the last couple of years CSS has just been dominated by France, so wouldn't be surprised if it begins to happen with SC2. Maybe I just want more Adelscott's?
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1.Sweden 2.Ukraine 3. Germany 4. Canada 5.USA
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Sweden but it's really close at the top, don't think sweden would be more than 70% favourite against any of the top 5 or 6 countries.
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On May 09 2011 18:54 Zedders wrote: 1.Sweden 2.Ukraine 3. Germany 4. Canada 5.USA
I think the same.
Sweden is so powerfull atm..
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On May 09 2011 18:25 SuperStyle wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 18:16 goodfella wrote: As far as population goes you can compare U.S. to Europe and Europe >>>> U.S. Sweden is without a doubt the best SC2 country outside of Korea. Then Ukraine with White-Ra, Dimaga, Kas, Strelok. I Mean look at Streloks recent games, this guy barely loses anything and his Ladder record is insane. Plus EU Ladder has a better skill level than U.S.'s. 5 best swedes vs. 5 best of Ukraine could go either way at the moment, tho Thorzain and Nani would probably win their matches.
Btw. don't understand why Idra is always hyped so much by Americans, don't think he could beat any of the Top10 europeans at the moment, e.g. Nani, Thorzain, Strelok, Dimaga, morrow, Sjow, Hasu.... Ofc he can, specially at the moment since he doesnt lose ZvP anymore like he did and is in a form with an IPL win, I mean its not like he would 4-0 them or like they can 4-0 him, they would all be hard games but he could beat them, although i do believe Naniwa would still crush him. That doesnt mean that in best of 7 he cant take a game off of him.
Who besides Select (who Idra has beaten in IPL) is comparable to the Players I named as Top10 Europeans?
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Australia!
Team: mOOnGLaDe, mOOnGLaDe, mOOnGLaDe
but seriously, Ukraine > Sweden > Germany/USA/Canada imo
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I think it'd be a close call between sweden and ukraine.
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On May 09 2011 19:54 goodfella wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 18:25 SuperStyle wrote:On May 09 2011 18:16 goodfella wrote: As far as population goes you can compare U.S. to Europe and Europe >>>> U.S. Sweden is without a doubt the best SC2 country outside of Korea. Then Ukraine with White-Ra, Dimaga, Kas, Strelok. I Mean look at Streloks recent games, this guy barely loses anything and his Ladder record is insane. Plus EU Ladder has a better skill level than U.S.'s. 5 best swedes vs. 5 best of Ukraine could go either way at the moment, tho Thorzain and Nani would probably win their matches.
Btw. don't understand why Idra is always hyped so much by Americans, don't think he could beat any of the Top10 europeans at the moment, e.g. Nani, Thorzain, Strelok, Dimaga, morrow, Sjow, Hasu.... Ofc he can, specially at the moment since he doesnt lose ZvP anymore like he did and is in a form with an IPL win, I mean its not like he would 4-0 them or like they can 4-0 him, they would all be hard games but he could beat them, although i do believe Naniwa would still crush him. That doesnt mean that in best of 7 he cant take a game off of him. Who besides Select (who Idra has beaten in IPL) is comparable to the Players I named as Top10 Europeans?
Ok if i understand this: 1. U said idra cant beat top 10 europeans 2. I said that he can beat probably all except Naniwa 3. Ur asking me who besides select and idra is comparable to top 10 europeans ??? - i dont quite get where this came from tbh, bit of a stupid question to ask seeing my response in previous post. Anyways to answer ur question: no one
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No one is saying France is bad, but they are not the best, which this thread asks for.
That is exactly what we are saying.
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u should add poll into op post, but yeah ukraine and sweden seems really scary atm.
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Sweden easily, i think they could compete pretty well vs korea, and i dont think i could say the same for any other country.
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On May 09 2011 06:09 Kyles92 wrote:England, Demuslim.  true
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Sweeden with ukraine as a distant second
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Estonia, there's me and...
Sweden would be a close second.
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