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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
May 08 2011 13:55 GMT
#101
On May 08 2011 22:31 aurum510 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote:
don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear


NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.

If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.


MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?
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Escape
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada306 Posts
May 08 2011 13:59 GMT
#102
love him or hate him,
but when idra speaks; people listen.

aurum510
Profile Joined July 2010
United States229 Posts
May 08 2011 13:59 GMT
#103
On May 08 2011 22:55 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 22:31 aurum510 wrote:
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote:
don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear


NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.

If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.


MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?


Find me one source where MC says protoss is weak.

The fact of the matter is the rest of Korea agrees zerg is terrible.
Tippany
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States765 Posts
May 08 2011 14:04 GMT
#104
On May 08 2011 22:59 aurum510 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 22:55 Beyonder wrote:
On May 08 2011 22:31 aurum510 wrote:
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote:
don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear


NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.

If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.


MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?


Find me one source where MC says protoss is weak.

The fact of the matter is the rest of Korea agrees zerg is terrible.

Yes, the fact of the matter can be put to rest based on your one statement that generalizes an entire country's opinion.
Real action, my dream.
keeblur
Profile Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
May 08 2011 14:07 GMT
#105
On May 08 2011 22:59 Escape wrote:
love him or hate him,
but when idra speaks; people listen.



They do? I personally didn't even read the OP, I just came to this thread for the comments and I like drama created around IdrA, not him.
Isn't it ironic and selfish to say that God made man in his image, when God was made in man's image?
MindRush
Profile Joined April 2010
Romania916 Posts
May 08 2011 14:09 GMT
#106
On May 08 2011 23:07 keeblur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 22:59 Escape wrote:
love him or hate him,
but when idra speaks; people listen.



They do? I personally didn't even read the OP, I just came to this thread for the comments and I like drama created around IdrA, not him.


IdrA has charisma ..... people listen to people with charisma no matter what they say
Stalin and Hitler had charisma, but this doesn't make their opinions right.
I am not comparing IdrA with Adolf Hitler, just saying having fans means nothing.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
May 08 2011 14:11 GMT
#107
oh God[win's law]
Barca
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States418 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 14:11:26
May 08 2011 14:11 GMT
#108
On May 08 2011 22:59 aurum510 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 22:55 Beyonder wrote:
On May 08 2011 22:31 aurum510 wrote:
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote:
don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear


NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.

If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.


MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?


Find me one source where MC says protoss is weak.

The fact of the matter is the rest of Korea agrees zerg is terrible.


Ummmmmm okay watch this video at 1:45ish


http://www.sk-gaming.com/video/338727-MC_1on1_23_MVP_is_kinda_dodging_me
- I hate threads that end with "Thoughts?" -
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 14:27:04
May 08 2011 14:26 GMT
#109
The grass is always greener on the other side, just watch DeMuslim talking about Zerg when he plays on his smurf. :lol
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
May 08 2011 14:36 GMT
#110
it does look like zerg will have a couple month period where they will be considered op, or at least winning everything.

however that will quickly go away when protoss realizes they have hard counters for every unit zerg has and can win games despite being behind economically for the entire thing.

terrans though, a lot of people are having trouble with late game tvz and I'm not sure if it's because they are still relying on marines at the 30 minute mark, or what.
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 14:45:06
May 08 2011 14:44 GMT
#111
On May 08 2011 22:59 aurum510 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 22:55 Beyonder wrote:
On May 08 2011 22:31 aurum510 wrote:
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote:
don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear


NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.

If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.


MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?


Find me one source where MC says protoss is weak.

The fact of the matter is the rest of Korea agrees zerg is terrible.

watch the sk interview good sir.

EDITED: err SK interview linked above.
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 14:49:49
May 08 2011 14:49 GMT
#112


Interview with idra from the match against tossgirl for reference.
srsly
Cold-Blood
Profile Joined March 2010
United States200 Posts
May 08 2011 14:53 GMT
#113
On May 08 2011 17:12 Casablancas wrote:
How can he say that top 8 in MLG is a bigger accomplishment than top 8 in the GSL?


Because to him, accomplishments are all about how well he does with Zerg when they are on the scale of really really really really horrible to just kinda bad. Obviously during the GSL they were just kinda bad and in MLG they were really really really really horrible.
Forever and Always #1 YellOw fan.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
May 08 2011 14:56 GMT
#114
On May 08 2011 23:44 Utinni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 22:59 aurum510 wrote:
On May 08 2011 22:55 Beyonder wrote:
On May 08 2011 22:31 aurum510 wrote:
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote:
don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear


NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.

If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.


MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?


Find me one source where MC says protoss is weak.

The fact of the matter is the rest of Korea agrees zerg is terrible.

watch the sk interview good sir.

EDITED: err SK interview linked above.

IIRC in an interview with a bunch of the oGs house members, everyone besides MC said that Zerg was the weakest.
:)
Gatored
Profile Joined September 2010
United States679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 15:01:31
May 08 2011 14:56 GMT
#115
On May 08 2011 22:59 aurum510 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 22:55 Beyonder wrote:
On May 08 2011 22:31 aurum510 wrote:
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote:
don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear


NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.

If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.


MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?


Find me one source where MC says protoss is weak.

The fact of the matter is the rest of Korea agrees zerg is terrible.


MC just said zerg was IMBA in this interview: http://www.sk-gaming.com/video/338727-MC_1on1_23_MVP_is_kinda_dodging_me

MVP also said terran was the weakest race due to the maps being so big in a recent interview from Artosis.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
May 08 2011 15:31 GMT
#116
Yepp. Every race has its strengths and weaknesses..
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zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
May 08 2011 15:34 GMT
#117
--- Nuked ---
Jeremyy
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada182 Posts
May 08 2011 15:37 GMT
#118
I think players tend to think of their race of the weakest because they experience and are frustrated by the weaknesses of the race first-hand.
Where's the pleasure in that?
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
May 08 2011 15:45 GMT
#119
On May 08 2011 17:12 Casablancas wrote:
How can he say that top 8 in MLG is a bigger accomplishment than top 8 in the GSL?

Because to get GSL Top 8 you need to literally only win 2 group stages (they had Ro16 groups back then as well) in Bo1s. And, at the time IdrA was confident he could win, and get very far... at MLG Dallas he was expecting to get destroyed because he felt so underpowered.
MKP||TSL
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
May 08 2011 15:46 GMT
#120
On May 08 2011 22:55 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2011 22:31 aurum510 wrote:
On May 08 2011 22:12 MindRush wrote:
don't want to start a flame war here, but my guess is that whichever race would idra be playing, complaints about it being underpowered were bound to appear


NesTea even said "Zerg is sad". Best zerg in the world saying zerg sucks. Not to mention if you didn't read SlayerS Min's interview, he says in Korea zerg is seen as terrible and that any zerg who can win consistently gets a lot more respect than tjheir protoss and terran counterparts.

If you think there's a lot of whining in the foreigner scene, check out Korea's.


MC says protoss is weak, mvp says terran is weak. Do you see a pattern?

Every player will think their own race is terrible.. that's a given. But all the Terrans will think that Terran and Zerg are both weak, and all the Protoss will think that Protoss and Zerg are both weak. See the pattern?
MKP||TSL
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