Zenio vs Boxer NASL review

On May 04 2011 20:19 Surili wrote:
Pictures have now been uploaded, enjoy guys. I hope you enjoy reading this as i enjoyed posting it. Even if i don't get the place i might do more of these anyway if they are appreciated.

On May 04 2011 20:48 oncearunner wrote:



Very nicely done man, dont listen to the people who complain about typos's. You succeeded in getting your message across and that's all that matters!

On May 04 2011 20:58 Sarang wrote:


Actually, no.

When you're writing an application for a writing position, EVERYTHING matters. Typos are pretty high on this list.

Typos make something look unprofessional, which the OP wants to avoid.

That aside, I thought it was well-written - in fact I think this was better written than some of the recent TL recaps.

So, on the whole, well done. =)

(Also, if it helps, one typo is located in the sentence "Here is a peak of some of the abuse boxer was pulling off on the old version of Tal'darim,")

On May 04 2011 21:07 MonkSEA wrote:
This left Zenio to immediately GG left Incontrol wondering
In my opinion should be one of the two:

This left Zenio to immediately GG. This left.....
This left Zenio to immediately GG, which in return left.......

And again:

Zenio has definitely got the minerals
Zenio has definitely mined more minerals.
(disregard above if you're saying he can afford to cancel it? which makes little to no sense because he had to have the minerals to start it, but if you did, be more clear on your thoughts(aka write down why you think this))

Or even better!
Zenio has pulled ahead with the minerals gained.

Anyway, apart from those little minor things, very well written article. I don't tune into the NASL due to their production flaws, but this definitely gave a lot of information, as well as nice timed screenshots.

On May 04 2011 21:20 HonorZ wrote:
I really enjoyed reading your recap. If your looking for advices, I let here my suggestion :
* I had trouble understanding the organisation of your recap. I was kinda surprised no to find anything about game 3, and therefore I didn't understand that you were gonna treat the third one only. I think you should kinda use some sort of spatial organisation to explain this.

On May 04 2011 21:20 HonorZ wrote:
* Maybe you could format your text a little ? I think adding titles could also help. And puting more space between images and text, maybe center and reduce the images ?

On May 04 2011 21:20 HonorZ wrote:
* Hehe I was awaiting some kind of general conclusions about why the games were so good contrarely to other TvZ too :D but I couldn't find any .

Hope I might help !

On May 04 2011 21:38 twoxmachine wrote:
Oh man, this review would be fantastic if it had just a tad bit more formatting.this review of the GSL Open Season 1 Grand Finals is the standard of nigh-excellence to me.

Noted that it is still only Group Play and not the Grand Finals in the NASL, but Zenio and the Emperor certainly deserve that measure of perfection, no? A few more tweaks and I think this article is well on its way there.

On May 04 2011 21:58 taran wrote:
Good stuff, but it could use better formatting. Paragraphs and spacing between them maybe?

On May 04 2011 22:06 HonorZ wrote:
Hey Surili,

I mean I was expecting a review of all the 3 games ; but you're focusing on the 3rd one (which is not a bad idea at all, it's just that I thought given your introduction you would review all the 3 games equall). Well, it's true too that there's nothing to focus about on the first one since Zenio left so quickly ; but I'ld had liked to have some more details about the 2 nd one, since you give us a peak of the very good strategies that the Emperor did. By spatial organization, I meant something like a spatial trick to show us you're focusing on the game 3.

I'm sure next time it will be even more awesome .

I really like the hype aspect as well ! I really do love pre-hype threads that exists for example in
Broodwar like the
flamewheel article "Dial D for Death". I'm sure it's even possible to do post-hype game. It's always possible to ellaborate using your knowledges of others matches (for example : this game reflect the style of IMLosira, something like that) ; historical references (BW, modern strategy), or just unrelated stuff (cf FruitDealer's GSL # 1 final article posted above).

So I'm not against at all some kind of general hype-in conclusion !!!

With zerglings streaming in at all angles, there is only so much the tanks can do to hold.

On May 04 2011 20:58 Sarang wrote:


....
(Also, if it helps, one typo is located in the sentence "Here is a peak of some of the abuse boxer was pulling off on the old version of Tal'darim,")

As for more analysis, i would have to think about that more, after all i am not a terran or zerg player, so i wouldn't want to comment too much about that, and the aim of this is to have other people talking about the games. That said, i still think i should have tried to look a bit deeper into the games, but without control of the camera all the information i have the casters are currently looking at, so without being able to see the replay instead of the vod i am not sure how much more i could add.

Fair enough, it is true that i cut the review of the second game a bit short, but i didn't want the review to drag on. Do you think i could get away with making the whole post longer? I know how short peoples TL:DR spans can be

On May 04 2011 22:24 HonorZ wrote:


I meant not especially analysis you know, but pure hype . You can write about the players , the game itself ... without especially analyzing in details the strategy but you know... Just express how awesome the context is. Hm I'm not sure if I'm really clear, but please have a look about some brood war final edits to understand my purpose if you need.


I don't know, I think it's a matter of preferences. When the style is good, I really like long edits.

On May 04 2011 22:44 Shana wrote:
I really enjoy reading your review, hope that you keep writing

On May 05 2011 00:50 kickinhead wrote:
I was very disappointed by Boxers play - yes, he is very creative and has very good Unit-Control, but c'mon, floating THAT many minerals as a ProGamer is IMHO a joke. I don't know what happened there, but even if Boxers Macro is definitely his weakness, those games were pretty embarrassing and I definitely think if he'd really work on his Macro (which basically just means focused training), he could be one of the very best players in the world.

It's not like SC2-Macro is that hard, so even as a bad SC:BW-Macro-Player that used to play on a very high level I'd expect him to do much better.

On May 05 2011 01:50 Golgotha wrote:
i might be the only one but i see so many errors and it is difficult to read. i will send you some fixes.

On May 05 2011 01:56 Kipsate wrote:
For clarity and structure, you should more clearly divide your write-up in game 1 , 2 and 3. On top of that, while having a two enlarged picturse of the NASL casters might be funny, it is nor relevant to the game itself. Instead of having two enlarged pictures of the NASL casters, use a small picture as a result after the game, you have more pictures of the NASL casters then the game itself. (Granted it is 2:1 but still,). If you want to get a dramatic effect going with the expressions of the NASL casters, use the spoiler tag:

E.G: , The game was so good that it made Incontrol go: ,(Enter spoilered picture, with a cursified message under the picture, such as, Incontrol approves). Because right now the pictures take half if not more then half the space on the article itself.

On May 05 2011 05:05 iStarKraft wrote:
Nice write-up of the games. I really feel that you give a more concise overview of the games than some articles, which in my opinion is a good thing.

One thing I will mention is how your writing almost tries too hard to be enthusiastic; the almost unendingly relentless frequent use of fantastical adjectives might come across slightly wrong. (^_^)

Props go to you for the pictures though. I didn't at all feel they were irrelevant to the text and overall I thought it was well written, despite minor crap like lowercase 'i's.

Now write-up some protoss games haha. =D

On May 05 2011 06:22 whatthefat wrote:
Solid job. Here are some corrections that jumped out at me:

"Anywho, as always, I was very excited for this match up." (about)

"An early pool with drones added to the rush only to arrive at Boxer’s base to find it walled in. This left Zenio to immediately GG which left Incontrol wondering whether anything that he hypes can possibly turn out the way he hopes." (This isn't written as well as the rest of the text)

"In game 3 Boxer played a cocky two racks opening, in full view of Zenio’s overlord, which prompted to Zenio reraise by opening Hatch first." (rax, Zenio to)

"The Thumb’s Down dance has yet to become a meme, but I have hope." (no apostrophe)

"Here is a peek of some of the abuse boxer was pulling off on the old version of Tal'darim" (at)

"I always did feel he should have played zerg." (felt)

"First Boxer opened exactly as Zenio had hoped he would have done in the first game, and then he continued on that route despite letting the zerg see it, only for Zenio to unflinchingly continue his economic opening, planning on defending the pressure using only drones." (had hoped he would; also sentence is a bit long)

On May 05 2011 06:31 SlipperySnake wrote:
I liked this article a lot and I just wanted to say thanks. I had forgotten how epic that game was, the baneling bombs freaking TWICE. Wow I was just stunned watching how well it was all executed especially how deliberate the second one was.

Great article, thanks for reminding me of a great series.